I bought the mini for bass, and I love it. It does everything I need for both live and studio uses. No one pedal will do everything, and that's including a multi-effects pedal or a cab/amp simulator. It's simply a tool, and it should be used along with other tools in setup to achieve the sound and playability that you want.
owner of one here , i play hi gain and clean ambient things , sounds fantastic live and recording , bought the extra ampero foot switch to turn off delays and verbs live and i love that i can use that with the mini. Ive been trying to find things to nag me about this unit but so far none. I love the cost and the quality and form factor as i do not want to lug around such heavy equipment anymore. love you Taylor !!
I watch you since 4 years and I told you once that I dont understand why your channel have that number of subscribe if your quality is so good, im brasilian and I can translate your videos if you want… love your job ❤
as a Ampero Mini user, i shocked how your adjustment on Mini against those 2, is incredible. Mini has more open sounding compare to others. Lol. Im about to sell my Mini earlier, but now i will keep it though. Great video as usual, Taylor. Thank you
I'm on a budget, that's why I ordered the Ampero Mini for 200€ a few days ago. Tested a Valeton GP-200 a few months ago, but wasn't satisfied with the distorted sounds.
@@diddymies In the long run, I must admit, that I didn't succeed in dialing in many tones, that I really like over a longer period of time. I started playing my Nux MP2 stick again, where I have some high gain tones I actually like better. Maybe the Ampero needs third party IRs, that's what I heard many people say, but I didn't install any so far. Atm, I still like to use it as it is with bass though.
Your comment about mic position is correct. A speaker is a circle (99%) of the time. A line from the center to the edge and distance away from the cone is all you need. The Y axis on a circle (up and down) makes no sense. As if you spin the circle the X axis is all you need. I tried explaining this to Hotone years ago, finally it sunk in.
I guess it makes sense for 4 speakers, you can put your mic in one corner delaying the sound of the opposite corner speaker. What do you think about it? I saw this mic config with real cabinets.
@@BrunoidGames Draw a circle. Put a mark anywhere on the circle. Spin the circle while holding a pen to your mark. You have just drawn another circle. You can put a mic anywhere on that new circle and it will sound the same. Draw a straight line from the center to your mark. Spin the circle so that the line is horizontal. That is all you need to position a mic, the x-axis. Now you need the z-access to get the distance from the cone. That is it. I don't get what you are saying about delays and 4 speakers. Cabs are miced up on one speaker no matter how many speakers are in the cab.
@@tiomkinnyborg2289 The further away from the speaker, the greater the sound delay from that speaker. If you place the mic in the bottom left corner, for example, you will have a greater distance from the speaker in the opposite corner. These milliseconds of difference will make up the sound. Sorry if I'm not clear.. I'm not a native english speaker. Thanks for your advice.
@@BrunoidGames Ah, I get what you mean. You are correct. Your English is as good as everyone else's. I just listen to the sound. If it sounds good then it is good. My original point was Hotone made a needlessly complex method of virtual mic placement. The new models have fixed that.
@@tiomkinnyborg2289 you're right, man. There's no need to over complicate digital gear. I'm looking for a Tone X companion and this one sounds nice. I will check MG 30 too.
Interesting. The savage mkii seems to be the darkest and thickest, with the stomp 2 having a mid boost, and then the mini not only having that same mid boost as the 2, but also less low end. I wonder if that's a product of (I set the mids to 50%/12o'clock on every source) the difference being that 50%/12o'clock on every source is slightly different? As far as characteristics, it does sound like they're both doing great jobs at emulating the real thing though, so it basically just comes down to budget, I/O, and the intuitiveness (or lack thereof) of the UI at this point. Sick!
I’ve gone a bunch of different ways with this, but what I do these days is just dial it in the best I can. Especially in this situation since I know the amp they are emulating pretty well. The way you described the differences is true to each unit IME
Just bought the Mini for $180 shipped. I think for a total beginner like me, the II Stomp's signal path and other options would confuse me more so than the Mini and at more than twice the cost for things that I prob won't even need in the foreseeable future when learning guitar. And at $180 the effects and ease of use is quite justified for the cost.
You really can't go wrong with any of these. So many possibilities for different kinds of players. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we're living in the golden age of guitar gear. But personally, I think 3 footswitches is the fewest amount I'd want out of something like this.
Ive had both the original ampero and now the stomp 2. The celestion IR'S included in the stomp 2 really make the unit sound more high def, its something you have to hear in person.
