The only reason the invasion went even half as well as it did was because of Dragon Dive, without dragon dive a free reign Pitou would've ended the entire invasion. The Troupe gets low diffed.
The phantom troupe will lose and this is not even a close match up Youpi aura output alone is over 7k we know this because he would have been able to repay the aura and still have enough power left over to kill Knuckle in one shot if Killua did not save him with a lighting bolt to compare Gon jajanken which is powerful enough to knock out strong nen users like Knuckle and Genthru in one hit only as over 2k units of aura this means that Youpi while not even using Ko is hitting with aura over 3 times more than Gon jajanken on top of that Ikalgo said that even if Gon Killua chimera ant Palm Knuckle Meleoron and himself fight together they would lose to Pitou Meanwhile Illumi who scales to the stronger members of the troupe did not try to kill Gon because he was being guarded by Biscuit Hanzo Knuckle and several other of Gon friends keep in mind that Illumi had Hisoka for back up but still focus on trying to kill Alluka because he would not have been able to get passed the people protecting Gon They can't hurt any of the guard because of how huge a gap in aura output there is I can't see them even beating one of the guard let alone all 3 and while manipulators like Sharnalk can defeat more powerful opponent by placing a needle inside of them I don't think his needle would be able to get passed their hard skin that being reinforce with a huge amounts of aura This is not a contested battle some fans just downplay the guard is all
@@vincedgarvlogs five people including Morel, A veteran and a highly skilled Nen user, he has proven himself to be extremely analytical and with his intelligence, outwitted two powerful Squadron Leaders. Morel can formulate accurate predictions on his opponent's move and has proved to be able to analyse hostile capabilities and thought patterns efficiently. He can devise effective strategies in a matter of instants, always exploiting his or his students' capabilities to the fullest. According to Shaiapouf, his determination, unshakeable will, and confidence in himself bolster his defensive powers greatly. Also, Morel's years of experience can unconsciously lead him to pick the best option. He can keep his cold blood in extremely dangerous situations. an 120+ year old martial arts expert that is the eldest and most experiened. (Netero's seemingly nonsensical, whimsical behavior belies an astounding intellect. When preparing to exterminate the Chimera Ants, he had already made way for Gon and Killua to participate before meeting them; indeed, he had previously predicted the two of them and Palm Siberia would join the mission. He confirmed it later on when he sent Morel a text that included instructions for the boys, while also using the same words Morel had used to describe him a moment before. Since Palm was not mentioned, it seems he had even predicted she would not take part in the assault. Upon reaching NGL, he implied he had already considered the possibility of Nen users being "assimilated" by the enemy. If Netero can correctly anticipate other people's actions, he has, on the contrary, proven time and time again to be completely unpredictable. Zeno Zoldyck described him as having the mind of a plant. In spite of his position, he was able to hide the existence of a son even to the Zodiacs, seemingly with the sole exception of Pariston. However, it is in battle that he shows his full mental prowess: also thanks to his experience, his battle instincts are so honed that Meruem described his selection of offensive moves as "flawless", and specified that it is only through having acquired a pattern-recognition ability similar to foresight that he managed to slip through Netero's attacks)
pouf is extremely intelligent as well. (Pouf claims himself to be the most intelligent of the Royal Guard. He is capable of coming up with and estimating the likelihood of a large number of possible scenarios, is highly skilled at character judgment and manipulation, being able to manipulate not only Gon and Morel, but also Pitou and Meruem himself. He is capable of determining a person's likely course of action with the help of Spiritual Message, giving Neferpitou the impression he could read their mind. Outsmarted Morel, a highly intelligent Nen user himself, forcing him into a tactical dilemma, deduced the source of Morel's power, and quickly formulated a series of plans on the fly to prevent an amnesiac Meruem from remembering Komugi)
The Troupe wins due to teamwork and more abilities, also Chrollo can make a plan and gather the necessary abilities to deal with the Royal Guards, he can even bring a Poor Man's Rose and detonate it without risking death.
