Rotolight Neo 2: Wireless Flash without Elinchrom Trigger (Godox/Flashpoint) | HowTo | MyKeyReviews
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- ★ Rotolight Neo 2: Wireless Flash without Elinchrom Trigger/Transmitter.
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Thank you so much . Been having 2 neo 2’s for a while because I didn’t want to pay for the sky port … I never knew I could use my godox triggers and receiver .. works perfectly !!thankyou
Pleased to hear the video helped! 🙂
Woohoo! I have two pair of pocket wizards and both sets fired off my Neo 2 and Neo 3. Thanks for the great video and tips!
Awesome, glad the video helped 😁
Phottix Ares triggers are plug and play with the Neo 2. Zero setup. Very good range on them also.
Thanks well done. I have the Flashpoint (Sony version) and could not get it to work. Now I know why. Hope they fix it soon.
Very helpful, thanks. I've always had trouble with the level on the "Modeling" light vs the level of the flash, which I always set at 1/50 second. I REALLY REALLY WISH the flash was Faster at full power- it's not realistic to say the flash is 2.5 x brighter if they achieve that by just leaving the light ON longer, you know? I want my flash almost always to FREEZE action. Cheers.
You are right, my Godox X1R-S is still not working. I have the Nikon version on order too. Don’t mind having two receivers as if the setup works I will likely buy another NEO2 shortly. Thanks for the review.
*Nick Hills* Fingers crossed they'll be an update soon, though at least you have the other unit coming for now. :)
The Neo 2 has surprised me, may have to buy another at some point too. :)
New firmware www.godox.com/EN/Download.html Problem solved.
Thanks for sharing the update on the firmware Dariusz. I had an interesting journey in updating the firmware for two reasons. One is that I have a Mac and those updates aren't yet available for Mac OS X and the other is that I have the Flashpoint R2 trigger and receiver for Sony. Fortunately once I updated the firmware on the receiver, I was able to use it with my rotolight Neo 2. I had to run a virtual app on my Mac in order to download and install the firmware update. This link below provided some good information on how to set it up. th-cam.com/video/-SG1QpxnJxo/w-d-xo.html
I have just purchased the godox combo for Sony and a neo 2. When I hit the test function it will fire the flash but when I hit the shutter it does nothing. All my settings are identical to yours. Any ideas?
you need to adjust flash settings in the camera i guess.
Awesome! You are the man. Does HSS work with that setup?
It sure does. :)
Thank you, this has been a huge help. Just one thing, it’s pronounced Nik-on, not Ni-kon, meant to rhyme with Nippon, where the company was founded.
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Excellent video - you answered the question that I did not ask but, needed to know. I wonder if a Canon receiver would work with a Sony transmitter. I still have one or two Canon receivers laying around from when I used to shoot on Canon gear...
Thank you for the compliments, glad the video helped.
The Canon version of the receiver should work with the Sony transmitter like the Nikon does. :)
Thank you for that thorough explanation. I was thinking of getting the NEO 2 but i have godox triggers, one for sony and one for canon, so i think i can rig it up to fire the neo. Thank you!
Godox is the actual manufacturer and Neewer/Flashpoint (and so on) just rebrand the products. Neewer rebrands for discount while Flashpoint rebrands to a premium often including accessories and having Godox make small adjustments like a differently coloured LCD screen on the AD600.
you can use the x1 Rs version you just have to update the receiver
*ADAM ROMERO* Yep, but at the time this video was made, there was no update readily available.
MyKeyReviews Thats true, just updating just in case someone is barely watching this this video :)
Updating the Godox software is not easy, in fact for me impossible. In 2009 I threw out my complete windows platform and changed my office 100% to Mac. Desktops and Laptops. Best thing I ever did. Since the change, NO MORE blue screens, NO MORE downtime, NO MORE expensive SW updates.
Godox does NOT support Mac OS at all. As I have no access to a windows computer I cannot update my Godox transmitter,
DAS Photography really I didnt know that, I guess I got lucky and found my Moms old windows xp laptop lol it took me like 5 minutes to update
@@adamromero2296 Thank you
Thank you dear for the explanation
Thanks for this informative video! I just bought a NEO 2 and I'm trying to get it to work with my Godox X1TS trigger and Sony receiver. I can't find a cable to connect the Flashpoint (Godox) R2S receiver to the NEO2. The Godox receiver has a female 2.5mm connector while the NEO2 has a female 3.5mm connector. Please provide a link to the cable you used. Thanks!
