I buy bulk of the follow ingredients and take the maximum effective dose of each: - Creatine Monohydrate - L-Citrulline - Caffeine - Glycerol Monostearate - Beta Alanine By doing this, each dose is waaaaay cheaper than if there was a pre work that had all these ingredients and dosages.
@@joshsmith2723 I kinda like the itch for psychological reasons, but I also do a lot of cardio so it’s not totally a waste. I believe it helps on protein synthesis as well.
It’s definitely not a must, and I have had some terrible pre workouts. But there are a select few that I have found to be substantially better than coffee. The most noticeable effect is the motivation to train and the ability to train for longer with these motivation. Whereas when I have just coffee alone the effects are still similar but just not as intense, even when matched in caffeine dose
@@tvaettis0653 here’s my top 4 based on your experience with pre workout: - beginner (all black everything) - intermediate (total war or mvPRE) - advanced (alpha darkside onslaught) If you are new to pre workout I’d advise against starting with onslaught, that one really is a crazy pre, yet to find a better one than that… and fairly unheard of relative to other brands
@@tvaettis0653 nice keep it up. Of course only downside is tolerance over time, but main affects I notice with onslaught is that I’m able to workout at a higher intensity for longer, and the focus and energy is very noticeable… mix it with some salt and you’re on your way. Plus no beta alanine so no tingles
For me is the ritual alone. The mixing while getting ready ans blasting some tunes. The tingling sensation… now there is no skipping it. You have to go.
Thank you for making this video! I have heard only good things about Pre-workout but didn’t get it because I wanted an unbiased opinion. I just started watching your channel and I’m happy I did because I know that you only speak the truth on these topics and are super funny
@@austinfreyrikrw6651 lol calm down thats like saying creatine doesn't work its just a placebo effect bro its not really doing anything , pre-workout is something you should do your research because what this video is talking about is a proprietary blend not every pre is like that. Do your own research dont just listen to a channel that's speaks on its own accord
I agree. I don't think it's a must, but as you said, it helps. I wake up at 3 to hit the gym on 5-6 hours of sleep and I can say that I do feel the difference in energy levels. If I could workout later during the day, I definitely would not need Pre-workout.
The only pre-workout that was worth it (it was liquid gold), was the original Craze. It had some synthetic amphetamine snuck in so yeah, it WORKED. Want to work out at 200% energy for 3 hours straight and still want to do more? Want to lift so much weight that you finish your workout struggling with pink 5 pound dumbbells? Want to do that at 4am in the morning after waking up at 3:30 to drink it? Want to train again at 200% energy for another 3 hours straight at 5pm? 6 hours of working out a day? Want to do that 6 days a week? The OG Craze allowed that. It did cause severe acid reflux from overtraining though.
When I first started training over 10 years ago a couple of friends gave me some pre-Workouts and it would almost always result in me puking mid or post workout ( especially when doing deadlifts). Cup of coffee is all I need and even then only on some days.
This is some useful information considering I started working out like months weeks ago without any supplements😆I pretty much binge watched all of your videos alongside other youtubers, currently debating if I should use supplements or not.
You should try pre and make your own opinion. Personally I use only creatine preworkout and protein. I'm not saying need it but squeezing in those 2 more reps per set is definitely worth it. If you decide to, don't buy anything that's "made for newbies" just buy a high quality one and dose it lower. I used to think it's useless, but trying a good one made me change my stance.
I feel like most preworkouts out there are generally crap, though being biased I think gorilla mind and some of their products offer a proper dosage of ingredients alongside good caffeine dosages. Other than that nothing beats a good 8-10 hours of quality sleep imo
I've trained for years with and without pre workouts. Without doubt I train better, feel better and pumps are next level. I use alpha Lion Super Human supreme.
I used to take pre-work out before almost every workout. In hindsight it felt like a drug. Id crack myself out to get an incredible workout in. Now I just use black coffee and I’m glad I switched. Most supplements are a scam other than creatine and protein for the convenience.
About seven or eight years ago I used to eat or drink beets two or (preferably) three hours before the first working set. That seemed to have an affect. Those were the days.
L-Carnitine is not a pre-workout thing, but I like taking it before because I’ve noticed that it prevents me to feel the after workout soreness and pain it also boost ATP production on cells.
So, I'm 4'11" and my baseline 2 months ago was 100 lbs. 2 months into taking creatine, I now have an average weight of 104 lbs. I lift heavy with lower reps (4-9). I feel stronger and bigger without really having added fat (at least in my eyes). I still have 6 more pounds i wanna gain to be 110 lbs. I make my own protein/creatine shakes with 5 mg creatine monohydrate a day mixed with 1 scoop unsweetened unflavored greens/protein powder (22 g protein), 200 mL flax or soy milk, some caffeine (variable mix of cocoa powder, instant coffee, matcha), 1 tsp unsweetened protein butter, 1 tsp coconut oil, some ginger/cinnamon powder and agave or honey added to 600 mL water. I hate sweeteners because the aftertaste is gross to me and I don't have beef with the extra calories of sugar since I'm fairly active in general and tend to eat less than I should based on my energy levels by the end of the day. I drink half in the morning before my workout (I only work out in the morning), and drink the other half after/throughout the day.
