This movie made it canon that Madame Web knew the future that her friend Uncle Ben will die but chose not to prevent it from happening. What an asshole.
The ending implies that the future can be changed and that she will be preventing bad outcomes from occurring with her foresight. So yeah, she’s totally just going to let her best friend die. I suppose that you could debate the whole greater good thing since it leads to Spider-Man saving hundreds of lives after that, but it makes her a bit inhumane. Spiderverse 2 dealt with this better since that wrestles with the same idea that a relative and friend of Miles must die to preserve the multiverse and make him a better Spider-Man
@@colten53 Yeah, it led to the birth of Spider-Man but it also led to a complete destruction of Peter Parker’s life that sent him into a perpetual misery. So my point still stands, Madame Web is an asshole. Also, I realized that, since Sony tried to make Madame Web in the same canon as Tom Holland’s spider, that means Web knew that Peter is gonna lose EVERYONE in his life (May died, MJ and Ned forgot about him) and let that happen anyway. She accidentally became the most evil Spider-Man villain and Sony isn’t even aware about it.
@@nont18411 See, I feel like this could be an interesting question for a film like this to ponder. Letting Ben die, and letting Peter suffer will as mentioned save hundreds of lives in the future, and be a net positive to the world from a purely pragmatic view. A more intelligent movie would grapple with this question extensively. What should she do? Should she act as if she doesn’t know, and simply let the future happen as it would? Or should she change the future because she has the power to, thus saving a life, but potentially stifling all the good Spider-Man would do in the future? See, that premise sounds at least halfway interesting. Too bad the writers didn’t even come close to considering any of it.
@@hawttub_2265the bigger problem is this relies on the assumption Uncle Ben *has* to die for Peter to become the hero he is. There's no reason to think just a scare of his uncle being shot but surviving wouldn't have the same effect on him, or even just being mugged without damage to his person, the only reason Uncle Ben dies is because for a fictional story written for entertainment that's more dramatic, and opens story avenues in regards to peter having to support his aunt, not because it's a necessity of reality. You have to have a very low opinion of Peter Parker as a character to think the *only* way he can learn his lesson is if someone close to him dies due to his negligence
@@WarCriminalPhlox Fair enough I guess, I was operating under the assumption it would have to happen for him to become Spider-Man, it has been hinted as such in other Spider-Man media. And my point was that if it WAS the case that Ben had to die, that could be set up for an interesting moral question the film could explore. But the film doesn’t do that, nor does it establish that indeed Ben needs to die for Spidey to come about. So Madame web does indeed come out looking like a huge prick.
Sony's inability to understand *anything* about their audience is astounding. Or at least the top people who make these decisions don't understand, probably because they're so filthy rich and "powerful" that they're completely detached from the larger populace.
It's really nice to see a movie come out that every side of the internet can agree is bad. I miss that, you know. When we could just say a movie is bad, without a certain side of the internet whining? Good times.
@jeremyusreevu237 That's true. My wife made a good point with all these movies. She said, "Who are they aiming at? If she can't make me go, she is not interested in going." They now lose two tickets, trying to aim a female views.
"When you accept responsibility, great power will come" - that line is criminal and an insult to every spidey fan's intelligence. 10/10 movie It's madamin'time, she webbed all over the place !
8:40 you could, no joke, have had a cool choreographed scene where the paramedics work together almost wordlessly to save the patient extremely efficiently to show that these characters are in sync and familiar with each other and how they work together The driver could have been an extra, having both characters in back and working together would be far more interesting and easily characterize them
That would have been cool, maybe just do a POV of the extra driver bobbing and weaving through traffic (Maybe give them one line like, "Hold on!" as they wheel around a corner or, "Go, go, go!" when they finally stop) while in the back they are taking turns with the patient while passing implements to each other as they bounce and lean...give them that combat medic feel...(IIRC they did something similar with the cops in The Dark Knight until the twist that Gordon was the driver, I really liked the quips of the passenger guy too)...