You just need to search for a 2.5mm to 3.5mm PC sync cable; though oddly seems quite hard to find at the moment. 😅
@@MyKeyReviews Thanks for responding! 2.5 to 3.5 is hard to find, that's why I reached out to you! If you find a source please inform me. Cheers!
@@krishnastock when I did the video, they were so easy to find 😩 I will keep an eye out though
Thank you so much
Thanks for the video!
*Rotolight* No problem, just wanted to help those who may need it. ☺️
I had been follow to set up the triger from your video, but my rotolight flash do not work, do you know why? My camera sony alpha 7III.
Hi there, from 3:30 have you made sure the settings have been set correctly? So both the transmitter and trigger are on the same group and channel? Also double checked the cable from the receiver is plugged in properly and you have activated Flash on the Neo II?
Thank you dear for your answer, apreciate it. Yes, they had the same channel and group, I had make it. And the cabble also in good condition. If I press the test bottom on the triger receiver and transmitter the rotolight is work. But if I press the camera to take picture, the flash does not work. I think its from the camera setting? Am I right? But, I do not know whice one.
According to Rotolight themselves, you shouldn't need the extra trigger attached to the light. The internal elinchrom supports that same godox trigger that you have right there in fact
No, it only supports Elinchrom.
@@MyKeyReviews I was trying to attach a picture, but if you look down in the comment section of this vidoe, rotolight replies to a guy that asks this question confirming that you can trigger the flash, you just can't control the settings like you can with the elinchrom. I could be wrong, but based on this video and comment section, this was my understanding th-cam.com/video/kT-V4hwTEL8/w-d-xo.html
Great video. I tried ordering a PC sync cable to try this but I can't seem to find the right size for the port on my X1 receiver. What are the specs of that PC sync cable please?
Sorry for the late response, it should be a '3.5mm Plug to 2.5mm Flash PC Sync Cable', the Receiver takes the 2.5mm plug. :)
I have a question I currently have a rotolight neo2 is there anyway I could use the gr iii with the flash capability of my neo2?
I could use a Godox tx1 trigger with the neo2 connected with a Godox flash trigger connection cable. Since the Godox tx1 has the ir sensor it would trigger the neo2 flash option. But I would have to purchased a lightpix flash however I would then Have to use two sources of light instead of just the neo2. Plus the extra $75 I would have to spend on the lightpix. I’m sure there’s a way to just use the Ricoh gr iii, Godox tx1, and my rotolight neo2. Could you help me figure this out?
I don't know much about the Ricoh GR III unfortunately. As I don't own or even used one before, I wouldn't know a set-up option, sorry.
MyKeyReviews thank you I’ll keep asking around
Which cable do I need? 3,5mm to 3,5mm? Have you a link to the PC Sync cable?
3.5mm to 2.5mm cable. :)
Something like: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B087N6T3BX/
@@MyKeyReviews Thank U very much!
If anyone wants to use their X1R-S (Sony Receiver) for this, all you need to do is update the firmware! Version 4 is linked in the video description but there's actually a V5 as of Jan 2018. This fixes the issue with the flash sync cable.
Super easy to update on a Windows machine - if you are Mac like me, here is a GREAT tutorial to get you sorted!
th-cam.com/video/m-ZU0_Tg2nU/w-d-xo.html
Con los godox fc 16 ( los baratos) se puede disparar como flash pero no controla otra funciones
Can it do HSS wired up like this
Yes, HSS works. :)
Hello again mate, do we know why the X1R-S Sony Receiver does not work? It's the weirdest thing, pressing the test button on the X1T-S will fire the light when plugged into the X1R-S, but as soon as you try and use the camera's hot shoe to trigger it theres so fire even though the lights blink showing communication..
Have you tried updating the firmware on the X1R-S?
Thanks for an excellent video.
However, I wonder if you can control the effect on rotolight with the godox transmitter mounted on the camera?
Sincerely Conny
Unfortunately, Godox is just to trigger it, for more control you'll need the official trigger. 😕
MyKeyReviews Thanks for your reply....
