@@John-ik1os The country would come to a stop. There isn't the charging infrastructure yet. It would be carnage if everyone went out tomorrow and bought an EV.
@@cgln8760 There'll be no electricity either although Gates is recommissioning Three Mile Island nuclear power plant, the 'need' to abandon fossil fuels is a sham and a scam.
I run a 15 year old diesel , don't usually get more than 40/50mpg on average per journey but I did drill the dpf out so I don't have to deal with that b*ll*cks
You're way greener than me, my 19 year old Landcruiser rarely does over 30mpg. But I shall be keeping it until it expires, and probably buying something fairly old to replace it.
I admire your resolve, and I agree that keeping older ICE cars running is the best thing not just for the planet but for the majority of motorists, too. But... But (with respect), would you be willing to pay an extra £22,000 a year in road tax to keep motoring in the manner you choose? Would you pay £15,000 a year for insurance? How about when they hike fuel prices to £26 a gallon? I'm sorry to say it, but they have ways of making you comply.😞
@@JT-nr2ss Because people need to travel to function. Public transport in this country barely works especially beyond urban areas. Even if it did, you would still need a car for certain journeys. A diverse approach to transportation is needed, not penalising one type.
@@JT-nr2sswhat do you do in life then walk around your estate and get food delivered by a van some people actually want to go out and explore the country they live in yes our fucking country not there’s literally get a bloody life
The used market needs people like him so people like myself can still pick up cheap gems. Let the 1st owner take the depreciation hit and pick up a bargain. Then sell it after 5-10k miles.
@audi_fan_man How can anyone enjoy driving back in the 80s, 90s, maybe 00s, but now it's just a pain in the arse crap roads high tax high fuel prices and everything else its crap just like this country.
@@SCARFACE-gp4fyyep. I used to go out in Sundays for a drive to a nice spot. Have a quick walk down the harbour, sit by the sea and then drive back. Just for the fun. Now there’s so much traffic in the roads you can get any fun. It’s all shitty SUVs trundling around. And don’t get me started on the bloody pot holes, I’ve had over £2,000 worth of damage to my various cars over the last couple of years and never been able to claim off the councils. I did 80k in my vw polo from new in 1985 and it never broke a spring. 2 back springs and one front spring on my other VWs. Broken dampers separately, bent wheels. And for this I get to pay >500 per year on road tax.
UK is but a pin prick on the global scale, our arrogant politicians think we are some kind of world power still and other countries take notice of us. Our drive towards net-zero is simply a joke. But they don’t care! Silly cow on BBC news tonight saying we must end all fossil fuel use…so back to horses and carts then? It’s all about money and control.
Yes - nobody wants the emissions from huge power stations to increase to make the electricity +don't mention the slave labour digging the lithium for batteries @@JT-nr2ss
@@JT-nr2ss A true blinkered response from the uneducated. Yes lower pollution is a good thing but our emissions are far lower than they were and vehicles are so efficient now, that it hardly registers. By all means switch to cleaner ways but do it in a way that doesn't ruin the economy and make us all considerably poorer with extortionate energy prices. Apart from that, making EV cars isn't environmentally friendly and all we are doing are cutting our emissions at the expense of ravaging and exploiting poorer countries and that isn't even mentioning that charging EV vehicles are not practical and that green energy is useless if it isn't windy or sunny.
Yup. Over 40% of uk houses can’t get a charger fitted. I mean we’re showering in bath tabs hoping not to slip while making sure no water falls on the floor made of wood. Then deciding between burning our hands with a hot tap or freezing it with a cold tap. All this while discussing evs and an ice car ban. I think a good reality check is in order. The average uk house has less floor space than japanese houses. And we get brought up thinking they live in tiny houses. Uk average floor space is also smaller than new york city average. Wow. I may be wrong on some of these. Might be wrong on all of them. Worth looking more into it if you’re interested. But the reality is a car that used to be £2000 5 years ago is £6000 now. If i worked in the private sector and messed up something one thousandth as much, my career would be over. Imagine lowering your company revenue by 300% and getting a promotion.
@@fredmercury1314 it was tongue in cheek. Explain how they will install enough charging infrastructure in Glasgow for the thousands of tenement and hundreds of high flats in the city?
@seanmaguire380 They won't. Working class people like us aren't entitled to own a car, in their vision for the future. They want us on Public Transport.
They should reduce car tax as a vehicle ages . The older it is the more environmentally friendly it becomes . It pays to keep things and not renew . If you renew then that just adds to more carbon to make it . Keep old cars going is what I’m saying
And new cars whether electric, hybrid, lower tax bracket still wear out the roads like our old cars. I drive an 07 Meriva and 04 x-trail. (p.s. I am not looking for sympathy!)