Thats good stuff what you are doing. I would not increase the creatine as 5g is a great dose for women. I would add more meat or eggs to your diet, they are low calorie and pack on muscle over time.
a pre workout works great, it gets you energetic, but so does caffeine. however instead of chugging 3-4 energy drinks, taking preworkout is much better.
I've find pre-workout/stimulants counter productive... Less mind muscle connection, more supporting muscle groups to get weights up, and a numbing to the feeling your pulling, pushing, twisting something that's not meant to be... Leading to an injury.
I use green tea and ginseng. Ashwagandha at times. Matcha. Maybe some maca in my smoothie. Don't love mushroom powders long term. Keep it simple and healthy. Buy good herbs. I feel great. Make sure you cycle ginseng and all herbs correctly.
Never thought I needed pre workout until I started crashing at the start of leg day. Did some deep digging, hated all the options I saw on the market so I bought some bulk powders and blate papes and haven't looked back. Don't know how y'all do a cup of coffee before working out because the acid in that would tear me up if I tried that as a pre!
So here’s a question for you that I haven’t been able to find an answer to. I have ADHD and take amphetamines like Vyvanse daily to help me actually be a productive member of society. I tried a few pre workouts that had all the ingredients that everyone loves, well respected brands, Gorilla Mind, HTLT, etc. when I take them I can feel the tingly sensation but don’t feel anything else. I don’t get the feeling that they are actively helping in my workout in any sense. A lot of people swear by them and talk about the edge it gives them but I can’t feel shit. I’m just as strong and dedicated off as I am on. So my question is this. Are the pre workouts having the same effect as my ADHD medication? Insofar as they simply normalize me instead of boosting me up like they seem to do other people. I’ve not been able to find much studies involving the effects of pre workouts on ADHD people. I stopped buying them because the price was too much for any gain I wasn’t seeming to get.
Hey! Also have adhd and I'm a personal trainer and nutritionist so maybe I can shed some light. My guess is that your adhd medicine has down regulated some of the dopamine receptors. Another factor could be the "using up" of stored dopamine to where you need to produce more through nutrient intake (l-tyrosine to dopamine synthesis). (aka Adderall comedown) So overall your bodies sympathetic nervous system probably has some down regulation reducing any "feeling" of an improved workout. The non psychoactive ingredients will still work (creatine, beta alanine, l-citrulline) but like he says in the video the caffeine is responsible for that "feeling" of an improvement. I would be careful regarding combining some of these ingredients with your meds as there are quite a few interactions. Your medicine also causes vasocontriction which reduces performance so if it is in your system during a workout you could be experiencing lowered blood flow. Many factors, I hope this helps and sheds some light on it! If you have any questions feel free to reply Edit: to add to the point that the non psychoactive ingredients are most likely still working is the fact that you feel the tingly sensation brought about from the beta alanine
@@B27397 That pre-workout is pretty typical but they do disclose all the ingredients (no prop blends) which means a lot. You can ignore the vitamins in all pre-workout as they are mainly label fluff. The pre-workout is underdosed on a couple things like Beta Alanine and L-citrulline but is far from the worst I've seen. The best pre-workout with the actual clinical doses I've seen has got to be Gorilla Mode, a little pricier but everything in it has its purpose and at an efficacious dose
I think taking pre workout regularly is totally fine. Most lifters also take creatine regularly. There are also a number of brands that sell caffeine free pre workout! Taking pre workout in a healthy way before a workout is totally legitimate!
I take it 100% for the placebo effect, having that taste and know it's time to put in some work is a good enough incentive for me, even if it is borderline pointless - the brain knows what time it is 😅
A decent libido booster with a side effect of fat burning. Will create higher blood pressure however (take before a physical and have your doctor look at you with strange glares despite appearing healthy, lol)… regardless, it’s valuable if already lean, as with other fat burners (Bitter Orange, EGCGs, etc). Maybe a 5% difference. Taken consistently when lean plus lower carbs can really reveal abs, but it has similar crashes to caffeine after a while.