You know... the contrived blindness could have been easily solved by having Madame Webb trigger her future sight repeatedly and deliberately, straining and destroying her eyes, but letting her see via her future sight just enough to counter evil spiderman, but it's not perfect, she barely manages it, and she's blind/crippled by the time she gets either a killing blow, or weakens him/distracts him
That'd make too much sense, something the writers lacked. The way she got crippled reminded me of how young Xavier got a spinal tap in X-Men: First Class.
They could pull a dr strange and have her see multiple possibilities but the only one that results in victory is also the one that ends up with her paralyzed. lol maybe she could drive an ambulance off a carport AGAIN only this time she forgets her seatbelt so she isn’t miraculously fine like before… Hell, the blindness and paralysis could maybe be a side effect of the toxin that emo spooderman secretes…she manages to survive it for whatever reason but there are side effects. Almost literally anything but an underwater firework doing the deed would be better…
Those people should be charged twice, for buying a ticket in the first place. These are the same people that pre-order a game and then complain about buying the game.
She drove the stolen cab for roughly 750-800km (300 before removing the plates) before stealing the ambulance. Mind you, this is guesstimating her and Ben's apartment locations.
I want to know what seeing the future looks like when under the influence of Bites The Dust. Wouldn't you just see Kara's identity getting exposed in the future triggering the bomb, and thus trigger the bomb right away?
2:50 also it's a wink at feminism, how women have battled the raising kids vs. having a career, which the statement, " ugh, she doesn't want me to work"
If you are such a bad writer that you need to resort to exposition to deliver something important that drives the plot, you might as well use a metric tonne of technobabble that you got from people online trying to explain it, even though they only have cursory understanding of the underlying science. At least they did it quickly. Imagine this with a Snyder and JJ pass with slo-mo lens flares. Well... if you do both of those and give it some Nolan skybeams (for Nough Reason) and sound effects it would take this from uniententional parody and make it a peak fire parody.
The newspapper bit is an interesting example of how the younger generation struggles to understand how world was different before smartphones and social media become a thing.
It just hit me that Madam Web did the thing that Deathnote (Netflix) did, kinda-sorta. It involves water, but iirc at least Madam Web broke her back...I think, she broke her back right?
@awhellnah__ the Transformers movies were super successful in _China._ Most of them would have barely made their budgets back if they only released in the US.
I largely ignore the movies and shows the guys watch. I don't have time to waste on things I know I'm not going to like and have nothing to gain from watching it
Given that Madam was born in the jungles of Peru, but grew up in New York, and apparently she doesn't remember the spider people that saved her when her mom died, I believe the exposition is for her, so she'll know what happened to her mom and the man who was "with my mom in the jungle when she was researching spiders, right before she died". Sometimes, in movies, the characters can't know some things unless they read the script, so the writers put that stuff in the script for Madam.
49:45 As Yahtzee once said, "Well, the industry basically sees their customer base as a bunch of ravenous mouths in designer jeans so, line up and consume away you maw having, pants wearing things, you..." ...and as Carl Brutanalanalewski said, "Just say Smith or Jones or something, it doesn't matter...none of this frickin' matters..."
And you wanna know the worst part? This dumpster fire of a film was sadly the first Columbia film to feature its 100th anniversary logo. What a travesty.
My favorite part is when she said “its webbin time” and she farted a web out and killed the bad guy after she kills the bad guy she stares at the camera and saids “see ya chump”
I didn't know all my favorites teamed up for a stream show. It's like a super group broadcasting out the hall of justice. An all powerful tough talk JLA. Or Legion Of Doom. Whichever. I can't wait till Chris Stuckman joins the squad. He's the missing link to the secret sauce. Only then will your decent to the dark side be complete.
I highly advise caution. Releasing this meaty of a highlight of an efap that barely came out a few days prior, you might be splitting views. Great highlight it really condenses the problems of the movie.
OK... Rags, how do you go from one of the funniest one-liners in recent memory in the Peter Butts response "It's the diabetes" to this torrent of UNFUNNY verbal diarrhea of "stories" you keep on spouting even though NONE of your fellow responders are laughing and you keep on trying, digging the unfunny hole ever deeper?!? Stick to the one-liners and stop stealing the FUNNY comments of your cohorts and bloviating. It is cringe, sir.