They look fo easy options to collect taxes where they can,and they know the car owners won't let their cars go at any price.SO TAX TAX TAX THEM THEY KNOW THEY WIL. PAY THAN GIVE UP THEIR CARS
I'm a retired low mileage driver, and have a 24 year old Jaguar with a 4.0ltr. supercharged V8. Cheap VED, cheap insurance, and even at 12mpg. round town, is still cheaper (and more convenient) than public transport. The reality is that public transport is too expensive and often inconvenient/unreliable.
Problem is that back in my day busses were many and often as well as cheap, and reliable ran all day till 11pm. Now privatised no one is interested due to poor service high prices.
So they’re effectively pricing Joe Average out of a pre 5 year old petrol/diesel and hybrid cars, yeah great idea more uninsured, untaxed cars on the road 🤦🏻♂️
I saw a post on this channel earlier that stated the police are arresting more and more young people driving uninsured now because they simply can't afford the cost.
@@jameshunter7181 it can be cheaper to just buy a runner with up to a year MOT and not bother with anything of tax or insurance, drive carefully, never park on the street, don't register the V5, let it be taken if they catch it somewhere, still cheaper than today's motoring costs, if you export it first, then it's no longer under DVLA for tax... or UK jurisdiction at all... give it's a fictional map area and not a country... a commercial construct as opposed to a real country, ie Britain, Ireland etc... they will take it, but they have problems prosecuting it...
Mine is 14 years old and just hit 150k today. I have the Sport so get 45 average and 55 on long runs. 550 miles to a tank. Best work horse car I've owned. If anything happens to her will be looking for another one.
are you a mechaic? if not thats a lie, between intake carbon, high pressure turbo issues, turbo changeover flap issues, exhaust camshaft issues, these engiens straight up cant make it past 100k without major work. now i am a mechanic, i have a pre-dpf bmw 530d, its got 315k miles on it, and I specailise in ev battery overhaul and cell replacement. ill continue rolling in my diesel bmw as its a smart move.
@denisohbrien no. The GH doesn't have the issues you are talking about. It's funny that 3 people in here all with same car and engine all 150k plus and all running strong.
They have to replace the barriers in the middle of motorways because electric cars are so heavy they go though them like butter. We all have to pay for this. They also cause more damage to roads like potholes..
Even if everyone switched to EVs overnight, the demand would only increase by around 10%, which is well within the grid's capacity. Biggest issue is not everyone can charge at home and until this happens, EV's will be a nightmare for many.
I will stick with my ace 20-year-old VW Golf 1.9 turbo diesel thanks. EVs will be dead and gone within 10 years. Next will be hydrogen, ammonia, or something else. We do not have the power generation capacity or the infrastructure to support this lunacy.
A business owner who earns million a year buys a brand New rolls royce for £100k, this is only 1 month's earning, but if a person on minimum living wages of £20k buys a brand new car for £20k, this is whole years wages wiped out, whole country should go on strike until they pay up
@@leemacdonald6533 80% businesses cheated and lied their way to success and they educated their siblings to cheat lie steel for success eton college is an example
I love how the government can't get their head around how the average Joe who can barley keep bills under control won't trade a perfectly good petrol/diesel in for a 30-50k EV that will plummet in value quicker than labour going back on its promises.
They (the government) are living in a different dimension. YOU WILL BE FORCED TO HAVE ONE after all they have killed off freedom of speech . The Stazi are in Westmister and they are coming for anyone who doesn't conform.
It's quite simple, don't buy new cars! If everybody went, f this I'm not buying a new car, what do you think will happen? So it's up to you public! Want to give labour a bloody nose! Don't buy new! 😊
Not to mention that an EV is 10k more expensive than an ICE vehicle. How is paying a few hundred quid less on EV tax going to make up for the thousands you wasted buying the EV.
You attracted the ev crackpots who forget we all have being paying in taxes for them and their cheap drives. And soon they will be paying up and hopefully way more in charging costs..
As someone who drives about 25000 miles a year, all over Scotland & sometimes tows a caravan while doing that an EV makes zero sense. With these increases in VED I will just have to continue buying 3yr old used diesels until there's none left. EVs are not the solution to the climate change problem.
15 year old VW Polo 1.2 with 145,000 miles. Still going well and 45mpg. 78 years old and it will be my last Car.......Just made it before Net-Zero madness!