I dont think the bookmark puppets would work, due to first come first serve, and all of them are being manipulated by Poufe, and he couldnt get sucked by Blinky since every piece of him is still alive, but she would be great for keeping the air clean of his scales. I think Shalnark chipping one of the guards is the highest win %, or Chrollo using Black Voice in conjunction with a stealth or mobility type skill of some sort. Overall, good takes, imo :)
I think giving the Troupe the same information as the Invasionteam is downplaying their biggest strengths: The ability to plan and use their big pool of different support abilities. The Invasionteam was severely limited because Netero could not get many hunters to support him due to Paristons meddling. The Troupe could use Shalnarks black voice to take control of a minor ant and scout out the palace. I think this would work even with Pitous En active. Alternatively they could extract information from someone like Leol or Cheetu using Pakus ability. Either way they could learn of Komugis existence which would be a major boon. Chrollo could devise a plan where they take Komugi as a hostage during the surprise attack. This would probably lead Meruem to negotiate with the Troupe given that he wanted to do something similar with Netero. From there someone as smart as Chrollo could probably figure out how to trick the ants into a disadvantageous position where he can dispose of them, they are naturally very intelligent but lack actual experience.
@@vincedgarvlogs Kite was able to notice he was severely out classed and noticed the immediate danger. While telling Gon and Killua to run he in an instant got his arm ripped off, that's a speed blitz. I've only seen hardcore troupe fan boys try to deny it or twist it.
@@ThisIsChris-Anime Knowing what Power Attacks generate helps you not saying something silly again like 'The Attack Jupiter could do Something to a Royal Guard'
feitan would be the best bet against shiapouf with pain packer. shizoku's best matchup is against pitou, since every segment of Pouf is alive. and I think phinx has his best bet with ripper cyclotron against Youpi. as for support, you probably want Machi using her nen strings to tangle up Youpi and stall him for as long as possible, maybe add in Franklin there, to take out eyes or just apply general pressure. he won't go explosive unless you push him which Ripper Cyclotron is hoping to avoid. For Pitou, I want to say a combination of Bonolenov, Shalnark, Chrollo, and Shizoku. Chrollo using his teleportation ability can move Pitou into range for a quick attempt on Black Voice. if that fails, then a second attempt on teleport to cause damage with Jupiter, then keep distance as Blinky does its work. with Chrollo there, it should be easy enough to stall while that happens. Then, Nobunaga just beats the crap out of Feitan until he pain packs near Shiapouf. honestly Pouf is the hardest one to account for, but if he can be stalled long enough for the others to do their job, or they get a lucky hit with Black Voice on Pitou, then I can see this working easily.
I don't think you understand how strong Royal Guards is, A Newborn Pitou alone managed to cut off Kite's Arm and win the fight with little damage, that was her still learning. Any Phantom troupe members wouldnt last long considering even hisoka killed Shalnark with ease. Pitou also tanked a Hit from Meruem which is a massive feat. She also lasted long against Adult Gon which proves how tough she is. Considering all of these feats, She alone would destroy the Whole Phantom Troupe. Everything will depend on the Situation though, If Phantom Troupe is prepared and Chrollo have a very Good Plan guaranteed to win then yes. But encountering any royal guards without any preparation is just death wish.
@@Velznova oh dude, this is giving them an optimal situation. this plan relies on them being fully informed on the Royal Guard's abilities, given time to plan, and given a situation in which each Royal guard is separated from each other. Even then it relies heavily on Chrollo teleporting people to safety and into striking range for Pitou, Stalling Youpi until help can arrive, and the fact that Pouf is just extremely vulnerable to large scale heat based attacks while segmented, which Feitan can provide. That being said, if Pouf for any reason decides to join one of the other fights, even at half capacity, everything still falls apart.