Morbinverse Madame Webb 🫱🏻🫲🏾 Snyderverse Martian Manhunter Super powerful heroes who chose not to prevent the bad things from happening and sit out the whole conflicts
I’m so glad it’s on Netflix already. I didn’t watch ghostbusters 2016 because I didn’t want give money to the studio for making it, but I missed out on all the cringe and it’s not streaming anywhere. I’m not buying it, but now when people rag on it I don’t understand fully because I didn’t see it. This on the other hand, I’m already 20min in and loving the experience. 100% correct on the cringe
Against all odds Madame Web is the highest grossing Madame Web movie of all time.
Also, the lowest grossing...
Yes
Actually, Madame Web grossed more today than it did yesterday in totality, and the same will be true tomorrow.
@@Handles_AreStupid so... They've sold at least 6 tickets?
Same difficulty setting as managing to be the highest grossing Spiderman movie 🫠
This movie made it canon that Madame Web knew the future that her friend Uncle Ben will die but chose not to prevent it from happening. What an asshole.
The ending implies that the future can be changed and that she will be preventing bad outcomes from occurring with her foresight. So yeah, she’s totally just going to let her best friend die. I suppose that you could debate the whole greater good thing since it leads to Spider-Man saving hundreds of lives after that, but it makes her a bit inhumane. Spiderverse 2 dealt with this better since that wrestles with the same idea that a relative and friend of Miles must die to preserve the multiverse and make him a better Spider-Man
@@colten53 Yeah, it led to the birth of Spider-Man but it also led to a complete destruction of Peter Parker’s life that sent him into a perpetual misery. So my point still stands, Madame Web is an asshole.
Also, I realized that, since Sony tried to make Madame Web in the same canon as Tom Holland’s spider, that means Web knew that Peter is gonna lose EVERYONE in his life (May died, MJ and Ned forgot about him) and let that happen anyway. She accidentally became the most evil Spider-Man villain and Sony isn’t even aware about it.
@@nont18411
See, I feel like this could be an interesting question for a film like this to ponder.
Letting Ben die, and letting Peter suffer will as mentioned save hundreds of lives in the future, and be a net positive to the world from a purely pragmatic view.
A more intelligent movie would grapple with this question extensively. What should she do? Should she act as if she doesn’t know, and simply let the future happen as it would? Or should she change the future because she has the power to, thus saving a life, but potentially stifling all the good Spider-Man would do in the future?
See, that premise sounds at least halfway interesting. Too bad the writers didn’t even come close to considering any of it.
@@hawttub_2265the bigger problem is this relies on the assumption Uncle Ben *has* to die for Peter to become the hero he is. There's no reason to think just a scare of his uncle being shot but surviving wouldn't have the same effect on him, or even just being mugged without damage to his person, the only reason Uncle Ben dies is because for a fictional story written for entertainment that's more dramatic, and opens story avenues in regards to peter having to support his aunt, not because it's a necessity of reality. You have to have a very low opinion of Peter Parker as a character to think the *only* way he can learn his lesson is if someone close to him dies due to his negligence
@@WarCriminalPhlox
Fair enough I guess, I was operating under the assumption it would have to happen for him to become Spider-Man, it has been hinted as such in other Spider-Man media.
And my point was that if it WAS the case that Ben had to die, that could be set up for an interesting moral question the film could explore.
But the film doesn’t do that, nor does it establish that indeed Ben needs to die for Spidey to come about. So Madame web does indeed come out looking like a huge prick.
Sony’s inability to understand that the audience actually made fun of Morbius and are now making fun of this movie is astounding.
Sony's inability to understand *anything* about their audience is astounding. Or at least the top people who make these decisions don't understand, probably because they're so filthy rich and "powerful" that they're completely detached from the larger populace.
Excellent PFP. Jalter best girl.
@williamshelton4318 the "there's no such thing as bad publicity" mindset hits it's logical conclusion...
That conclusion is "yes there is"
@@williamshelton4318
"Bean-counters" lol. Also ffs they deleted my other comment.
Line go up, so money go up
The EFAP Crew forgot that spiders have the ability to see the future
"Spidey sense"
but can they see the quantumverse?
