TheSuperfluousMan DICE did. I'm a gunner on a Bradley Fighting Vehicle. AP and Sabot are actually the same round. And HE in real world has next to no effect on armored vehicles. HE is best used on soft shelled vehicles like jeeps and trucks.
Rob The Closer I’m not in the army or anything, but I know a fuckload about tanks lol...AP rounds aren’t the same as sabot... A sabot is a structural device used in firearm or cannon ammunition to keep a sub-caliber flight projectile, such as a relatively small bullet or arrow-type projectile, in the center of the barrel when fired, if the bullet has a significantly smaller diameter than the bore diameter of the weapon used. That’s copied from wikipedia lol but my point is they’re different
I feel like this video could've been improved if you actually showed the customization menu showing all the options (and then following up on that with in-game gameplay).
Agreed! Also, the Activ protection doesn't block all rockets. The MBT LAW still hits your tank when activated. I hope they fix that soon (with a lot of other stuff too of course -_-)
SonOfAbaddon No joke. I fell like they are just as powerful/if not more than the attack choppers when it comes to infantry/vehicles. You can destroy infantry nearly instantly with the 30mm guns, and then have rockets for tanks? Bullshit.
The HE (High explosive) has best armour penetration, but least splash damage against infantry. The AP (armour piercing, a solid shot) has least armour penetration but best splash damage. The Sabot (extreme velocity, rod penetrator, fly off barrel packing, no explosive) is a compromise between. WHAT THE FUCK ARE DICE SMOKING?
Its supposed to be HE does most infantry damage and least penetration, AP does medium penetration and medium splash, SABOT rounds have no explosive payload so least infantry damage but great penetration.
+Daniel Fernyhough And it would be APHE(Armor Peircing High Explosive) if it had any explosive filler. Also, doesn't the Abrams tanks also carry HEAT? (High Explosive Anti-Tank)?
+Liam Mattingly ikr, dice really fucked it up, in any other game and real life HE has the least penetration and most splash damage and used against infantry
@@blackberry_seed8390 well, out of the three in game it should do more damage , considering HE won't penetrate any armour unless you hit the roof or smt and AP which usually refers to solid shot is not even used by mbts
@@norfangl3480 cough cough 3BM9 breaking speed records at it's introduction. but it'll be funny when they add realistic HE velocities. and at the same time I still want to roleplay as a 120mm indirect fire Howitzer.
I swear either dice or lvlcap have got the AP and HE rounds mixed up. AP (armour piercing) should have no splash damage but high damage to vehicles and HE (high explosive) rounds should have splash damage but not as much damage to vehicles since its not armour piercing!
Exactly, but no, it's DICE that bucked up. Look at the descriptions in-game/on battlelog. HE should have the highest explosive radius, and SABOT should have zero explosive radius, while dealing the most damage to armor. Keep the reload times the same for all of them. AP should be somewhere in the middle.
AP in the game could mean anti-personnel. If not, almost anything that shoots out of a tank barrel has armor-piercing capability, even if it has an explosive charge, so that's also accurate. The other round is HEAT, not HE. High Explosive Anti Tank, which isn't just an explosive charge, it creates a copper jet. Basically it's an anti armor RPG on steroids, and doesn't focus on an explosive blast. This is why the AP does more blast than HEAT. AP is the most generic term, so has the most balanced use in game.
The biggest thing to worry about as a tankdriver ain't other tanks. The biggest problem is every little infantry-footsoldier who runs around somewhere all over the map. They have C4, rocketlaunchers, mines and of course a little torch that can kill a tank a tank in a few second (Iwould lol if that wouldnt be so sad.) And what does the tankdriver get? A maingun that almost never kills the infantry unless you get a direct hit. If its one inch beside them , you will see a rocket flying at your tank a second later. Nobody is afraid of tanks in this game, which makes them pretty useless.
+Bubble_Games funny and shameful thing about battlefield is that many players think they are better than cod players. their is always the talk about the "cod kiddies" and then these guys run around and use c4 and countless nade- and rocketlaunchers with locker on function. battlefield has become a no skill game over the years
+Bubble_Games You know the mojor issue with c4 is not that get killed very often in vehicles by it. The thing is so many players use it and usually they spot a vehicle and want to detonate it. So they have to run to the vehicle of course. If the tankdriver isnt a newbie he checks his surroundings and will kill severeal of them before he gets killed. Lets say he has killed 3 before he gets killed and the guy who kills the vehicle dies of his own c4 too. That would mean one team would lose 4 tickets alone because of some guys who brainlessly attack with c4. On the opposit side if you are in the vehicle its not really fun if they swarm at you. You get easy kills before you die, but they way you get them is quite annoying. Some guys play tactical. They hide , they try to conquer and then they see a tank and attack straight forward. Basicly they give up all awarness because they can take one ticket from the enemy team. Thats all they do ... one ticket. The driver respawns fast and the vehicle doesnt take that much time either.
+ciiu Wtf is wrong with you? I like watching people flee when I turn into an objective. The only one that really flees from me is the medic because they don't have anything that can go against a tank. every other class can go against a tank. but yah your true
I recall that in battlefront there were critical points on the vehicle that would deliver the most damage, I don't see why they wouldn't put that in the new game.
Uh did they change what the ammo types mean? Because I thought: AP = Armor Penetrating, which tends to be a straight slug designed to puncture a tank and take out the crew and vital instruments, and not much splash damage. HE = High Explosive, which doesn't have as good penetration, but has lots of splash damage. I guess it could be a HEAT which works like a RPG does, but it should still have more splash damage than AP which doesn't even have an explosive payload.
armour-piercing capped ballistic cap (APCBC) is sort of like a ballistic tipped hollow point, save for behind the ballistic head there is a inner core meant to pierce the tank.
Yeah they pretty much got the tank shells all wrong in terms of realism and real world equivalents. They gave Sabot rounds splash damage and the same damage vs armor as the AP round, which is hugely unrealistic. They also made the HE round do the most damage vs armor, which also makes no sense. In real life sabot rounds have have no explosive payload (no spladh damage) and they are the preferred anti armor round. *How they should have done it* -Sabot round: The highest flight speed and highest damage against armor, but no splash damage. -Armor Piercing round: Medium flight speed and medium damage against armor, but also moderate splash damage. -High Explosive: Slowest flight speed and least damage against armor, but very high splash damage.
AngelusDlion Obviously I don't expect games to be 100% realistic. They have to make certain things unrealistic to make the game play better. I'm just saying that the way they set up the Tank shells in BF4 makes no sense from both a realism point of view and a gameplay point of view. IMO, the balance and gameplay would have been better if they had just set them up realistically
This was useful. Can you do an Attack Jet guide? I feel like I have it half figured out: 1) Set up long sightlines parallel to the flow of armored traffic 2)Use laser guided missiles to soften or finish off armor, if no missiles, use the 30mm 3) If the Stealth Jet gets behind you, either barrel roll, serpentine or turn n' burn to escape. I generally try not to get in dogfights with a jet that is generally meant to be air-to-ground.