I will like if people will stop overrating a second the Royal Guards. Killua was able to face alone in short periods Youpi. Pitou activated instanly all his 6 senses full out, the moment he felt Zeno. The same Zeno who faced Chrollo, along with Silva. Not to mentions, Pitou still got scratches from Kite who was fighting with only one hand. And I don't need to say that Kite stand no chance with Chrollo alone. Yes, the Royal Guards clearly wins here. It's a different story if only one royal guard face the entire troupe, on specific situations, under a planned strategy. The troupe can take down a royal guard particulary, but not all them together, there, in the palace. Even an nerfed Troupe (without Shalnark and Kortopi) is still scary for the entire black whale : " At their power, they can go whenever, wherever. " And manga readers all know what is on that black whale. Can I say it? In a theoretical way, with prep time, if Chrollo manage to steal Camilla's ablity (Camilla's nen beast allow her, after she is being killed, to one shot her aggresor and revive her), then it's a different story. Chrollo alone would be able to no diff every royal guard particulary, but even Meruem.
Youpi would solo half of pahntom troupe members and Pitou haven't mastered nen when she fought kite, she was a newborn chimera ant. Considering Kite managed to Find Ging and Killed an army of chimera ants in one slash then he is around Hisoka's Level which is stronger than Chrollo. Not to mention, Even Phantom Troupe member was forced to use their abilities against ordinary chimeras, If it were to be any of the Phantom troupe members, Zazan would probably win considering he managed to almost kill feitan if not for rising sun.
@@Velznova See? Right there? The crazy downplay. Chrollo no diffied Hisoka and Hisoka touched him only once. Never ever say Hisoka is stronger. 0 feats, 0 statements for it. To even say that, you directly say that Hisoka beats Zeno, when everyone know Hisoka in reality, it's on par with Illumi. And yes Zeno >>>>> Illumi/Hisoka. That's one thing. Second, again, show me where Zazan almost killed Feitan. Bcs in the anime she only broke on of his arms. Literally no way close to be killed. "If it wasn't for the sun". That's as I would say "if it wasn't for Gon Adult form, he would get killed". Like, that's Literally their power. It is for the sun and btw : Feitan by his own said "It wasn't even a strong one". What that means in your opinion? :)) Also, the fact that the royal guard aren't experienced but just, talented and smart, doesn't change much. Again, the entire troupe together, can take down in particular, a royal guard. And the main arguments for it is bcs : 1. 12 experienced hunters together against 1 only one. 2. That 12 hunters together have nearly infinite versatility (only Chrollo alone have one of the most versatile hatsu in the entire verse). All together is nearly infinite. 3. Let me say a fact. I personally believe Hisoka being as smart as Chrollo, or even a bit greater in intelligence due to his gambling. But the moment Chrollo planned his strategy, Hisoka chances to win was Literally 0. Not even 1%. Just straight up 0%. In particular every royal guard have greater intelligence than them (excepting Youpi), but it's a different story when another experienced genius plans down every move. Alsooo...you still ignored my fact from the main comment. Pitou clearly went all his senses full out the moment he felt Zeno, on the sky. Meanwhile, Chrollo still took that 1vs2 fight. With Zeno. Along with Silva. It doesn't matter how you want to put the problem, there are just many many aspects about what I said in the main comment and I repeat. The entire Troupe against only one chimera, under a strategy made by a genius, it's possible for the Troupe to win, most probably in fact. But the Troupe against all royal guards at once? Nah.
@@Bandit.Chrollo I don't think you understand that Chrollo is always prepared for something just like his encounter with Silva and Zeno, If not for Illumi killing the Ten Dons, he will be dead by now. For Hisoka, he was fully prepared, even if Chrollo told him his whole plan there is no way for Hisoka to win as Chrollo got the Abilities and Perfect Place to Back him up. Royal guards just talented and smart? A Newborn Pitou literally killed Kite with little damage whilst still learning nen. Kite's Feats of finding ging and killing an army of chimera ants in a single slash proves how strong he is while a single phantom troupe was shown struggling to their opponents. I didn't meant the Rising Sun Ability that way, what i was implying was Zazan could've won if it was the other Phantom Troupe Members considering the fact Feitan's Sword was completely destroyed while leaving no damage to zazan, Zazan was also not serious in the beginning of the battle, The real fight started when she transformed. Even so, Base Form Zazan was already going toe to toe with Base Form Feitan which proves how a Royal guard would destroy Phantom Troupe. only way i think of the phantom troupe winning against a royal guard is if chrollo is prepared enough like he did with hisoka. Further more, Pitou managed to last long against Adult Gon and tanked a Hit with Killing intent from the King himself, Meruem.
