A lot of NATIONS had us in CAPTIVITY not only ESAU all those that devour the shall be DEVOURED enjoy your KINGDOM because your CAPTIVITY is near and after 1000 years then you will be EXTERMINATED
YAHOVAH IS NOT YESHUA, IT IS FATHER AND SON AND YOU CAN NOT SET THE SON EQUAL TO THE FATHER FOR THAT IS IDOLATRY AND DISRESPECTFULL TO BOTH YAHOVAH MY ADONAI AND YESHUA MY KING AND SAVIOR ,MY BROTHER WHO RIGHT NOW IS SITING IN HIS HUMANFORM RIGHT NEXT TO HIS SPIRITUAL FATHER..... you might not know it but besure God hates you for caling His son Him there is no place in the bible where God confesses that He is His son Yeshua
@@arkangelsdaughter3983 if you don't speak ancient HEBREW the official language of us HEBREW ISRAELITES if you are speaking the YEDISH which these FAKE JEWISH are calling Hebrew THAT IS INCORRECT 🔥📖🔥
@@arkangelsdaughter3983 our GOD of ISRAEL is YAHAWAH his son's name is YAHAWAHSHI if you're NOT of the 12 CHOSEN TRIBES of ISRAEL? if your ANCESTORS were NOT in the land of EGYPT during CAPTIVITY then you would know that this KINGDOM you have built is your HEAVEN and if you Google or read the scriptures you would know who you are and your nationality biblically see the so called white people won't reveal nor admit that our GOD YAHAWAH of ISRAEL calls then ESAU which means WASTED AWAY in which he has a future JUDGMENT i really think alot of them has read this
That young man was one of the most respectful, civil, inquisitive atheists I have seen debating the existence of God. He genuinely seemed to want to seek the truth instead of destroying his “opponent’s” point.
You haven't seen many debates with atheist then, because it's the theist who as a rule lie make claims they can't back ignore what said and refuse evidence and insult the atheist and take glee in the eternal torment they delusionaly believe in.
@@kimfort6116 what if your lord is man made nonsense? Why would anyone give anything to anything without evidence? And to me more correct when all evidence says no? But even then personally I'd still shun your immoral warlord for all his immoral teachings.
@@MichaelDiSalvoSATandACTTutor You think the questioner went from "belligerent to ignorant"? Because I think the host's answers were grossly ignorant showing no evidence whatsoever for God's existence then asserting that as evidence! Not to mention that his immortal soul can be redeemed AFTER death when he can repent in hell - which will be the only point at which any of us will have real evidence! Belligerent means hostile and aggressive, precisely how was the questioner either of those? By questioning your beloved, totally unfounded beliefs?
as a teenager, it's difficult for me to stand true to my beliefs because I don't want to be made fun of or generate discussions, but thanks to videos like yours I am much more confident in myself and I'm even starting to understand the reason why I always come back to God. thank you so much. - sorry for my english. 🙇🏻
Watch videos/read books by Frank Turek, J Warner Wallace, Lee Strobel, Greg Koukl, William Lane Craig and you should be more than confident in your faith, and you'll be better able to defend it 👍
As a Christian myself the guy asking questions asked one that I really enjoyed the surge answer to. He was also so polite! If everyone could talk/debate like this we would be so much better off💛
"I been promiscuous, I been a dirt bag....but when God came into my life, He forgave me" I know that feeling brother.....aint nothing like it. Its like taking a jumbo jet off your shoulders, so you can walk upright again
The best part of this is primarily due to civil discourse. I approach the subject of faith as not knowing the answer. People cannot hear the people they disagree with, while yelling and being disrespectful.
I’m not trying to be mean however in several of the speeches I see so many uneducated young people with an emotional words coming out of their mouth and it’s getting embarrassing what is wrong with young Americans that they are so bored to get up there and speak when they are so uneducated
@@Dave-rz5wl Often in today's culture. The students would shout and try to get the speech shut down. I agree with today's youth being lied to and being told what to think. I applaud the student for asking honest questions and both speaker and questioner listening to on anther. Cheers and God Bless...
If you don’t know the answer then it’s because you haven’t searched. If you believe in God then the only God that makes any logical sense is the God of the Israelites. Yahweh. You can’t logically reason with any other God.
Except his answers were mutually contradictory. God might be a random natural superdimensional something, but it's also the source of morality for humans? What?? How do you jump from "uncaused cause" to "personal intelligence that cares whether you wear clothes and what they're made from"?
I thought he did great. It ultimately comes down to the fact that it doesn't matter what his answers are, atheists are not going to change their views unless God changes them. It's like any other debate. Most are pointless because people aren't going to change what they believe. God and Christianity are about faith. Everything can't be about facts and "proof"....faith is needed. Non- Christians won't ever get it unless they are saved.
Christians don't care if people put them down or agree, I know for a fact what Christ has done in my life and don't need others to agree. I do feel bad though because, in the end, everyone will be judged no matter if you believe or not. I would never push anyone else to agree with me or put others down for different views. I do love seeing peoples questions and answers though on the topic.
@Scoonie their gods aren't real. I've experienced things others have not (non Christians and some Christians) that you can not have proof or facts to show others. I know it's true and that's all that matters to me. This is why I don't debate, because I don't care for others opinions on my faith nor do I need to prove it. It just hurts me to know how many people will regret not knowing God when they die. Again, I know you don't believe it...that's your right.
How so? He was conflating manmade goods to nature and said that because we see the universe and nature, that means God did it, and because God did it, it's his god. He basically said that without providing any evidence to back the claim. Not to mention moving the goal post as to what god is.
No! What's needed is more enlightened people to stand against Christianity and religion in general. As for faith, well it's the worst possible way to truth proven by one little fact, billions of people use faith to find non truth and the majority must be wrong. Is the 2 billion Muslims faith correct? Especially when they are the fastest growing religion. Or the billions of other people in other faith all feeling there truth? Or the 2.4 billion Christians who are shrinking and kinda always been a minority group in world population numbers and 100s of denominations all calling each other fake Christians.
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@@MrTheclevercat Matthew 5:15-16 We don't light a lamp and put it under a bowl.
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@@jameswright... I don't think I get your point. Could you elaborate more on why there is a need for more enlightened people to stand against Christianity and religion in general?
@ Now we both know you do because what I wrote is self explanatory. And the fact you feel the need to lie deflect and ignore proves exactly what I said and meant. But just to stop your ignorance and denial I'll spell it out so simply a primary school child will understand. Religion Christianity well all Abrahamic religions and religion in general are man made nonsense, all based on myths and fables with added lies and the less people believing those myths backing inequality the better and denying rights and facts the better. What is needed is more education to show cult members the trap their in, show the lies they are told and that helps stop the harm to society. It's secular humanists that fight for rights of women and gay and trans different ethnic groups while religion fights against. The bible is wrong historically scientifically and morally and the more people educated in this the better everyone will be. Liking your own comments just makes you look desperate.
While my belief in God is different than this man's, I do like how he answered. He was the confident Christian, one that doesn't feel the need to force his views on others, but to lead them to the understanding he has obtained by explaining what he believes.
I like your point this is not something that can be forced on people they have to come to that realization on their own in the end God bless you be safe
I believe differently as well and agree. He does have intelligent answers. Several of his "I don't knows" are in the scriptures though. One in particular is when he said I don't know where the dead mother is. Well, she's in the grave till she is resurrected in either the second coming of Christ or at the second resurrection of the wicked. If she were anywhere else what would be the point of those events? Right?
@@williammcleroy558 He said he does not know because he didn't know if she accepted Christ in the last moments of life. And he directly stated that as well. That's what was meant by "I don't know" And then he said very clearly where she would be based on that unknown fact. What ever she chose in the last moments.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer Whatever you choose, dead is dead till Christ returns is what I am saying. Of course we don't know where anyone is going till then.
Found the channel just a short time ago... Like two weeks... Am so stoked by Devin's love for the truth. God has truly applied his blessing upon this young man's mission.
Dude that was the best debate I have ever heard in my life and I’ve heard a lot in the last four years of the debates about Jesus and God and being a Christian and all that but that was the best I’ve ever seen very impressed thank you so much for sharing that and I put them in their place to God bless you young man keep up the good work it’s all for Jesus amen
That wasn't really a debate. Dude with the microphone was answering a young man's sincere questions in his search for truth. Dude with the microphone didn't prove the existence of a god.
Devin, I feel like God just answered my 13 year old son's question through you. This is just one thing I love so much about God. Every time I've had a question, it's been answered through another soul without me even asking them the question. It is amazing how God works if you give him a chance as I did. My son came to me the other day and asked me is there only one God and how do we know that God is real. I've raised him to believe in God but I also knew in time he'd have his questions and doubts. I tried to answer him the best I could but I don't know everything. I haven't read the Bible front to back. But from what I know, I've explained to him the best I could and it's been bothering me that i couldn't give him a more clear answer. Then 💥, I wake up, and this video is on my suggestions list to watch. Now I will show him and maybe he can understand better. Thank you for what you do Devin and thank you for this video. God bless you ❤️
don't jump down my throat I only say this because I am a believer who went to Catholic school and has read the Bible front to back you really should read the Bible front to back if you're going to preach it it gives you so many tools you can actually answer questions do it for you you'll feel better afterwards anyway more connected to God
I wish I would have had a father, or someone close to me to answer my questions. I got snapped at for asking questions and told “you’re not supposed to ask questions” from around age 10 forward. Now I’m 46 and still don’t understand so many things about religion, probably because I’m overthinking much of it. Your son is fortunate. I can’t imagine the relief one must feel to genuinely believe, and have the comfort of God when one passes on.
@@Hammerback0 the Lord isn't coming back for a religion or even someone that knows every word of the Bible. Even Satan knows the Bible. The Lord Jesus is coming back for His church which is His children, His bride that is spotless, not perfect. Yes, we are to read His living word the Bible so we can fight the good fight against the evil forces of the spirit realm of hell. Reading the Bible teaches us how to put on the whole armor of God. I don't read the Bible as much as I should but I'm going to change that now. I'm going to start reading the Bible more and live my life for Christ and walk in and with the Holy Spirit. And when Jesus returns I will hear that trumpet loud and clear and meet my Jesus on the cloud. And everyone that gives their heart to the Lord and lives for Him the way they should will also make it in the rapture. Ask the Holy Spirit to help you walk closer to and with the Lord and He will help you every step of the way.
@@Hammerback0 I would say that if you do not understand religion, then you understand it perfectly! It does not make any sense! There are so many contradictions and so many unanswered questions - in ALL religions. And oftentimes, if you ask those difficult questions, the only answer is "you have to have faith". Well, faith is not evidence and faith is not necessarily truth.
This was way over the questioners' heads. It was never an issue of being sent to hell. It was always just a separation from God. He nailed it. Wish I were this eloquent.
Continuing to read scriptures on a regular basis while always praying to the Holy Spirit before reading, and then when interacting with others on topics regarding God, pray to the Holy Spirit to use you as a vessel in Jesus Holy Name, and God will give you the exact words He wants you to use. He will be eloquent through you. It is always Him, not ourselves. But trust God, because convincing the other person is not the goal, reaching them exactly where they are, and giving them the exact words needed to touch their spirit is. And only God knows how to do that, and He needs your fiat to do so through you. That is why constant prayer to the Holy Spirit for guidance throughout one's day is so vital. When you already have that relationship with the third person of the Trinity, it is second nature to hear him within one's being when God wishes to reach others through you. God bless you in your walk with Him.