I got hooked on caffeine free pre-workout not because of any noticeable enhancement, but because that flavorrrr. Straight up watermelon flavored crack powder. Pump surge yummmnm
I typically buy 90% of my supplements in a drug store, it's much cheaper than buying in a body building shop, the only supplement I buy there is creatine, because n/a elsewhere.i typically buy single ingredient supplements (2 ingredients tops) without any flavors. The only pre-work-out I take is a big nice cup of black coffee 20 minutes before I walk to the gym (about 45 minutes before the actual workout)
You left out a few key things offered by pre workout. Some ingredients in pre workouts offer a boost in mood and focus. That’s the main reason I take it before every single workout. If I can get 100% locked in and focused for a workout, the quality of my workouts are so much better and resulting in more gains in the long run. While a lot of pre workout brands don’t offer a high enough dosage in these ingredients to be effective, finding a brand that does makes a huge difference. Therefore I really recommend pre workout. Just my option however. The rest of the stuff in the video I agree with
I like this video, but I think it is quite tough to say never to use a pre-workout. Depending on the preworkout and the synergistic effects of the ingredients, it can really help(Brand Depending). It does depend on your goals, mindset, and nutrition though. But nutrition can't do everything if you want that extra step. For focus components alone, a pre can be very beneficial. This is my experience with it for 17 years and as a strength coach. Again, goal depending.
PW with DMAA or DMHA or both are realy powerfull.. I used to take Mesomorph v3 and v4, Angel Dust, Omerta and Crack gold edition and it hit like a truck.
4:10, Maybe you could do a video on some of the less known pre-workout ingredients like Eria Jarensis (The new "natural source" of DMAA), or other similar ingredients
Just be picky about the pre workout you take. Plenty of research out there on pre workouts that do something and ones that do nothing. And just remember it's a SUPPLEMENT. That's the key word. It does not take the place of proper diet and nutrition proper rest and a good workout plan. It can help augment good habits it doesn't take the place of them
I did a crappy little study about pre workout and strength for a science project. Definitely did not effect strength, I just like the pump and energy, my current fav pre is Raw Pre, I take it at night so I like the low caffeine
True :D Also I had a massive diarrhea when I took these stuffs because of a ton of artificial sweeteners and 300mg caffein.. My go to preworkout is a small cup of black coffee and citrulline-malate water with a little of baking soda. It has basically no price compared to pre workouts and way more effective for me. Thanks :D
Preworkouts like to put in creatine because people know it's good, even though it doesn't do anything short term like a preworkout is meant to help you with.
Well the thing about cafein alone is that it is a vasoconsrictor. You want something that will dilate the blood vessels when weight lifting to increase blood flow into the muscles. Of course, many compagnies will underdose the compound of their products but plenty good preworkout that are worth the investment on the market. HDMuscle, Revolution Nutrition, Gorilla mind, HTLT etc... Preworkouts are definitly NOT mendatory but can help a lot.
Caffeine is undoubtebly helpful. Preworkout is cheaper than a cup of coffee at dunkin donuts and tastes different/better. Also you can take it with you when you go to the gym direct from work/school etc
Most pres on Amazon and at retail stores are trash but there are pres online that make weights feel like feathers, can wake you up from the dead, send you to the heart attack city or make you feel high and motivated depending what you’re looking for
I workout everyday and pre-workout makes me gain energy and helps with increased duration of energy during a workout so I'll keep using it regardless of cartoon man's opinion. Cartoon man is small.
Benefits of preworkout vs coffee: 1.tastes different/better. 2.more quantifiable caffeine amounts. 3.faster to drink then coffee 4. Placebo effect (this is huge!!). if you believe its true!! IN todays market its not that expensive either..
Look, if you know what you're looking for in terms of ingredients and efficacious dosages, you can find quite a few decent pre workouts. I recommend looking at more plates more dates channel for breakdowns of different preworkouts and their ingredients
PictureFit has such a lovely and relaxing voice. Idk but does anyone agree with this? Every time I watch one of his videos his voice makes me feel more chill
I like pre workouts because i exercise home and sometimes not motivatedcto work out so i drink my pre work out...now im forced to get my and workout ....and enjoy the feeling it gives me as well...idk worth it for me
I have adhd. My brain is always on a sugar high. Im shocked that i found something that actually wakes me up without putting me to sleep. I get so hyper off c4 prework out, that i cant concentrate. I heard c4 isnt even the best one.
The reason i buy preworkout is because its cheaper than caffeine from where I live. I would need 4 teaspoon of caffeine to feel the same from a preworkout everyday and my preworkout cost $10 for 1month(pretty cheap) compared to spending $5 per bottle of caffeine which finishes in 4-5 days
I'm mostly trained without taking any PWO or any caffeinated beverage.. I'm only taking it on my leg day as it is the most exhausting day for me than any other day
Bulk buying the raw ingredients proves cheap and I get this for around £0.25 per serving (cheaper than a McDonald's coffee) Caffeine 300mg Glycerol Mono 5.0g Beta A 4.0g Citrulline Malate 4.0g Flavoured Bcaa 2.5g Creatine mono 2.5g AAKG 2.0g Taurine 1.0g
I dont really feel the preworkout working. Been drinking soda (coke zero and pepsi max) most days of the week, so I dont really feel the caffeine anymore.
Brother, pre workouts can definitely improve performance. And they do. Don't make you superman though. No good pre workout has BCAAs, rarely creatine. I feel like beta alanine is mostly includes for the tickling effect it gives, because it makes people feel an effect. No respectful pre workout company includes a proprietary blend either. Blueberry flavour is meh. You can play around with caffeine like mixing it with a beta blocker like theanine or making it not only caffeine anhydrous but also dicaffeine malate. There are also other stimulating substances that can be included in a pre-workout like theobromine, yohimbine, etc.