I have seen your video but notice it is 3 years old now do you know if the Sony receiver has been updated? Thanks
To my knowledge, it has indeed. :)
There's been many firmware updates by Godox since.
That's cool, as I already have Godox. I guess it will also work with the Godox Xpro?!
The receiver should work with the Xpro Transmitter without issues, can't see why it wouldn't. :)
Is there a Olympus/Panasonic equivalent of this setup?
Unless there's a Godox product compatible, I wouldn't know unfortunately. :(
Great video! What is the name of the cable to connect the trigger with the Rotolight?
*Simbana Photography* Maxsimafoto - 3.5mm to Male Flash PC Sync Cable: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003C1MIH2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_BdbdAbMTRA23X
The Neo 2 - damn expensive, they should have at least include the flash connection as part of the hotshoe adapter, this would have justified the high price. Now we have to find ways around it to get the flash to work, instead of buying another hefty transmitter of £230. Come Rotolight, this simple setup will set anyone back £500 plus
*KozKreole Mizik* If someone was going to buy multiple Neo 2's the Elinchrom trigger would be justified... But when you can only afford to buy one like myself, it's just too much :/
My point exactly, plus i got this solely for their selling point of portability and the flash & LED concept. Can't deny it's not a really good LED/FLASH when shooting a couple of feet away from your subject.
man, you are in every neo 2 videos,complaining; even the official rotolight replied to you; just do not buy the damn thing, what are you trying to say?
this type of light is unique, is a continuos and hss flash; you can not find cheaper; and use the pixelking trigger/reciever, maybe cheaper
Petru B. For your info I own neo ii and other rotolight product my claim is to get their attention as they turning into greediness company similar to the likes GoPro, Canon, Sony etc, . You might not have or own this product but one should understand that we are the ones that keep these company going by buying their product. I have not doubt how unique this product is, but the high value of trigger price. After all if it was a reasonable package, such video as this one to find a work around wouldn’t be surfacing.
Any update as to whether the Sony Godox receivers work yet? X1-RS
To my knowledge it does, the latest update was in 2019, so they've covered a lot of bugs since. Best to update all receivers and transmitters with the latest firmware: www.godox.com/EN/Download.html
Hi, I bought the Neo2 kit with transmitter but unfortunately my transmitter is not recognizing one of Neo2, that’s why is not firing flash sync with other 2 Neo2! Please advice what to do? Thank u
*mrz 1342* You purchased the official Elinchrom transmitter? If so, I couldn't afford that one, so couldn't help.
Though, if you email Rotolight, I'm sure they'll be able to help. :)
What is the exact sync cord used to make the connection to the Neo here? It isn't included with the transmitters is it? Thanks. Jason
*Jason Malwitz* the cable needed is included with the receiver. I think it's a 3.5mm to 2.5mm jack.
Hi and thanks for the great info. I’ve tried to get high speed sync but can’t get over 250th a second, I’m using the A73 and the Nikon receiver like your setup but it won’t work anything I could be doing wrong.?
I've just re-set it up with my A7M3 and it worked fine, upto 1/8000.
Manual mode, flash was on fill. 😯
@@MyKeyReviews Hi Thanks for getting back so soon. not sure whats wrong but I am using the same receiver and the same mode (full manual). I've set the chanel to 1 and group A and switched the hss sync on my godox pro S. Both units are comunicating and I can get the flash to work at the frame rate the camera can do brilliantly but as soon as I go over 250 th darkness sets in lol. I no longer see the flash in my shot. one thing I did notice was afer setting the flash speed on the Neo 2 to 50 th of a second which I believe is what I should be setting it to, after every shot I take, it reverts back to 100th a second ??? I'm holding and turning the right button on Neo 2 to control flash power but over 250 nothing. the flash fires but not in sync with my shot obviously. I have the same trigger as yours so will try that tomorrow incase the pro s is the problem. will let you know how it goes, thanks again for your response and keep up the great work with your channel. best of luck for the future :)
@@MyKeyReviews Hi again, the Godox xpro s will not work with it properly but the X1Ts works a treat just as you said right up to 8000 sec not sure about the xpro as it triggers the flash all the way but not in sync somehow. ahh well at least I can get it now. thanks again.
What about firing on camera on the A7rii since the camera doesn't have a PC sync port?
*ericthestone* I'm planning on making a vid for that soon.