I havnt played in one post patch, but before that thing was far better a dog fighter than the stealth jet simply because the cannon could burn through in 2 seconds. once a stealth jet gets Active Radar and its 30 mm cannon it becomes better
Level cap, you are one of the few TH-camrs that I really respect, I also think you are a great airsoft and battlefield player. Keep up the great work man
since the cannister shell shares the colddown from main AP it's not reliable to use it :C b4 the patch in BF3 you can acctually get 2 shots 1 ap 1 shotgun and ensure a massive damage to the infantry!...
n00exec they should've kept it the way it was back then. now the canister shell is borderline useless. it's not even close for being so good that you could share a cd with the other shell
In brief, duckbill is shit, full choke is the best, modified choke is ok and it's better than the muzzle break/compensator/nothing. Buckshot gives you the most damage, you might need 2 shots if they have body armor(fuck that perk). Flechette has a higher minimum damage and tighter spread, be prepaired to have to 2 shot people because it has lower max damage. I don't have experience with slugs except that you will have to 2 shot people using body armor(again fuck off with that perk). Laser does nothing, flash light does the same thing as it does on everything else. Use a red dot of some kind.
High explosive has the smaller blast radius, and is more effective against armor? Armor piercing somehow has a better blast radius for killing infantry, and is less effective against armor? Dice, what the fuck?
Or HE is actually HEAT (it says in the description that it's a shaped charge), which would make sense since all the power goes into the ground. APFSDS tho.. WHY DAFUQ DOES IT HAVE SPLASH DAMAGE
+Erasable Potato I would imagine a large heavy tungsten/depleted uranium projectile hitting the ground would kick up alot of rocks and crap off the ground at pretty deadly velocities. secondary shrapnel m8.
DarthFaiLuRe but I mean.. If it can pierce an entire metre of steel (3.28 feet), would it not just make a neat little hole, while all the shrapnel/fragmentation happens like 50cm (~23in) below the ground?
AKA-ART I like how he casually left out smokescreen....then again I don't think he even understands what it does. After ACE did his video explaining the advantages of thermal and smokes I've used both almost religiously.
Nice! Got to know LevelCap on Neebs Gaming. LevelCap got me from 29th place, with 3 Kills, to 3rd place, with 17 kills, in two months.... thx bro!! I'm enjoying the game a lot better now!
In real life, The sabot shell is extremely effective against any kind of vehicle. It is made of depleted Uranium and destroys all matter inside the vehicle because, when it enters the armor, breaks up a lot and has an extremely small particles that move fast so it is better than a shotgun. The Sabot round is mostly used in the US army's M1A1 Abrams tank and can one shot any hostile armor at incredible range. Overall it should a round that is hard to unlock but does massive damage to any vehicle and could possible one shot a tank. Just so you know.
As a tanker with 4200+ MBT kills, this wasn't that bad of a video. But, any shot to the rear will reward a mobility hit. If you don't have the exact 180 degree rear shot, you can still 2 shot any MBT from the rear. Also, the most versatile loadout is the AP + Staff, you won't need any LMG or a gunner to help kill infy. These two shells both have splash damage that is guaranteed to kill, but I usually just hit infy directly. Also, about Reactive, it is absolutely not worth it like you mention in the video. If you have better aim, you won't need to worry about being mobility hit. Autoloader is the best perk because it can let you get 1 more round in a tank battle over the other tanker if he isn't running autoloader. If anyone has any questions about tanks, don't be afraid to ask me either.
Nice vid. Maybe you should have talk about the guided shell as a secondary weapon, a very underestimated ammo I think. When used in combination with the SOFLAM system the gunner can use it's pretty good ! It does 50 damage on a laser painted MBT, IFV or MAA and up to 500 meters away. The laser paiting + guided shell also works on helicopters and almost OHK them like a SABOT or AP shell, and still as far as 500 meters away. Of course it's only good if you're playing as a team with your gunner.
High explosive means it has higher blast pressure, so the gasses move faster. HE has less frag than AP, so it does less damage to targets in the open, but if it hits a vehicle, the gasses basically get trapped inside it, wreaking havoc on the inside.
***** HE is not the same as HEAT. Tanks traditionally carried HE, AP and eventually HEAT. Now western armies generally use the SABOT/HEAT load out. HE is basically an explosive charge whereas the HEAT is what you described above
Curious point with tank aiming - if you have a gaming mouse increase your sensitivity to the maximum setting, it for some reason increases the turret traverse rate to insanely high (I did not think it possible for modern day tanks to turn their turret that fast) allowing for quicker reactions to surprise attacks, 180degree turn less than a second
I personally enjoy Staff Shell the best, it's basically a large anti-vehicle airburst round. You can fire it over obstacles and as long as it passes close to an enemy vehicle it will still airbust and do damage. It even works against enemy aircraft too, so you don't have to be as precise to take out low flying choppers. It's also kind of OP since you can toggle between the main round and the Staff Shell and basically keep firing.
That is so stupid though. Any tank shell that hits right beside an enemy should insta kill them. IT'S A FUCKING TANK SHELL! THEIR FUCKING JELLO WHEN THAT THING HITS BESIDE THEM!!!
I like the canister shell as a secondary. You can literally take out jets, light armored vehicles, choppers, and infantry easily if you can adjust to it. Hmg is definitely my second favorite though.
Brett Henning The did weird stuff with the ammo choices. HE isn't HE in this game, it's actually HEAT, which is why it does little splash damage. AP in this game is most similar to an APBC type round, which are...obsolete, to say the least, but also acts as a dual purpose HE round unlike the misnomer former. And then Sabot is actually real deal APFSDS-T.
Just tried the Sabot Shell and went 44-6 on Zavod (ps3). Didn't know it was that good. I been using the He Shell and Staff Shell combo but this shit right here. Thanks lvlcap.
What made DICE think that a shell designed to kill soldiers should have the lowest splash damage and that AP shells should have any at all. AP is just solid, APHE has explosive filler. Modern tanks don't even use AP anymore, it's just APDS.
***** Lol you have no fucking clue. Please no offence should be taken. Who invented the helicopter? Which country single- handedly ran over the nazis? With what tank? I'm not russian by the way. All engineering is good, just when you say it is not good, just bring forth some evidence will yah? tbh i don't even know if you are talking about the game or in real life. give me info please if i am wrong
TheoryofHobin Actually, he is right in some way. Most of T-90 modifications before T-90АМ release were uncapable of competing with other modern tanks. The only thing it was actually better at was the distance it could go on without refueling. Nothing to do with egineering though, it was created right after the Dissolution of the Soviet Union. Hard times, to say the least. Newest modification is pretty good though. Almost every single problem is solved. Even the loading system that xKingLeopardx was talking about. Sorry for bad grammar.
i like the ap/staff shell combo, it gives me strong anti armor but with the splash damage giving me anti personnel. But i do like the sabot/staff for strickly anti armor engagements, thats a beast combo
Wingzerox02 Which console? PS4 doesn't seem too bad with the crashing and freezing any more. Biggest thing I get upset about is lack of spectator mode and various servers (32 man conquest, 64 player rush, air superiority, larger TDM and domination)
PS3 and I understand that this game isn't meant for current gen consoles since thats the case it shouldn't have even been put on current gen but everyone knows that big companies like DICE an EA love money so they put it out on current gen.
Levelcap, the thing that me and my friend like to run with when playing in the tank is: The He or Sabot shell. The guided shell. I usually use the IR smoke, because the active protection only works for me about 50% of the time. (like missiles still hitting even though it is active) The zoom or thermal optics (to sniff out any explosives) Then my friend as the gunner uses: The irnv. The gunner soflam. (this is amazing when combined with the guided shell for the tank, since you can even take out helicopters.) What do you think about this setup for 2 people?