@bastiat You clearly have not read my comment with charity in your heart. Your reply confuses me on many levels. I'm surprised that my recommendation for someone to read scriptures only after praying to the Holy Spirit has you assuming that I'm *not* suggesting reading the Bible for guidance. I'm also surprised that you assume I am specifically a Protestant Christian based on what I stated. What did I state which is protesting against Church teaching? Is it your belief that Catholic Christians do not read scripture?
@bastiat Is it your claim that Catholics do not believe reading scriptures can aid a person in their lives? Is it your understanding that reading scripture is not an essential part of a Catholic's relationship with their God?
It's all about going to hell and the eternal flames of hell!! Hell is not merely being without God's presence. It is eternally burning in the lake of fire forever!!!!
@bastiat I just read out loud for a patient the story of St Anthony. He was an extraordinary preacher because he meditated daily on scripture and then let the Holy Spirit speak through him by guiding his thoughts and words.
That was such a beautiful exchange. I wish we could have more discussions like that with one another. Both men were respectful both actively listened and replied. No shouting matches. Very nice
@@silentghost751 just because someone can come up with a good story it doesn't make it real. Reality tells me we don't have a magical being that's going to make everything alright.
@@DevinGibson I heard a great way to look at Jesus the other day and it hadn't occurred on me till then Jesus said he must be lifted on the cross like the serpent in the desert of course referring to Moses is bronze serpent who cured the people of their snake bites that doesn't mean the snakes stop biting them it just means every time they looked to it they were cured and did not die Jesus is the same way we live in this world and the snakes also known as Sin will continue to bite us but as long as we keep looking to Jesus we will be healed and restored so I pray we all keep looking to him even when times are hard and remember never let your snake bites Fester.
God bless that young man and his friends. His eyes said a lot when he was done. His doubt cracked. I pray he and hid friends allow Christ in. He was a well spoken and thoughtful man, I think there is hope for him.
My dude! This one was so on point. The discussion was great, the argument was excellent and I also think it made the kid question why he was even an atheist.
@@arthurschamne If that were true you wouldn't be here talking about it, or watching a video refuting your point. There's no way you can explain away intelligent design. When you strap Dynamite to an inanimate object it doesn't create more life. It just destroys it. The big bang just did that on a larger scale. There's no way life accidentally just happened without any guiding hand. Haven't you ever heard of Darwin's own argument saying that if something was irreducibly complex it would disprove his theory? Well guess what, the flagellum is just that. If you remove one piece none of it works. Making it irreducibly complex. Seriously, why are you even here spreading your own misery with people you hate? Nothing you say will change anyone's mind.
@Levi Arkinstein where did Arthur say that he “hated” anyone? Take a step back. And everything your saying is not true. Strapping dynamite to an inanimate object is not even remotely the same thing. You talk about the complexities of the universe and then compare it to the most basic shit you can think of.. HUH?!! Also Arthur has a point. It’s just his opinion of course but “intelligent design” is not relative to anything that we can detect. Religion from all over the world is faith based.
@@LeviTheMagi there is no significant evidence that suggest that life was intelligently designed, if an engineer would design a car as poorly as the life on our planet they would be fired instantly. There is no intelligence in the design of life. Also, how am I spreading misery and I don't hate anyone, I am trying to educate people so they are not deceived into believing the lie of religion
I'm a member of the LDS Church. I like Mr. Tureks presentation. I just wanted to say, and this goes to accepting/rejecting God and the concept of hell, that he is already the light and life of the world. We think we're satisfied with everything and don't need God. But all of which we are most satisfied, as far as the goodness of living, is made so by God. So if we fully reject him, then we are left totally bereft and comfortless. That's all. Carry on. Oh and thanks Devin for saying so much more than Amen.
Brother I am so blessed and happy I found your channel. Please pray for me I am a saved Christian and I am going through a lot of hard times right now. God bless you
Dr. Frank Turek is one of my absolute speakers. I love his sense of humour and how he keeps calm. I've listened to him and watched several of videos. Along with him, I also enjoy Dr. John Lennox, Dr. William Lane Craig, Dr. James White and Dr. David Wood as well. They are good speakers in their respective areas of study of the Christian faith.
ok, let's do some easy counters to Frank Turek's claims: 1.) justification of morality: Aetheist justification of morality for things (such as 'why not to murder innocent people..') is quite simple. It is justified NOT to murder someone by a moral standard in that a very minute percent of people would believe it's okay for someone to murder them (for any given reason). That is all the justification needed to NOT do something. Justification TO do something has a higher requirement for morality. 2.) countering his arguments on S.U.R.G.E: S- Second Law of Thermo Dynamics: claim is it must first be wound up for things to be running down- See Big Bang Theory... the universe WAS wound up, to the point of 'detonation'. U- Universe is expanding: the 'Universe' had a beginning (a single point). This is wrong, the *physical* universe *we* live in began at a single point, this single point has been posited as being repeatedly growing, collapsing and re-expanding, thus the 'Universe' must always exist to create the collapsed point that expands into the universe *we* know now. R- Radiation afterglow: actually called the CMBR, yes, it is the 'smoking gun' for the big bang theory... as stated earlier, NO, the big bang does NOT necessitate an entity to 'create'. G- Great Galaxy seeds: ok, he just stated this as 'a reason' but says nothing as to WHY. E- Einsteins Theory of Corelativity: again... see the counter for "U", same argument applies. each point in S.U.R.G.E. he claims points to the universe NOT being the "uncaused first cause". This is only the case if you believe the origin of the Big Bang of *our* 'current' universe was created rather than part of a natural cycle of collapse and expansion... i.e. *our universe* is NOT the first 'universe' to exist. he then goes on to say that 'beyond the universe' is spaceless, timeless and immaterial. also WRONG. There is a difference between the 'universe' (all of existence) and the 'physical/observable universe'. The latter is expanding, the former has always been and can be infinitely expanded into. (Timeless = No beginning) is also WRONG. Something that is "timeless" *must have* existed before the presence of gravity and speed (the two things that are noted as being what allows time to move at the pace it does), in the cyclical view of the Big Bang I keep referencing this can ONLY possibly happen at the instance of each individual 'Big Bang', at any other point you have either the intense gravity of the universe collapsing (to become the next big bang) or the gravity of the matter/energy of the remnants of the big bang. This makes the Big Bang itself timeless, and thus the 'uncaused first cause' of existence. 3.) here the argument presented is poorly made. The actual argument is closer to Pascal's Wager (please google it first then continue), with one key difference. if we assume that God exists, and that we must worship/follow him to enter heaven... why would we believe/worship in an entity that has CLEARLY (in his own holy book(s)) done so many evil, immoral, unforgivable acts upon our species, just to avoid hell, OR to enter what God considers heaven (NOT what WE consider heaven). Now, as to Frank's response... "you have two paths, either you will be with him or you will not be with him..." This is one of the key points in God being Evil and Unforgivable. If you don't follow him, he will not force you to... BUT he *will* force you into Hellish damnation for NOT following him. By FORCING the punishment of hell for NOT believing in him *IS* his way of forcing people to follow him. It is literally "Do what I say, or I will hurt you in unimaginable ways". Frank even declares this as a "confinement". He gives the scenario of asking the women if they ever had a man pursue them (for full example watch the video around the 8 minute mark) on the basis that the man who tries to force you into loving him is immoral, while the one who asks you to freely return his love is moral. Well, if a man told a woman "you may choose to love me or not, but if you choose not to love me you will be confined to a location for all eternity..." would that not be considered an attempt to force through coercion under threat? Oh, and the '...' part? that's the (where you will be punished) part is left unspoken, which makes it even WORSE.
God doesn't force Heaven or Hell. He gave us free will. If you go to Hell it's your own choosing. If a person is atheist I guess it shouldn't concern them either way. If they don't believe in Heaven then pretty sure they don't believe in He'll. So what's the problem other than it's sad to me when a person can look all around us and see all the beauty God blessed us with and deny him.
@@kathystoneburner4947 the belief that 'God' doesn't force people to go to hell is an example of ignorance. According to Biblical teachings, the Holy Word of 'God', if you do not believe, follow him, AND ask (through Jesus Christ) for forgiveness of your sins, you are not allowed to enter Heaven. As Heaven and Hell are the only two Biblical outcomes for an afterlife, by not allowing those who do not follow (etc.) into Heaven, he *IS* forcing them to go to Hell. This is why the Roman Catholics added the concept of Purgatory so that there would be a 3rd possibility for those who were not evil, but didn't follow (etc.) 'God'. Purgatory has no bearing on most Christian faiths though, and in the rare instance it is mentioned in a non-Catholic sect, it is the waiting area before judgement of whether or not you are worthy of entering Heaven... as in "you're not worthy, go to Hell (the only other possible place to go)". So no, free will is countered by this binary afterlife in which you have no choice simply by not following (etc.) 'God'.
Your rebuttal to SURGE isn't a rebuttal of Frank. This is taught theory in secular institutions which is why he uses it because he feels it is what rational atheists believe.
@@decidethought8802 Hell isn't a location like Cleveland. It is a dimension without God's presence. People who have taken psychedelics will tell you about other dimensions. Scientists who study them have tentative conclusions that subjects are really going somewhere. Why those dimensions suck is because it's filled with entities that live for themselves. It's why the US is now a shithole of consumerism.
Definitely some of the most awesome words I've ever heard uttered on the internet. I pray that Carter & many of young lives were impacked by these words to turn their lives over to Jesus. Thank you so much for sharing. Now for me to carry on your work & share to everyone I know.
@@joshjohnson2600 The logical theist is subjective the logical atheist is objective. The theist is philosophical the atheist is scientific. For me, there may be a Creator but there has thus far been no evidence that does not form part of a circular argument to suggest that a creator is true.
@@joshjohnson2600 Life makes perfect sense to me, to look for an answer as to "why" is exactly the same as to look for "how" - to me. Why does there have to be a supernatural master plan for "why"? Why can the answer to "why" not simply be 'that that is what is bound to happen as things evolve'? Science has shown that it is possible to create the building blocks of life from the materials of the Universe. If God (whichever one you chose) created life, why did it not appear immediately? Why wait 13.7 billion years of nothing much happening? Those, and far too many more, are the "why" questions that make me an Atheist.
@@joshjohnson2600 The more scientists discover, the more they uncover how much we actually can't explain. We are constantly thinking "this is the smallest building block of life" only to discover a new layer. Spontaneous Generation> egg and sperm> cells> proteins> peptides> amino acids> atoms> nucleus> electrons> quarks [smallest thing we know of now]. Even in the definition of quarks they say "we can't break it down any further AS OF NOW" Eric Metaxas has some excellent podcasts about it. I think YT canceled his channel.
Devin, I dig your perspective and the respectful way you communicate your views regarding the subject matter/issues that affect us all in society and the way your work(active contemplation/reflection) attempts to bring about more patience, temperance, and moderation to help us all better understand each other, and the chaotic dysfunction we all face in the world at this unprecedented moment in time. The videos/content you choose to explore in your segments are commendable as well. The work, time, and energy that you have invested of yourself is a worthy, and admirable contribution to the world. In your own unique way, in small simple steps, you are helping to share the Light of the Lord within the darkness surrounding us in this world. Keep doing your thing brother, because it matters! Continue to keep it real, keep sharing the Good News, keep interconnecting those personal links of spirituality, the word, and the fallibility we all face in our struggle with sin. No one knows the hour,…right?!? God Bless you, and your family. Take care brother.