Hi there! Thanx for the vid. It's very important what you said about the EQ. You're right: it doesn't behave like a regular EQ on a real amp. It sounds, well, digital
Awesome comparison, Taylor. 😎🤘🏻🎸 I’ve always heard a lot of good things about the hotone ampero and these multi-effects processors sound pretty killer.
Er, you dont need an 'extra' adapter for a stereo sound with the Mini as it comes in the box... Maybe you didnt go any further than the Mini but under it is a TRS Y Splitter cable for your stereo output.
I have the sonicake matribox and its great. Was thinking about getting the ampero mini to go along side it, but i might wait and get the valeton gp200Lt instead. Not sure which one to get tho🤔
I got my Ampero Mini today. And I had the GP200 a few months ago. Didn't like the high gain sound of it. The Ampero Mini sounds much better on a first impression.
Matribox Sonicake is unuseful for me, in terms of no autorecording in looper section, only one, very limited 6 band eq, nomparametric, no 10 band, no global eq, but yes, it has some decent amp models and ability to use IRs is great, but you have no hi/low cut option for any native or user IRs though
@@dmitriopekine5402 the matribox works good for my needs. It's actually very impressive for its price. But i could understand where you're coming from tho. The line 6 helix or quad cortex may be up your alley mate
Have the mini and let the gp200lt go a while back. Equal sound quality, but the mini has a better noise floor. The touchscreen is more intuitive for me personally. But the gp200lt has massive a/d/a usb i/o options comparatively.
Hey Taylor, I just wanna buy a used ampero (the big one 1 Version) and harley benton poweramp and a cheap cab, does that setup Sound good on the first Version? I dont Wann take my axe fx 3 out 😂
Man, am looking for an amp in a box solution for live direct. I love these and things like the iridium, but theres just something in me that is wary of digital failing. Especially with a touchscreen. Im almost more drawn to a sansamp gt2 or similar just bc it feels like its more reliable and easier to use.
Yeah I know the feeling, but I also had a tube amp that would not turn on the first time I flipped the switches, consistently on tour. Everything is prone to failure at some point.
@@hereonmars You don't know True Gear Fear until you try traveling with a Mellotron. It's amazing those things ever worked at all, but after you toss them in and out of vans for a few nights, well, you're living on borrowed time.
@@TaylorDanley do you use amphub? Like on your mixes? I use it I found the Engle fireball sim sounds the best and all the custom irs I've found have been meh hoping u had pointers lol
They're all just the same guts in different shells. Harley Benton calls it the DNA-FX Git. Mooer has one too, but I forget the name. Sonicake is based on the same hardware. Flamma is another.
Thanks Taylor... Question... Can the Ampero Mini take eg x2 delays or eg x2 reverbs in the x2 alloted effects slots as you dwminstrated with the x2 Overdrive effects stacking ? Cheers
You're quite good at doing this. I just wish that you played sounds with more musical content and less emphasis on distorted signals. This isn't about musical tastes (different strokes, etc.), it's about what kind of sounds best display similarities and differences. Lots of distortion makes different things sound more alike and hides lots of subtlety. IMO your comparison would be better with a greater range of musical content... but maybe that's just me. Whatcha think?
He did spesifically say "If you know what you're doing with mic placement, you might want the X/Y option" For someone like me who doesn't know, being able to quickly flick between some presets and find the one I like the sound of is much more appeling then having to learn the difference between mic placements a milimeter at a time. Ask any studio engineer that works with real amps + cabs and they'll say properly micing up a cab is a skill in itself. In the studio where you're trying to find that perfect sound, such a skill comes in handy. But for a muscian on a budget who just wants to record demos or play some smaller live gigs, the ability to just scroll through some settings and go "that one sounds good" is a godsend.
This little device is designed for the untrained ear, who cannot tell the difference between Analog and Over processed Digital Audio. It will squash all you existing pedals on your board as well. It does not work well with ANY of my pedals.
On the other hand this kind of product (all the ampero line) is not specifically aimed to be used with other pedals. it's an all in one device made to be carried around or used for recording directly to the audio interface or to the mixer/PA in concerts.
Yeah. You shouldn't boost your signal into the front of a digital device with a guitar pedal. This should be common sense but apparently you "trained" people need to be reminded..