I think the whole vehicle critical mode is stupid. There's also no reason to use the Smokescreen over IR Smoke, and I think they should buff the Extinguisher.
The Smokescreen does reload in 5 seconds, much faster than the [25 second I think] reload time IR smoke has. AP is still the best countermeasure though
What's wrong with the critical system? I don't have Battlefield 4 at the moment because of how awful the launch is so I'm wondering why. I mean it seems cool and adds another step of realism. I'm not saying Battlefield is realistic I just like vehicles being more dynamic. I feel like Battlefield 3 tank combat was dull and extremely repetitive.
It does add an extra layer to vehicles, however, I feel a bit random to me. I swear, at least twice I've been at 100% health and one rocket sends me to critical mode where I'm slower than a three year old on a tricycle.
Depends on where it hits, or what's hitting you. I'm not a tank scholar by any means, but I'm pretty sure their motors are in the rear, so high-damaging rounds to the back of a tank could potentially cripple it. I like the critical damage effects for tanks, but other thinks like helicopters and attack boats...I'd like to see what exactly constitutes a critical.
I have 5,000 tank kills and my favorite setup is AP and HMG. AP is the best overall round because it's great against infantry and with a lot of practice you can drop your shells into enemy tanks at long ranges without an issue. Basically in tank battles whoever gets the first shot off first usually wins. HMG is just devastating against infantry. It takes about 2-3 shots to drop infantry and its extremely accurately at long ranges and has a rather slow muzzle velocity which is great for taking out people because the rounds all land at the same time. If you want to tank though, you absolutely should run the INFV sights. It lights up infantry and tanks on your screen like a Christmas tree and with some quick reactions you can pop Javelin launchers before the missile even hits you. I personally like to run smoke screen. It has a 10 second cooldown and its useful for infantry team mates, but also for making it harder for other tankers to hit you in duels.
harder than you think.. whenever he got a kill he would have to black it out. i suppose he could just put a permanent block over it but that gets in the way
What about the others secondary weapons? The canister shell for example destroy infantry and deal a massive amount of damage against everything that is not heavily armored from quads to MRAPs to jets (you can one shot all of these if enough "pellets" hit), except the two chopper types somehow (but the higher hit probability offset that). Also the guided shell has a huge anti-vehicle potential if used with the help of the laser designator of a recon.
I prefer the Canister Shell because I normally only fire at infantry if they are within range of RPGing or C4ing me. If I use the HMG, they have time to duck, or they might not expose themselves from cover long enough to kill them. However for the canister shell, you can ONE SHOT infantry within RPG range. You do no damage to them, so they start to get more relaxed and then BOOM they are dead. As an added bonus it does considerable damage to non-armored targets.
There's a lot of room for a LevelCapGaming "how to be a decent BF4 team player" series. I feel people tend to apply most of what they learn into their solo role. Protip, don't drive away from the engineer that is putting his life on line to repair your tank. :-P Also, I probably got most of my tank unlocks while playing co-gunner. That's a good bonus to a worthwhile role to play. But when I'm driving I'm often having to solo it because my squad mates don't care even to spawn in the tank. Anyway, I'd be happy to see tanks getting more starting main gun ammo. That's from someone who love blowing them up more often than driving. They're so vulnerable in a regular game without much more than incidental squad support, that they could be given a bit more offensive oomph to make them fun.
Tanks are so weak on battlefield 4....Everything can destroy a tank in this game, and the slaph damage and the secondary gunner are even worse than bf3....Miss the tank from 1942 and bf2....
LevelCapGaming Levelcap dude you gotta set up a tank battle game, you vs. Xfactor, and maybe Matimi0 and whoever else too, since you guys are all pretty good tank drivers. I'd watch the shit out of that.
I'm not sure if this is actually true, but why I don't like the Abe so much compared to other tanks is because your vertical looking angle when looking at the back of your tank is lower, which makes it more difficult to deal with targets behind you.
I'm pretty good with the tanks but I feel like protective counter measure is the only way to go because to be good in the tank you have to constantly move around and the smoke and flare only protect you from lock on weapons in a small area which makes you a sitting duck for shells and rockets and if you move to evade the shells and rockets then you get locked on right away and can't do anything about it. All the while the protective counter measure blocks all of that and let's you cover more ground while being protected, to hide behind cover or to rush your attacker before they reload again.
First NEVER USE STAFF SHELL if you use it you have no honnor vehical game play is honor based you dont interupt a dogfight weather it be by double teaming a jet or going after a heli in a heli tv missile duel you just dont do tht its not fair and staff shell just is hored it doesnt teach you good tanking it teaches you tht if you have tht you can die to armor not using it unless they are a very good tank driver
Worth considering using Autoloader over Reactive Armor. I have found that the extra damage output you get from the autoloader far exceeds and benefit from the reactive armor.
The reason why I love this game besides graphics and features is the player based aspects. Have you seen the chatbox? it says LAV is a priority, or maybe "I took out an enemy tank" Makes me cry
Hey Lvl ;D How do you like the current state of the guided shell? Back in BF3 it was really awesome to team up with a mate with CITV and absolutly wreck enemy armor and sometimes aircraft. But right now its damage is so low. I hope DICE will increase its damage when hitting LDTs! P.S: rock on and keep up the excellent work!
Loadout: Born in the USA. Engineer class, M4, coyote sites, suppressor and potato grip. 1911 ghost ring and suppressor. Smaw, M2slams, impact grenades, anti-tank filled upgrade. I think this is a nice way to stay off the enemies radar. Finding the best spots for ambushing enemy armor, instead of taking them head on.
I like AP rounds, HMG , auto loader, and active protection this set up allows you get several rounds off and deal with other vehicles and infantry easily
Idk why most players prefer sabot rounds on the mbt, sure it has increased velocity but if you master bullet drop on the ap or he you'll do great, plus the ap shell has big splash so it's good for infantry, with the sabot round, it takes a direct hit to a player to kill them.
LvLCap, I've followed you for most of BF 3 and all of BF 4. I have been playing Battlefield since 1942 and love this franchise. But I can't do this anymore! The patches being released for BF4 are not dealing with the main pillars of what makes a FPS successful: hit detection, optimized server code, and consistent gun mechanics. How many times are you one shot? Kill trading? Not getting hit markers on half your clips? Shot 2 steps behind cover causing you to lose a gunfight? You have the honor of being in a position to represent us, the battlefield community, to Dice, because Dice certainly follows your content. Please post more on what needs to change regarding netcode. Balancing weapons and vehicles will not improve game play. I am in a competitive clan, and we are leaving BF4 and returning to BF3. Why? Try playing a round of BF3 and let the tears of nostalgia tell you why. It simply doesn't matter than the entire map is destructible, or that I have 12,000 camos to choose from, or 500 guns, or 300 attachments........only one thing matters: Am I hitting the guy I am shooting at? Am I being killed fairly? If I'm not, then the game degenerates from primarily skill and small amounts of luck to an equal mix of skill and luck, which is dosed out at random by the server. Game play mechanics can not, MUST NOT, be random and half baked like they are now. You can't drive a Lamborghini on square tires, and that is what Dice has on their hands. I'll still follow your channel, but I can't play this game any longer, it simply isn't worthy of my valuable leisure time after a long day of work. Thumbs this comment up to get Lvl's attention guys!