Honestly I drink coffee and take creatine daily. So I bought some citrulline and beta alanine a while back. Took em for ... A couple of weeks. Then it became a chore
The beet increases nitric oxide whereas the Citruline dilates improves plasma and improves recyling but more or less one can do one job (beet) whereas the Citruline does many.. I think they add it because it sounds good and they can justify an upmarket product
A really good one is ON pre advanced, and since I get up really early to workout it really helps me to workout hard so I believe it matters on the circumstance and don't agree with pre bashing .
Shall we choose violence on the fitness supplement industry?
Maybe only on the ones who lie about effectiveness
It would have to be on the whole supplement industry then and that’s a bit counter productive I believe
Yes please
Definitely towards those who really push the BS onto us.
Yes sir
Nothing compares to going into a workout having had enough sleep and proper nutrition.
@Cthulhu why is this?
Imagine having enough sleep, proper nutrition AND some pre workout
@@zMxtionzz
Not totally against it, but you shouldn’t make every workout a stim fest. Especially if you workout most days of the week.
Try saying that while working in construction for 10hrs+ a day lol
Facts
I buy bulk of the follow ingredients and take the maximum effective dose of each:
- Creatine Monohydrate
- L-Citrulline
- Caffeine
- Glycerol Monostearate
- Beta Alanine
By doing this, each dose is waaaaay cheaper than if there was a pre work that had all these ingredients and dosages.
Noted.
Scratch out Beta Alanine. Research has only showed benefits in its usage in sets lasting longer than 60 seconds. Useless for lifters
@@ljot1 thats why i said useless for lifters and not useless for everyone
@@joshsmith2723 but I like the tingles…. :/
@@joshsmith2723 I kinda like the itch for psychological reasons, but I also do a lot of cardio so it’s not totally a waste. I believe it helps on protein synthesis as well.
It’s definitely not a must, and I have had some terrible pre workouts. But there are a select few that I have found to be substantially better than coffee. The most noticeable effect is the motivation to train and the ability to train for longer with these motivation. Whereas when I have just coffee alone the effects are still similar but just not as intense, even when matched in caffeine dose
What are your favourite PWOs? I’ve only tried ”The preworkout” from MP but I’m open for other brands.
@@tvaettis0653 here’s my top 4 based on your experience with pre workout:
- beginner (all black everything)
- intermediate (total war or mvPRE)
- advanced (alpha darkside onslaught)
If you are new to pre workout I’d advise against starting with onslaught, that one really is a crazy pre, yet to find a better one than that… and fairly unheard of relative to other brands
ignacio williamson alr, thanks! I’ll try the one for intermediate sometime then, as I’ve been working out consistently now for about half a year
@@tvaettis0653 nice keep it up. Of course only downside is tolerance over time, but main affects I notice with onslaught is that I’m able to workout at a higher intensity for longer, and the focus and energy is very noticeable… mix it with some salt and you’re on your way. Plus no beta alanine so no tingles
For me is the ritual alone. The mixing while getting ready ans blasting some tunes. The tingling sensation… now there is no skipping it. You have to go.
Thank you for making this video! I have heard only good things about Pre-workout but didn’t get it because I wanted an unbiased opinion. I just started watching your channel and I’m happy I did because I know that you only speak the truth on these topics and are super funny
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Imo PWO is a must to use but it ain’t the best worth of money sometimes just read what doses each one has
@@couscous3782 it absolutely is not a must. Not even close.
Also, you may feel you get a better workout with pre workout (compared to caffeine alone) just because of the placebo effect of taking something.
@@austinfreyrikrw6651 lol calm down thats like saying creatine doesn't work its just a placebo effect bro its not really doing anything , pre-workout is something you should do your research because what this video is talking about is a proprietary blend not every pre is like that. Do your own research dont just listen to a channel that's speaks on its own accord
I remember in ~2010 when pre workouts actually worked. Then they found out that they contained amphetamines etc.
Which ones had amphetamines?
@@BMGipe45 amphetamine like substances, I don't believe it was straight amphetamine Salts. Jack3d is one I remember getting banned
@@BMGipe45 old school pre workouts had DMAA, which definitely provided a crazy energy effect and euphoria feeling
@@BMGipe45 Pharma War ones like Alpha Mood Pump
@@BMGipe45 craze
I agree. I don't think it's a must, but as you said, it helps. I wake up at 3 to hit the gym on 5-6 hours of sleep and I can say that I do feel the difference in energy levels. If I could workout later during the day, I definitely would not need Pre-workout.
The only pre-workout that was worth it (it was liquid gold), was the original Craze. It had some synthetic amphetamine snuck in so yeah, it WORKED.