Ants can
@@wesspectAnts can see the quantumverse. Spiders can sense it.
Worst movie of 2024 *so far
oh yes, looking at 2023, if we're on the same course, then much worse is waiting for us.
Love the simpsons reference
This one was so bad we might have peaked early, sadly :(
Re-shot Black Captain Falcon Black America might take the cake
@Oakshield2 ah hah! 2025 that one. For now, Deadpool 3 has the chance to do some real damage, but I honestly don't think it will be as bad.
Nice choice of thumbnail! It was actually surprisingly annoying to get the spider suit in the Jeb pose like that, lol.
So worth it though 👍
You're a hero
Web! 2024
It's really nice to see a movie come out that every side of the internet can agree is bad. I miss that, you know. When we could just say a movie is bad, without a certain side of the internet whining? Good times.
Even the lead actress agrees!
That's because it is not Disney. The Marvel is still worse, and it got protected.
@@luisg2665 True, but we should still take the wins when we get them.
@jeremyusreevu237 That's true. My wife made a good point with all these movies. She said, "Who are they aiming at? If she can't make me go, she is not interested in going."
They now lose two tickets, trying to aim a female views.
Im surprised that we have not seen articles screaming that men are sexist incels for not watching this movie.
"When you accept responsibility, great power will come" - that line is criminal and an insult to every spidey fan's intelligence. 10/10 movie It's madamin'time, she webbed all over the place !
if I saw a guy crawling on the wall.... I go straight to demon.
I was thinking the same thing. Not sure why lizard came up😅
8:40 you could, no joke, have had a cool choreographed scene where the paramedics work together almost wordlessly to save the patient extremely efficiently to show that these characters are in sync and familiar with each other and how they work together
The driver could have been an extra, having both characters in back and working together would be far more interesting and easily characterize them
That would have been cool, maybe just do a POV of the extra driver bobbing and weaving through traffic (Maybe give them one line like, "Hold on!" as they wheel around a corner or, "Go, go, go!" when they finally stop) while in the back they are taking turns with the patient while passing implements to each other as they bounce and lean...give them that combat medic feel...(IIRC they did something similar with the cops in The Dark Knight until the twist that Gordon was the driver, I really liked the quips of the passenger guy too)...
You know... the contrived blindness could have been easily solved by having Madame Webb trigger her future sight repeatedly and deliberately, straining and destroying her eyes, but letting her see via her future sight just enough to counter evil spiderman, but it's not perfect, she barely manages it, and she's blind/crippled by the time she gets either a killing blow, or weakens him/distracts him
That'd make too much sense, something the writers lacked. The way she got crippled reminded me of how young Xavier got a spinal tap in X-Men: First Class.
@@thientuongnguyen2564i mean at least it was cool in someway, in madame web a random firework just hits her
They could pull a dr strange and have her see multiple possibilities but the only one that results in victory is also the one that ends up with her paralyzed.
lol maybe she could drive an ambulance off a carport AGAIN only this time she forgets her seatbelt so she isn’t miraculously fine like before…
Hell, the blindness and paralysis could maybe be a side effect of the toxin that emo spooderman secretes…she manages to survive it for whatever reason but there are side effects.
Almost literally anything but an underwater firework doing the deed would be better…
Whenever someone says “I can see the future” I’m always reminded of that future seeing fish alien from the Dragon Ball Z Abridged Bardock Movie.
"OH No! They Can See Me!... In The Future."
I am absolutely flabbergasted that a major feature of the plot is literally 🕷️🔮
Meme magic!
Spider balls?
Wizard arachnids
Take a shot of rhino milk, you deserve it. The Don protects!
Worst movie of 2024... so far.
Apparently it’s so bad that people are asking for refunds for tickets
Those people should be charged twice, for buying a ticket in the first place. These are the same people that pre-order a game and then complain about buying the game.
I'd buy a ticket just to try and get a refund lmao
So it's the SS:KtJL of movies, essentially?
@@luisg2665 It's wild that there are a subset of people who never learn their lesson.