@@Velznova That's also a thing that I said in my main comment, and I gave an example. Did you read the manga? If yes, then you should know about Camilla's ability. Her ability activate the moment she dies, one shoting the aggressor who killed her, and revive her. If, theoretically, Chrollo manage to steal that ability, he alone can solo beings like Meruem, since that's just way too haxed thing. About Zazan against other phantom members, you may be right. I m not really sure about it, but yes I guess your right. The problem about it is that, the Troupe have half of their members as support members, it wouldn't be fair to put Shizuku for example in that fight. However, again, things change if the entire Troupe is involved at once. For example, Phinks needs time to move his arms, for even an stronger and stronger punch. We don't know how much he can do, or if there is a limit to it, but we know only 15 moves are enough to obliterate a chimera. He literally disintegrated that chimera. If others manage to buy time, he can work as a trump card, to help dealing damage. Idk, I m talking hypothetically. The versatility of the entire Troupe along with Chrollo is just insane. Again, as you said, and that's also what I exactly meant. If the Troupe encounter just one single royal guard, under a strategy (made by Chrollo), they definitely have the edge and most probably win.
@@Bandit.Chrollo Every abilities has their own Limits, If what you were saying is somehow correct, then does that mean Camilla's Ability can kill Goku? Even Hakai, a very powerful ability from Dragon Ball capable of Erasing something from existence even if it's an immortal being has a limit like having an opponent far stronger than the user, has an ability capable of countering it or is prepared with some kind of armor & etc. Simple Logic. For instance, you can't just assume something and make something that puts your character into advantage, if that's what you think then I'll imagine that pitou had 1 year of preparation for the battle in order for it to be fair. But you are correct, A Well Prepared Phantom Troupe can beat a Royal Guard assuming Chrollo had the Perfect Place and Abilities like the fight he had with Hisoka.
people overrate the royal guards wayy too much....they are clearly moore powerful but that doesn't mean they ll win....the troupe has a diverse set of ability and all of them complement each other in some ways
The only reason the invasion went even half as well as it did was because of Dragon Dive, without dragon dive a free reign Pitou would've ended the entire invasion. The Troupe gets low diffed.
Yeah it was also heavily implied that would happen when knuckle met pitou saying that pitou could wipe out the entire team with little effort
This vid is extremly bias
Youpi solos the troupe
Pitou got slapped easily, he cannot stop the invasion. If Knov was not a pussy, the invasion would be easier.
The phantom troupe will lose and this is not even a close match up Youpi aura output alone is over 7k we know this because he would have been able to repay the aura and still have enough power left over to kill Knuckle in one shot if Killua did not save him with a lighting bolt to compare Gon jajanken which is powerful enough to knock out strong nen users like Knuckle and Genthru in one hit only as over 2k units of aura this means that Youpi while not even using Ko is hitting with aura over 3 times more than Gon jajanken on top of that Ikalgo said that even if Gon Killua chimera ant Palm Knuckle Meleoron and himself fight together they would lose to Pitou
Meanwhile Illumi who scales to the stronger members of the troupe did not try to kill Gon because he was being guarded by Biscuit Hanzo Knuckle and several other of Gon friends keep in mind that Illumi had Hisoka for back up but still focus on trying to kill Alluka because he would not have been able to get passed the people protecting Gon
They can't hurt any of the guard because of how huge a gap in aura output there is I can't see them even beating one of the guard let alone all 3 and while manipulators like Sharnalk can defeat more powerful opponent by placing a needle inside of them I don't think his needle would be able to get passed their hard skin that being reinforce with a huge amounts of aura
This is not a contested battle some fans just downplay the guard is all
I agree
Agreed
Lol No, the Royal Guards got outsmarted by 5 people including 2 kids, the Troupe with Chrollo's lead can trap outsmart and kill them.