@davidfaustino4476 Thanks. It's hard working out features with all the elitist snobs that tell you that they can hear the difference, just whining. I think that there is sometimes a difference that can be felt, but not heard.
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I bought the mini for bass, and I love it. It does everything I need for both live and studio uses. No one pedal will do everything, and that's including a multi-effects pedal or a cab/amp simulator. It's simply a tool, and it should be used along with other tools in setup to achieve the sound and playability that you want.
I bought Ampero ii and quad cortex same time. For the money hotone very respectable
I agree!
Deep down you know the ampero sounds better huh 😅
in the end head to head test, just high cut the ampero's cab or IR to anywhere between 6k to 12k. To achieve what the actual head sounds like.
I went with the Stomp 2 because it has 2 inputs. I connect a PRS Piezo to both inputs and the FX combos are endless
owner of one here , i play hi gain and clean ambient things , sounds fantastic live and recording , bought the extra ampero foot switch to turn off delays and verbs live and i love that i can use that with the mini. Ive been trying to find things to nag me about this unit but so far none. I love the cost and the quality and form factor as i do not want to lug around such heavy equipment anymore. love you Taylor !!
Weird, I blind listened to the end vid comparison and rewind it to see what I liked. I liked the tone from ampero mini 😅.
I watch you since 4 years and I told you once that I dont understand why your channel have that number of subscribe if your quality is so good, im brasilian and I can translate your videos if you want… love your job ❤
as a Ampero Mini user, i shocked how your adjustment on Mini against those 2, is incredible. Mini has more open sounding compare to others. Lol. Im about to sell my Mini earlier, but now i will keep it though.
Great video as usual, Taylor.
Thank you
I'm on a budget, that's why I ordered the Ampero Mini for 200€ a few days ago. Tested a Valeton GP-200 a few months ago, but wasn't satisfied with the distorted sounds.
so , how do you like it?
@@diddymies
In the long run, I must admit, that I didn't succeed in dialing in many tones, that I really like over a longer period of time. I started playing my Nux MP2 stick again, where I have some high gain tones I actually like better. Maybe the Ampero needs third party IRs, that's what I heard many people say, but I didn't install any so far. Atm, I still like to use it as it is with bass though.
Your comment about mic position is correct. A speaker is a circle (99%) of the time. A line from the center to the edge and distance away from the cone is all you need. The Y axis on a circle (up and down) makes no sense. As if you spin the circle the X axis is all you need. I tried explaining this to Hotone years ago, finally it sunk in.
I guess it makes sense for 4 speakers, you can put your mic in one corner delaying the sound of the opposite corner speaker. What do you think about it?
I saw this mic config with real cabinets.
@@BrunoidGames Draw a circle. Put a mark anywhere on the circle. Spin the circle while holding a pen to your mark. You have just drawn another circle. You can put a mic anywhere on that new circle and it will sound the same.
Draw a straight line from the center to your mark. Spin the circle so that the line is horizontal. That is all you need to position a mic, the x-axis. Now you need the z-access to get the distance from the cone. That is it.
I don't get what you are saying about delays and 4 speakers. Cabs are miced up on one speaker no matter how many speakers are in the cab.
@@tiomkinnyborg2289 The further away from the speaker, the greater the sound delay from that speaker. If you place the mic in the bottom left corner, for example, you will have a greater distance from the speaker in the opposite corner. These milliseconds of difference will make up the sound. Sorry if I'm not clear.. I'm not a native english speaker. Thanks for your advice.
@@BrunoidGames Ah, I get what you mean. You are correct. Your English is as good as everyone else's. I just listen to the sound. If it sounds good then it is good. My original point was Hotone made a needlessly complex method of virtual mic placement. The new models have fixed that.
@@tiomkinnyborg2289 you're right, man. There's no need to over complicate digital gear. I'm looking for a Tone X companion and this one sounds nice. I will check MG 30 too.
I thought the stomp 2 sounds best. Even better than the amp!
I LITERALLY just finished watching the Ampero Mini video you posted and read the comment asking about Ampero II Stomp vs Ampero Mini. What timing!
Glad that worked out!
Interesting. The savage mkii seems to be the darkest and thickest, with the stomp 2 having a mid boost, and then the mini not only having that same mid boost as the 2, but also less low end. I wonder if that's a product of (I set the mids to 50%/12o'clock on every source) the difference being that 50%/12o'clock on every source is slightly different? As far as characteristics, it does sound like they're both doing great jobs at emulating the real thing though, so it basically just comes down to budget, I/O, and the intuitiveness (or lack thereof) of the UI at this point. Sick!