Frank has always impressed me…so intelligent, well-studied and gentle in his delivery and in how he communicates with those who challenge him. I pray blessings over him and his ministry and you too Devin
I have been Born Again since August 1984 and this speaker knock it out of the park! So precise love and fact and Wisdom! Praise Jesus and our Father God! Glory!
I love Frank Turek, he makes things very digestible. The young man who asked questions was also greatly appreciated for his curiosity and his respectful manner. I don’t have to agree with debaters but I always appreciate respectful questions and answers and good dialogue.
This was very interesting, I like this video. Thanks for this video. As a Christian I firmly believe in not pushing your beliefs on anyone and this video shows how you can have a reasonable debate or simply have an informal discussion that is about pure facts.
How do you reconcile that Jesus told us to go into all nations, and proclaim the good news? We can have that reasonable debate with any reasonable person also, you know? If a person staunchly refuses, of course that's on them, and we are not obligated to persist.
@@johnboehmer6683 I think he was talking about groups like Jehovah's witnesses, that literally go door to door and to share their beliefs. That is forcing beliefs on people. I'm sure if someone came up to Matt and asked him what it is he believes and why, he would not have an issue talking about it. I live in Japan where less than 1% of the population are Christian, it's difficult to talk about Christianity and Jesus because they are very tradition focused and many of these traditions are based in Buddhism and Shinto. Also a lot of cults give religion a bad name, so I can see where Matt is coming from.
@@todda2888 Hey Todd, let me ask you the same thing, how do you reconcile what Jesus said? He didn't say "tell them about me if they ask", he clearly said to take the message to them. This, by the way, is not "forcing beliefs" on people, not sure how you could have said that. I even went out of my way to address that already. This edict from our Lord is crucial to the salvation of all. No one gets saved if no one ever did this.
@@johnboehmer6683 I am by no means saying not to get out there and spread the good word, simply pointing out people have different ways to address evangelism. There are people I know for a fact that would straight up reject me and what I am saying if I tried to just go talk to them about Jesus. You have you know your audience, for those people that are atheist or at the least agnostic, I do as Jesus did, show them I still care about them, show them love and compassion, and try to live my life the best I can and as you said, if they staunchly refuse then I just let my actions speak for me and let the spirit work on their heart. I can only do so much....as for living in Japan and spreading the word , it's extremely difficult with a language barrier and an entire nation that has a negative view of organized religion due to cults and other terrible events that happened in the past. To become a Christian here is basically turning your back on your families traditions and they treat you like you are "brain washed". Difficult for sure
No one can make you believe anything. When I was an atheist I hated Christians who demanded that I believe what they believe but had an NO answers to my questions.
I agree, that was so moving. Everyone knows deep down inside themselves the difference between evil and God. It's a choice. What you take in , hearing and seeing affects the heart. Everything can be done in Jesus name, thanks Everyone.
This is the best "argument" I have ever heard regarding God vs. Atheist. This needs to be shared out to the masses. Thank you Devin for sharing this. This post has definitely helped me to be better prepared to answer those tough questions. Thank you again!!!!!!
I enjoyed this perspective as a (poorly practicing) Christian who has been asked questions like these for years. This also makes me curious to see your reaction, or at least a short review of the Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate.
I really disliked that debate, Ken is great at talking to people. But he isn't good at debating. Bill wins that one in terms of debating. Mind you he is wrong. I reccomend kent hovind
Funny how a loss of faith comes with higher educational standards and the availability of information so people can find out more for themselves! Makes it very difficult to peddle nonsensical beliefs.
There is something about attributing all things that are currently unexplainable to the human mind, to an entity that is also unexplainable, leaving a hugh margin of doubt in the conversation.. Such is the circle of religion....
I love a good moral debate. I don’t know if god exists. I think humans have distorted and misinterpreted for malicious reasons the “word” of god and have used it to control the masses. I believe if god does exist, he does not like what we have done with his work.
MANY human beings HAVE distorted and misinterpreted the Bible to serve their own purposes. Simply because PEOPLE do what people do doesn't make the proper interpretation wrong.
@@jamiemiller9268 but the Bible is the “word” of god. If men wrote the Bible and men are flawed, then the Bible is flawed. And the Bible can’t be used to reference or be a source to help claim the Bible is true. Third party sources only. Whose to say the men who wrote the Bible didn’t change what god said to fit their narrative? The Old Testament and New Testament are two completely different books separated by centuries and they stuffed them together. You can thank the Romans for this mess. Shouldn’t have adopted Christianity for the poor to believe in while the elites still believed in their polytheistic religions and controlled the masses with it.
@@L33Reacts Yes, the Bible is the word of God, AND the Bible has been interpreted and reinterpreted and reinterpreted, for centuries, to suit man's purposes. But, if you listen to God, through the Holy Spirit, NOT MAN, you WILL know the truth.
My mans, thank you for sharing this mini debate. Over the past decade, I have gone from atheist to agnostic to now reading the Bible regularly but still having some hang ups on the Christian faith. The hang ups are like this kid’s hang ups, logical but probably uninformed. This was a great clip that filled in some mini gaps already but I am more grateful for the exposure to Frank Turek. I am so excited watch more of his content. Thank you for pointing me in his direction. Keep doing what you do, my friend 🙏
This was the best explanation of who GOD REALLY is that I have ever heard!! Thanx again for your videos brother!!! God bless you and your family! Please keep these coming!!!!
Don’t bother with the other two in this section. You’re not gonna change their minds because they’re already in troll mode. I could sit here and give proof and they’d just write it off because they’re gonna believe what they’re gonna believe regardless what anyone says. May not be very Christian like of me to say that but I’m not gonna waste my time.
@@casper6741 They have a point, God is by all accounts of religious necessity, unprovable. That's because all religions require faith and the worshipping of Stone age texts to believe. God also throws away people into Hell who don't believe in him. I don't know if it was God or Jesus that said this, but one of them said "if you're not with me than your against me". There's no grey area.
Honestly, all Christians should learn how God fits into the more complicated bigger pictures. Then the Atheist's would not dominate our institutions of learning.
@@isaachunt7107 Says who? I actually believe differently. I believe Christians should lean into science and expose the other side of those debates. There is a lot of bad science that goes unchallenged and people think it's solved when it never was because Christians shy away from the debate
The thing with me is that I’m not an Atheist. I’m not the type that doesn’t believe in God. I’m the type that isn’t sure whether or not God Exists. I hope God does exists, but whether he/she does isn’t going to be the factor that makes me do good. The fact that it’s the right thing to do is.
I love the way you put that. Watching a tiny seed grow into a mighty tree is how I know God exists. Also how everything in nature has a purpose. Nature biodegrades, vultures eat carcasses, there are beneficial bugs that eat pests. Plants that die put nutrients back in soil. I love nature. When i have a bad day and all of a sudden i see a beautiful eagle fly, my soul knows its Gods way of letting me know its ok. Everything man has invented was already created by God naturally. The food chain is complex but amazing. The fact that the bible written 2,000 years ago and is still meaningful is amazing. God bless you, you sound like a great person.(i mean no offense to anyone who isnt sure or doesnt believe) God brings me completeness and i want to share the joy. Im not good at telling ppl about him.(im shy) but i really strive to get better at it.
Do you believe that because you are a good person and you do the right thing that your ultimate reward will be Heaven when you die? FYI I'm not asking as a basis of fighting with a stranger on the internet. I'm a knowledge seeker by nature. I love finding out what and why people differ from me.
I’m not an atheist bc i believe in a higher power but I’m not a Christian by any means and I love your channel. I must say this argument for the atheist part was terrible. This guys teachings still has a-lot of wholes in it. I would love to debate with a Christian. Not to change minds but for a better understanding. That young man wasn’t versed enough for this debate
A born again Christian with understanding won't debate with you. Because God tells us not to... Salvation is by grace through faith. If a person chooses not to believe the gospel, we don't force, or try to convince, we LOVE you and PRAY for you.🙏♥️ in JESUS Name.... and keep going...that's it.
The argument *against* the atheist part was full of holes. Downright nonsensical. Indeed, his two answers contradicted each other. For example, if "god" might be a more complex dimension spitting off simpler universes, why would it have anything to do with human morality?
Great presentation. Thanks for posting it! The question I have considered often about hell/sheol is that 1) It's separation from God. If it's being cast into outer darkness (away from God's light), you instantly know you are moving into a bad situation. So you either a) Commit to the author and provider of all that is "good" or b) Reject God including the concept of God and assume the responsibility for that rejection. 2)Separation from God in hell is not an alternate reality where you get anything or everything you desire, but the separation you achieve and reap what you sow for that rejection of God. The bible suggests there is a thirst un-satiated in hell. Any thirst, no matter how small would be a torment after a length of time. So, as a conclusion... must God reward those who reject Him? Ludicrous. And if God is the creator, then he has created all good things and a separation from that God (source of all good things) would be an eternal torment in and of itself, so I need not add anything to hell for it to be an exercise worth avoiding. Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand (mt 3:2) Love the Lord your God with all... and the second is "like" it "to love your neighbor as yourself".
@@thedude0000 I was just looking to find his debates. If you know where they are, PLEASE drop me a link. For me, this is an important topic. Many of my friends are atheist & even they don't always know why. The Creator vs no Creator is the weeds we both get stuck in. I believe in Creation, & think Science backs this up. Thanks so much!
@@dragonslayer7587 Well, we can agree to disagree regarding science backing up a god existing. In fact, science's domain is the natural world and given that most people define god as supernatural, I'm not exactly sure how you think science backs it up.
@@thedude0000 The Bible doesn't tell us how God created the universe, only that HE did. The science behind the 'Bang' theory is as far as I {NOT being a Space scientist} can tell, works & is proven, as far as it can be. As for God, I know you don't believe, but I definitely do. God reveals himself in so many ways to me, I can't believe it's all coincidence. It doesn't mean I need to force you to believe... You seem to be a well educated adult, and have the same choices I have. I'm not put on earth to change anyone. I only know for a fact in my heart of hearts, I was Created by God, and I'm important enough to have been created for a reason. I'm in the last chapter of my life, not the first... I've seen a bunch in last 64yrs. Especially all the archaeological findings that keep providing proof of the Bible stories, {I had faith in before}, as fact. I hope all people have the heart to agree to disagree, however, those of us who do believe, don't want anyone in Hell. It's the reason we are passionate about speaking of God. It's normally done out of love, not hate. Those who push you, probably aren't doing it out of love, but being 'right'... That's NOT God, that's the DARK Satanic & I can't be part of that.
@@dragonslayer7587 _The Bible doesn't tell us how God created the universe, only that HE did_ No offense, but you need to demonstrate the Christian God exist before quoting from the Bible. _The science behind the 'Bang' theory_ Understand that the Big Bang Theory starts with a singularity. It does not discuss or explain how the singularity was there nor what happen prior to the singularity. Again, it does not lend it's self to a god.