Agreed sir….I’m almost 67 just bought a 2023 Volvo XC40 2 litre mild hybrid petrol ex demonstrator …that’ll do me. Mild hybrid technology is a gimmick by the way, gives me a bit of oomph apparently, not much use in 20 mph zones!!
My petrol car is now 28 years old, I have had it 18 years, how green as that. Not replacing every few years, no planet destroying toxic batteries. But the road tax is £345 a year !!
I would look at switching it. There is a really good sweet spot with the 2001- early 2017 cars that are still in the banded road tax. My daughter recently bought a 2015 Pug 309 estate with the 1.6 diesel engine. It delivers 70mpg and is £0 road tax. Cracking car for £4k. Will pay for itself in a couple of years. I have a similar age Merc E Class that is only £35 road tax and this big lump gets 55mpg. Older or newer cars seem to be hit hard but the right car of this age (not a 4x4) get very low tax rates and are so cheap to run but do not command higher prices.
@@johnminshell7595 A friend of mine sticks with 20+ year old cars and pays the road tax. But then the MOT comes along and other odd breakdowns and there goes £700. Our Pug 208 is now 10 years old and passed all 7 mots with no issues. All it has had in our 7 years owning is an odd service and about three washer pumps which I fit. That also is £0 road tax and about 70mpg. Yes anything can go wrong but the odds are stacked against the older ones. For cheap motoring I dont worry about the miles on it but dont go too old.
@ I had a big bill last year for suspension issues but the speed humps and pot holes are horrendous , that can happen on a new car I hit one pot hole half a wheel deep cost new Rear Shock Should be ok now for a few more years I change my oil every 4 000 the rest is bullet proof , well done with the Pug ! lol 😜
I will never be able to afford an electric vehicle. The life span of them because of malfunctioning battery cells and the no existent access to repair of these systems. (Example) if the vehicle is damaged and even the smallest damage to the battery cells the complete car is written off because no one repairs the battery packs and the replacement cost is more than the car is worth.
They may be crucifying ICE-powered vehicle drivers… but the plummeting depreciation of EVs still doesn’t balance the books. Either way, you drive, you lose!
It is a total joke, whatvthey think at this moment go all electric just is a big oh ffs no no. Self charging hybrids then yes. But where is all the money coming from for us to buy these overpriced all electric endless money pits. Sod right off, im sticking with my combustion car thank you
But your 5 year old Skoda does not produce the power of a sodding great power station… EVs aren’t for everyone’s lifestyle but that’s a poor argument. Unless of course you now decide to frame it as a joke?
@qasimmir7117 absolutely no joke cleverdick! Have fun when you have to put up with rolling power cuts because it's been a calm dull week! Get your head out of your arse and, research the figures....Leftie! 😂
But they always avoid answering questions on where all the additional electricity required to cover all the additional EVs. Likewise with all the additional houses they want built without any indication where all the electricity will come from as this will not be covered by solar and wind power.
From the 100s of turbines they are filling caithness with. What was once clean unspoiled Highland moors is now a forest of giant monstrosities that have done f.all to reduce local power bills. It would have been better, greener and far more benefit buy scrubbing the co2 out the air if they had filled all that space with trees, but then there is no money in doing that.
I don’t have a problem with electric vehicles if you do local journeys, and you can charge at home! … But this government does everything they can for those who live in London, whereas everyone else can go do one… Those of us who live in a rural area with poor and unreliable public transport links a vehicle is so important. But I’ll be dammed if I’m going to forced into an EL vehicle when I’ve got a perfectly good “and” economical car sat on my driveway
How is paying an extra £150, on top of say 35k for the car, going to make any difference to anyone. You're not going to care about a few hundred pounds when you've just dropped tens of thousands already.
This is per year for the smallest hybrid you can buy, likely the most economical too. Suppose govco needs a lot of extra cash for supporting the freeloa .. .. .. uh, voters they are allowing in.
@@jjefferyworboys8138 I am not tight but I do object to getting ripped off and would do my dam best to make sure I did not. You can happily pay all you want and none of us knows what money the other has but regardless of what I have , I earned it and no fucker is going to rip me off for it.
They will soon screw existing petrol and diesel cars by jacking up the VED rate, buy a horse and cart, refueled with hay overnight and compost as a bonus.
Just watch the huge increase drivers taking a chance and not bothering to pay the road tax. There are already millions of untaxed, uninsured cars on the road, many used by non-British drivers who don’t even have driving licenses.