I’ve gone a bunch of different ways with this, but what I do these days is just dial it in the best I can. Especially in this situation since I know the amp they are emulating pretty well. The way you described the differences is true to each unit IME
Thank you Taylor for covering the drive stacking.
🥳 I try to remember to answer the comments that I get
Just bought the Mini for $180 shipped. I think for a total beginner like me, the II Stomp's signal path and other options would confuse me more so than the Mini and at more than twice the cost for things that I prob won't even need in the foreseeable future when learning guitar. And at $180 the effects and ease of use is quite justified for the cost.
I got mine for $170. Cheaper than the Boss IR-2. Got mine for noodling and practice.
@@joellebrodeur1015 Great price, love this little thing.
You really can't go wrong with any of these. So many possibilities for different kinds of players. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we're living in the golden age of guitar gear.
But personally, I think 3 footswitches is the fewest amount I'd want out of something like this.
Yeah, I like the additional options and functionality of the Ampero 2 Stomp personally.
Yeah it's the gold age but music with guitar is also less popular. So is it worthy?
@@bb-bryzontrap1525 Music with guitar is less popular? How do you figure that?
@@INeverWanted2010 Look at trap music and hip hop and compare them with metal videos views on TH-cam.
@@bb-bryzontrap1525 Ridiculous comparison. That's like saying scratch tables or samples is less popular because they're not used a lot in metal.
I would trade ampero 2 stomp for mini because mini has the drum feature.
You can. Ampero 2 stomp still retain a good price on the used market.
Personally I would not. Too much differences in performance and capabilities.
thanks for the review , tone wise i kind of like the ampero mini better 'cause it has more grit .
Ive had both the original ampero and now the stomp 2. The celestion IR'S included in the stomp 2 really make the unit sound more high def, its something you have to hear in person.
Hi there! Thanx for the vid. It's very important what you said about the EQ. You're right: it doesn't behave like a regular EQ on a real amp. It sounds, well, digital
Man, i liked the Ampero stomp the best in the end! Great unit, great stuff from Hotone!
Can you bypass the amps and cabs blocks and use the unit for effects only?
Awesome comparison, Taylor. 😎🤘🏻🎸 I’ve always heard a lot of good things about the hotone ampero and these multi-effects processors sound pretty killer.
Er, you dont need an 'extra' adapter for a stereo sound with the Mini as it comes in the box... Maybe you didnt go any further than the Mini but under it is a TRS Y Splitter cable for your stereo output.
same thought... why the hell having a Stomp 2 without the full board, where's the expression/volume pedal?
I have the sonicake matribox and its great. Was thinking about getting the ampero mini to go along side it, but i might wait and get the valeton gp200Lt instead. Not sure which one to get tho🤔
I got my Ampero Mini today. And I had the GP200 a few months ago. Didn't like the high gain sound of it. The Ampero Mini sounds much better on a first impression.
Matribox Sonicake is unuseful for me, in terms of no autorecording in looper section, only one, very limited 6 band eq, nomparametric, no 10 band, no global eq, but yes, it has some decent amp models and ability to use IRs is great, but you have no hi/low cut option for any native or user IRs though
@@dmitriopekine5402 the matribox works good for my needs. It's actually very impressive for its price. But i could understand where you're coming from tho. The line 6 helix or quad cortex may be up your alley mate
@@ChakraOver9khow can you compare helix or even cortex (1800 Euro) with 119$ Matribox?😂
Have the mini and let the gp200lt go a while back. Equal sound quality, but the mini has a better noise floor. The touchscreen is more intuitive for me personally. But the gp200lt has massive a/d/a usb i/o options comparatively.
Thanks for this dude 🤘🤘🤘👊👊👊 you are the man
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Hey Taylor, I just wanna buy a used ampero (the big one 1 Version) and harley benton poweramp and a cheap cab, does that setup Sound good on the first Version? I dont Wann take my axe fx 3 out 😂
Taylor did you go into the front of the Engl in the clean channel with the Ampero with IR's on or did you go into the effects return of the Engl?
In the shootout each unit is being used on it's own. For the amp I used a load box so I could add the same IR in post.
Hello, can you edit preamp and power amp separately in amperio mini?
does the mini plug straight into a cab
into a poweramp and then into a cab
Ampero Stomp for the win!