Hey levelcap this is IMPORTANT yesterday battlefield 4 had 87 assigments now it has 100!! Its like last time with the dragon teeth DLC the assigments were in battlelog 2 week before the release! I think that this info its important please take it in consideration! Pdt: you are amazing keep like that!!
I am premium and the assigments were 2 weeks before the release of final stand for premium members buts thats an old comment now! Final stand have been released already
Lvl i have beat bf4 i have everything in the game until more guns/vehicles are implemented i have everything. Hope you can bet the same keep up the awsomeness that happens behind the mic
the best combo for me is the canister/sabot. use the sabot when your out far and sabot to be deadly on tanks and infantry. for those upclose situations where you need a powerful anti infantry weapon swap over to canister and blow their faces in. i find that this typically works best on golmud railway when playing rush
I am curious LevelCap, when you post a video like this and people can discern the username you play under, do you see an increase in the amount of random friend requests you receive as a result? Either way, good video and keep having fun.
How do you deal with tanks that use Staff shells? I admit using them because I feel I would be at a disadvantage otherwise. This means I have to get up close and personal, I want to get the first shot and make every shot hit. With AP I then always win unless there are a lot of engineer supporting the other tank. How do you handle the guys who will get up close and double shell you? Also, a tip for people using Staff shell loadout: always use AP as main shell. This is actually really effective against infantry (unlike HE and Sabot) and you can compensete the lack of HMG/LMG or a gunner somewhat.
I Had a game about a week ago on dawn Breaker and I went 33-0. started off the round with a RPG to a chopper and then into the LAV I went, then the tank then on foot. best game I have ever played.
For a secondary I like using the canister chill. Was that the right word I used? The shotgun thing. In hardcore, sedge of shanghai, I was owning a bunch of guys trying to get out of Alpha. As I didn't have a minimal or someone in the gunner seat, I aimed the top machine gun to the corner on the left going by the water side. That way if I though someone was trying to be sneaky, at the push of a button I could see if someone was there without moving the main cannon.
I see so many players using the staff shell alongside the SABOT and it's just such a dedicated anti-armour that you lose out against infantry again and again and again. I religiously use the HMG or the LMG, if your gunner is out repairing your tank, you don't want to be fending off advancing infantry with an easily missed shell and a several second reload. When BF4 came out, you could essentially 'rapid fire' the Staff and your standard shell, which made you invincible against other vehicles. A friend and I use to come out on top nine times out of ten with that, but they've since patched it thus essentially eliminating the use unless, as LCG says, you're on a vehicle-intensive match. Similarly, *why* use active protection and reactive armour? It makes no sense, you lose out on such necessities as auto-loader or the scanners if normal mode gameplay is your thing. I have noticed an almost complete absence of guided-shells and the gunner-equipped les-deg. Whether this is because most tank crews don't know each other or it's lost it's effectiveness I'm not sure but I've only seen two, maybe three since I started BF4. Personally, the HEAT with an L/HMG, auto-loader, active-protection and the gunner's phospherous or thermal.
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AP = armor piercing
HE = high-explosive
I don't have the game so either you got it mixed up, or DICE did.
TheSuperfluousMan DICE did. I'm a gunner on a Bradley Fighting Vehicle. AP and Sabot are actually the same round. And HE in real world has next to no effect on armored vehicles. HE is best used on soft shelled vehicles like jeeps and trucks.
What the heck... I owned BF3 and I'm pretty sure they got it right in that game. In any case it's a pretty stupid mistake to make...
It's HEMP, High Explosive Multi-Purpose, which acts as a SC round with an extra explosive filler which doubles as a HE round.
Sabot in BF 4 is basically APCR shells
Rob The Closer I’m not in the army or anything, but I know a fuckload about tanks lol...AP rounds aren’t the same as sabot... A sabot is a structural device used in firearm or cannon ammunition to keep a sub-caliber flight projectile, such as a relatively small bullet or arrow-type projectile, in the center of the barrel when fired, if the bullet has a significantly smaller diameter than the bore diameter of the weapon used. That’s copied from wikipedia lol but my point is they’re different
I feel like this video could've been improved if you actually showed the customization menu showing all the options (and then following up on that with in-game gameplay).
Agreed!
Also, the Activ protection doesn't block all rockets. The MBT LAW still hits your tank when activated. I hope they fix that soon (with a lot of other stuff too of course -_-)
Michael D. Active Radar also mostly comes through. I hate these Scout Choppers...
SonOfAbaddon No joke. I fell like they are just as powerful/if not more than the attack choppers when it comes to infantry/vehicles. You can destroy infantry nearly instantly with the 30mm guns, and then have rockets for tanks? Bullshit.
The HE (High explosive) has best armour penetration, but least splash damage against infantry. The AP (armour piercing, a solid shot) has least armour penetration but best splash damage. The Sabot (extreme velocity, rod penetrator, fly off barrel packing, no explosive) is a compromise between. WHAT THE FUCK ARE DICE SMOKING?
Its supposed to be HE does most infantry damage and least penetration, AP does medium penetration and medium splash, SABOT rounds have no explosive payload so least infantry damage but great penetration.
+Daniel Fernyhough And it would be APHE(Armor Peircing High Explosive) if it had any explosive filler. Also, doesn't the Abrams tanks also carry HEAT? (High Explosive Anti-Tank)?
+Daniel Fernyhough Also, the speeds of the rounds are about a sixth of what they are IRL.
+Liam Mattingly ikr, dice really fucked it up, in any other game and real life HE has the least penetration and most splash damage and used against infantry
+Lars Degroof They patched this a while ago. HE now does most splash against infantry.
Battlefield - Known for its realism yet the SABOT round, a round designed to destroy a tank, does the least amount of damage to a tank
Also it only travels at 265 metres per second. In real life, the travel at around 1400 metres to 1900 metres per second depending on the gun.
@@blackberry_seed8390 and you call that little damage? It can disable a tank with a single shot, assuming it was a good one.
@@blackberry_seed8390 well, out of the three in game it should do more damage , considering HE won't penetrate any armour unless you hit the roof or smt and AP which usually refers to solid shot is not even used by mbts
To begin with the sabot and the ap are basically the same round in real life. For some reason bf decided to have two versions of a same round
@@norfangl3480 cough cough 3BM9 breaking speed records at it's introduction.
but it'll be funny when they add realistic HE velocities.
and at the same time I still want to roleplay as a 120mm indirect fire Howitzer.
I swear either dice or lvlcap have got the AP and HE rounds mixed up. AP (armour piercing) should have no splash damage but high damage to vehicles and HE (high explosive) rounds should have splash damage but not as much damage to vehicles since its not armour piercing!
I always thought AP was anti-personal LOL
Exactly, but no, it's DICE that bucked up. Look at the descriptions in-game/on battlelog. HE should have the highest explosive radius, and SABOT should have zero explosive radius, while dealing the most damage to armor. Keep the reload times the same for all of them. AP should be somewhere in the middle.
TryHardSoviet haha, learn something new everyday
ikr bruv
AP in the game could mean anti-personnel. If not, almost anything that shoots out of a tank barrel has armor-piercing capability, even if it has an explosive charge, so that's also accurate.
The other round is HEAT, not HE. High Explosive Anti Tank, which isn't just an explosive charge, it creates a copper jet. Basically it's an anti armor RPG on steroids, and doesn't focus on an explosive blast.
This is why the AP does more blast than HEAT. AP is the most generic term, so has the most balanced use in game.