Some people will go to Limbo not Hell. I remember when I was learning my catechism and the very first question and answer in my book was, "Why did God create us?" "So we can know, love and serve Him on Earth and be happy with Him forever in Heaven." 🙂
Always love the gospel preaching Bro. Your getting good at it . Praise God. Frank turek is great have a look at Dr Greg bahnsen and sye ten bruggencate who teach apologetics
Man, I appreciate that!! Just doing whatever the Good Lord allows me to do on this platform to share the Gospel. I'll definitely have to look into Greg as well💪🏼
Hey man would love to see your reaction/opinion on William lane Craig! One of, if not the most formidable Christian apologist and philosopher. He debates the origins of the universe and the existence of God and runs intellectual circles around some of the leading atheists. On top of all that, his faith is genuine and he absolutely glows with the light of God. Cheers
That's correct. He will leave you alone. When you're sick, he won't be there. When you're in physical pain, he won't be there. When you're in trouble, he won't be there. But yet he loves you.
It's so hilarious to listen to someone talk about the big bang and astronomy as part of their argument for a deity that they allege created the heavens and the Earth 6000 years ago. I guess we're supposed to ignore all those Stars 50 billion light years away whose light took 50 billion years to get here.
Devin thank you for doing videos like this as well as political. When I think about how wise God is blows my mind. He put in our DNA to do right, but in the flesh is no good thing, and therefore He gave us His Holy Spirit. I honestly believe that atheists believe in God, but have deceived themselves that there isn't a God. It's says in other words, we have no excuse (Rom 1:20) because even unbelievers are simply suppressing the knowledge of God (Rom 1:18) and know that He exists.
Spot on brother!! Couldn't agree with you more. On another note, thank you for the love on my videos and I pray for nothing but peace and happiness in abundance for you and yours🙏🏼💪🏼
I can't speak for all atheists but no, I dismiss the claim there is a "god". This has always been the case. The vast majority of people in the UK aren't religious, I only know one religious person (she's old, though and not British).
@@muzak913 He doesn't send anyone to damnation that's a choice. God isn't going to force anyone to be with Him who doesn't want to be. If God forced someone to be with Him then they will be a hostage. God is going to accept those who accept them. Would you allow an unapologetic enemy live with you? Probably not but doesn't mean you hate them but means you guess will never have peace.
MAN WOW ! This man Frank Turek explained that so perfectly I just loved it ! I am a Christian warrior myself and I have had debates with folks before about the big bang and just wish I would of had Frank's knowledge because like you said Devon my man he turned that atheist to god in 5 min with his beautiful explanation ! love your channel brother !
Just heard a great song sung by the Tunner family Band Gospel., and so much more the name of the song was " When Jesus was on the Cross, he was thinking of me." Ever think about all the sinners the sin Jesus took for us went to Sweet Jesus that day those before and those during and all those that came after God Bless your Son for he is My Shepherd amen.
God is great, and I boust in my weakness for every trial I went through. I am so thankful to God for every breath I take, and I have many things to be thankful for.
I'm a devout, Roman Catholic woman. I attend Mass every week and generally try to live a good, holy life. But, this man has explained in a way that I've finally been about to understand what a lifetime of Catholicism has not been able to. My only hope is that all Christianity can one day find it's way back as one whole church.
A religious debate without emotions getting fired up!? WHAT!? Going to check this guy out. A well spoken Christian that seems much more down to earth, and much less dogmatic.
@12mins 2secs you said "ive been a real scumbag of a human being" 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 it takes a real ticker to stand up in front of the world and admit this publicly. 🙏🏽 Great testimony brother!
LOVE Dr.Turek.. An excellent Apologist & teacher. Always thoughtful & respectful regardless of how backwards & offensive some ppl can throw @ him. He takes some flack for "yelling" @ times, as it's mistaken for aggression & "that's how Christians are". He's from JERSEY, y'all. Also, some ppl are just that way; it's an acquired spiritual skill to not be so argumentative, having to be "right"...all the time. When u feel passionate about a topic, it'll ooze & cause insult when your views are poo pooed, friends. Just pray ceaselessly, it'll come. 😁
Devin, Your open minded attitude and description of this video is the reason I subscribed. I feel you are 100% a realist person, which is very refreshing. Don’t change a thing because you have the gift of influence. Those that have the opportunity and means to help those in need have the responsibility to do so…you are a great witness.
That young man is very intelligent, respectful and thoughtful. This is a very very powerful message and I'll be sharing it with my friends who are currently rejecting God.
You are a wonderful man,you are honest and willing to listen and see the truth in the end.I will pray for you that you will find the full truth that Jesus taught us us🙏
Something else people forget is, just because we are saved from everlasting hell that doesn’t mean we have escaped judgment. We still have to answer for sinning.
I truly appreciate the christian faith and I grew up around some very good people who swear by it. The thing I love about this nation is that people like me that are pagan can agree and even care for other faiths and ways of life without fear of persecution.
Bro! I love Dr. Turek! I first learned of him on AFR (American Family Radio) which is headquarter near my hometown. I go there fir AFR events from them to time. Actually where there to Hope Church to here him speak last summer. Fast talkin' Jersey guy. Was hilarious and threw info and numbers out that could only be rivaled by Ben Shapiro. Got to speak with him briefly afterward. Total down to earth cool every day guy. He just the same on his show and guest spots on other shows. I'm about to watch this now and I know he's gonna throw some serious heat. He's a top worldwide apologist.
I’m a Marine, I’ve met many atheist , but in the darkest hour, they have all prayed to a supreme being. I would ask” who are you praying to?” One said “ anyone listening.” I said I know who’s listening. I believe in our hearts we know there’s a force out there. I know that force. And his son. Look them up, they’re in the book.
@@iam604 I absolutely have evidence. None I can show. But I have seen evidence to the fact many times. I have no doubt that without him , we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
@@jamesclark4523 That's the usual response! I have evidence but I can't show it! Shall we start with: Do you believe that everything in the bible is true and the word of God? Do you believe that God is timeless, all loving and all knowing? If you believe that everything in the bible is true then explain Exodus 21? If you do not believe everything in the bible is true then how do you decide what is and is not true? If God is all knowing then he knows that the 'evidence' he has provided for his existence will not convince everyone. Moreover he knows that the 'evidence' he has provided will cause different interpretations, resulting in different religions, resulting in wars fought over those religions. Not to mention people believing that their God has told them to go and and kill anyone who does not believe as they do. That kind of takes care of the all loving bit? As an atheist I cannot prove that something does not exist, but I can prove that most religions can't logically be true. A powerful being may have created the universe but it is not a being with a plan, it is not a being who loves its creations! It may have 'started' the universe and no longer be around now!
@@El_Bruno7510 I have neither the time or the inclination to explain every aspect of my relationship with god or my faith in him. If you want answers then you seek god in your own life. If you do, he will reveal himself to you, if you go on looking to discredit him? Then you’ll never see anything until it’s to late. I was asked by someone who died soon after this interaction “ what if you live your entire life, doing everything that the Bible teaches. Then you die and find out it was all a bunch of crap. Won’t you have regrets?” I told him , that I only hope that I can live that way, I’m human so I will make a lot of mistakes. But for the sake of his argument, let’s say it’s true. I Will know that I lived a good life, so no I won’t have regrets. I said but in turn let me ask you “ what if you live your live, rebuking God and the teachings of the Bible , then die and find out it’s all true, who has more to loose, Me or you?” . So I ask you, who has more to loose in that scenario? Me or you.
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A lot of NATIONS had us in CAPTIVITY not only ESAU all those that devour the shall be DEVOURED enjoy your KINGDOM because your CAPTIVITY is near and after 1000 years then you will be EXTERMINATED
YAHOVAH IS NOT YESHUA, IT IS FATHER AND SON AND YOU CAN NOT SET THE SON EQUAL TO THE FATHER FOR THAT IS IDOLATRY AND DISRESPECTFULL TO BOTH YAHOVAH MY ADONAI AND YESHUA MY KING AND SAVIOR ,MY BROTHER WHO RIGHT NOW IS SITING IN HIS HUMANFORM RIGHT NEXT TO HIS SPIRITUAL FATHER..... you might not know it but besure God hates you for caling His son Him there is no place in the bible where God confesses that He is His son Yeshua
@@arkangelsdaughter3983 if you don't speak ancient HEBREW the official language of us HEBREW ISRAELITES if you are speaking the YEDISH which these FAKE JEWISH are calling Hebrew THAT IS INCORRECT 🔥📖🔥
@@arkangelsdaughter3983 our GOD of ISRAEL is YAHAWAH his son's name is YAHAWAHSHI if you're NOT of the 12 CHOSEN TRIBES of ISRAEL? if your ANCESTORS were NOT in the land of EGYPT during CAPTIVITY then you would know that this KINGDOM you have built is your HEAVEN and if you Google or read the scriptures you would know who you are and your nationality biblically see the so called white people won't reveal nor admit that our GOD YAHAWAH of ISRAEL calls then ESAU which means WASTED AWAY in which he has a future JUDGMENT i really think alot of them has read this
That young man was one of the most respectful, civil, inquisitive atheists I have seen debating the existence of God. He genuinely seemed to want to seek the truth instead of destroying his “opponent’s” point.
Atheists don't destroy your points. They just have the advantage of being the big bad wolf and you are in a house of straw.
Amen!
I pray he gave his life to the Lord afterwards
You haven't seen many debates with atheist then, because it's the theist who as a rule lie make claims they can't back ignore what said and refuse evidence and insult the atheist and take glee in the eternal torment they delusionaly believe in.
@@kimfort6116 what if your lord is man made nonsense?
Why would anyone give anything to anything without evidence?
And to me more correct when all evidence says no?
But even then personally I'd still shun your immoral warlord for all his immoral teachings.
they didn't yell or scream at each other, I was impressed by this
One of the most civil, intelligent conversations, about Faith I've ever heard. Absolutely wonderful!
I agree
that WAS good,,
I think he went from belligerent to ignorant. But at least if he's open to Grace at one point in his life there is hope for his immortal soul
Amen to that
@@MichaelDiSalvoSATandACTTutor You think the questioner went from "belligerent to ignorant"? Because I think the host's answers were grossly ignorant showing no evidence whatsoever for God's existence then asserting that as evidence! Not to mention that his immortal soul can be redeemed AFTER death when he can repent in hell - which will be the only point at which any of us will have real evidence! Belligerent means hostile and aggressive, precisely how was the questioner either of those? By questioning your beloved, totally unfounded beliefs?
as a teenager, it's difficult for me to stand true to my beliefs because I don't want to be made fun of or generate discussions, but thanks to videos like yours I am much more confident in myself and I'm even starting to understand the reason why I always come back to God. thank you so much.
- sorry for my english. 🙇🏻
God gives you strength. He will lead you through. 💖💖
Same here 🙋🏻♀️
Watch videos/read books by Frank Turek, J Warner Wallace, Lee Strobel, Greg Koukl, William Lane Craig and you should be more than confident in your faith, and you'll be better able to defend it 👍
Thanks for being honest and transparent
By the way, your English is fine!
As a Christian myself the guy asking questions asked one that I really enjoyed the surge answer to. He was also so polite! If everyone could talk/debate like this we would be so much better off💛
"I been promiscuous, I been a dirt bag....but when God came into my life, He forgave me"
I know that feeling brother.....aint nothing like it. Its like taking a jumbo jet off your shoulders, so you can walk upright again
Yeah I had the same feeling when I forgave myself for my past, was really liberating!
