Harsh Reality of Working in Cyber Security
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Hi UnixGuy, just want to say hi as I saw your wearing the white vest as the volunteer on the first day in last week’s Cyber Conference. I personally learned a lot from few sessions in the conference and also volunteered on the 3rd day.
Got a question what is CompTIA’s Healthcare IT?
@@CuriousSoulSimpleMind hey mate, i just saw this comment! did we get a chance to talk? lets chat next time :)
The forefront of WW3 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Screw all that. Working two warehouse jobs definitely aint it. A dread to some is a blessing to others. Im still goin all in! WOOOOOO!!
you got this 🫡
The workload is MASSIVE (for eg NIS2 in EU is forcing a lot of companies to get into cybersec) and there aren't enough cybersec profiles to go around. This can cause a lot of stress and burnout but your company should(!) manage that. I'm in my first cybersec job as presales engineer and the company I'm with is great in their support and people management! Those companies are out there but better to hop untill you find a place where you are happy.
great points - I hear you! Glad you found a great place!
Agree 100%. Congrats!
For the Ego folks, this quote always helps along with other people’s actions that are out of your control. Focus on what you can control, which is yourself. “You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realise this, and you’ll find strength”.
good point!
I’m glad to hear this, it sounds like any career you start. I work physical security right now. I figured it would be similar, but with a computer. As a security officer there is a lot to do but sometimes it feels like your not doing enough. Thank you for the realistic heads up.
Absolutely, you’ll just need to learn the background necessary but yes its just like any other job! start here:
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The haircut is looking FRESH🔥🔥🔥
haha thanks
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@@UnixGuyKeep it like that bro 🔥
Im enrolled at WGU in their CSIA program and love every topic so far. Hmmm... your breakdown sounds like nursing 😆 I've been a nurse for 12 yrs and after watching ppl die, having piss thrown at you, nails dug so deep into your skin, it broke the skin, doctors yell at you, families yell at you, patients yell at you, blamed by nursing management for short staffing, uncooperative coworkers (CNAs, PCTs other nurses), oh yea and let's not forget about nurse ego of those who feel they're more compassionate and knowledgeable than you sir, I can't tell you how ready I am to burn my scrubs and my nursing license in exchange for a desk with 3-6 monitors, business casual attire, quiet atmosphere, working alongside egotistical people who I can feel comfortable learning from instead of those who are trying to have your licensed revoked, a salary that I can actually live off of without working double shifts and picking up a per diem shift just to pay a bill or having to travel all over the country just to make a decent salary (travel nursing) i could go on. I had COVID 3 times because of this career, and I look forward to all the pros and cons of cybersecurity. Thank you for your points of view, though! Sorry to have been so long, but honestly, nothing in CS can scare me after what I've been through in nursing 🥲
I have so much respect for nurses: the hardest working people and the most under-appreciated individuals! I have so many friends who are nurses
I have no doubt you’ll do well in cyber security!
Girl this ignited the rant in me Im a teacher and i feel the exact same way 😅 kids hitting you, hitting each other, had a kid mace the class once that was fun, the bodily fluids (don't even get me started kids are so nasty), the parents screaming and threatening you, not having a special ed class so they're just put in your class with no help, admin not having your back, being paid so little (i found out im making minimum wage -$10.50 an hour) AND admin just had the greatest idea ever for me to plan organize and run summer/winter camps so i no longer get any vacation. Will i get paid for this camp? Or course not! Which also means i get no time to plan the curriculum for the 3 schools they have me at so i get to do that at home for free 😍 and one school decided one of my classes should be grades 3, 4, 5 and 6 all together! Even with all of this, i still believe nurses have it so much harder 😅
@@hayleybarbara1589 Mad respect for you and all the teachers out there!
Yesss!! I'm about to finish nursing school but until right now I didn't know why I was feeling low, lost, not knowing what the hell to do with my life until I discovered this field which to my shame I don't have any qualifications for but I'm willing to try and to learn than to work as a nurse.
It's way more captivating, you feel worthy, doing something different than other normal people and you're not tied up to physical job or to be yelled at by others.
This isn't as boring by any means neither useless but it's the other way around. Plus, not to be nosey but this job pays well also, you can work from home too, you can start learning about hacking (white hat hacking) and really feeling important, like you've stated learning about technology more.
