I don't have a lot to sooth the pain of funnel spam players, but the new way we use funnels is satisfying to me as a big fan of the anime. It's very bittersweet. I like that we use them for utility now because that's kinda what all the best funnels are doing in Gundam anyways. Their control systems almost always have some caveat like sticking a big psychic amplier on a pilot causing a bunch of trauma when they kill, and often they'll also be expensive to build and maintain and only work for a handful of pilots. Gundam Throne Zwei (and therefore the Arche) is a great example because its a melee focused suit. That stagger really is the ideal use case for the funnels in the fiction against its equals though obviously with the Gundams being so much more advanced than other suits in 00 it does ultimately get more out of them. Legend Gundam is another example. It does that beam thing on hold because its a development of the Providence and one of the problems with the Providence is under gravity the entire dragoon system becomes dead weight. They gave the Legend's dragoons articulation to fire while mounted exactly to give them something to do in that situation.
I always tell people, if you run a funnel build, just put on a few mag lev shotguns to supplement the damage and for EX gain. I hate people who use them for double Sword spam but for funnels, I think they're awesome.
I didn't know about the Mastered Arche legs or the Rose bits, so thank yiu foe the info. I've already been using the Legend backpack, C-Funnels, and GN Fans, so nice to know I can improve the buukd.
Bro, noo way. I literally just asked you for this video yesterday. Idk if that's a coincidence or what, but sincerely, thank you. You are truly the 🐐 of GB4.
The Arche GN fangs are utterly fucking stupid and I love them. if you keep up good combat and use some EX gain abilities they have nigh-100% uptime and I'm 90% certain that their stun is unblockable. It's one bar and it's utterly broken.
My best success with Funnels has been a full set of 8 builders parts GN Holster Bits; using machine guns stat’d for attack power and appropriate Ex attack power but also part breaking. Melee weapons are purely stat’d all the Ex gain abilities. Yes getting the 8 Ex charges is a little slow but the funnels alone generate 3-4 charges from kills and park breaks (owing to the much higher damage on Holster Bits). But I think the other reason Funnels feel weak is they won’t seek out other targets outside your lock on and the small numbers of fodder/mooks.
I picked up the Rozen Zulu backpack purely for aesthetic when I started playing this game, and ended up being really happy with how the Psycho Jammers just fully shut down enemies. So useful.
Honestly. Have a decent setup. 1 set of Kshatriya arms, 1 Qubeley backpack and 1 set of Zabaniya legs. 3 EX gauge for a lot of funnels. It isn't great but if you put enough out it helps a little i paired the additional Funnel racks for another 2 Ex gauge. It is costly but i love funnels enough yo try to make them as good as i can find. I came to a similar conclusion as you. More makes them better and if you balance how you play you can keep the upkeep under control. I usually use 3 1 cost because i can easily have constant uptime with 3.
I would ask "Why no GN Sword Bits?" from the Qan[T] backpack except for it disabling the other better EX attacks. You'd think they code it so would automatically cancel instead of having to manually cancel.
I was curious about this recently. Thank God you deliver. That said, 2 things: -I feel like GN Shield Bits are pretty notable, in a similar sense to Nu's Fin Funnels and the Shiranui Mobile Turrets. The GN Shield Bits start off rotating around you, but you can toggle them into attack mode. In a way, you can control how the Shield bits fire by swapping them in-between defense mode and attack mode. -Are funnels affected by reaction speed and trances? I got curious because maybe you could stack reaction speed to increase their firing frequency? At the same time, wouldn't it be bad to have too high reaction speed with Providence and Legend DRAGOONs because they fire beam blasts, thereby having less hit count per beam?
I did about four or five rounds of testing maybe a week or so before this came out and found the Providence backpack to consistently outperform the Legends backpack in Test mode by about 10k-30k (depending on how many hits they can rack up early) when the parts are maxed out. YMMV, but I thought it was very weird. Don't be tempted to toss on the legs for more funnels, it cuts the damage for whatever reason.