He needs to prove his claim that it was God, and not his own will to improve.
Amen
The best part of this is primarily due to civil discourse. I approach the subject of faith as not knowing the answer. People cannot hear the people they disagree with, while yelling and being disrespectful.
I’m not trying to be mean however in several of the speeches I see so many uneducated young people with an emotional words coming out of their mouth and it’s getting embarrassing what is wrong with young Americans that they are so bored to get up there and speak when they are so uneducated
@@Dave-rz5wl Often in today's culture. The students would shout and try to get the speech shut down. I agree with today's youth being lied to and being told what to think. I applaud the student for asking honest questions and both speaker and questioner listening to on anther. Cheers and God Bless...
If you don’t know the answer then it’s because you haven’t searched. If you believe in God then the only God that makes any logical sense is the God of the Israelites. Yahweh. You can’t logically reason with any other God.
I can't hear the words of those who defend genocide when it's committed by a divine hand.
@@ceelothatmane9421 how on earth can you logically reason with Jahovah? I've created more reasonable dieties as a pagan cult leader.
the kid had great questions, and the man presented the answers so well.
Except his answers were mutually contradictory. God might be a random natural superdimensional something, but it's also the source of morality for humans? What?? How do you jump from "uncaused cause" to "personal intelligence that cares whether you wear clothes and what they're made from"?
I thought he did great. It ultimately comes down to the fact that it doesn't matter what his answers are, atheists are not going to change their views unless God changes them. It's like any other debate. Most are pointless because people aren't going to change what they believe. God and Christianity are about faith. Everything can't be about facts and "proof"....faith is needed. Non- Christians won't ever get it unless they are saved.
Christians don't care if people put them down or agree, I know for a fact what Christ has done in my life and don't need others to agree. I do feel bad though because, in the end, everyone will be judged no matter if you believe or not. I would never push anyone else to agree with me or put others down for different views. I do love seeing peoples questions and answers though on the topic.
@Scoonie their gods aren't real. I've experienced things others have not (non Christians and some Christians) that you can not have proof or facts to show others. I know it's true and that's all that matters to me. This is why I don't debate, because I don't care for others opinions on my faith nor do I need to prove it. It just hurts me to know how many people will regret not knowing God when they die. Again, I know you don't believe it...that's your right.
How so? He was conflating manmade goods to nature and said that because we see the universe and nature, that means God did it, and because God did it, it's his god. He basically said that without providing any evidence to back the claim. Not to mention moving the goal post as to what god is.
loving your channel. we need more christians who stands up for their faith.
That's cute. Just keep it to yourself and you won't have problems with people that you have to "stand up" to.
No!
What's needed is more enlightened people to stand against Christianity and religion in general.
As for faith, well it's the worst possible way to truth proven by one little fact, billions of people use faith to find non truth and the majority must be wrong.
Is the 2 billion Muslims faith correct? Especially when they are the fastest growing religion.
Or the billions of other people in other faith all feeling there truth?
Or the 2.4 billion Christians who are shrinking and kinda always been a minority group in world population numbers and 100s of denominations all calling each other fake Christians.
@@MrTheclevercat Matthew 5:15-16 We don't light a lamp and put it under a bowl.
@@jameswright... I don't think I get your point. Could you elaborate more on why there is a need for more enlightened people to stand against Christianity and religion in general?
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Now we both know you do because what I wrote is self explanatory.
And the fact you feel the need to lie deflect and ignore proves exactly what I said and meant.
But just to stop your ignorance and denial I'll spell it out so simply a primary school child will understand.
Religion Christianity well all Abrahamic religions and religion in general are man made nonsense, all based on myths and fables with added lies and the less people believing those myths backing inequality the better and denying rights and facts the better.
What is needed is more education to show cult members the trap their in, show the lies they are told and that helps stop the harm to society.
It's secular humanists that fight for rights of women and gay and trans different ethnic groups while religion fights against.
The bible is wrong historically scientifically and morally and the more people educated in this the better everyone will be.
Liking your own comments just makes you look desperate.
While my belief in God is different than this man's, I do like how he answered. He was the confident Christian, one that doesn't feel the need to force his views on others, but to lead them to the understanding he has obtained by explaining what he believes.
I like your point this is not something that can be forced on people they have to come to that realization on their own in the end God bless you be safe
I believe differently as well and agree. He does have intelligent answers. Several of his "I don't knows" are in the scriptures though. One in particular is when he said I don't know where the dead mother is. Well, she's in the grave till she is resurrected in either the second coming of Christ or at the second resurrection of the wicked. If she were anywhere else what would be the point of those events? Right?
@@williammcleroy558 He said he does not know because he didn't know if she accepted Christ in the last moments of life. And he directly stated that as well. That's what was meant by "I don't know"
And then he said very clearly where she would be based on that unknown fact. What ever she chose in the last moments.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer Whatever you choose, dead is dead till Christ returns is what I am saying. Of course we don't know where anyone is going till then.
@@williammcleroy558 Gotcha :)
Must say, saw your channel recently, I am very impressed with your assessments and relative content! Thanks for spreading truth and perspectives!
Found the channel just a short time ago... Like two weeks... Am so stoked by Devin's love for the truth. God has truly applied his blessing upon this young man's mission.
He isn’t doing anything, he’s just reuploading other peoples content with his face at the corner of it.
@@zuckergolf4442 Then why are you here ?Go start your channel and try and draw as much audience as he has
@@Ytulipss because I’m interested in the content, I don’t care which channel slightly profits from it
@@zuckergolf4442 Then you shouldn't be critiquing cus he put in effort to get those content
Dude that was the best debate I have ever heard in my life and I’ve heard a lot in the last four years of the debates about Jesus and God and being a Christian and all that but that was the best I’ve ever seen very impressed thank you so much for sharing that and I put them in their place to God bless you young man keep up the good work it’s all for Jesus amen
That wasn't really a debate. Dude with the microphone was answering a young man's sincere questions in his search for truth. Dude with the microphone didn't prove the existence of a god.
I've never heard of Frank Turek before, thank you for putting this out there.
Devin, I feel like God just answered my 13 year old son's question through you. This is just one thing I love so much about God. Every time I've had a question, it's been answered through another soul without me even asking them the question. It is amazing how God works if you give him a chance as I did. My son came to me the other day and asked me is there only one God and how do we know that God is real. I've raised him to believe in God but I also knew in time he'd have his questions and doubts. I tried to answer him the best I could but I don't know everything. I haven't read the Bible front to back. But from what I know, I've explained to him the best I could and it's been bothering me that i couldn't give him a more clear answer. Then 💥, I wake up, and this video is on my suggestions list to watch. Now I will show him and maybe he can understand better. Thank you for what you do Devin and thank you for this video. God bless you ❤️
don't jump down my throat I only say this because I am a believer who went to Catholic school and has read the Bible front to back you really should read the Bible front to back if you're going to preach it
it gives you so many tools you can actually answer questions do it for you you'll feel better afterwards anyway more connected to God
@@noo343 I have to agree with you. Reading the Bible has allowed me to talk to people confidently and use it as a resource for lifr decisions.
I wish I would have had a father, or someone close to me to answer my questions. I got snapped at for asking questions and told “you’re not supposed to ask questions” from around age 10 forward. Now I’m 46 and still don’t understand so many things about religion, probably because I’m overthinking much of it. Your son is fortunate. I can’t imagine the relief one must feel to genuinely believe, and have the comfort of God when one passes on.
@@Hammerback0 the Lord isn't coming back for a religion or even someone that knows every word of the Bible. Even Satan knows the Bible.
The Lord Jesus is coming back for His church which is His children, His bride that is spotless, not perfect.
Yes, we are to read His living word the Bible so we can fight the good fight against the evil forces of the spirit realm of hell. Reading the Bible teaches us how to put on the whole armor of God.
I don't read the Bible as much as I should but I'm going to change that now. I'm going to start reading the Bible more and live my life for Christ and walk in and with the Holy Spirit. And when Jesus returns I will hear that trumpet loud and clear and meet my Jesus on the cloud. And everyone that gives their heart to the Lord and lives for Him the way they should will also make it in the rapture.
Ask the Holy Spirit to help you walk closer to and with the Lord and He will help you every step of the way.
@@Hammerback0 I would say that if you do not understand religion, then you understand it perfectly! It does not make any sense! There are so many contradictions and so many unanswered questions - in ALL religions. And oftentimes, if you ask those difficult questions, the only answer is "you have to have faith". Well, faith is not evidence and faith is not necessarily truth.
This was way over the questioners' heads.
It was never an issue of being sent to hell. It was always just a separation from God. He nailed it. Wish I were this eloquent.
Continuing to read scriptures on a regular basis while always praying to the Holy Spirit before reading, and then when interacting with others on topics regarding God, pray to the Holy Spirit to use you as a vessel in Jesus Holy Name, and God will give you the exact words He wants you to use. He will be eloquent through you. It is always Him, not ourselves.
But trust God, because convincing the other person is not the goal, reaching them exactly where they are, and giving them the exact words needed to touch their spirit is. And only God knows how to do that, and He needs your fiat to do so through you. That is why constant prayer to the Holy Spirit for guidance throughout one's day is so vital. When you already have that relationship with the third person of the Trinity, it is second nature to hear him within one's being when God wishes to reach others through you.
God bless you in your walk with Him.
@bastiat You clearly have not read my comment with charity in your heart. Your reply confuses me on many levels. I'm surprised that my recommendation for someone to read scriptures only after praying to the Holy Spirit has you assuming that I'm *not* suggesting reading the Bible for guidance. I'm also surprised that you assume I am specifically a Protestant Christian based on what I stated.
What did I state which is protesting against Church teaching? Is it your belief that Catholic Christians do not read scripture?
@bastiat Is it your claim that Catholics do not believe reading scriptures can aid a person in their lives?
Is it your understanding that reading scripture is not an essential part of a Catholic's relationship with their God?
It's all about going to hell and the eternal flames of hell!! Hell is not merely being without God's presence. It is eternally burning in the lake of fire forever!!!!
@bastiat I just read out loud for a patient the story of St Anthony. He was an extraordinary preacher because he meditated daily on scripture and then let the Holy Spirit speak through him by guiding his thoughts and words.
That was such a beautiful exchange. I wish we could have more discussions like that with one another. Both men were respectful both actively listened and replied. No shouting matches. Very nice
I just had to replay this again - easily the most mature discussion ever.
I'm by no means a religious person, but I liked how that guy explained things. He did a good job explaining the unexplainable.
Then you are now
@@silentghost751 not in the least.
@@NANA-lq5md how? You said he explained stuff
@@silentghost751 just because someone can come up with a good story it doesn't make it real. Reality tells me we don't have a magical being that's going to make everything alright.
@@NANA-lq5md he explained why there is a God
I do like these discussions. We need these discussions. Excellent video.
Amen, couldn't agree more! Thanks for the support Ryan
@@DevinGibson I heard a great way to look at Jesus the other day and it hadn't occurred on me till then Jesus said he must be lifted on the cross like the serpent in the desert of course referring to Moses is bronze serpent who cured the people of their snake bites that doesn't mean the snakes stop biting them it just means every time they looked to it they were cured and did not die Jesus is the same way we live in this world and the snakes also known as Sin will continue to bite us but as long as we keep looking to Jesus we will be healed and restored so I pray we all keep looking to him even when times are hard and remember never let your snake bites Fester.