Want to work out at 200% energy for 3 hours straight and still want to do more? Want to lift so much weight that you finish your workout struggling with pink 5 pound dumbbells? Want to do that at 4am in the morning after waking up at 3:30 to drink it? Want to train again at 200% energy for another 3 hours straight at 5pm? 6 hours of working out a day? Want to do that 6 days a week?
The OG Craze allowed that. It did cause severe acid reflux from overtraining though.
OG Craze was the best pre work out ever. Way better than jack3d. The grape flavor tasted straight up like medication. I was up for two days once.
When I first started training over 10 years ago a couple of friends gave me some pre-Workouts and it would almost always result in me puking mid or post workout ( especially when doing deadlifts). Cup of coffee is all I need and even then only on some days.
I've been looking to Derek from MPMD for pre-workout. The guy is very knowledgeable on the stuff, and I've also learned a lot thanks to his content
I have it, it's great. And the shaker bottle you get with it is amazing
yeah gorrilla mode is a great pre workout 9/10
What was the summary of his advice?
@@mcseavers Hard to summarize a 1 hour youtube video that goes over everything included in pre-workouts, lol.
@@mcseavers Gorilla Mode Good 🦍
Pain💔 is the best preworkout
No better feeling than taking 2 scoops and going into the gym ready to run through a wall
This is some useful information considering I started working out like months weeks ago without any supplements😆I pretty much binge watched all of your videos alongside other youtubers, currently debating if I should use supplements or not.
Thanks for watching! Hope it helped.
IF you want to take supplements, Creatine Monohydrate and Whey Protein is all you need assuming you eat well and stay hydrated.
@@whysoserious8826 not really, theres lots of other suppliments that are benificial with little downside.
You should try pre and make your own opinion. Personally I use only creatine preworkout and protein. I'm not saying need it but squeezing in those 2 more reps per set is definitely worth it. If you decide to, don't buy anything that's "made for newbies" just buy a high quality one and dose it lower. I used to think it's useless, but trying a good one made me change my stance.
I feel like most preworkouts out there are generally crap, though being biased I think gorilla mind and some of their products offer a proper dosage of ingredients alongside good caffeine dosages. Other than that nothing beats a good 8-10 hours of quality sleep imo
i have heard of gorilla mind too. Are their pre’s actually effective?
gorilla mind is the best.
Brand also plays a role there. Try c4 let me know how that goes. That said, pre workouts are meant to be cycled as their effects go down over time.
I've trained for years with and without pre workouts. Without doubt I train better, feel better and pumps are next level. I use alpha Lion Super Human supreme.
Save ur money …. Just Get proper sleep .. proper food and maybe a coffee before you hit the gym ! Thank me later
Good advice. Thank you sir.
This is the way. But when taking coffee before a leg day please 💩 before work out. Just trust me on this point, ok. glhf.
you realize a coffee over time is the same if not more as buying scoops
After years of trying kinds of pre-workouts and whatnot, I found that all I need is some nice black coffee before the gym.
I used to take pre-work out before almost every workout. In hindsight it felt like a drug. Id crack myself out to get an incredible workout in. Now I just use black coffee and I’m glad I switched. Most supplements are a scam other than creatine and protein for the convenience.
I just notices the sun is always on the right side of the frame when casting shadows on the animations, sick details
Eagle eye!
About seven or eight years ago I used to eat or drink beets two or (preferably) three hours before the first working set. That seemed to have an affect. Those were the days.
L-Carnitine is not a pre-workout thing, but I like taking it before because I’ve noticed that it prevents me to feel the after workout soreness and pain it also boost ATP production on cells.
So, I'm 4'11" and my baseline 2 months ago was 100 lbs. 2 months into taking creatine, I now have an average weight of 104 lbs. I lift heavy with lower reps (4-9). I feel stronger and bigger without really having added fat (at least in my eyes). I still have 6 more pounds i wanna gain to be 110 lbs.
I make my own protein/creatine shakes with 5 mg creatine monohydrate a day mixed with 1 scoop unsweetened unflavored greens/protein powder (22 g protein), 200 mL flax or soy milk, some caffeine (variable mix of cocoa powder, instant coffee, matcha), 1 tsp unsweetened protein butter, 1 tsp coconut oil, some ginger/cinnamon powder and agave or honey added to 600 mL water. I hate sweeteners because the aftertaste is gross to me and I don't have beef with the extra calories of sugar since I'm fairly active in general and tend to eat less than I should based on my energy levels by the end of the day.
I drink half in the morning before my workout (I only work out in the morning), and drink the other half after/throughout the day.
Try 15grm of creatine..
@@madbio3409 bruh thats a lot for my shrimpy body lol. I'd be afraid to f up my liver.
Thats good stuff what you are doing. I would not increase the creatine as 5g is a great dose for women. I would add more meat or eggs to your diet, they are low calorie and pack on muscle over time.
@@curryascocarrasco4829glad you didn’t listen to that lost soul ur fine taking the 5g
a pre workout works great, it gets you energetic, but so does caffeine. however instead of chugging 3-4 energy drinks, taking preworkout is much better.