Would you please tell me where are you now with cybersecurity program? Did you take the course? Is it hard?😅
The "boreout" sounds like something that I might struggle with, so thank you for the warning. Awesome video as always 😄
I do too 😜
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I'm a cyber security operations manager and manage a team of 8 engineers. Most of what we do is restoring connections to VPN's, port configurations on routers and supporting customers when they need to a fresh install of an OS after an incident. Cyber security is such a broad term that it can really mean anything. You need to have a clear understanding of which aspect of cyber security you want to specialize in.
I 100% agree and unfortunately I’ve seen this a lot! Your team should be called network security support. I talked about this in my latest video:
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If you’re managing a team of 8 do you have a sec to kind of go over what you look for when hiring? I’m interested in switch because I hate sales ha! But don’t want to invest time and money into a program if it’s not worth it, or if I’m taking the wrong route.
You shouldnt get into Ethical Hacking for the huge salary - you should have a passion for this subject and if the money follows your great work then that is a bonus.
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Facts!! too much Scams but thank you for your help.
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I live around a bunch of old people that are taken advantage of by scammers online because they lack the knowledge of progressing technology advancements and I'm trying to stop that from happening. Plus, I want a job that I can take with me wherever I go even if I go overseas for months on end.
that’s a great cause! please alert the authorities and your local police if you become aware of any scams!
Yeah Boreout totally is true! When you know it's a mature environment and nothing bad with consequence is likely to happen, and your job is a glorified insurance policy, the priority becomes allocating as much time as possible to doing certificates and upskilling during office hours whilst still looking like you're focused on your job.
Most of office chat is suburban dad jokes lol. Ego part is fun to watch - people acting like they're fighting at the frontline of WWIII - so long as you take that to be a circus show. Different personalities take little jabs at each other, half-joking half-serious.
Not the idealised elitist social environment a newbie would expect, but good thing is it takes away any imposter syndrome rather rapidly. One would think if these clowns can do the job, there's nothing stopping one from climbing much, much higher in the industry.
lol too much real life in your comment! It’s sounding more and more like an episode from The Office
it looks like you don't like Elon Musk...
it’s a joke 😆
Meditation and running really helped with my burnout .. and that's just handling work with learning hacking ..
glad to hear that! I need to get back to runningb
It's amazing for clearing your head, also check out Ajahn Brahm - guided meditation if you want to give that a bash. Have a great day dude@@UnixGuy and thank you again for what you do for the community.
LOL you knew what you were doing when you showed Elon Musk for bad ego.
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How much years of experience do you need to get a high salary as cyber analyst
it depends on many factors… but it should increase in 2-5 yrs if you actually continue to learn
Thanks for not making this 20 minutes long ❤❤
no worries! funny though because a lot of people told me they prefer longer videos 🤷🏻♂️
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For the Ego bit, it sounds like you are running into competitive people. Their competitiveness can show on different dimensions. The solution, I'd say, is to give them more responsibility. The humility will come after when they either crack under the pressure or ask for help from others. In cybersecurity giving a person more responsibility and waiting for them to fail could be risky business, so the responsibility you bestow on them needs to be reasonable within security parameters. Befriending them and having friendly competitions also work. They just want to play. That's what I've found.
that’s entirely, some people are competitive… i found are just nasty for no reason it seems 🤷🏻♂️
Nah, you can be competitive without being egotistical. You probably think egotistical people are just being "confident" huh?
@@theoneders2056 I agree with your statement. Egotistical people are unpleasant and one can be competitive without being egotistical.
I believe the disturbance the egotistical person creates is due to their competitiveness in this case. Some egotistical people don't have an urge to compete, so they might not come off as disturbing. I have no means to prove this but I think it makes sense and you are free to disagree.
To answer your question, I don't think that. But you gave me food for thought. Thanks.
I work in vulnerability management and after a couple of years, it has become mundane. I need to move out of it.