God bless that young man and his friends. His eyes said a lot when he was done. His doubt cracked. I pray he and hid friends allow Christ in. He was a well spoken and thoughtful man, I think there is hope for him.
My life has been changed. I grew up with Christian life, yet swayed . I am back with Christ, thanks to you. God bless you and thank you.
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My dude! This one was so on point. The discussion was great, the argument was excellent and I also think it made the kid question why he was even an atheist.
Because there is not enough evidence to believe that there is a god.
@@arthurschamne If that were true you wouldn't be here talking about it, or watching a video refuting your point. There's no way you can explain away intelligent design. When you strap Dynamite to an inanimate object it doesn't create more life. It just destroys it. The big bang just did that on a larger scale. There's no way life accidentally just happened without any guiding hand. Haven't you ever heard of Darwin's own argument saying that if something was irreducibly complex it would disprove his theory? Well guess what, the flagellum is just that. If you remove one piece none of it works. Making it irreducibly complex. Seriously, why are you even here spreading your own misery with people you hate? Nothing you say will change anyone's mind.
@Levi Arkinstein where did Arthur say that he “hated” anyone? Take a step back. And everything your saying is not true. Strapping dynamite to an inanimate object is not even remotely the same thing. You talk about the complexities of the universe and then compare it to the most basic shit you can think of.. HUH?!! Also Arthur has a point. It’s just his opinion of course but “intelligent design” is not relative to anything that we can detect. Religion from all over the world is faith based.
@@LeviTheMagi there is no significant evidence that suggest that life was intelligently designed, if an engineer would design a car as poorly as the life on our planet they would be fired instantly. There is no intelligence in the design of life. Also, how am I spreading misery and I don't hate anyone, I am trying to educate people so they are not deceived into believing the lie of religion
I am atheist i will never question why. I question how anyone believes the bullshit the bible has to say ..
Thank you for covering Christian apologetics! I actually got to meet Frank in person! He’s taller than I thought!
Any others you would suggest we dive into on the channel? Always open to suggestions! Thanks for the support Liz💪🏼
@@DevinGibson yes I love William lane Craig, John Lennox, CS Lewis, and Ravi Zacharias ! I also like Justin peters!
@@DevinGibson Christopher Hitchens.
@@DevinGibson William Lane Craig, Voddie Baucham, John Lennox all good Christian mentors.
@@DevinGibson Charles Spurgeon
I'm a member of the LDS Church. I like Mr. Tureks presentation. I just wanted to say, and this goes to accepting/rejecting God and the concept of hell, that he is already the light and life of the world. We think we're satisfied with everything and don't need God. But all of which we are most satisfied, as far as the goodness of living, is made so by God. So if we fully reject him, then we are left totally bereft and comfortless. That's all. Carry on. Oh and thanks Devin for saying so much more than Amen.
Brother I am so blessed and happy I found your channel. Please pray for me I am a saved Christian and I am going through a lot of hard times right now. God bless you
I love how he explained this.
Dr. Frank Turek is one of my absolute speakers. I love his sense of humour and how he keeps calm. I've listened to him and watched several of videos. Along with him, I also enjoy Dr. John Lennox, Dr. William Lane Craig, Dr. James White and Dr. David Wood as well. They are good speakers in their respective areas of study of the Christian faith.
ok, let's do some easy counters to Frank Turek's claims:
1.) justification of morality: Aetheist justification of morality for things (such as 'why not to murder innocent people..') is quite simple. It is justified NOT to murder someone by a moral standard in that a very minute percent of people would believe it's okay for someone to murder them (for any given reason). That is all the justification needed to NOT do something. Justification TO do something has a higher requirement for morality.
2.) countering his arguments on S.U.R.G.E: S- Second Law of Thermo Dynamics: claim is it must first be wound up for things to be running down- See Big Bang Theory... the universe WAS wound up, to the point of 'detonation'. U- Universe is expanding: the 'Universe' had a beginning (a single point). This is wrong, the *physical* universe *we* live in began at a single point, this single point has been posited as being repeatedly growing, collapsing and re-expanding, thus the 'Universe' must always exist to create the collapsed point that expands into the universe *we* know now. R- Radiation afterglow: actually called the CMBR, yes, it is the 'smoking gun' for the big bang theory... as stated earlier, NO, the big bang does NOT necessitate an entity to 'create'. G- Great Galaxy seeds: ok, he just stated this as 'a reason' but says nothing as to WHY. E- Einsteins Theory of Corelativity: again... see the counter for "U", same argument applies.
each point in S.U.R.G.E. he claims points to the universe NOT being the "uncaused first cause". This is only the case if you believe the origin of the Big Bang of *our* 'current' universe was created rather than part of a natural cycle of collapse and expansion... i.e. *our universe* is NOT the first 'universe' to exist. he then goes on to say that 'beyond the universe' is spaceless, timeless and immaterial. also WRONG. There is a difference between the 'universe' (all of existence) and the 'physical/observable universe'. The latter is expanding, the former has always been and can be infinitely expanded into. (Timeless = No beginning) is also WRONG. Something that is "timeless" *must have* existed before the presence of gravity and speed (the two things that are noted as being what allows time to move at the pace it does), in the cyclical view of the Big Bang I keep referencing this can ONLY possibly happen at the instance of each individual 'Big Bang', at any other point you have either the intense gravity of the universe collapsing (to become the next big bang) or the gravity of the matter/energy of the remnants of the big bang. This makes the Big Bang itself timeless, and thus the 'uncaused first cause' of existence.
3.) here the argument presented is poorly made. The actual argument is closer to Pascal's Wager (please google it first then continue), with one key difference. if we assume that God exists, and that we must worship/follow him to enter heaven... why would we believe/worship in an entity that has CLEARLY (in his own holy book(s)) done so many evil, immoral, unforgivable acts upon our species, just to avoid hell, OR to enter what God considers heaven (NOT what WE consider heaven). Now, as to Frank's response... "you have two paths, either you will be with him or you will not be with him..." This is one of the key points in God being Evil and Unforgivable. If you don't follow him, he will not force you to... BUT he *will* force you into Hellish damnation for NOT following him. By FORCING the punishment of hell for NOT believing in him *IS* his way of forcing people to follow him. It is literally "Do what I say, or I will hurt you in unimaginable ways". Frank even declares this as a "confinement". He gives the scenario of asking the women if they ever had a man pursue them (for full example watch the video around the 8 minute mark) on the basis that the man who tries to force you into loving him is immoral, while the one who asks you to freely return his love is moral. Well, if a man told a woman "you may choose to love me or not, but if you choose not to love me you will be confined to a location for all eternity..." would that not be considered an attempt to force through coercion under threat? Oh, and the '...' part? that's the (where you will be punished) part is left unspoken, which makes it even WORSE.
God doesn't force Heaven or Hell. He gave us free will. If you go to Hell it's your own choosing. If a person is atheist I guess it shouldn't concern them either way. If they don't believe in Heaven then pretty sure they don't believe in He'll. So what's the problem other than it's sad to me when a person can look all around us and see all the beauty God blessed us with and deny him.
@@kathystoneburner4947 the belief that 'God' doesn't force people to go to hell is an example of ignorance. According to Biblical teachings, the Holy Word of 'God', if you do not believe, follow him, AND ask (through Jesus Christ) for forgiveness of your sins, you are not allowed to enter Heaven. As Heaven and Hell are the only two Biblical outcomes for an afterlife, by not allowing those who do not follow (etc.) into Heaven, he *IS* forcing them to go to Hell. This is why the Roman Catholics added the concept of Purgatory so that there would be a 3rd possibility for those who were not evil, but didn't follow (etc.) 'God'. Purgatory has no bearing on most Christian faiths though, and in the rare instance it is mentioned in a non-Catholic sect, it is the waiting area before judgement of whether or not you are worthy of entering Heaven... as in "you're not worthy, go to Hell (the only other possible place to go)". So no, free will is countered by this binary afterlife in which you have no choice simply by not following (etc.) 'God'.
Your rebuttal to SURGE isn't a rebuttal of Frank. This is taught theory in secular institutions which is why he uses it because he feels it is what rational atheists believe.
@@decidethought8802 Hell isn't a location like Cleveland. It is a dimension without God's presence. People who have taken psychedelics will tell you about other dimensions. Scientists who study them have tentative conclusions that subjects are really going somewhere. Why those dimensions suck is because it's filled with entities that live for themselves. It's why the US is now a shithole of consumerism.
Definitely some of the most awesome words I've ever heard uttered on the internet. I pray that Carter & many of young lives were impacked by these words to turn their lives over to Jesus. Thank you so much for sharing. Now for me to carry on your work & share to everyone I know.
Frank is the best at explaining the existence of God I love his metaphors and reasons
Good metaphors and reasons yet no logic
@@joshjohnson2600 The logical theist is subjective the logical atheist is objective. The theist is philosophical the atheist is scientific. For me, there may be a Creator but there has thus far been no evidence that does not form part of a circular argument to suggest that a creator is true.
@@joshjohnson2600 Life makes perfect sense to me, to look for an answer as to "why" is exactly the same as to look for "how" - to me. Why does there have to be a supernatural master plan for "why"? Why can the answer to "why" not simply be 'that that is what is bound to happen as things evolve'? Science has shown that it is possible to create the building blocks of life from the materials of the Universe. If God (whichever one you chose) created life, why did it not appear immediately? Why wait 13.7 billion years of nothing much happening? Those, and far too many more, are the "why" questions that make me an Atheist.
What's the name of franks Chanel, or his full names?
@@joshjohnson2600 The more scientists discover, the more they uncover how much we actually can't explain. We are constantly thinking "this is the smallest building block of life" only to discover a new layer. Spontaneous Generation> egg and sperm> cells> proteins> peptides> amino acids> atoms> nucleus> electrons> quarks [smallest thing we know of now]. Even in the definition of quarks they say "we can't break it down any further AS OF NOW"
Eric Metaxas has some excellent podcasts about it. I think YT canceled his channel.
Devin, I dig your perspective and the respectful way you communicate your views regarding the subject matter/issues that affect us all in society and the way your work(active contemplation/reflection) attempts to bring about more patience, temperance, and moderation to help us all better understand each other, and the chaotic dysfunction we all face in the world at this unprecedented moment in time. The videos/content you choose to explore in your segments are commendable as well. The work, time, and energy that you have invested of yourself is a worthy, and admirable contribution to the world. In your own unique way, in small simple steps, you are helping to share the Light of the Lord within the darkness surrounding us in this world. Keep doing your thing brother, because it matters! Continue to keep it real, keep sharing the Good News, keep interconnecting those personal links of spirituality, the word, and the fallibility we all face in our struggle with sin. No one knows the hour,…right?!? God Bless you, and your family. Take care brother.
Frank has always impressed me…so intelligent, well-studied and gentle in his delivery and in how he communicates with those who challenge him. I pray blessings over him and his ministry and you too Devin
I have been Born Again since August 1984 and this speaker knock it out of the park! So precise love and fact and Wisdom! Praise Jesus and our Father God! Glory!
What a wonderful talk! I'll have to look up this obviously intensely intelligent man. Thanks Devin.
@bastiat - Agree. I've listened to a few of his other talks since then. They are very interesting!