its because providence gets 3 big split funnels vs 2 on legend also when both have matching legs it goes from providence doing 5 funnels to 11 legend just does 10 providence full set does work
eyyyy glad u got to this was kinda what i was trying to get across during the live stream that there were some great utility ones your daribalde barrier funnel mode vid was what inspired me to try to incorporate and test funnels that gave me utilities
I'm using Gundam AGE-FX C funnels (it cost 1 EX to fire 9 funnels at once) *Body:* 2 Funnels *L&R Arms:* 3 Funnels each *Legs:* 4 Funnels *Shiranui Akatsuki Backpack:* 5 Funnels (cost 1 EX) _With the nexus mode that increases funnel fire frequency this build it oppressive to enemies_ _I'm still open to suggestions to improve my build_
strike freedom dragoon should fire simlar to that of legend its a trash for 4 ex use trans am ndt its better for whatever reason i use all three together bcoze sdragoon backpack is fourite
Funnels themselves? Poopoo. Dont take away my arms. The shield ability tho? Solid. Even if C Funnels accomplish the same thing, at least the Daril ones are a separate category and can be built differently
@theothermc Thats how i feel about all out attack ( all 3 funnels at once) you can use option equipment to cover them, but then you take a damage hit, i hope they buff funnels soon
On the first funnel blades does having more blades increase physical beam defense of is it the same value using one. Cause I agree I shouldn't add more cause the 3 bar cost is to high
Nah, the EX gauge is the issue, that shit need to be remove and go back been cool down based like previous Breaker game or revamp to make it easier to access EX skills without grind for 30sec for 1 EX gauge...
@@alternative915 Agreed. There's unfortunately a lot of that in GB4; them trying to reinvent the wheel and fix what wasn't broken. Its so much better than NGB, so I'm glad they listened, but they really didn't need to change around how optional parts and EX actions worked. We even lost out on 4 EX actions per weapon type since we don't have the basic 2 per weapon and their upgraded forms anymore.
There's currently a glitch where Liu bei's Unicorn left arm would not appear at all, i had one on my build n it was gone, remade the arm twice and it didn't appear on the list, On the Switch version btw
I don't have a lot to sooth the pain of funnel spam players, but the new way we use funnels is satisfying to me as a big fan of the anime. It's very bittersweet. I like that we use them for utility now because that's kinda what all the best funnels are doing in Gundam anyways. Their control systems almost always have some caveat like sticking a big psychic amplier on a pilot causing a bunch of trauma when they kill, and often they'll also be expensive to build and maintain and only work for a handful of pilots. Gundam Throne Zwei (and therefore the Arche) is a great example because its a melee focused suit. That stagger really is the ideal use case for the funnels in the fiction against its equals though obviously with the Gundams being so much more advanced than other suits in 00 it does ultimately get more out of them. Legend Gundam is another example. It does that beam thing on hold because its a development of the Providence and one of the problems with the Providence is under gravity the entire dragoon system becomes dead weight. They gave the Legend's dragoons articulation to fire while mounted exactly to give them something to do in that situation.
Super DRAGOON and Rose Bits user here, i jumped into newtype immediately after unlocking it, and it is a walk in the park with these two rolling.
I always tell people, if you run a funnel build, just put on a few mag lev shotguns to supplement the damage and for EX gain. I hate people who use them for double Sword spam but for funnels, I think they're awesome.
I didn't know about the Mastered Arche legs or the Rose bits, so thank yiu foe the info. I've already been using the Legend backpack, C-Funnels, and GN Fans, so nice to know I can improve the buukd.
As a melee C-Funnel and GN Fang user, I'm going to master Legends Backpack.
Bro, noo way. I literally just asked you for this video yesterday. Idk if that's a coincidence or what, but sincerely, thank you. You are truly the 🐐 of GB4.
The Arche GN fangs are utterly fucking stupid and I love them. if you keep up good combat and use some EX gain abilities they have nigh-100% uptime and I'm 90% certain that their stun is unblockable. It's one bar and it's utterly broken.
Actually just want to say how much I love your builds. You’ve got a good little bundle of guys I’d like to collect 👁️👄👁️
My best success with Funnels has been a full set of 8 builders parts GN Holster Bits; using machine guns stat’d for attack power and appropriate Ex attack power but also part breaking.
Melee weapons are purely stat’d all the Ex gain abilities.
Yes getting the 8 Ex charges is a little slow but the funnels alone generate 3-4 charges from kills and park breaks (owing to the much higher damage on Holster Bits).
But I think the other reason Funnels feel weak is they won’t seek out other targets outside your lock on and the small numbers of fodder/mooks.
I'm glad. I just got into gundam after watching G-witch and i was afraid the laser attack was all i could do with Aerial.
I picked up the Rozen Zulu backpack purely for aesthetic when I started playing this game, and ended up being really happy with how the Psycho Jammers just fully shut down enemies. So useful.
Thanks for all of the info vids man I appreciate it.
Ty for the advice on the funnel ideas help me a lot on which funnel I can use on for my build
Honestly. Have a decent setup. 1 set of Kshatriya arms, 1 Qubeley backpack and 1 set of Zabaniya legs. 3 EX gauge for a lot of funnels. It isn't great but if you put enough out it helps a little i paired the additional Funnel racks for another 2 Ex gauge. It is costly but i love funnels enough yo try to make them as good as i can find. I came to a similar conclusion as you. More makes them better and if you balance how you play you can keep the upkeep under control. I usually use 3 1 cost because i can easily have constant uptime with 3.