Just admit it's tax to pollute, raising taxes on car usage doesn't lower pollution or car usage because most journeys will be made anyway, deliveries, work. You are just making money from people with no alternative. Any government intent on lowering pollution would invest in a low cost reliable public transport structure. Instead we have the rail network, over priced, over crowded, unreliable and designed for profit, then we have buses, just applied a whopping 50% increase to the minimum single fare
And I’ll still enjoy my three cars that are tax exempt, 2 V8s and a V6. Great budget for me with the freezing of fuel duty for another year. Even better news that EVs are being charged VED from next April
Unless I am taxed off the road or no petrol or diesel I will never buy an Electric car, it wasn’t that long ago when we were all told that Diesel was the way to go and manufacturers turned them out like no tomorrow as people did actually want them unlike Electric cars now.
Of course not. There is no Co2 in manufacture or disposal of an EV not to mention the potential hazardous waste. These vehicles and going to fix the climate and all the other issues all by themselves. EVs are great jump on the band wagon now. Hurry up.
The knock on effect of higher road taxation and cost of motoring. There will be people out there who will not he able to afford They ll skimp on car maintenance and even car insurance.
they'll then let prisoners out after serving only 30% of their sentence to make room for those that disagree with them to be jailed, as since July they did to 40%...
Just retired from a company where policy was for those entitled to a car pretty much had to choose a BEV. Due to the tax incentives most colleagues have gone for the most expensive, best performing cars on the choice list - who can blame them! Now having to purchase my own car, I've chosen an '18 plate 2.0L TDI Octavia Scout - love it.
Cranking up tax to "help drive the transition to EVs", if we all bought an EV tomorrow it would be carnage. The infrastructure isn't there. I wonder if any of this extra money will go towardss that? Will it bollox.
In my town of around 6500, there are 6 EV charge points, I also live in a tourist town where it can get to 30,000 visitors a day, so nearly 37000 people during the summer have the option of relying on 6 charge points, and the government wants people to take them up? what about those people who live in blocks of flats, or those with only on street parking or so many other variables which make owning an EV not viable currently. I mean this like every other hair-brained government scheme is so ill thought out. The used diesel/petrol market will soar again with people avoiding new ICE cars due to costs soaring, which will in turn lead to a downturn in manufacturing and probable loss in jobs
So basically then, this has just incentivised people to hold on to their old ICE cars, totally counterproductive. I am running a 2018 TTRS, £190 tax. The “luxury” car tax is an absolute joke too but should apply to EV’s if it has to exist.
Considering EV are generally higher in weight and cause more wear and tear on the road. They should be taxed the same. The government should be incentivising lower emissions not pushing the driver towards a particular tech.
Its a total non story, if you are wheeling a brand new car out on to the streets and prepared to lose thousands instantly, you can afford hundreds of pounds road tax. Evs should pay and should have been paying the most road tax as they wear the roads out more due to their weight. The story should be about people like me running an 07 plate Fiesta and already paying £320 per year road tax!!!
@@richardburns1287 Shows how screwed up the whole system is..I'm paying only 320 for an 8 year old 4.0 V8 twin turbo RS6, and if it was 6 months younger and a 17 plate I'd only be paying 180!
Buy an old car and if it's broken fix it. You'll get a better car for less money. Bit of a non-issue this. Too many Telegraph readers kicking about on car channels
I fully understand the need to reduce our carbon output, however as a petrol head driving a Mercedes AMG CLA35 the government and car manufacturers have not convinced the public. EV’s cost too much to buy, the range is insufficient. The whole journey of transition from combustion engine to EV should have been phased in the emphasis on hybrids first then full EV. By increasing VED on petrol cars does not make EV’s cheaper, they are far too expensive.
If you can afford to drop £30k PLUS on a new car that will be in the scrapyard in 10 years, then you really should NOT be complaining about a few extra quid in first year road tax. What a load of rubbish!
Growth down, interest rates up, borrowing up, national debt up, NI up, duty up, capital gains tax up, school fees up, stamp duty up, unemployment up, hiring down. Support for the party down, thank goodness.
Trying to force EV vehicles on everyone by taxing petrol and diesel cars but if that happens and we all buy EV cars there will be a massive amount of tax lost by the government so then they will pile tax on to EV cars and call it something else plus the price of electricity to charge these vehicles will sky rocket to cover the billions lost in petrol and diesel revenue each year.
@jamesmitchell9201 -- 100% correct. But most EV owners lack the ability to think more than one day into the future. Their critical thinking skills are that of a goldfish!
I'm one of those lucky souls whose cars benefit from free VED (41st year exemption from ULEZ charges too), in spite of this fact I'm in favour of road pricing. That way, the more you drive the more you pay, but also, by using a vehicle whose carbon footprint over those 41+ years is effectively lower than that of the manufacturing process for even split new vehicles with the highest recycled content. Proactive recycling. 👍
How is normal people going to afford an electric vehicle. To expensive, poor range, poor charging locations , 1 hr to charge your vehicle (what a joke) . Insurance costs more expensive.