I swear blackmail is the only way these people can get writing of this quality onto the big screen.
Morb stonks rising thanks to Madame Web.
Morbheads rise up!
T'IS MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORBIN TIME!
You could tell me that these films are a tax write-off for Sony or some shit, and i'd probably believe you.
This all makes me wonder how this would hold up against Batgirl but we'll never see it.
Batgirl is the movie that I would pay a ninja to break into the WB HQ to steal it.
@@luisg2665 I'm pretty sure all evidence has been incinerated. Maybe someone who worked on it has a copy hiding in their Malibu home.
She drove the stolen cab for roughly 750-800km (300 before removing the plates) before stealing the ambulance. Mind you, this is guesstimating her and Ben's apartment locations.
8:56 Fringy typing up essential Goo communications/transmissions.
I'm scratching my head how this movie even got made... but it's SONY so nothing really surprises me with them any more.
The director is a flaming feminist that sold it as an ESG/DEI win to convert that pesky patriarchal Spider-MAN into Spider-Whamens.
This is the second form of media where a Pepsi sign was integral to the defeat of the villain.
Now that was a Jojo reference i never saw coming!
I want to know what seeing the future looks like when under the influence of Bites The Dust.
Wouldn't you just see Kara's identity getting exposed in the future triggering the bomb, and thus trigger the bomb right away?
Remember everyone, it’s only February. We still have 10 more months of possible bad movies. I await to dance in the flames.
Our patience has paid off! Borderlands will give Madame Web a fight for the ages!
Who lets a pregnant woman go to the Amazon… did she get pregnant in Brazil… where is the baby daddy where is he what’s going on in this movie 😵💫😵💫
_”Making films that become memes is the only thing that brings us joy in life…”_
-*SONY*
59:34 you're basically describing Final Destination, lol
Except that in Final Destination, the main character never gets help.
What's with the "Madam" moniker? Does she run a bordello in her spare time?
Don't forget, everybody. This movie was grounded in reality.
'The spiders are wasted here!'
So is the audience...
The bad guy dies the same way the Flash dies in the Suicide Squad video game.
They both died when they got P'd on.
Why was the mother pregnant and in the jungle? Couldn't she waited until after the birth to go looking for spiders?
Uhm excuse me, cis-pig, wahmen are strong and pregnancy is no obstacle to them doing anything they want, at any time
Perfect reformat of the beginnings of the EFAP Highlights!!! 👏😁😊👍
2:50 also it's a wink at feminism, how women have battled the raising kids vs. having a career, which the statement, " ugh, she doesn't want me to work"
Imagine that conversation between her and uncle Ben being your potential dying moments.
This film was made for Jay.
Fortune telling spiders 🕷️ 🔮
Mofo said "use the web" 🤣
If you are such a bad writer that you need to resort to exposition to deliver something important that drives the plot, you might as well use a metric tonne of technobabble that you got from people online trying to explain it, even though they only have cursory understanding of the underlying science. At least they did it quickly. Imagine this with a Snyder and JJ pass with slo-mo lens flares. Well... if you do both of those and give it some Nolan skybeams (for Nough Reason) and sound effects it would take this from uniententional parody and make it a peak fire parody.
Darn it, Wolf! You beat me to the Simpson meme reference! xD
I like the part when she turns to the camera and says "It's Madame time!"
4:30 I guess it's a novelty to put the plot straight into the dialogue...
XD
The newspapper bit is an interesting example of how the younger generation struggles to understand how world was different before smartphones and social media become a thing.
You guys need to talk about the chris stuckman controversy surrounding this novie
Just when you thought i couldn't get any worse, madam. the jebs stike back
Kraven the Hunter coming in clutch at the 11:59 to unseat Madame Web
This movie has The Room levels of dialogue
Nah, give it time, I'm sure Sony can top it themselves. If not, someone else probably will.
Madame Jeb
It just hit me that Madam Web did the thing that Deathnote (Netflix) did, kinda-sorta. It involves water, but iirc at least Madam Web broke her back...I think, she broke her back right?
Resident evil made $$$. Always remember that
Those Uwu Bolo movies are CLASSICS!