The biggest thing to worry about as a tankdriver ain't other tanks. The biggest problem is every little infantry-footsoldier who runs around somewhere all over the map. They have C4, rocketlaunchers, mines and of course a little torch that can kill a tank a tank in a few second (Iwould lol if that wouldnt be so sad.) And what does the tankdriver get? A maingun that almost never kills the infantry unless you get a direct hit. If its one inch beside them , you will see a rocket flying at your tank a second later. Nobody is afraid of tanks in this game, which makes them pretty useless.
+Bubble_Games funny and shameful thing about battlefield is that many players think they are better than cod players. their is always the talk about the "cod kiddies" and then these guys run around and use c4 and countless nade- and rocketlaunchers with locker on function. battlefield has become a no skill game over the years
+ciiu kids play cod, teenagers play battlefield and real men play ARMA
+Bubble_Games You know the mojor issue with c4 is not that get killed very often in vehicles by it. The thing is so many players use it and usually they spot a vehicle and want to detonate it. So they have to run to the vehicle of course. If the tankdriver isnt a newbie he checks his surroundings and will kill severeal of them before he gets killed. Lets say he has killed 3 before he gets killed and the guy who kills the vehicle dies of his own c4 too. That would mean one team would lose 4 tickets alone because of some guys who brainlessly attack with c4. On the opposit side if you are in the vehicle its not really fun if they swarm at you. You get easy kills before you die, but they way you get them is quite annoying. Some guys play tactical. They hide , they try to conquer and then they see a tank and attack straight forward. Basicly they give up all awarness because they can take one ticket from the enemy team. Thats all they do ... one ticket. The driver respawns fast and the vehicle doesnt take that much time either.
+An african Kid More like those who have the hardware to support it play ARMA :D
+ciiu Wtf is wrong with you? I like watching people flee when I turn into an objective. The only one that really flees from me is the medic because they don't have anything that can go against a tank. every other class can go against a tank. but yah your true
I really do hope we see the same concepts of tank combat in Star Wars Battlefront, especially increased damage to the rear.
Or increased damage to the Legs in the AT-AT case or things of the sort
or like in battlefront 1 where the rear gunner on the snowspeeder could fire the grappling hook and the driver flew around in a circle
I recall that in battlefront there were critical points on the vehicle that would deliver the most damage, I don't see why they wouldn't put that in the new game.
A lot of the tanks in battlefront don't have treads...how would a mobility kill work?
I really hope they don't screw with the lore and throw in a bunch of garbage that doesn't exist in the star wars universe.
Uh did they change what the ammo types mean? Because I thought:
AP = Armor Penetrating, which tends to be a straight slug designed to puncture a tank and take out the crew and vital instruments, and not much splash damage.
HE = High Explosive, which doesn't have as good penetration, but has lots of splash damage. I guess it could be a HEAT which works like a RPG does, but it should still have more splash damage than AP which doesn't even have an explosive payload.
AP is a shaped charged warhead, the Solid slug you are thinking of is the SABOT.
armour-piercing capped ballistic cap (APCBC) is sort of like a ballistic tipped hollow point, save for behind the ballistic head there is a inner core meant to pierce the tank.
Yeah they pretty much got the tank shells all wrong in terms of realism and real world equivalents. They gave Sabot rounds splash damage and the same damage vs armor as the AP round, which is hugely unrealistic. They also made the HE round do the most damage vs armor, which also makes no sense. In real life sabot rounds have have no explosive payload (no spladh damage) and they are the preferred anti armor round.
*How they should have done it*
-Sabot round: The highest flight speed and highest damage against armor, but no splash damage.
-Armor Piercing round: Medium flight speed and medium damage against armor, but also moderate splash damage.
-High Explosive: Slowest flight speed and least damage against armor, but very high splash damage.
splewy You're telling me Video Games aren't realistic? Color me shocked! Shocked I say. (Yes this is sarcasm)
AngelusDlion Obviously I don't expect games to be 100% realistic. They have to make certain things unrealistic to make the game play better. I'm just saying that the way they set up the Tank shells in BF4 makes no sense from both a realism point of view and a gameplay point of view. IMO, the balance and gameplay would have been better if they had just set them up realistically
Nothing about the laser guided shell or cannister shell. Nothing about gunner upgrades. Why?
This was useful. Can you do an Attack Jet guide? I feel like I have it half figured out:
1) Set up long sightlines parallel to the flow of armored traffic
2)Use laser guided missiles to soften or finish off armor, if no missiles, use the 30mm
3) If the Stealth Jet gets behind you, either barrel roll, serpentine or turn n' burn to escape.
I generally try not to get in dogfights with a jet that is generally meant to be air-to-ground.
I havnt played in one post patch, but before that thing was far better a dog fighter than the stealth jet simply because the cannon could burn through in 2 seconds. once a stealth jet gets Active Radar and its 30 mm cannon it becomes better
And then there is Jeep stuff
The moment that deciding shot you aimed at the driver missed and the jeep kept going straight at you, you know you're into some deep shit.
JIHAD!!!! :D
mohamed tarek More like kamikaze
admiralprestoncole no, more like jihad.......... smart kid.
admiralprestoncole killing someone with a plane or the SUAV is kamikaze
Waiting patiently on that Planetside 2 gameplay
It’s pretty garbage
That was 6 years ago.
So...the AP (Armor Piercing) round is better against infantry, the HE (High Explosive) is better against tanks. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
Level cap, you are one of the few TH-camrs that I really respect, I also think you are a great airsoft and battlefield player. Keep up the great work man
LVLCAP, would you consider doing a shotgun + attachments session like this. It would be good to understand the changes to the shotgun attachments. Thx
since the cannister shell shares the colddown from main AP it's not reliable to use it :C
b4 the patch in BF3 you can acctually get 2 shots 1 ap 1 shotgun and ensure a massive damage to the infantry!...
n00exec
they should've kept it the way it was back then. now the canister shell is borderline useless. it's not even close for being so good that you could share a cd with the other shell
n00exec
he is talkin about the SHOTGUNS, not cannister :c
canister shell is the tank shotgun... D:
In brief, duckbill is shit, full choke is the best, modified choke is ok and it's better than the muzzle break/compensator/nothing. Buckshot gives you the most damage, you might need 2 shots if they have body armor(fuck that perk). Flechette has a higher minimum damage and tighter spread, be prepaired to have to 2 shot people because it has lower max damage. I don't have experience with slugs except that you will have to 2 shot people using body armor(again fuck off with that perk). Laser does nothing, flash light does the same thing as it does on everything else. Use a red dot of some kind.
Levelcap when are you going to do a guide for the Sidearm Accessories? I just unlocked the Heavy Barrel for the 93R and this thing is just a beast
High explosive has the smaller blast radius, and is more effective against armor?
Armor piercing somehow has a better blast radius for killing infantry, and is less effective against armor?
Dice, what the fuck?
+ManlyMcBuff I think in the game AP stands for anti personnel instead of its usual meaning armour piercing
That would make sense, I suppose :3
Or HE is actually HEAT (it says in the description that it's a shaped charge), which would make sense since all the power goes into the ground. APFSDS tho.. WHY DAFUQ DOES IT HAVE SPLASH DAMAGE
+Erasable Potato I would imagine a large heavy tungsten/depleted uranium projectile hitting the ground would kick up alot of rocks and crap off the ground at pretty deadly velocities. secondary shrapnel m8.