@@vincedgarvlogs five people including Morel, A veteran and a highly skilled Nen user, he has proven himself to be extremely analytical and with his intelligence, outwitted two powerful Squadron Leaders. Morel can formulate accurate predictions on his opponent's move and has proved to be able to analyse hostile capabilities and thought patterns efficiently. He can devise effective strategies in a matter of instants, always exploiting his or his students' capabilities to the fullest. According to Shaiapouf, his determination, unshakeable will, and confidence in himself bolster his defensive powers greatly. Also, Morel's years of experience can unconsciously lead him to pick the best option. He can keep his cold blood in extremely dangerous situations. an 120+ year old martial arts expert that is the eldest and most experiened. (Netero's seemingly nonsensical, whimsical behavior belies an astounding intellect. When preparing to exterminate the Chimera Ants, he had already made way for Gon and Killua to participate before meeting them; indeed, he had previously predicted the two of them and Palm Siberia would join the mission. He confirmed it later on when he sent Morel a text that included instructions for the boys, while also using the same words Morel had used to describe him a moment before. Since Palm was not mentioned, it seems he had even predicted she would not take part in the assault. Upon reaching NGL, he implied he had already considered the possibility of Nen users being "assimilated" by the enemy. If Netero can correctly anticipate other people's actions, he has, on the contrary, proven time and time again to be completely unpredictable. Zeno Zoldyck described him as having the mind of a plant. In spite of his position, he was able to hide the existence of a son even to the Zodiacs, seemingly with the sole exception of Pariston. However, it is in battle that he shows his full mental prowess: also thanks to his experience, his battle instincts are so honed that Meruem described his selection of offensive moves as "flawless", and specified that it is only through having acquired a pattern-recognition ability similar to foresight that he managed to slip through Netero's attacks)
pouf is extremely intelligent as well. (Pouf claims himself to be the most intelligent of the Royal Guard. He is capable of coming up with and estimating the likelihood of a large number of possible scenarios, is highly skilled at character judgment and manipulation, being able to manipulate not only Gon and Morel, but also Pitou and Meruem himself. He is capable of determining a person's likely course of action with the help of Spiritual Message, giving Neferpitou the impression he could read their mind. Outsmarted Morel, a highly intelligent Nen user himself, forcing him into a tactical dilemma, deduced the source of Morel's power, and quickly formulated a series of plans on the fly to prevent an amnesiac Meruem from remembering Komugi)
Shaiapouf bout to have an identity crisis when he sees chrollo and learns he isn't the smartest person besides the king
Royal guards stomp
Crazy how only a little over 9000 people want high quality HxH and JJK content and lots of shorts every week
The Troupe wins due to teamwork and more abilities, also Chrollo can make a plan and gather the necessary abilities to deal with the Royal Guards, he can even bring a Poor Man's Rose and detonate it without risking death.
Where is he getting the poor mans rose from and what abilities if it took him months to get enough skills to beat hisoka 😭
Once again you're wrong..... How is it that I knew you would be wrong before I even clicked on the video
I dont think the bookmark puppets would work, due to first come first serve, and all of them are being manipulated by Poufe, and he couldnt get sucked by Blinky since every piece of him is still alive, but she would be great for keeping the air clean of his scales. I think Shalnark chipping one of the guards is the highest win %, or Chrollo using Black Voice in conjunction with a stealth or mobility type skill of some sort. Overall, good takes, imo :)
spider chance would increase if they have meleoron as 3rd party.
This is pretty bad. Royal Guard stomp no diff.