RE: Apocalypse is the perfect movie!!
TH-cam, please don't delete this hot take!
@awhellnah__ the Transformers movies were super successful in _China._ Most of them would have barely made their budgets back if they only released in the US.
I appreciate how they conveyed in the film the spiders natural ability to summon time paradox duplicates of itself to escape danger
I wonder if Wolf subject himself to this movie
I largely ignore the movies and shows the guys watch. I don't have time to waste on things I know I'm not going to like and have nothing to gain from watching it
@@EFAPHighlightsGood idea
Given that Madam was born in the jungles of Peru, but grew up in New York, and apparently she doesn't remember the spider people that saved her when her mom died, I believe the exposition is for her, so she'll know what happened to her mom and the man who was "with my mom in the jungle when she was researching spiders, right before she died".
Sometimes, in movies, the characters can't know some things unless they read the script, so the writers put that stuff in the script for Madam.
I unironically read that title as Madame Jeb
49:45 As Yahtzee once said, "Well, the industry basically sees their customer base as a bunch of ravenous mouths in designer jeans so, line up and consume away you maw having, pants wearing things, you..."
...and as Carl Brutanalanalewski said, "Just say Smith or Jones or something, it doesn't matter...none of this frickin' matters..."
If a Spider Man movie was written and directed by Kathleen Kennedy...
"It's webbin time" - Madame Web in Madame Web (2024)
And you wanna know the worst part? This dumpster fire of a film was sadly the first Columbia film to feature its 100th anniversary logo. What a travesty.
My favorite part is when she said “its webbin time” and she farted a web out and killed the bad guy after she kills the bad guy she stares at the camera and saids “see ya chump”
To the guy with the controller in the background; you play games. We get it nerd! xD
Missed oppotunity for the thumbnail to be ''All Web''
My idea was for Ezekiel to take drugs and try to enter a state when you can't see dreams.
"Spider person" it's them much like not being able to use "Wall crawler" trying to wedge spider man into the joke of a script.
57:10 made me laugh out loud
I didn't know all my favorites teamed up for a stream show. It's like a super group broadcasting out the hall of justice. An all powerful tough talk JLA. Or Legion Of Doom. Whichever. I can't wait till Chris Stuckman joins the squad. He's the missing link to the secret sauce. Only then will your decent to the dark side be complete.
NGL, Dracula Untold is a guilty pleasure of mine. Has a lot to do with who plays Vlad.
5:40 and that's why unions are a problem.
Happy Webruary!
Wait this highlight is an hour
What if he just ignored the three girls and moves to another country?
The Web is unnanimous on this one
Im disappointed in this community. Not one person said 'Madame Jeb'
Madam webb should not be critized. It was terrible though. Great review
Release the Snyder Cut!!!
Is it true that Web's Mom was shot in the stomach? You know, where the baby is?
Is this even a superhero movie?
Sydney and her sweeneys woooooooooosh!
Title is incorrect, correct title is best movie of 2000 years.
Water your Webs
Worst movie of our generation
I highly advise caution. Releasing this meaty of a highlight of an efap that barely came out a few days prior, you might be splitting views.
Great highlight it really condenses the problems of the movie.
OK... Rags, how do you go from one of the funniest one-liners in recent memory in the Peter Butts response "It's the diabetes" to this torrent of UNFUNNY verbal diarrhea of "stories" you keep on spouting even though NONE of your fellow responders are laughing and you keep on trying, digging the unfunny hole ever deeper?!? Stick to the one-liners and stop stealing the FUNNY comments of your cohorts and bloviating. It is cringe, sir.
Morbinverse Madame Webb 🫱🏻🫲🏾 Snyderverse Martian Manhunter
Super powerful heroes who chose not to prevent the bad things from happening and sit out the whole conflicts
I’m so glad it’s on Netflix already. I didn’t watch ghostbusters 2016 because I didn’t want give money to the studio for making it, but I missed out on all the cringe and it’s not streaming anywhere. I’m not buying it, but now when people rag on it I don’t understand fully because I didn’t see it.
This on the other hand, I’m already 20min in and loving the experience. 100% correct on the cringe