Cloud security might be a great path for you:
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hello thank you very much for the video, btw i am planning to join the army for a cyber security MOS and heard that with that you get 'years of experience' and that it greatly help with both finding jobs and getting better paying jobs. Is that true? if so it a significant advantage?
yes it’s a fantastic experience for you! but also consider starting learning to build your skills/knowledge while you gain army experience by following this:
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I hate everything your saying about ego
at this point I am concerned
this is the world we live in, there are bad characters in every field. Be a good person and be a reason to drive a positive change
I quit my role as an L1 SOC Analyst because all I did was escalating alerts that were triggered and following up of emails of the depts in which alerts were triggered under. And filling up excel spreadsheets of alerts triggered. No learning curve. Same daily task. I've gone back to retail now and feel more fulfilled and the job is more meaningful. Still hope to get a cybersecurity job in the future tho, just not as an soc analyst. 😅
To be fair there's a lot to learn with SOC, you are the first line of defense in an incident, so knowing how to correctly identify and react to threats is a big part of what cyber security is. Maybe it's just the place that you worked or maybe you think of cyber as just the offensive part, but before breaking your toys you gotta know how they work and how to defend them.
sorry to hear that! if i were you I would’ve stayed and used the job to study/learn more and move up
@@lfb1260 true, it's the workplace unfortunately 😅 even my L2 and cybersecurity engineer could see and agreed what the L1s are doing at *that* workplace is not really an soc analyst role, and that there's more to being an soc analyst than what I was doing. Thus, the reason why I mentioned I would wanna get back into cybersec someday.
Disclaimer: what I meant not going back as an soc analyst, is doing 12 hour shifts. It took a toll on my health 😅 but yeah should have clarified earlier. But I know for L1s it's a bit hard to find 9-5 soc analysts role in where I live. My L2s from my previous workplace has that privilege though of working 9-5.
@@hazrulfitri6524, woah, so the big part of a 12-hours shift was constant monitoring of alerts and escalating them to the upper level guy? Damn...
@@hqxd7855 Yeah! And worse, the daily follow up emails. Repeat all night long. But for me, it was more to the relevant teams/depts. But that's the gist of my 'SOC Analyst' role. Nearing my resignation, there were more reputable companies with real opportunities to learn and see what SOC analyst job is really about that popped up, but I decided to lay low first and get back my health and happiness in general.
My advice tho, don't rush into trying to get a cybersecurity job. Take your time to learn and do the due diligence needed - look out for the reputation, work culture, salary they offer etc. of the company.
At the end of the day, your health and mental well-being is what matters most.
currently im 17 years old and i code in python ,c,c++,java,bash at normal level...in python i code at good level..i do basic pentesting and bug hunting..can anyone suggest me what shall i learn for more good level..bcoz i study from try hack me but they are not enught i think.
follow this roadmap:
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it feels like the senior positions are the only ones they scream about
there is truth in this, usually the shortage is for someone with 2+ yrs of experience or someone who’s done certs/labs etc
As always brilliant video and insight into cybersecurity. Thank u
Anxiously waiting for ur course.
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Looking forward to the course too 🙌
I’m in the States. I’ve applied to 6 internships for next summer. I’m 25 and no luck yet, there’s positions sure but idk what they are waiting for. I will admit that lack of projects and no certs hurt me. But I will just continue the grind.
Sorry to hear that! focus on what you can control which is certs and projects - you got this
Cyberops associate student level certification
Get them certs :) go grind
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Thank You ! very grateful for your content.
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Hello, I am a professional with about 5.4 years in IT consulting mainly in HealthCare Tech and decided to pursue a degree in Cybersecurity and enrolled into one of the top universities in UK. However, after arriving in Sept and now in Oct I realised that the degree doesn't give me a practical experience with the modules and I am disappointed and want to quit the degree. Could you please help me on how can I get into Cybersecurity Consulting and where do I need to start?
aoa brotha, look into wgu if u havnt already, im doing the cyber security degree and it comes with a bunch of certs to add to ur resume including security+ and pentest and a bunch more security certs alongisde the degree. if you're willing to put in the work, and have the time to put in you could finish in 4-6 months. im on track for 4 months but im not working so i can put a lot of time into it
I recommend you follow this roadmap, do the certs and keep applying to jobs. Consulting, like any other job, you need to study and apply
ah nvm that might be just america
@@UnixGuyThank you for the advice
@@king3169Yeah!
Do anyone know how to remove the x64dbg (32bit) virus ?? (It's icon look like a spider or a bug? 🕷️🐞
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OMG I have boreout with my current job (not cybersecurity)
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Hey man, so I’m currently in high school and I still don’t know what career I want to pursue, my dad has a OT company so I am thinking to pursue a cyber security career, what tips do you have?
hey mate, if that’s what you want you can potentially ask your dad to get you to do some work experience or internship at his company.