DarthFaiLuRe but I mean.. If it can pierce an entire metre of steel (3.28 feet), would it not just make a neat little hole, while all the shrapnel/fragmentation happens like 50cm (~23in) below the ground?
Lvl cap ur vocab for this video was MASSIVE!!!
oh dear
AKA-ART I like how he casually left out smokescreen....then again I don't think he even understands what it does. After ACE did his video explaining the advantages of thermal and smokes I've used both almost religiously.
Tonk was the guy I learned a lot from too. Him and Cereal actually know what they're talking about haha
AKA-ART It's amazing what actually listening and learning from players better than yourself can do. I too used to drink the LevelCap Koolaid haha
Nice! Got to know LevelCap on Neebs Gaming. LevelCap got me from 29th place, with 3 Kills, to 3rd place, with 17 kills, in two months.... thx bro!! I'm enjoying the game a lot better now!
In real life, The sabot shell is extremely effective against any kind of vehicle. It is made of depleted Uranium and destroys all matter inside the vehicle because, when it enters the armor, breaks up a lot and has an extremely small particles that move fast so it is better than a shotgun. The Sabot round is mostly used in the US army's M1A1 Abrams tank and can one shot any hostile armor at incredible range. Overall it should a round that is hard to unlock but does massive damage to any vehicle and could possible one shot a tank. Just so you know.
About time such a guide came out, thanks Lvlcap!
I'm disappointed you didn't say "tanks for watching."
Very good descriptive video about tanks LevelCap.
This video has helped me out a lot.
Next video: Jets plz.
As a tanker with 4200+ MBT kills, this wasn't that bad of a video.
But, any shot to the rear will reward a mobility hit. If you don't have the exact 180 degree rear shot, you can still 2 shot any MBT from the rear.
Also, the most versatile loadout is the AP + Staff, you won't need any LMG or a gunner to help kill infy. These two shells both have splash damage that is guaranteed to kill, but I usually just hit infy directly.
Also, about Reactive, it is absolutely not worth it like you mention in the video. If you have better aim, you won't need to worry about being mobility hit. Autoloader is the best perk because it can let you get 1 more round in a tank battle over the other tanker if he isn't running autoloader.
If anyone has any questions about tanks, don't be afraid to ask me either.
this guy plays on noob servers constantly
FINALLY. I've been waiting for months.
"Stops you in your tracks" get it? Cuz he's talking about tanks that have treads... Yeah I'll shut up now
Nice vid. Maybe you should have talk about the guided shell as a secondary weapon, a very underestimated ammo I think. When used in combination with the SOFLAM system the gunner can use it's pretty good ! It does 50 damage on a laser painted MBT, IFV or MAA and up to 500 meters away. The laser paiting + guided shell also works on helicopters and almost OHK them like a SABOT or AP shell, and still as far as 500 meters away.
Of course it's only good if you're playing as a team with your gunner.
Ok. High explosive rounds have a smaller splash then Armor piercing rounds? xD
High explosive means it has higher blast pressure, so the gasses move faster. HE has less frag than AP, so it does less damage to targets in the open, but if it hits a vehicle, the gasses basically get trapped inside it, wreaking havoc on the inside.
HE stands for HEAT shell. It's basically a flying shaped charge that's meant to penetrate armor, not fight infantry.
***** High Explosive is something different then High Explosive Anti Tank Ammuniton.
TheHippotail But also HE lacks the penetration, cause it explodes on impact and the explosion first needs to penetrate the armor. =]
***** HE is not the same as HEAT. Tanks traditionally carried HE, AP and eventually HEAT. Now western armies generally use the SABOT/HEAT load out. HE is basically an explosive charge whereas the HEAT is what you described above
Another amazing video as always!
He put an Austrian tank on the tumbnail :)
go get laid nerd
kris ring
How is that related to the topic?
kris ring
generally when people say that kind of thing on the internet they have never had sex even though they tell other people to....
Curious point with tank aiming - if you have a gaming mouse increase your sensitivity to the maximum setting, it for some reason increases the turret traverse rate to insanely high (I did not think it possible for modern day tanks to turn their turret that fast) allowing for quicker reactions to surprise attacks, 180degree turn less than a second
Best. Thumbnail. Ever!
maxx2245_2012 leo2 early models btw
I personally enjoy Staff Shell the best, it's basically a large anti-vehicle airburst round. You can fire it over obstacles and as long as it passes close to an enemy vehicle it will still airbust and do damage. It even works against enemy aircraft too, so you don't have to be as precise to take out low flying choppers.
It's also kind of OP since you can toggle between the main round and the Staff Shell and basically keep firing.
That is so stupid though. Any tank shell that hits right beside an enemy should insta kill them. IT'S A FUCKING TANK SHELL! THEIR FUCKING JELLO WHEN THAT THING HITS BESIDE THEM!!!
Unless it's a sabot, they carry no explosive charge at all!!
cheeseybiscuits100 true.
Balance > realism.
supermutant01 Smart people + rockets + back of tank = dead tank
supermutant01 If you are a good player you would still be able to take it out.
Tjank you LVLCAP for taking an Austrian Tank for your thumbnail picture!
Yes you even have fans here!
Hit a Attack Chopper with tank. Hitmarker not even damage dealt. Well played DICE
I like the canister shell as a secondary. You can literally take out jets, light armored vehicles, choppers, and infantry easily if you can adjust to it. Hmg is definitely my second favorite though.
Staff Sheel+Sabot Round = GG Enemy Tanks
9:12 "Tanks you to the Tank section." Nice one, Level. :)
you would think HE has the biggest splash in real life and AP does not hove like any splash
Brett Henning The did weird stuff with the ammo choices. HE isn't HE in this game, it's actually HEAT, which is why it does little splash damage. AP in this game is most similar to an APBC type round, which are...obsolete, to say the least, but also acts as a dual purpose HE round unlike the misnomer former.
And then Sabot is actually real deal APFSDS-T.
Just tried the Sabot Shell and went 44-6 on Zavod (ps3). Didn't know it was that good. I been using the He Shell and Staff Shell combo but this shit right here. Thanks lvlcap.
He round for tanks. Ap fore infantri for. Hmm, What is wrong...
OMG its just the name it will change nothing in the gameplay
Kim Camps dosen't matter dude it's still a fuck up
I would love more vids like this for other vehicles. Include the passenger options too
Really Dice?
HE High explosive that means a big explosion with shrapnel
AP Armor pearcing ARMOUR PIERCING
I know right? It bugs me so much.
Awesome video LC, and thanks for brightining up my day as well ^.^
hmm HE(High Explosive) Has the lowest splash damage
Christian Shemak No, it is in the middle, and I agree lol.
What made DICE think that a shell designed to kill soldiers should have the lowest splash damage and that AP shells should have any at all. AP is just solid, APHE has explosive filler. Modern tanks don't even use AP anymore, it's just APDS.
+Christian Shemak in the game it seems to be heat. that kinda explains the dmg and low velocity
It does doesn't it
Would be great if you showed footage of weapons/countermeasures while you're talking about them. Enjoy the vids, keep up the good work!
its sad how t-90 shooting sights is broken. It is off too much.
***** and why exactly is it garbage?
***** lol zero fucks is given about your little wikipedia searching.
I dont care what is in real life, i want it fixed and balanced.