I would ask "Why no GN Sword Bits?" from the Qan[T] backpack except for it disabling the other better EX attacks. You'd think they code it so would automatically cancel instead of having to manually cancel.
I was curious about this recently. Thank God you deliver. That said, 2 things:
-I feel like GN Shield Bits are pretty notable, in a similar sense to Nu's Fin Funnels and the Shiranui Mobile Turrets. The GN Shield Bits start off rotating around you, but you can toggle them into attack mode. In a way, you can control how the Shield bits fire by swapping them in-between defense mode and attack mode.
-Are funnels affected by reaction speed and trances? I got curious because maybe you could stack reaction speed to increase their firing frequency? At the same time, wouldn't it be bad to have too high reaction speed with Providence and Legend DRAGOONs because they fire beam blasts, thereby having less hit count per beam?
#MakeFunnelsGreatAgain
i miss my phenex funnels from gb3, big beamy goodness.. guess hi-v will have to do
im using the funnels mod from nexusmods and its so good. constant firing and decent damage. feels like anime almost
I did about four or five rounds of testing maybe a week or so before this came out and found the Providence backpack to consistently outperform the Legends backpack in Test mode by about 10k-30k (depending on how many hits they can rack up early) when the parts are maxed out. YMMV, but I thought it was very weird. Don't be tempted to toss on the legs for more funnels, it cuts the damage for whatever reason.
its because providence gets 3 big split funnels vs 2 on legend
also when both have matching legs it goes from providence doing 5 funnels to 11 legend just does 10
providence full set does work
eyyyy
glad u got to this
was kinda what i was trying to get across during the live stream that there were some great utility ones
your daribalde barrier funnel mode vid was what inspired me to try to incorporate and test funnels that gave me utilities
I'm using Gundam AGE-FX C funnels (it cost 1 EX to fire 9 funnels at once)
*Body:* 2 Funnels
*L&R Arms:* 3 Funnels each
*Legs:* 4 Funnels
*Shiranui Akatsuki Backpack:* 5 Funnels (cost 1 EX)
_With the nexus mode that increases funnel fire frequency this build it oppressive to enemies_
_I'm still open to suggestions to improve my build_
but if u notice, the total damage that funnel did s equivalent to the EX bar that it cost
shiranui shoots 7 funnels
If only gundam legilis bits also share the same function as FX instead of been another "Aerial" gimmick :\
What about Calubarn Gunbits? Sure you need 4 pats to fully use them but... Its pretty much damage 😂 for just 2 Points
i mostly used super dragoon because its a trans and uses funnels going to add the Legends to the build and should be done
I feel called out. Why was I called out? MC!!!!
strike freedom dragoon should fire simlar to that of legend its a trash for 4 ex use trans am ndt its better for whatever reason i use all three together bcoze sdragoon backpack is fourite
Hi OtherMC, you need to make a second clan on PS5 US
Oh snap gotta find someone to do a second
Try Unicorn Full Armor and Phenex shield funnels.
Does reaction speed increase the fire rate of the beams on the Providence funnel version
How do you feel about darilbaldes funnels
Funnels themselves? Poopoo. Dont take away my arms. The shield ability tho? Solid. Even if C Funnels accomplish the same thing, at least the Daril ones are a separate category and can be built differently
@theothermc Thats how i feel about all out attack ( all 3 funnels at once) you can use option equipment to cover them, but then you take a damage hit, i hope they buff funnels soon
On the first funnel blades does having more blades increase physical beam defense of is it the same value using one. Cause I agree I shouldn't add more cause the 3 bar cost is to high
Same buff. The actual funnel part has more hits tho
@@theothermc yeah I saw that part from the video hopefully in future patches they increase the buffs that we receive from added funnels
I'm sad the Nu Gundam funnels aren't as strong as the Providence's
i really hope they fix this bs
They shouldn't have put funnels/fangs on EX move, it should have been an OP same as before. The use for them in Gb4 is not as satisfying as Gb3.
Nah, the EX gauge is the issue, that shit need to be remove and go back been cool down based like previous Breaker game or revamp to make it easier to access EX skills without grind for 30sec for 1 EX gauge...
@@alternative915 Agreed. There's unfortunately a lot of that in GB4; them trying to reinvent the wheel and fix what wasn't broken. Its so much better than NGB, so I'm glad they listened, but they really didn't need to change around how optional parts and EX actions worked. We even lost out on 4 EX actions per weapon type since we don't have the basic 2 per weapon and their upgraded forms anymore.
There's currently a glitch where Liu bei's Unicorn left arm would not appear at all, i had one on my build n it was gone, remade the arm twice and it didn't appear on the list, On the Switch version btw
Funnels are a joke bro 😂😂😂😂 what a disaster 😑 🤦 🙄 an a let down waste of an ex😂😂😂😂