Alternatively, start with this course:
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hey man i read one site it told if we get hacking certificate from some of the institution it have short valid date but if we get college degree then it valid for whole life .. i'm currently learning hacking from institution can i need to choose 3 year undergraduate cyber security programme ... people use to say it give too many stress in cyber security job.. i think underdeveloped countries only provide huge opportunities to cyber security job in compare to developed country like your...
the skills you learn are valid for life. If you want to be an ethical hacker, follow this roadmap:
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bro just to clarify that was elon musk the ego guy you secretly were hinting
hehe yeah that was a joke
I’m going to take admission in this degree? Is it good or not? Because I’m from medical background and I also hate maths. Guide me
what degree are you talking about 😂
I am currently working in PAM. I have around 4 years of experience.How should i move ahead...should I stay here..is there enough growth?...or should I explore other aspects of cybersecurity?
Identity is a great area. What you need to do is start studying first. This roadmap is a great compliment to what you do:
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I am seeing several job postings for pentester roles asking for a BS Computer Science degree
and heaps more that don’t ask for a degree. ow this:
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Thank-you for all your advice
You are so welcome 😃
Recently completed both Google Cybersecurity Professional Certificate & Blue Team Level 1 Junior Security Operations Certification after watching your videos... I've also done quite a few labs and have built a homelab for learning. I come from a full stack developer background and I'm almost being laughed out of interviews here in Australia. No degree or 5+ years of experience, then forget it is the feedback I'm getting, so the shortage so many speak of don't seem to apply here.... After nearly 6 months of job hunting I'm considering heading back to software dev roles unfortunately.
Hey Sean,
sorry to hear you had to go through that, looks like you interacted with rude (and dumb) individuals, ‘laughing at someone’ in an interview is not on - no exceptions.
The idea was always to not quit your job, but study on the side and apply until you get a job. Please dont remain unemployed, get a job (anything, even software dev) but continue to learn and apply.
Sorry but the shortage does apply to Australia. there are NEW roles advertised every single day. I don’t know which state you’re in, and how many jobs you applied to
but also, how many interviews have you done? how many interviews did it take to make you feel like giving up?
This is what I would:
- get a job (even if dev)
- continue to apply ti cyber roles
- continue to learn, there is no reason to stop learning. Dont let somone rude interviewer make you change the course of your life
Again, new roles are advertised DAILy in sydney/melb/canberra, less so in other states but it’s not zero
Appreciate the sound advice! The ego component you speak of is something I've experienced on a few occasions. I've lost count on the number of applications, but I think I'm up to about 8 actual interviews. Yep, I'll be looking to get a position doing the dev grind for the immediate future, will see how things pan out. Thanks!
@@Sean-fs1sg Totally understand, and if it makes you feel any better, to this day I still experience ego attacks on me from people who are sometimes younger and less experienced than me. It’s a 100% reflection on them not me by the way!
Like I said; the Australian market is quite good, specially in the cities that I mentioned. I say keep going, being a software developer you’re still in the IT industry so nothing is lost, no reason why you can’t build your expertise whilst you work as a software dev. The knowledge you gained from BTL1 will stay with you but please dont make it the end of your journey.
Once you land a job, I’ll do one of those things (learning wise):
- Do the free stuff here, they might be bit basic but at least they will help keep the information fresh:
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- Buckle up and take more intermediate level training within the defensie side:
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- Because you have a dev background, doing AppSec specific training will give you security knowledge directly tied to your dev experience:
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As for applying to jobs, I have the SEEK app installed on my phone, I filed for ‘cyber’ and ‘cybersecurity’ and see what jobs are advertised and I apply daily, it doesnt take a lot of time
treat it like a game, see if you can do 20 interviews in the next 6 months, you will learn more about companies, make connections and hey a job will eventually come out of it :)
Would you recommend getting a masters in cybersecurity? I currently have a BS degree in business administration but my school offers a masters program in cybersecurity
No I don’t recommend that. Best to follow the roadmaps that I outline in the videos
Hi can you tell in which parts of the world(continents) is cyber security mostly demanding.I myself am from pakistan and its not that demanding here.
most countries!