My pre workout contains deer antler extract. Best believe that’s crucial to my gains!
I've find pre-workout/stimulants counter productive... Less mind muscle connection, more supporting muscle groups to get weights up, and a numbing to the feeling your pulling, pushing, twisting something that's not meant to be... Leading to an injury.
I use green tea and ginseng. Ashwagandha at times. Matcha. Maybe some maca in my smoothie. Don't love mushroom powders long term. Keep it simple and healthy. Buy good herbs. I feel great. Make sure you cycle ginseng and all herbs correctly.
I make my own pre-work out. I combine caffeine Theanine and citrulline. I plan to add beta alanine soon.
Never thought I needed pre workout until I started crashing at the start of leg day. Did some deep digging, hated all the options I saw on the market so I bought some bulk powders and blate papes and haven't looked back.
Don't know how y'all do a cup of coffee before working out because the acid in that would tear me up if I tried that as a pre!
So here’s a question for you that I haven’t been able to find an answer to.
I have ADHD and take amphetamines like Vyvanse daily to help me actually be a productive member of society.
I tried a few pre workouts that had all the ingredients that everyone loves, well respected brands, Gorilla Mind, HTLT, etc. when I take them I can feel the tingly sensation but don’t feel anything else. I don’t get the feeling that they are actively helping in my workout in any sense. A lot of people swear by them and talk about the edge it gives them but I can’t feel shit. I’m just as strong and dedicated off as I am on.
So my question is this. Are the pre workouts having the same effect as my ADHD medication? Insofar as they simply normalize me instead of boosting me up like they seem to do other people.
I’ve not been able to find much studies involving the effects of pre workouts on ADHD people.
I stopped buying them because the price was too much for any gain I wasn’t seeming to get.
Hey! Also have adhd and I'm a personal trainer and nutritionist so maybe I can shed some light. My guess is that your adhd medicine has down regulated some of the dopamine receptors. Another factor could be the "using up" of stored dopamine to where you need to produce more through nutrient intake (l-tyrosine to dopamine synthesis). (aka Adderall comedown) So overall your bodies sympathetic nervous system probably has some down regulation reducing any "feeling" of an improved workout. The non psychoactive ingredients will still work (creatine, beta alanine, l-citrulline) but like he says in the video the caffeine is responsible for that "feeling" of an improvement. I would be careful regarding combining some of these ingredients with your meds as there are quite a few interactions. Your medicine also causes vasocontriction which reduces performance so if it is in your system during a workout you could be experiencing lowered blood flow. Many factors, I hope this helps and sheds some light on it! If you have any questions feel free to reply
Edit: to add to the point that the non psychoactive ingredients are most likely still working is the fact that you feel the tingly sensation brought about from the beta alanine
@@Martarts I have adhd and I have had one which is optimum nutrition gold but just doesn’t seem that good
@@B27397 That pre-workout is pretty typical but they do disclose all the ingredients (no prop blends) which means a lot. You can ignore the vitamins in all pre-workout as they are mainly label fluff. The pre-workout is underdosed on a couple things like Beta Alanine and L-citrulline but is far from the worst I've seen. The best pre-workout with the actual clinical doses I've seen has got to be Gorilla Mode, a little pricier but everything in it has its purpose and at an efficacious dose
I think taking pre workout regularly is totally fine. Most lifters also take creatine regularly. There are also a number of brands that sell caffeine free pre workout! Taking pre workout in a healthy way before a workout is totally legitimate!
I take it 100% for the placebo effect, having that taste and know it's time to put in some work is a good enough incentive for me, even if it is borderline pointless - the brain knows what time it is 😅
some pre workouts are like this, there are a few that are very transparent
Beta alanin makes you feel tingly. Well doesed i like the feeling, with citrulin and arginine you can mix your own simple pre-workout
You get used to it
as a daily gym goer
all your pre workout needs:
caffeine person to person based on dosage
l-citrulline 5-10grams
beta alanine at least 3grams
Could you make a video talking about yohimbine?
A decent libido booster with a side effect of fat burning. Will create higher blood pressure however (take before a physical and have your doctor look at you with strange glares despite appearing healthy, lol)… regardless, it’s valuable if already lean, as with other fat burners (Bitter Orange, EGCGs, etc). Maybe a 5% difference. Taken consistently when lean plus lower carbs can really reveal abs, but it has similar crashes to caffeine after a while.
It's a 10 minute drive to my gym n it 100% kicks in before I get there!
I bike trails for miles and can say just an L-Citrulline solo supplement and caffeine are a winner combo for pre physical activity.