***** Lol you have no fucking clue. Please no offence should be taken. Who invented the helicopter? Which country single- handedly ran over the nazis? With what tank? I'm not russian by the way. All engineering is good, just when you say it is not good, just bring forth some evidence will yah? tbh i don't even know if you are talking about the game or in real life. give me info please if i am wrong
TheoryofHobin Actually, he is right in some way. Most of T-90 modifications before T-90АМ release were uncapable of competing with other modern tanks. The only thing it was actually better at was the distance it could go on without refueling. Nothing to do with egineering though, it was created right after the Dissolution of the Soviet Union. Hard times, to say the least. Newest modification is pretty good though. Almost every single problem is solved. Even the loading system that xKingLeopardx was talking about. Sorry for bad grammar.
***** "Russian engineering is garbage" any evidence?
i like the ap/staff shell combo, it gives me strong anti armor but with the splash damage giving me anti personnel. But i do like the sabot/staff for strickly anti armor engagements, thats a beast combo
i always play bf4 after watching ur vids
On console bf4 is literally inplayable because of its constant crashing and freezing systems.
Wingzerox02 Which console? PS4 doesn't seem too bad with the crashing and freezing any more. Biggest thing I get upset about is lack of spectator mode and various servers (32 man conquest, 64 player rush, air superiority, larger TDM and domination)
PS3 and I understand that this game isn't meant for current gen consoles since thats the case it shouldn't have even been put on current gen but everyone knows that big companies like DICE an EA love money so they put it out on current gen.
Levelcap, the thing that me and my friend like to run with when playing in the tank is:
The He or Sabot shell.
The guided shell.
I usually use the IR smoke, because the active protection only works for me about 50% of the time. (like missiles still hitting even though it is active)
The zoom or thermal optics (to sniff out any explosives)
Then my friend as the gunner uses:
The irnv.
The gunner soflam. (this is amazing when combined with the guided shell for the tank, since you can even take out helicopters.)
What do you think about this setup for 2 people?
I think the whole vehicle critical mode is stupid. There's also no reason to use the Smokescreen over IR Smoke, and I think they should buff the Extinguisher.
The Smokescreen does reload in 5 seconds, much faster than the [25 second I think] reload time IR smoke has. AP is still the best countermeasure though
The smokescreen does reload fast, but it's actual "countermeasure" time is like 3 seconds.
What's wrong with the critical system? I don't have Battlefield 4 at the moment because of how awful the launch is so I'm wondering why. I mean it seems cool and adds another step of realism. I'm not saying Battlefield is realistic I just like vehicles being more dynamic. I feel like Battlefield 3 tank combat was dull and extremely repetitive.
It does add an extra layer to vehicles, however, I feel a bit random to me. I swear, at least twice I've been at 100% health and one rocket sends me to critical mode where I'm slower than a three year old on a tricycle.
Depends on where it hits, or what's hitting you. I'm not a tank scholar by any means, but I'm pretty sure their motors are in the rear, so high-damaging rounds to the back of a tank could potentially cripple it. I like the critical damage effects for tanks, but other thinks like helicopters and attack boats...I'd like to see what exactly constitutes a critical.
This is what I've been waiting for
XxNadeSpammerXx Really lvlcap? xD
Great tutorial. I always appreciate your videos
when you play you make it look all complete but really this game is as broken as sonic the hedgehog
better than it was in beta and still better than cod
MineTheCow cod is fine the only problem is spawns that's it it's not buggy or anything like bf4
ok w got cod fannoy Opticfaz3cheaters yo so mlgz zomg shottynahskopes
MineTheCow ok first i like bf more and second did you just have a seizure typing that last comment?
MineTheCow i can tell you're a cod player because you're trash talking like one
I have 5,000 tank kills and my favorite setup is AP and HMG.
AP is the best overall round because it's great against infantry and with a lot of practice you can drop your shells into enemy tanks at long ranges without an issue. Basically in tank battles whoever gets the first shot off first usually wins.
HMG is just devastating against infantry. It takes about 2-3 shots to drop infantry and its extremely accurately at long ranges and has a rather slow muzzle velocity which is great for taking out people because the rounds all land at the same time.
If you want to tank though, you absolutely should run the INFV sights. It lights up infantry and tanks on your screen like a Christmas tree and with some quick reactions you can pop Javelin launchers before the missile even hits you.
I personally like to run smoke screen. It has a 10 second cooldown and its useful for infantry team mates, but also for making it harder for other tankers to hit you in duels.
Lvlcap stop changing your name and just edit a line over your name. I mean, really?? Nade Spammer!?
harder than you think.. whenever he got a kill he would have to black it out. i suppose he could just put a permanent block over it but that gets in the way
What about the others secondary weapons? The canister shell for example destroy infantry and deal a massive amount of damage against everything that is not heavily armored from quads to MRAPs to jets (you can one shot all of these if enough "pellets" hit), except the two chopper types somehow (but the higher hit probability offset that). Also the guided shell has a huge anti-vehicle potential if used with the help of the laser designator of a recon.
LOL " XxNadesPmmerXx
I prefer the Canister Shell because I normally only fire at infantry if they are within range of RPGing or C4ing me. If I use the HMG, they have time to duck, or they might not expose themselves from cover long enough to kill them. However for the canister shell, you can ONE SHOT infantry within RPG range. You do no damage to them, so they start to get more relaxed and then BOOM they are dead. As an added bonus it does considerable damage to non-armored targets.
There's way too many vehicles in BP4...infantry is unplayable in conquest
The Stinger, c4, and aa mine would beg to differ...
There's a lot of room for a LevelCapGaming "how to be a decent BF4 team player" series. I feel people tend to apply most of what they learn into their solo role.
Protip, don't drive away from the engineer that is putting his life on line to repair your tank. :-P
Also, I probably got most of my tank unlocks while playing co-gunner. That's a good bonus to a worthwhile role to play. But when I'm driving I'm often having to solo it because my squad mates don't care even to spawn in the tank.
Anyway, I'd be happy to see tanks getting more starting main gun ammo. That's from someone who love blowing them up more often than driving. They're so vulnerable in a regular game without much more than incidental squad support, that they could be given a bit more offensive oomph to make them fun.
Tanks are so weak on battlefield 4....Everything can destroy a tank in this game, and the slaph damage and the secondary gunner are even worse than bf3....Miss the tank from 1942 and bf2....
You know what else has good "slap" damage? Pimps. Lol
Lol!! You know I meant splash, hahaha
LevelCapGaming Levelcap dude you gotta set up a tank battle game, you vs. Xfactor, and maybe Matimi0 and whoever else too, since you guys are all pretty good tank drivers. I'd watch the shit out of that.
fake. disliked.
How is it fake??? I'm so confused!
Huh? How? xD
lol obviously it was a joke lol
Always informative Level thanks.
Am i the only one who thinks Americas tank is the worst of them all even though they are "technically" the same?
they are not, the Abrams is by far the slowest Tank.
MartinG. Hence why i put the quotations around "technically".
I agree the abram is the slowest and my favorite is the type 99 mbt, because of the speed and mobility
Murica >>
I'm not sure if this is actually true, but why I don't like the Abe so much compared to other tanks is because your vertical looking angle when looking at the back of your tank is lower, which makes it more difficult to deal with targets behind you.