Same here. I really needed to hear this man's words.
I love your content Devin, glad i found you!😀
Thank you Amanda, appreciate you sis!!🙏
I love Frank Turek, he makes things very digestible.
The young man who asked questions was also greatly appreciated for his curiosity and his respectful manner.
I don’t have to agree with debaters but I always appreciate respectful questions and answers and good dialogue.
Love how peaceful and respectful these discussions were
This was very interesting, I like this video. Thanks for this video. As a Christian I firmly believe in not pushing your beliefs on anyone and this video shows how you can have a reasonable debate or simply have an informal discussion that is about pure facts.
How do you reconcile that Jesus told us to go into all nations, and proclaim the good news? We can have that reasonable debate with any reasonable person also, you know? If a person staunchly refuses, of course that's on them, and we are not obligated to persist.
@@johnboehmer6683 I think he was talking about groups like Jehovah's witnesses, that literally go door to door and to share their beliefs. That is forcing beliefs on people. I'm sure if someone came up to Matt and asked him what it is he believes and why, he would not have an issue talking about it. I live in Japan where less than 1% of the population are Christian, it's difficult to talk about Christianity and Jesus because they are very tradition focused and many of these traditions are based in Buddhism and Shinto. Also a lot of cults give religion a bad name, so I can see where Matt is coming from.
@@todda2888 Hey Todd, let me ask you the same thing, how do you reconcile what Jesus said? He didn't say "tell them about me if they ask", he clearly said to take the message to them. This, by the way, is not "forcing beliefs" on people, not sure how you could have said that. I even went out of my way to address that already. This edict from our Lord is crucial to the salvation of all. No one gets saved if no one ever did this.
@@johnboehmer6683 I am by no means saying not to get out there and spread the good word, simply pointing out people have different ways to address evangelism. There are people I know for a fact that would straight up reject me and what I am saying if I tried to just go talk to them about Jesus. You have you know your audience, for those people that are atheist or at the least agnostic, I do as Jesus did, show them I still care about them, show them love and compassion, and try to live my life the best I can and as you said, if they staunchly refuse then I just let my actions speak for me and let the spirit work on their heart. I can only do so much....as for living in Japan and spreading the word , it's extremely difficult with a language barrier and an entire nation that has a negative view of organized religion due to cults and other terrible events that happened in the past. To become a Christian here is basically turning your back on your families traditions and they treat you like you are "brain washed". Difficult for sure
No one can make you believe anything. When I was an atheist I hated Christians who demanded that I believe what they believe but had an NO answers to my questions.
I agree, that was so moving. Everyone knows deep down inside themselves the difference between evil and God. It's a choice. What you take in , hearing and seeing affects the heart. Everything can be done in Jesus name, thanks Everyone.
This was amazing. I love how he presented the Gospel to this young man. He literally could not say anything else. GOD is so GOOD HalleluYah
This is the best "argument" I have ever heard regarding God vs. Atheist. This needs to be shared out to the masses. Thank you Devin for sharing this. This post has definitely helped me to be better prepared to answer those tough questions. Thank you again!!!!!!
Wow really? Utter nonsense and laughable answers from Turek more like!
I enjoyed this perspective as a (poorly practicing) Christian who has been asked questions like these for years.
This also makes me curious to see your reaction, or at least a short review of the Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate.
I really disliked that debate, Ken is great at talking to people. But he isn't good at debating. Bill wins that one in terms of debating. Mind you he is wrong. I reccomend kent hovind
It all comes down to faith. Something sadly many have lost. I pray everyday those in need have their hearts enlightened once again by it🙏❤🥰
You pray for that? Not world peace, or no hunger throughout the world or illness which is more important? Wow!
@@iam604 Are you so single-minded you think one can only pray for one goal???? WOW!!!!!
Funny how a loss of faith comes with higher educational standards and the availability of information so people can find out more for themselves! Makes it very difficult to peddle nonsensical beliefs.
There is something about attributing all things that are currently unexplainable to the human mind, to an entity that is also unexplainable, leaving a hugh margin of doubt in the conversation.. Such is the circle of religion....
I love a good moral debate. I don’t know if god exists. I think humans have distorted and misinterpreted for malicious reasons the “word” of god and have used it to control the masses. I believe if god does exist, he does not like what we have done with his work.
MANY human beings HAVE distorted and misinterpreted the Bible to serve their own purposes. Simply because PEOPLE do what people do doesn't make the proper interpretation wrong.
@@jamiemiller9268 but the Bible is the “word” of god. If men wrote the Bible and men are flawed, then the Bible is flawed. And the Bible can’t be used to reference or be a source to help claim the Bible is true. Third party sources only. Whose to say the men who wrote the Bible didn’t change what god said to fit their narrative? The Old Testament and New Testament are two completely different books separated by centuries and they stuffed them together. You can thank the Romans for this mess. Shouldn’t have adopted Christianity for the poor to believe in while the elites still believed in their polytheistic religions and controlled the masses with it.
@@L33Reacts Yes, the Bible is the word of God, AND the Bible has been interpreted and reinterpreted and reinterpreted, for centuries, to suit man's purposes. But, if you listen to God, through the Holy Spirit, NOT MAN, you WILL know the truth.
I think that kid, Carter, was moved at the end. I hope the Holy Spirit works in his life.
The young man asking the questions is truly searching for real truth.....So we pray for this young man .....Amen ❤
Agreed. I do hope he sees through Turek's lies and sticks with his current evidential truth.
My mans, thank you for sharing this mini debate. Over the past decade, I have gone from atheist to agnostic to now reading the Bible regularly but still having some hang ups on the Christian faith. The hang ups are like this kid’s hang ups, logical but probably uninformed. This was a great clip that filled in some mini gaps already but I am more grateful for the exposure to Frank Turek. I am so excited watch more of his content. Thank you for pointing me in his direction. Keep doing what you do, my friend 🙏
This was the best explanation of who GOD REALLY is that I have ever heard!! Thanx again for your videos brother!!! God bless you and your family! Please keep these coming!!!!
You mean the god that puts people in hell for not believing in someone, whose existence is unprovable.
@@zuckergolf4442 Not just unprovable but also entirely unnecessary.
Don’t bother with the other two in this section. You’re not gonna change their minds because they’re already in troll mode. I could sit here and give proof and they’d just write it off because they’re gonna believe what they’re gonna believe regardless what anyone says. May not be very Christian like of me to say that but I’m not gonna waste my time.
@@casper6741 They have a point, God is by all accounts of religious necessity, unprovable. That's because all religions require faith and the worshipping of Stone age texts to believe. God also throws away people into Hell who don't believe in him. I don't know if it was God or Jesus that said this, but one of them said "if you're not with me than your against me". There's no grey area.
Wow! I LOVED his breakdown of a humans relationship with God and his inclusion of science.
That guy didn't go from zero to Christian. He asked questions and listened to the answers.
Frank Turek that's one of the best apologetist in Christianity.
A master teacher will find ways to agree. I love how he recognized God in the aethist's creation theory
Honestly, all Christians should learn how God fits into the more complicated bigger pictures. Then the Atheist's would not dominate our institutions of learning.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer But you don't have to prove your case, right?
@@isaachunt7107 Says who? I actually believe differently. I believe Christians should lean into science and expose the other side of those debates. There is a lot of bad science that goes unchallenged and people think it's solved when it never was because Christians shy away from the debate
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer You can give me one tangible piece of evidence for the existence of god then, right?
@@isaachunt7107 watch the video, the world itself is proof.
The thing with me is that I’m not an Atheist. I’m not the type that doesn’t believe in God. I’m the type that isn’t sure whether or not God Exists. I hope God does exists, but whether he/she does isn’t going to be the factor that makes me do good. The fact that it’s the right thing to do is.
What do you think about the point of said morality simply being a preference then?
I love the way you put that. Watching a tiny seed grow into a mighty tree is how I know God exists. Also how everything in nature has a purpose. Nature biodegrades, vultures eat carcasses, there are beneficial bugs that eat pests. Plants that die put nutrients back in soil. I love nature. When i have a bad day and all of a sudden i see a beautiful eagle fly, my soul knows its Gods way of letting me know its ok. Everything man has invented was already created by God naturally. The food chain is complex but amazing. The fact that the bible written 2,000 years ago and is still meaningful is amazing. God bless you, you sound like a great person.(i mean no offense to anyone who isnt sure or doesnt believe) God brings me completeness and i want to share the joy. Im not good at telling ppl about him.(im shy) but i really strive to get better at it.
Do you believe that because you are a good person and you do the right thing that your ultimate reward will be Heaven when you die? FYI I'm not asking as a basis of fighting with a stranger on the internet. I'm a knowledge seeker by nature. I love finding out what and why people differ from me.
He exists ! Line your live with the knowledge of such Love for you!
@@kylenewberry2598 It's not a preference. It's an evolutionary strategy.
“He takes there unbelief & turn it upside down”❤️🔥
No he does not! He answers questions with absolute rubbish!
He Just reminded me why I love God so much... I feel saved all over again, I got chills
I’m not an atheist bc i believe in a higher power but I’m not a Christian by any means and I love your channel. I must say this argument for the atheist part was terrible. This guys teachings still has a-lot of wholes in it. I would love to debate with a Christian. Not to change minds but for a better understanding. That young man wasn’t versed enough for this debate
A born again Christian with understanding won't debate with you. Because God tells us not to...
Salvation is by grace through faith.
If a person chooses not to believe the gospel, we don't force, or try to convince, we LOVE you and PRAY for you.🙏♥️ in JESUS Name.... and keep going...that's it.
The argument *against* the atheist part was full of holes. Downright nonsensical. Indeed, his two answers contradicted each other. For example, if "god" might be a more complex dimension spitting off simpler universes, why would it have anything to do with human morality?
Great presentation. Thanks for posting it! The question I have considered often about hell/sheol is that 1) It's separation from God. If it's being cast into outer darkness (away from God's light), you instantly know you are moving into a bad situation. So you either a) Commit to the author and provider of all that is "good" or b) Reject God including the concept of God and assume the responsibility for that rejection.
2)Separation from God in hell is not an alternate reality where you get anything or everything you desire, but the separation you achieve and reap what you sow for that rejection of God. The bible suggests there is a thirst un-satiated in hell. Any thirst, no matter how small would be a torment after a length of time. So, as a conclusion... must God reward those who reject Him? Ludicrous. And if God is the creator, then he has created all good things and a separation from that God (source of all good things) would be an eternal torment in and of itself, so I need not add anything to hell for it to be an exercise worth avoiding. Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand (mt 3:2) Love the Lord your God with all... and the second is "like" it "to love your neighbor as yourself".
Kudos to that young man who came across not only with intelligence but with maturity and the response was spot on
One of the best debates I've ever heard. And shout out to that young man for being respectful and willing to have that conversation.
I’m already a Christian. However this video LITERALLY had me in an aha moment against myself. Thank you!
love this channel! God bless you for staying true to the Bible 👏🏼🤗💕
This Bro is smooth and accurate in his presentation. Frank, where have you been? Love the conversation.
This is how people should debate. Such respect for both sides. Nicely done.
That was awesome. Amen
THIS was exactly what every atheist needs to hear! Thank You for finding this video, I know more now how to speak to them.
Yeah...Frank Turek is not convincing to me as an atheist. He's intellectually dishonest and his arguments are completely full of logical fallacies.