I got hooked on caffeine free pre-workout not because of any noticeable enhancement, but because that flavorrrr. Straight up watermelon flavored crack powder. Pump surge yummmnm
Same but mine has caffeine and I'm a caffeine addict
I typically buy 90% of my supplements in a drug store, it's much cheaper than buying in a body building shop, the only supplement I buy there is creatine, because n/a elsewhere.i typically buy single ingredient supplements (2 ingredients tops) without any flavors. The only pre-work-out I take is a big nice cup of black coffee 20 minutes before I walk to the gym (about 45 minutes before the actual workout)
You left out a few key things offered by pre workout. Some ingredients in pre workouts offer a boost in mood and focus. That’s the main reason I take it before every single workout. If I can get 100% locked in and focused for a workout, the quality of my workouts are so much better and resulting in more gains in the long run. While a lot of pre workout brands don’t offer a high enough dosage in these ingredients to be effective, finding a brand that does makes a huge difference. Therefore I really recommend pre workout. Just my option however. The rest of the stuff in the video I agree with
thats why i mix my own with: beta alanine 8g, betaine 4g, citruline 8g , ecaa 8g, creatin hcl 3g, L-carnitine Tartrat 3g, l-arginin alpha-ketoglutarat 1.5g, taurine 3g and drink 2 esspresos
'Brings back Mufasa' with the sound effect had me laughing my a** off. :D
I love you're back!
A hot steaming coffee before a workout is just the best while staring at your garden
I only got some once to flavor my protein powder. 😋
They would only work if laced with caffeine or Green tea 🍵 same thing.
And the ad played half way through was for ON Pre workout. Haha, that was funny.
I took C4 pre workout to get focused. And it worked. For a couple of weeks until my body got used to it
LMAOO THE INTRO IS SO FUNNY
I´m really digging this new PictureFit style!
I like this video, but I think it is quite tough to say never to use a pre-workout. Depending on the preworkout and the synergistic effects of the ingredients, it can really help(Brand Depending). It does depend on your goals, mindset, and nutrition though. But nutrition can't do everything if you want that extra step. For focus components alone, a pre can be very beneficial. This is my experience with it for 17 years and as a strength coach. Again, goal depending.
PW with DMAA or DMHA or both are realy powerfull.. I used to take Mesomorph v3 and v4, Angel Dust, Omerta and Crack gold edition and it hit like a truck.
Same here lmao
4:10, Maybe you could do a video on some of the less known pre-workout ingredients like Eria Jarensis (The new "natural source" of DMAA), or other similar ingredients
I think these ingredients are too underground and not found in many (if any) of the mainstream general population pre-workouts
@@Loyaltyremain Probably but could still be interesting too see a video on
Just be picky about the pre workout you take. Plenty of research out there on pre workouts that do something and ones that do nothing. And just remember it's a SUPPLEMENT. That's the key word. It does not take the place of proper diet and nutrition proper rest and a good workout plan. It can help augment good habits it doesn't take the place of them
I did a crappy little study about pre workout and strength for a science project. Definitely did not effect strength, I just like the pump and energy, my current fav pre is Raw Pre, I take it at night so I like the low caffeine
I took Ryse ring pop for the test
True :D Also I had a massive diarrhea when I took these stuffs because of a ton of artificial sweeteners and 300mg caffein..
My go to preworkout is a small cup of black coffee and citrulline-malate water with a little of baking soda. It has basically no price compared to pre workouts and way more effective for me.
Thanks :D
Preworkouts like to put in creatine because people know it's good, even though it doesn't do anything short term like a preworkout is meant to help you with.
Those labels be lying. I take my pre-workout right after work. On my 11min drive to the gym it kicks in.
Pres were nuts back in the day. The original USP Labs Jacked 3d with 1-3 DMAA was insane. Sadly everything is nothing but caffeine anymore.
Ive seen ostarine in a pre and I was shook because people who have no idea are basically goin on a sarm cycle not knowing it.
Well the thing about cafein alone is that it is a vasoconsrictor. You want something that will dilate the blood vessels when weight lifting to increase blood flow into the muscles. Of course, many compagnies will underdose the compound of their products but plenty good preworkout that are worth the investment on the market. HDMuscle, Revolution Nutrition, Gorilla mind, HTLT etc... Preworkouts are definitly NOT mendatory but can help a lot.
Well explained, can you do a video or explain the benefits of DHEA
"Placebro" killed me. 🤣
Here is a TLDR, just buy a preworkout that has L-Citrulline, Beta-Alanine, Caffeine (dose dependent) and the optional Creatine.
"placebro" I love this ❤️
Look when I get itchy ik I gotta work out. Preworky gives me motivation
Yea, you dont need pre workout but if you know what your looking for the pump is not achievable without pre workout...
All I take is 1.5dl whey 80 mixed with 2 full spoons peanutbutter, 10g creatin, 1dl oasts and Milk. Morning and evning
Caffeine is undoubtebly helpful. Preworkout is cheaper than a cup of coffee at dunkin donuts and tastes different/better. Also you can take it with you when you go to the gym direct from work/school etc
I take it to be hyped during my workout
Most pres on Amazon and at retail stores are trash but there are pres online that make weights feel like feathers, can wake you up from the dead, send you to the heart attack city or make you feel high and motivated depending what you’re looking for
I workout everyday and pre-workout makes me gain energy and helps with increased duration of energy during a workout so I'll keep using it regardless of cartoon man's opinion. Cartoon man is small.