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I think giving the Troupe the same information as the Invasionteam is downplaying their biggest strengths: The ability to plan and use their big pool of different support abilities. The Invasionteam was severely limited because Netero could not get many hunters to support him due to Paristons meddling. The Troupe could use Shalnarks black voice to take control of a minor ant and scout out the palace. I think this would work even with Pitous En active. Alternatively they could extract information from someone like Leol or Cheetu using Pakus ability. Either way they could learn of Komugis existence which would be a major boon. Chrollo could devise a plan where they take Komugi as a hostage during the surprise attack. This would probably lead Meruem to negotiate with the Troupe given that he wanted to do something similar with Netero. From there someone as smart as Chrollo could probably figure out how to trick the ants into a disadvantageous position where he can dispose of them, they are naturally very intelligent but lack actual experience.
The speed difference already ends this
Love you man
lol do you really think Spider can defeat Royal Guards? What nonsense content
Yes they can. Chrollo can beat anyone with proper preparation, his potential is limitless
@@vincedgarvlogsI bet you're the type of person who says Chrollo can beat meruem if given enough prep time 💀
The troupe can theoretically win, but one good hit from a royal guard is certain death or at least incapacitation
They would definitely lose most of their members but still win
@@Snipertf2xThe chances of them winning is astronomically low. In reality they would all get speed blitzed like Kite.
No, Shoot took lots of hits and still survives.
@@NeverGoingToGiveYouUp000 Kite was not speed Blitzed, he was protecting Gon and Killua
@@vincedgarvlogs Kite was able to notice he was severely out classed and noticed the immediate danger. While telling Gon and Killua to run he in an instant got his arm ripped off, that's a speed blitz.
I've only seen hardcore troupe fan boys try to deny it or twist it.
The yorkshin phantom troupe with hisoka and uvo can with the royal guards.
Hey here’s a idea add little animated segments in certain spots
What do you mean by that? Like animated manga panels or fully original animated segments?
@@ThisIsChris-Anime like for parts where it’s just you talking and not like any references basically like jaiden animations or odds1lit
I doubt he would be able to because not all people are animators and animation would drastically change his upload schedule anyway
@@dabtrea that’s true
@@ThisIsChris-Anime Knowing what Power Attacks generate
helps you not saying something silly again like 'The Attack Jupiter could do Something
to a Royal Guard'
This some crazy bias vid
what if hisoka become traitor and tell all the plan to the royal guard?
Shizuku could not suck up Pouf if he is alive. She can't suck up living things.
feitan would be the best bet against shiapouf with pain packer. shizoku's best matchup is against pitou, since every segment of Pouf is alive. and I think phinx has his best bet with ripper cyclotron against Youpi. as for support, you probably want Machi using her nen strings to tangle up Youpi and stall him for as long as possible, maybe add in Franklin there, to take out eyes or just apply general pressure. he won't go explosive unless you push him which Ripper Cyclotron is hoping to avoid. For Pitou, I want to say a combination of Bonolenov, Shalnark, Chrollo, and Shizoku. Chrollo using his teleportation ability can move Pitou into range for a quick attempt on Black Voice. if that fails, then a second attempt on teleport to cause damage with Jupiter, then keep distance as Blinky does its work. with Chrollo there, it should be easy enough to stall while that happens. Then, Nobunaga just beats the crap out of Feitan until he pain packs near Shiapouf. honestly Pouf is the hardest one to account for, but if he can be stalled long enough for the others to do their job, or they get a lucky hit with Black Voice on Pitou, then I can see this working easily.
I don't think you understand how strong Royal Guards is, A Newborn Pitou alone managed to cut off Kite's Arm and win the fight with little damage, that was her still learning. Any Phantom troupe members wouldnt last long considering even hisoka killed Shalnark with ease. Pitou also tanked a Hit from Meruem which is a massive feat. She also lasted long against Adult Gon which proves how tough she is. Considering all of these feats, She alone would destroy the Whole Phantom Troupe.