I'm pretty good with the tanks but I feel like protective counter measure is the only way to go because to be good in the tank you have to constantly move around and the smoke and flare only protect you from lock on weapons in a small area which makes you a sitting duck for shells and rockets and if you move to evade the shells and rockets then you get locked on right away and can't do anything about it. All the while the protective counter measure blocks all of that and let's you cover more ground while being protected, to hide behind cover or to rush your attacker before they reload again.
First NEVER USE STAFF SHELL if you use it you have no honnor vehical game play is honor based you dont interupt a dogfight weather it be by double teaming a jet or going after a heli in a heli tv missile duel you just dont do tht its not fair and staff shell just is hored it doesnt teach you good tanking it teaches you tht if you have tht you can die to armor not using it unless they are a very good tank driver
It's a video game, there is no "honnor".
Btw, it's "Honor".
Sorry im french;p
Also, periods ( . ) are great, you should try one sometime.
I just use HE shells and LMG, good combination.
Eisen Heim Or honour.
Can we get a bit more aisroft in their lvlcap? I just bought a gun and was looking for some videos and noticed u didnt have much so maybe a bit more?
id like a video on how the servers work and how to pick a good server. thank. love your videos.
Worth considering using Autoloader over Reactive Armor. I have found that the extra damage output you get from the autoloader far exceeds and benefit from the reactive armor.
Great video. Great gameplay. Great player.
The reason why I love this game besides graphics and features is the player based aspects. Have you seen the chatbox? it says LAV is a priority, or maybe "I took out an enemy tank" Makes me cry
Hey Lvl ;D
How do you like the current state of the guided shell? Back in BF3 it was really awesome to team up with a mate with CITV and absolutly wreck enemy armor and sometimes aircraft. But right now its damage is so low.
I hope DICE will increase its damage when hitting LDTs!
P.S: rock on and keep up the excellent work!
Loadout: Born in the USA. Engineer class, M4, coyote sites, suppressor and potato grip. 1911 ghost ring and suppressor. Smaw, M2slams, impact grenades, anti-tank filled upgrade. I think this is a nice way to stay off the enemies radar. Finding the best spots for ambushing enemy armor, instead of taking them head on.
I like AP rounds, HMG , auto loader, and active protection this set up allows you get several rounds off and deal with other vehicles and infantry easily
Idk why most players prefer sabot rounds on the mbt, sure it has increased velocity but if you master bullet drop on the ap or he you'll do great, plus the ap shell has big splash so it's good for infantry, with the sabot round, it takes a direct hit to a player to kill them.
LvLCap, I've followed you for most of BF 3 and all of BF 4. I have been playing Battlefield since 1942 and love this franchise. But I can't do this anymore! The patches being released for BF4 are not dealing with the main pillars of what makes a FPS successful: hit detection, optimized server code, and consistent gun mechanics. How many times are you one shot? Kill trading? Not getting hit markers on half your clips? Shot 2 steps behind cover causing you to lose a gunfight? You have the honor of being in a position to represent us, the battlefield community, to Dice, because Dice certainly follows your content. Please post more on what needs to change regarding netcode. Balancing weapons and vehicles will not improve game play. I am in a competitive clan, and we are leaving BF4 and returning to BF3. Why? Try playing a round of BF3 and let the tears of nostalgia tell you why. It simply doesn't matter than the entire map is destructible, or that I have 12,000 camos to choose from, or 500 guns, or 300 attachments........only one thing matters: Am I hitting the guy I am shooting at? Am I being killed fairly? If I'm not, then the game degenerates from primarily skill and small amounts of luck to an equal mix of skill and luck, which is dosed out at random by the server. Game play mechanics can not, MUST NOT, be random and half baked like they are now. You can't drive a Lamborghini on square tires, and that is what Dice has on their hands. I'll still follow your channel, but I can't play this game any longer, it simply isn't worthy of my valuable leisure time after a long day of work. Thumbs this comment up to get Lvl's attention guys!
I completely agree with what you said but a car can drive with square tires...Mythbusters :D
Hey levelcap this is IMPORTANT yesterday battlefield 4 had 87 assigments now it has 100!! Its like last time with the dragon teeth DLC the assigments were in battlelog 2 week before the release! I think that this info its important please take it in consideration!
Pdt: you are amazing keep like that!!
I am premium and the assigments were 2 weeks before the release of final stand for premium members buts thats an old comment now! Final stand have been released already
Wicked video, helped heaps! Thanks!
you should do a video explaining all of the different vehicle countermeasures
Thanks for the vid i might actually start using tanks now before i never used them ever
I love the leopard A2 picture you have
Lvl i have beat bf4 i have everything in the game until more guns/vehicles are implemented i have everything. Hope you can bet the same keep up the awsomeness that happens behind the mic
Hey LevelCap, I see you didn't cover the Canister Shell (secondary)... what are your thoughts on it? Is it useful or useless?
the best combo for me is the canister/sabot. use the sabot when your out far and sabot to be deadly on tanks and infantry. for those upclose situations where you need a powerful anti infantry weapon swap over to canister and blow their faces in.
i find that this typically works best on golmud railway when playing rush
I am curious LevelCap, when you post a video like this and people can discern the username you play under, do you see an increase in the amount of random friend requests you receive as a result?
Either way, good video and keep having fun.
Great video! What about Armor wednesday? Like sniper sunday but instead you talk about (armored) vehicles?!
Number 4 on the enemy team! Haha, fun playing with you.
How do you deal with tanks that use Staff shells? I admit using them because I feel I would be at a disadvantage otherwise. This means I have to get up close and personal, I want to get the first shot and make every shot hit. With AP I then always win unless there are a lot of engineer supporting the other tank.
How do you handle the guys who will get up close and double shell you?
Also, a tip for people using Staff shell loadout: always use AP as main shell. This is actually really effective against infantry (unlike HE and Sabot) and you can compensete the lack of HMG/LMG or a gunner somewhat.
I Had a game about a week ago on dawn Breaker and I went 33-0. started off the round with a RPG to a chopper and then into the LAV I went, then the tank then on foot. best game I have ever played.
For a secondary I like using the canister chill. Was that the right word I used? The shotgun thing.
In hardcore, sedge of shanghai, I was owning a bunch of guys trying to get out of Alpha.
As I didn't have a minimal or someone in the gunner seat, I aimed the top machine gun to the corner on the left going by the water side. That way if I though someone was trying to be sneaky, at the push of a button I could see if someone was there without moving the main cannon.
I see so many players using the staff shell alongside the SABOT and it's just such a dedicated anti-armour that you lose out against infantry again and again and again. I religiously use the HMG or the LMG, if your gunner is out repairing your tank, you don't want to be fending off advancing infantry with an easily missed shell and a several second reload. When BF4 came out, you could essentially 'rapid fire' the Staff and your standard shell, which made you invincible against other vehicles. A friend and I use to come out on top nine times out of ten with that, but they've since patched it thus essentially eliminating the use unless, as LCG says, you're on a vehicle-intensive match.
Similarly, *why* use active protection and reactive armour? It makes no sense, you lose out on such necessities as auto-loader or the scanners if normal mode gameplay is your thing.
I have noticed an almost complete absence of guided-shells and the gunner-equipped les-deg. Whether this is because most tank crews don't know each other or it's lost it's effectiveness I'm not sure but I've only seen two, maybe three since I started BF4.
Personally, the HEAT with an L/HMG, auto-loader, active-protection and the gunner's phospherous or thermal.
I love being the enigneer that reapairs actully :D
great video i really enjoyed this thanks