Man, am looking for an amp in a box solution for live direct. I love these and things like the iridium, but theres just something in me that is wary of digital failing. Especially with a touchscreen. Im almost more drawn to a sansamp gt2 or similar just bc it feels like its more reliable and easier to use.
Yeah I know the feeling, but I also had a tube amp that would not turn on the first time I flipped the switches, consistently on tour. Everything is prone to failure at some point.
@@TaylorDanley yeah man I bet every day in the van was "hmmm I hope it turns on tonight" 😔
@@hereonmars You don't know True Gear Fear until you try traveling with a Mellotron. It's amazing those things ever worked at all, but after you toss them in and out of vans for a few nights, well, you're living on borrowed time.
can i use the ampero just like efects in the efects loop to use my amp distortion
Yes. Just turn off the amp and cab sim, and you can use it I the loop or in the front of your amp.
The 2 sounds great
My favorite Hotone release
@@TaylorDanley do you use amphub? Like on your mixes? I use it I found the Engle fireball sim sounds the best and all the custom irs I've found have been meh hoping u had pointers lol
what does the whiteboard small letters say??????
They're all just the same guts in different shells. Harley Benton calls it the DNA-FX Git. Mooer has one too, but I forget the name. Sonicake is based on the same hardware. Flamma is another.
basically, yeah. if you can't get a decent sound out of one of them, it's the player not the gear.
I bought ampero mini.... Because of this video
Childish I know, but every time I see a pic of these pedals and the screen shows "P00-1" I laugh 😂
Too loud noise. Why?
Thanks Taylor... Question... Can the Ampero Mini take eg x2 delays or eg x2 reverbs in the x2 alloted effects slots as you dwminstrated with the x2 Overdrive effects stacking ? Cheers
Awesome video
Thanks! 💪
@taylorDanley for a bedroom musical that has a head cab combo
Ampero mini or pod go?
You're quite good at doing this.
I just wish that you played sounds with more musical content and less emphasis on distorted signals. This isn't about musical tastes (different strokes, etc.), it's about what kind of sounds best display similarities and differences. Lots of distortion makes different things sound more alike and hides lots of subtlety.
IMO your comparison would be better with a greater range of musical content... but maybe that's just me. Whatcha think?
it's funny how the cheapest unit jumps out the most in the mix... interesting...
the mini rocks 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Gracias Nano Stern
Why would you not want x y on speaker mixing? So I could take an Sm 57 and stick it anywhere on your speaker cone and you'd be ok with it?
He did spesifically say "If you know what you're doing with mic placement, you might want the X/Y option" For someone like me who doesn't know, being able to quickly flick between some presets and find the one I like the sound of is much more appeling then having to learn the difference between mic placements a milimeter at a time.
Ask any studio engineer that works with real amps + cabs and they'll say properly micing up a cab is a skill in itself. In the studio where you're trying to find that perfect sound, such a skill comes in handy. But for a muscian on a budget who just wants to record demos or play some smaller live gigs, the ability to just scroll through some settings and go "that one sounds good" is a godsend.
Splitter cable = 5 bucks. No biggie
Love the mini sold the stomp...........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you prefer about the mini?
10:15 a certain someone likes Hate Eternal a lot :)
Sounds like alot of noice
Love the scary music 😂
10:27
Ampero mini sounds better, wtf
The distortions are terrible
🤘🤘🤘
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Poo #1 hahaha
Hehehehe...the modeler says P00 on the screen
This little device is designed for the untrained ear, who cannot tell the difference between Analog and Over processed Digital Audio. It will squash all you existing pedals on your board as well. It does not work well with ANY of my pedals.
I needed.this comment you just saved my life
On the other hand this kind of product (all the ampero line) is not specifically aimed to be used with other pedals. it's an all in one device made to be carried around or used for recording directly to the audio interface or to the mixer/PA in concerts.
Yeah. You shouldn't boost your signal into the front of a digital device with a guitar pedal. This should be common sense but apparently you "trained" people need to be reminded..
Well maybe it needs Dibox in front of it, who knows. I wonder if it's possible to use will my tube preamp, which makes a pretty hot signal.
@davidfaustino4476 Thanks.
It's hard working out features with all the elitist snobs that tell you that they can hear the difference, just whining.
I think that there is sometimes a difference that can be felt, but not heard.