Everything will depend on the Situation though, If Phantom Troupe is prepared and Chrollo have a very Good Plan guaranteed to win then yes. But encountering any royal guards without any preparation is just death wish.
@@Velznova oh dude, this is giving them an optimal situation. this plan relies on them being fully informed on the Royal Guard's abilities, given time to plan, and given a situation in which each Royal guard is separated from each other. Even then it relies heavily on Chrollo teleporting people to safety and into striking range for Pitou, Stalling Youpi until help can arrive, and the fact that Pouf is just extremely vulnerable to large scale heat based attacks while segmented, which Feitan can provide. That being said, if Pouf for any reason decides to join one of the other fights, even at half capacity, everything still falls apart.
I will like if people will stop overrating a second the Royal Guards. Killua was able to face alone in short periods Youpi. Pitou activated instanly all his 6 senses full out, the moment he felt Zeno. The same Zeno who faced Chrollo, along with Silva. Not to mentions, Pitou still got scratches from Kite who was fighting with only one hand. And I don't need to say that Kite stand no chance with Chrollo alone.
Yes, the Royal Guards clearly wins here.
It's a different story if only one royal guard face the entire troupe, on specific situations, under a planned strategy. The troupe can take down a royal guard particulary, but not all them together, there, in the palace.
Even an nerfed Troupe (without Shalnark and Kortopi) is still scary for the entire black whale :
" At their power, they can go whenever, wherever. " And manga readers all know what is on that black whale.
Can I say it? In a theoretical way, with prep time, if Chrollo manage to steal Camilla's ablity (Camilla's nen beast allow her, after she is being killed, to one shot her aggresor and revive her), then it's a different story. Chrollo alone would be able to no diff every royal guard particulary, but even Meruem.
Youpi would solo half of pahntom troupe members and Pitou haven't mastered nen when she fought kite, she was a newborn chimera ant. Considering Kite managed to Find Ging and Killed an army of chimera ants in one slash then he is around Hisoka's Level which is stronger than Chrollo. Not to mention, Even Phantom Troupe member was forced to use their abilities against ordinary chimeras, If it were to be any of the Phantom troupe members, Zazan would probably win considering he managed to almost kill feitan if not for rising sun.
@@Velznova See? Right there? The crazy downplay. Chrollo no diffied Hisoka and Hisoka touched him only once. Never ever say Hisoka is stronger. 0 feats, 0 statements for it. To even say that, you directly say that Hisoka beats Zeno, when everyone know Hisoka in reality, it's on par with Illumi. And yes Zeno >>>>> Illumi/Hisoka. That's one thing.
Second, again, show me where Zazan almost killed Feitan. Bcs in the anime she only broke on of his arms. Literally no way close to be killed. "If it wasn't for the sun". That's as I would say "if it wasn't for Gon Adult form, he would get killed". Like, that's Literally their power. It is for the sun and btw : Feitan by his own said "It wasn't even a strong one".
What that means in your opinion? :))
Also, the fact that the royal guard aren't experienced but just, talented and smart, doesn't change much.
Again, the entire troupe together, can take down in particular, a royal guard. And the main arguments for it is bcs :
1. 12 experienced hunters together against 1 only one.
2. That 12 hunters together have nearly infinite versatility (only Chrollo alone have one of the most versatile hatsu in the entire verse). All together is nearly infinite.
3. Let me say a fact. I personally believe Hisoka being as smart as Chrollo, or even a bit greater in intelligence due to his gambling.
But the moment Chrollo planned his strategy, Hisoka chances to win was Literally 0. Not even 1%. Just straight up 0%.
In particular every royal guard have greater intelligence than them (excepting Youpi), but it's a different story when another experienced genius plans down every move.
Alsooo...you still ignored my fact from the main comment. Pitou clearly went all his senses full out the moment he felt Zeno, on the sky.
Meanwhile, Chrollo still took that 1vs2 fight. With Zeno. Along with Silva.
It doesn't matter how you want to put the problem, there are just many many aspects about what I said in the main comment and I repeat.