You need the 'X1T-S' trigger, then mount the Rotolight on top and connect the two together with a '3.5mm to Male Flash PC Sync Cable'. After, go into the settings of the trigger, go on option 3 and select "out". ☺️
I now have the on-camera flash video uploading. :)
MyKeyReviews thanks
PC synce cable - I just uploaded a video in this
th-cam.com/video/v4LTuKo_UPY/w-d-xo.html
Does triggering the NEO actually increase it's brightness rating at all?
Using the flash feature is brighter than just using the LED's continuously.
It's a neat product but watch a couple of reviews to see if it's for you.
Dose it work with TTL?
Neo 2 is a manual flash so TTL is not available.
Can I also trigger normal speedlights to work with the Neo 2?
Guess it depends on the set-up you are using.
I'm using Godox triggers and receivers in this video, so if I added Godox speedlights (or compatible brands) into the mix, then you could. I personally don't know how effective it would be mixing them all as I haven't tried it myself.
Thank you for the reply. I was thinking of buying the Elinchrom Rotolight HSS trigger. It is fairly expensive so was hoping for a bit of a universal system that would fire both the Neo 2’s and speedlights. Do you get HSS with the Godox triggers?
will a godox xpro transmitter fire the xt1 receiver > thanks
It should be completely compatible. :)
will the modus viper ttl transmitter fire the rotolight neo ii
*Mel Snelgrove* the only trigger than can fire the Neo II is an Elinchrom Skyport.
If the one you mentioned is set up like mine in the video, then it should. However I do not own that brand, so hard for me to say for certain.
Would this work with Yongnuo triggers?
*Ranjit Dhillon* Should do. 🙂
I take it this will still support HSS? Thanks man really helpful and clear demo!
*RunGunGriff* Indeed it does :)
Ahh Hero! purchased it all thanks for great video!
Would this work with my Fuji xt2
*Shaun.M.* You'll need to get the 'Godox X1T-F' and appropriate receiver and it should work. :)
Maybe it’s just me but the rotolight neo 2 doesn’t seem to work well as a flash. Does anyone else have this problem?
It's certainly not as powerful as a flashgun/strobe, but it does have its uses. You just have to get it closer to the subject.
@@MyKeyReviews Thanks!!
Hi, do the neweer triggers work on godox flash units or only neweer units?
Neewer and Godox worth together, they're basically the same, just rebranded.
@@MyKeyReviews cheers, good to know
Please, What is the guide number of the Neo2 flash?
*Orio Menoni* The guide number? :/
MyKeyReviews en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guide_number
*Orio Menoni* Of course 😂 You caught me as I just woke up lol.
Directly from website:
*3 feet (0.9m) :*
Lux: 2000
Foot candles (fc) : 194
Lumen : 1032
fStop at ISO 200/400/800 : f8/ f11/ f16 (HSS Flash mode *)
*(Measured at 4110 Kelvin, PSU powered, at 1/60th )
*6 feet (1.8m) :*
Lux: 510
Foot candles (fc) : 49
fStop at ISO 200/400/800 : f4/ f5.6/ f8.0 (HSS Flash mode*)
*(Measured at 4110 Kelvin, PSU powered, at 1/60th )
*9 feet (2.7m) :*
Lux: 227
Foot candles (fc) : 21
fStop at ISO 200/400/800 : f2.8 / 4.0/ f5.6 (HSS Flash mode)
*(Measured at Peak output 4110 Kelvin, PSU powered, at 1/60th )
Awesome ;-)
another trigger will be the cactus v6IIs
Does HSS work with this setup..?
*chirag kant* Certainly does!
MyKeyReviews it doesnt work for me the neo fires but my image is still black ;-( i use x1rs and x1st why HSS doesnt work?
Is there any competition to the rotolight yet ? These are cool but $400 lol thats too much especially when this cant over power the sun.
I don't know of any personally; you're right, they are too pricey and so are their accessories... 😐 Should be lower in my opinion.
Expensive anywhere.!!!!
Has there been any updates of the Sony Receiver working with the Rotolight? or are you still using the Nikon Receiver? Thanks
Still using the Nikon as I exchanged the Sony for it, however there is now an update for the Sony version. :)
will this work with a canon 5d>
*Xandrae Ramdeen* You will need the XT1-C trigger for your camera. :)