Can you discuss about Web3 security!! Pleaseeeeeeeeee
it falls under AppSec, watch this:
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Keep it up
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Can you guide me how to become cyber security architect
the guidance you seek is here:
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Hello, im not sure if youll be able to help but what do you think about Data engineering and management of information systems?
it’s a different area altogether
It is super hard to get a job in cybersecurity
no harder or easier than many other discipline. Follow this roadmap:
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Got a question what is CompTIA’s Healthcare IT?
have no idea. read about it on their website. Please stop posting the same comment on all my videos 🤦🏻♂️
@@UnixGuy it's the only way to get a reply back.
it’s not. Spamming your comment multiple times will get you blocked.
will this burn out apply to cloud security as well? I'm guessing it is lol but hey it's life :D
it can happen in any specialisation, it depends more on the organisation/team than on the specialisation itself :)
@@UnixGuy thank you for letting me know. I appreciate all the information and advice you give on your channel :)
The constant report of talent shortage while it’s nigh impossible to find an IT job with degree, certs and projects … is crazy.
sorry to hear that your experience was negative. It is not impossible, as people do get jobs
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What Elon has to do
its a joke
Hi @UnixGuy. Will you be at b-sides Sydney next month?
hey mate, I haven’t planned for it, but i definitely want to do more B-sides in the future! im gonna create a talk to and try to go to as many as possible
@@UnixGuy Cool. You definitely should. Your videos are excellent and I’m sure the talk will be a hit. This will be my first event in the community. Hopefully I will see you at one of these and say hi. I took a break from studying cyber to do a cert iv in IT at TAFE thinking in need to do service desk first before I can pivot to cyber work. Man I miss it and can’t wait to get into again. Just gotta smash out the course and then I’ll probably start in the security blue team course you recommended for newbies.
@@cobraflunkie you will enjoy B-sides its a great event and please continue studying for cert IV, helpdesk is not a must :)
@@UnixGuy , thank you so much. I miss a lot of the cyber stuff but I am appreciating getting the basics more ingrained. The cert is in Networking too so I am getting a lot of exposure to routing and cloud stuff which for me is especially interesting. Packet tracer is a great tool albeit it frustrating at times.
I will summarise cyber security at a large corporation: paper work, paperwork and paperwork
curious how does that work? can you explain in a way someone newbie like me can understand?
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@@jst1clickthere's a lot of defining standards, policies, process and compliance. So yeah you do a lot of documentation.
Depends on the position
Come to London asap
hopefully in the future! I love London!
who doesn't love paying 10 quid for a sandwich lol ..
@@camelotenglishtuition6394 rare we do unless a random sandwich shop
i applied for more then 1000 jobs, and i havnt got a single interview, idk why but i also got good experience, i have good certifications , good resume but still i get no response and no interview to the point that i gave up studying for cybersecurity a month a go.
when you say experience, is this IT experience in a job role?
something’s not right. Someone who applied to a 1000 jobs and has a good resume/cert/experience should’ve got something. I recommend you get someone in the industry to look at your resume and qualifications. 100% something is not right.
yes i have 4 years IT technician experience (not in the US ) @@joelrobert4053
unix came first!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then linux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol true
hey there! i've seem all of your videos and they are very informative and have helped me with various questions and provided me motivation and i hope you don't mind but i think you should change your mic as it doesn't sound natural it feels kinda like a little bit machine generated and not so pleasant to listen to.
hey Aryan, glad you found the videos helpful. I’m thinking of buying a new mic, thanks for the feedback
Why are you the only one who talks negative about the course , ur each and every vedio is like that
Not sure what you’re talking about… what is ‘the course’ ? 😂
So in short what do you suggest to learn for the students like me getting into cyber security that is beneficial for the career . Please guide
I suggest you take the time and watch my videos. I explain it all in details. Start here: th-cam.com/video/6LIUhx95MCU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QSxU1EgY3c5t_2PM
Cyber Security Expert = www.youtube.com/@albert-owusu?sub_confirmation=1
I’ve been on helpdesk/ service desk for 3 years now. And I run into egotistical coworkers and end users smh
yeah it’s a constant struggle unfortunately!
Can't thank UnixGuy enough for always motivating us and giving us the blueprint to success.
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@@UnixGuy r u Egyptian?