The entire Troupe against only one chimera, under a strategy made by a genius, it's possible for the Troupe to win, most probably in fact.
But the Troupe against all royal guards at once? Nah.
@@Bandit.Chrollo I don't think you understand that Chrollo is always prepared for something just like his encounter with Silva and Zeno, If not for Illumi killing the Ten Dons, he will be dead by now.
For Hisoka, he was fully prepared, even if Chrollo told him his whole plan there is no way for Hisoka to win as Chrollo got the Abilities and Perfect Place to Back him up.
Royal guards just talented and smart? A Newborn Pitou literally killed Kite with little damage whilst still learning nen. Kite's Feats of finding ging and killing an army of chimera ants in a single slash proves how strong he is while a single phantom troupe was shown struggling to their opponents.
I didn't meant the Rising Sun Ability that way, what i was implying was Zazan could've won if it was the other Phantom Troupe Members considering the fact Feitan's Sword was completely destroyed while leaving no damage to zazan, Zazan was also not serious in the beginning of the battle, The real fight started when she transformed. Even so, Base Form Zazan was already going toe to toe with Base Form Feitan which proves how a Royal guard would destroy Phantom Troupe. only way i think of the phantom troupe winning against a royal guard is if chrollo is prepared enough like he did with hisoka.
Further more, Pitou managed to last long against Adult Gon and tanked a Hit with Killing intent from the King himself, Meruem.
@@Velznova That's also a thing that I said in my main comment, and I gave an example. Did you read the manga? If yes, then you should know about Camilla's ability. Her ability activate the moment she dies, one shoting the aggressor who killed her, and revive her. If, theoretically, Chrollo manage to steal that ability, he alone can solo beings like Meruem, since that's just way too haxed thing.
About Zazan against other phantom members, you may be right. I m not really sure about it, but yes I guess your right. The problem about it is that, the Troupe have half of their members as support members, it wouldn't be fair to put Shizuku for example in that fight.
However, again, things change if the entire Troupe is involved at once.
For example, Phinks needs time to move his arms, for even an stronger and stronger punch. We don't know how much he can do, or if there is a limit to it, but we know only 15 moves are enough to obliterate a chimera. He literally disintegrated that chimera. If others manage to buy time, he can work as a trump card, to help dealing damage.
Idk, I m talking hypothetically. The versatility of the entire Troupe along with Chrollo is just insane.
Again, as you said, and that's also what I exactly meant. If the Troupe encounter just one single royal guard, under a strategy (made by Chrollo), they definitely have the edge and most probably win.
@@Bandit.Chrollo Every abilities has their own Limits, If what you were saying is somehow correct, then does that mean Camilla's Ability can kill Goku? Even Hakai, a very powerful ability from Dragon Ball capable of Erasing something from existence even if it's an immortal being has a limit like having an opponent far stronger than the user, has an ability capable of countering it or is prepared with some kind of armor & etc. Simple Logic.
For instance, you can't just assume something and make something that puts your character into advantage, if that's what you think then I'll imagine that pitou had 1 year of preparation for the battle in order for it to be fair.
But you are correct, A Well Prepared Phantom Troupe can beat a Royal Guard assuming Chrollo had the Perfect Place and Abilities like the fight he had with Hisoka.
why is hxh scalers so bad bro the troupe cant handle the guards bro
people overrate the royal guards wayy too much....they are clearly moore powerful but that doesn't mean they ll win....the troupe has a diverse set of ability and all of them complement each other in some ways
Nah its you who's clueless.
Learn some 'Powerscaling' and come here again.
Royal guards deserve it considering their feats. Youpi would destroy half of Phantom Troupe members alone
@@Velznova ??
Real
Nah people really be overating the royal guard
Troupe no diffs.
I agree troupe wins but no diff is a bit of a stretch imo
@@ThisIsChris-Anime I said "no diff" in contrary to all the other comments(on purpose) 😂. But Troupe's win is indeed guaranteed.
@@nitro7644 okay that makes more sense haha