@@thedude0000
I was just looking to find his debates. If you know where they are, PLEASE drop me a link. For me, this is an important topic. Many of my friends are atheist & even they don't always know why. The Creator vs no Creator is the weeds we both get stuck in. I believe in Creation, & think Science backs this up. Thanks so much!
@@dragonslayer7587 Well, we can agree to disagree regarding science backing up a god existing.
In fact, science's domain is the natural world and given that most people define god as supernatural, I'm not exactly sure how you think science backs it up.
@@thedude0000
The Bible doesn't tell us how God created the universe, only that HE did. The science behind the 'Bang' theory is as far as I {NOT being a Space scientist} can tell, works & is proven, as far as it can be. As for God, I know you don't believe, but I definitely do. God reveals himself in so many ways to me, I can't believe it's all coincidence. It doesn't mean I need to force you to believe... You seem to be a well educated adult, and have the same choices I have. I'm not put on earth to change anyone. I only know for a fact in my heart of hearts, I was Created by God, and I'm important enough to have been created for a reason. I'm in the last chapter of my life, not the first... I've seen a bunch in last 64yrs. Especially all the archaeological findings that keep providing proof of the Bible stories, {I had faith in before}, as fact. I hope all people have the heart to agree to disagree, however, those of us who do believe, don't want anyone in Hell. It's the reason we are passionate about speaking of God. It's normally done out of love, not hate. Those who push you, probably aren't doing it out of love, but being 'right'... That's NOT God, that's the DARK Satanic & I can't be part of that.
@@dragonslayer7587 _The Bible doesn't tell us how God created the universe, only that HE did_
No offense, but you need to demonstrate the Christian God exist before quoting from the Bible.
_The science behind the 'Bang' theory_
Understand that the Big Bang Theory starts with a singularity. It does not discuss or explain how the singularity was there nor what happen prior to the singularity.
Again, it does not lend it's self to a god.
Some people will go to Limbo
not Hell. I remember when I was learning my catechism
and the very first question and
answer in my book was, "Why did God create us?" "So we can know, love and serve Him on Earth and be happy with Him forever in Heaven." 🙂
I'll keep my faith, have my prayers answered and know I'll be alright in the end. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen!
Always love the gospel preaching Bro. Your getting good at it . Praise God. Frank turek is great have a look at Dr Greg bahnsen and sye ten bruggencate who teach apologetics
Man, I appreciate that!! Just doing whatever the Good Lord allows me to do on this platform to share the Gospel. I'll definitely have to look into Greg as well💪🏼
Hey man would love to see your reaction/opinion on William lane Craig! One of, if not the most formidable Christian apologist and philosopher. He debates the origins of the universe and the existence of God and runs intellectual circles around some of the leading atheists. On top of all that, his faith is genuine and he absolutely glows with the light of God. Cheers
Definitely know of Mr Craig! Shoot me a video you'd like to see a reaction too via email please: devin@devgibson.com
@@DevinGibson oh ok will do 🫡
That's correct. He will leave you alone. When you're sick, he won't be there. When you're in physical pain, he won't be there. When you're in trouble, he won't be there. But yet he loves you.
I loved the "conversation* it was refreshing to hear a civil debate!🙏🙏🙏
It's so hilarious to listen to someone talk about the big bang and astronomy as part of their argument for a deity that they allege created the heavens and the Earth 6000 years ago. I guess we're supposed to ignore all those Stars 50 billion light years away whose light took 50 billion years to get here.
Devin thank you for doing videos like this as well as political. When I think about how wise God is blows my mind. He put in our DNA to do right, but in the flesh is no good thing, and therefore He gave us His Holy Spirit. I honestly believe that atheists believe in God, but have deceived themselves that there isn't a God. It's says in other words, we have no excuse (Rom 1:20) because even unbelievers are simply suppressing the knowledge of God (Rom 1:18) and know that He exists.
Spot on brother!! Couldn't agree with you more. On another note, thank you for the love on my videos and I pray for nothing but peace and happiness in abundance for you and yours🙏🏼💪🏼
@@DevinGibson wow you actually respond to your subs that show humbleness 💪💪💪
I can't speak for all atheists but no, I dismiss the claim there is a "god". This has always been the case. The vast majority of people in the UK aren't religious, I only know one religious person (she's old, though and not British).
how could a "loving" or fair god ever send his own kind to etenral damnation?
@@muzak913 He doesn't send anyone to damnation that's a choice. God isn't going to force anyone to be with Him who doesn't want to be. If God forced someone to be with Him then they will be a hostage. God is going to accept those who accept them. Would you allow an unapologetic enemy live with you? Probably not but doesn't mean you hate them but means you guess will never have peace.
MAN WOW ! This man Frank Turek explained that so perfectly I just loved it ! I am a Christian warrior myself and I have had debates with folks before about the big bang and just wish I would of had Frank's knowledge because like you said Devon my man he turned that atheist to god in 5 min with his beautiful explanation ! love your channel brother !
IT'S CALLED FAITH Love you my Father God amen and God Bless you too.
Just heard a great song sung by the Tunner family Band Gospel., and so much more the name of the song was
" When Jesus was on the Cross, he was thinking of me." Ever think about all the sinners
the sin Jesus took for us
went to Sweet Jesus that day those before and those during and all those that came after God Bless your Son for he is My Shepherd amen.
#Tunerfamilybamd
God is great, and I boust in my weakness for every trial I went through. I am so thankful to God for every breath I take, and I have many things to be thankful for.
I'm a devout, Roman Catholic woman. I attend Mass every week and generally try to live a good, holy life. But, this man has explained in a way that I've finally been about to understand what a lifetime of Catholicism has not been able to. My only hope is that all Christianity can one day find it's way back as one whole church.
And what about all the other religions that claim they have the one and only truth?
A religious debate without emotions getting fired up!? WHAT!? Going to check this guy out. A well spoken Christian that seems much more down to earth, and much less dogmatic.
God exists, no one created Him & no one can destroy Him!!🙌hands down
And your evidence for that as opposed to all other Gods whose believers say exactly the same thing?
And no response as usual!
@12mins 2secs you said "ive been a real scumbag of a human being" 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 it takes a real ticker to stand up in front of the world and admit this publicly. 🙏🏽 Great testimony brother!
LOVE Dr.Turek.. An excellent Apologist & teacher. Always thoughtful & respectful regardless of how backwards & offensive some ppl can throw @ him. He takes some flack for "yelling" @ times, as it's mistaken for aggression & "that's how Christians are". He's from JERSEY, y'all. Also, some ppl are just that way; it's an acquired spiritual skill to not be so argumentative, having to be "right"...all the time. When u feel passionate about a topic, it'll ooze & cause insult when your views are poo pooed, friends. Just pray ceaselessly, it'll come. 😁
Great job Devin! Love the way you are standing up for the only way!!
Absolutely loved it as a scientist and a Christian 💯💜💜💜💜💜💜
A scientist. What is your science?
Just got back from my cousins funeral, he was shot a couple weeks ago. Thanks for this video, really needed it today.
Loved this. So many times I get asked how I can be a Christian and still work in a science field... how do I reconcile that? Here it is.. mic drop.🙂
Frank Turek treats people with such respect.
Devin,
Your open minded attitude and description of this video is the reason I subscribed. I feel you are 100% a realist person, which is very refreshing. Don’t change a thing because you have the gift of influence.
Those that have the opportunity and means to help those in need have the responsibility to do so…you are a great witness.
That young man is very intelligent, respectful and thoughtful.
This is a very very powerful message and I'll be sharing it with my friends who are currently rejecting God.
Good, they may point out to you how weak Turek's responses were!
You are a wonderful man,you are honest and willing to listen and see the truth in the end.I will pray for you that you will find the full truth that Jesus taught us us🙏
This video right here gained my subscription. Continue to speak the truth brother. God Bless you!!
Something else people forget is, just because we are saved from everlasting hell that doesn’t mean we have escaped judgment. We still have to answer for sinning.
I truly appreciate the christian faith and I grew up around some very good people who swear by it. The thing I love about this nation is that people like me that are pagan can agree and even care for other faiths and ways of life without fear of persecution.
Very good explanations and I appreciate this kid not being rude but asked these questions respectfully.
Keep sharing THE Gospel, brother. Blessings.
Bro! I love Dr. Turek! I first learned of him on AFR (American Family Radio) which is headquarter near my hometown. I go there fir AFR events from them to time. Actually where there to Hope Church to here him speak last summer. Fast talkin' Jersey guy. Was hilarious and threw info and numbers out that could only be rivaled by Ben Shapiro. Got to speak with him briefly afterward. Total down to earth cool every day guy. He just the same on his show and guest spots on other shows. I'm about to watch this now and I know he's gonna throw some serious heat. He's a top worldwide apologist.
Both Devin Gibson & Mr. Turek spoke very logically and made sense all the way, very interesting.
You weren't noticing the avoidance from Turek then? And the pursuit of the woman argument was fine with you? You didn't find that creepy?
I’m a Marine, I’ve met many atheist , but in the darkest hour, they have all prayed to a supreme being. I would ask” who are you praying to?” One said “ anyone listening.” I said I know who’s listening. I believe in our hearts we know there’s a force out there. I know that force. And his son. Look them up, they’re in the book.
It's human nature to pray when in need. That's why people believe in a God. Doesn't make it true though!
That’s about the only place you will find those characters Jarhead. Unless you have evidence otherwise?
@@iam604 I absolutely have evidence. None I can show. But I have seen evidence to the fact many times. I have no doubt that without him , we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
@@jamesclark4523 That's the usual response! I have evidence but I can't show it! Shall we start with: Do you believe that everything in the bible is true and the word of God? Do you believe that God is timeless, all loving and all knowing?
If you believe that everything in the bible is true then explain Exodus 21?
If you do not believe everything in the bible is true then how do you decide what is and is not true?
If God is all knowing then he knows that the 'evidence' he has provided for his existence will not convince everyone. Moreover he knows that the 'evidence' he has provided will cause different interpretations, resulting in different religions, resulting in wars fought over those religions. Not to mention people believing that their God has told them to go and and kill anyone who does not believe as they do. That kind of takes care of the all loving bit?
As an atheist I cannot prove that something does not exist, but I can prove that most religions can't logically be true.
A powerful being may have created the universe but it is not a being with a plan, it is not a being who loves its creations! It may have 'started' the universe and no longer be around now!
@@El_Bruno7510 I have neither the time or the inclination to explain every aspect of my relationship with god or my faith in him. If you want answers then you seek god in your own life. If you do, he will reveal himself to you, if you go on looking to discredit him? Then you’ll never see anything until it’s to late. I was asked by someone who died soon after this interaction “ what if you live your entire life, doing everything that the Bible teaches. Then you die and find out it was all a bunch of crap. Won’t you have regrets?” I told him , that I only hope that I can live that way, I’m human so I will make a lot of mistakes. But for the sake of his argument, let’s say it’s true. I Will know that I lived a good life, so no I won’t have regrets. I said but in turn let me ask you “ what if you live your live, rebuking God and the teachings of the Bible , then die and find out it’s all true, who has more to loose, Me or you?” .
So I ask you, who has more to loose in that scenario? Me or you.
one of the best short simple straight to the point vids Ive seen in a while on the topic
Brought a tear to my eye. Bravo