Benefits of preworkout vs coffee: 1.tastes different/better. 2.more quantifiable caffeine amounts. 3.faster to drink then coffee 4. Placebo effect (this is huge!!). if you believe its true!! IN todays market its not that expensive either..
Is it a better alternative of pwo if i take
- Beta-Alenine
- Caffeine
- Citrolline malate
HILARIOUS! and informative! I love you!
Look, if you know what you're looking for in terms of ingredients and efficacious dosages, you can find quite a few decent pre workouts. I recommend looking at more plates more dates channel for breakdowns of different preworkouts and their ingredients
PictureFit has such a lovely and relaxing voice. Idk but does anyone agree with this? Every time I watch one of his videos his voice makes me feel more chill
Haha thanks!
I like pre workouts because i exercise home and sometimes not motivatedcto work out so i drink my pre work out...now im forced to get my and workout ....and enjoy the feeling it gives me as well...idk worth it for me
I have adhd. My brain is always on a sugar high. Im shocked that i found something that actually wakes me up without putting me to sleep. I get so hyper off c4 prework out, that i cant concentrate. I heard c4 isnt even the best one.
this is true information for bad pre workouts, like BCAA or Beta alanine are not good pre work out ingredients, Creatine can be a good one tho
Creatine is great, doesn't need to be in a PWO
@@PictureFit for sure
it depends what lkind of preworkout you get edge of insanity works very well.psychotic works very well.
The reason i buy preworkout is because its cheaper than caffeine from where I live. I would need 4 teaspoon of caffeine to feel the same from a preworkout everyday and my preworkout cost $10 for 1month(pretty cheap) compared to spending $5 per bottle of caffeine which finishes in 4-5 days
What do you think about Sean nalewanyj's pre workout? If you somehow respond to this you're a legend.
I'm mostly trained without taking any PWO or any caffeinated beverage.. I'm only taking it on my leg day as it is the most exhausting day for me than any other day
Bulk buying the raw ingredients proves cheap and I get this for around £0.25 per serving (cheaper than a McDonald's coffee)
Caffeine 300mg
Glycerol Mono 5.0g
Beta A 4.0g
Citrulline Malate 4.0g
Flavoured Bcaa 2.5g
Creatine mono 2.5g
AAKG 2.0g
Taurine 1.0g
use EAA's it has bcaa plus alot more that you can't get from foods, if u eat enough protein in your diet u dont need bcaas
I have a basic pre w/ L-citrulinmalate/beta-alanin/ L-arginin + caffeine.
I dont really feel the preworkout working. Been drinking soda (coke zero and pepsi max) most days of the week, so I dont really feel the caffeine anymore.
Just coffee or Chai tea for me, I get jitters and itchy skin from pre workout. If I want BCAAs I'll take my vitamins and eat my daily take of fruits.
And creatine monohydrate
Brother, pre workouts can definitely improve performance. And they do. Don't make you superman though. No good pre workout has BCAAs, rarely creatine. I feel like beta alanine is mostly includes for the tickling effect it gives, because it makes people feel an effect.
No respectful pre workout company includes a proprietary blend either.
Blueberry flavour is meh.
You can play around with caffeine like mixing it with a beta blocker like theanine or making it not only caffeine anhydrous but also dicaffeine malate. There are also other stimulating substances that can be included in a pre-workout like theobromine, yohimbine, etc.
Honestly I drink coffee and take creatine daily. So I bought some citrulline and beta alanine a while back. Took em for ... A couple of weeks. Then it became a chore
What about preworkouts that are based on citruline and contain beetroot extract where both should boost the pump?
The beetroot does it in a different way
You have to research something called the Krebs cycle
The beet increases nitric oxide whereas the Citruline dilates improves plasma and improves recyling but more or less one can do one job (beet) whereas the Citruline does many.. I think they add it because it sounds good and they can justify an upmarket product
All I know is that if I take pre-workout before I workout I'm sore the next day unlike if I don't
I started using ghost preworkout and it hits
Mannn was taking pre workout for a month & my anxiety got so bad omg😭
Especially when they say “citruline Malate” but don’t include how much citruline it really is 🙃
What are the affects of caffeine on a workout if the person has ADHD? Caffeine tends to make that demographic tired/ sleepy, unless ingested in mass.
A really good one is ON pre advanced, and since I get up really early to workout it really helps me to workout hard so I believe it matters on the circumstance and don't agree with pre bashing .
I very like your work! I have been hearing more and more of the word preworkout recently, and you explained it to the dot
Hope it helped!
Best pre workout is black coffee and a rice Krispy treat
Every pre workout I've ever had just made me feel awful. Nobody needed pre-workout a decade ago. I just pretend the stuff doesn't exist.