100% agree ! They are making it harder to go already though ! Also as an ex electric network worker “hands on “ we do not have the network to even handle the current demand let alone charging cars ! But don’t worry, we’ve given Milliband 23 b to make everything green 😂
The VAT charged at the public chargers makes them effectively un usable. And if people dont use the public chargers because of this the whole idea of them doesn't work. Ive done 20k so far and never used a public charger.
its all about money -- nothing to do with CO2
Absolutely right...
C O !
Not CO2
Not c 0 2
With the amount of trees that are getting cut down the net zero is a scam.
It doesn’t matter what the government do, you can’t make someone buy something they don’t want.
But they can make someone not buy something they do want.
They don't _want_ you to drive an EV.
They want you to _stay home._
They can they done it with horses
Well said
@@fredmercury1314 Exactly!!!
I’m still buying a new petrol car before 2030. That should do me for life. F to EV.
Unless the government increase the duty on petrol and diesel to £20 per litre from 2030
@@John-ik1os The country would come to a stop. There isn't the charging infrastructure yet. It would be carnage if everyone went out tomorrow and bought an EV.
What if they massively increase road tax to all diesel and petrol cars next year or 2026?
@@cgln8760 There'll be no electricity either although Gates is recommissioning Three Mile Island nuclear power plant, the 'need' to abandon fossil fuels is a sham and a scam.
@@cgln8760 I also wonder what the national grid would do if 22 million cars were suddenly plugged in, I don't think that could cope either.
I run 10+ year old VAG euro 5 diesels and get 60+ mpg. No interest in replacing them with any of the current garbage.
I run a 15 year old diesel , don't usually get more than 40/50mpg on average per journey but I did drill the dpf out so I don't have to deal with that b*ll*cks
You're way greener than me, my 19 year old Landcruiser rarely does over 30mpg. But I shall be keeping it until it expires, and probably buying something fairly old to replace it.
I have a new jag ev.. amazing car but im100% with you... no one remote crashing your diesel unlike mine which coul just be turned off
A dystopia future indeed
I admire your resolve, and I agree that keeping older ICE cars running is the best thing not just for the planet but for the majority of motorists, too. But...
But (with respect), would you be willing to pay an extra £22,000 a year in road tax to keep motoring in the manner you choose? Would you pay £15,000 a year for insurance? How about when they hike fuel prices to £26 a gallon?
I'm sorry to say it, but they have ways of making you comply.😞
Ultimately, they don't want us driving at all!
I fail to see the problem with that
@@JT-nr2ssIf it's the same for everyone. But it won't be.
@@JT-nr2ss
Because people need to travel to function. Public transport in this country barely works especially beyond urban areas. Even if it did, you would still need a car for certain journeys. A diverse approach to transportation is needed, not penalising one type.
@@qasimmir7117 " you'll own nothing and be happy". You won't need a car in a " 15 minutes prison "
@@JT-nr2sswhat do you do in life then walk around your estate and get food delivered by a van some people actually want to go out and explore the country they live in yes our fucking country not there’s literally get a bloody life
2015 Golf Diesel Blue Motion DSG, 28000 miles only, perfect condition and 70 mpg on a long run. Why on earth would I consider an EV?
The used market needs people like him so people like myself can still pick up cheap gems. Let the 1st owner take the depreciation hit and pick up a bargain. Then sell it after 5-10k miles.
@audi_fan_man How can anyone enjoy driving back in the 80s, 90s, maybe 00s, but now it's just a pain in the arse crap roads high tax high fuel prices and everything else its crap just like this country.
Let me know when ur selling it please, i,m running a 2014 golf diesel with 320k on it , runs perfectly, even better since "cleaning" the dpf...
@@SCARFACE-gp4fyyep. I used to go out in Sundays for a drive to a nice spot. Have a quick walk down the harbour, sit by the sea and then drive back. Just for the fun.
Now there’s so much traffic in the roads you can get any fun. It’s all shitty SUVs trundling around.
And don’t get me started on the bloody pot holes, I’ve had over £2,000 worth of damage to my various cars over the last couple of years and never been able to claim off the councils.
I did 80k in my vw polo from new in 1985 and it never broke a spring. 2 back springs and one front spring on my other VWs. Broken dampers separately, bent wheels. And for this I get to pay >500 per year on road tax.
It’s called “ Highway Robbery “.
as the whole of the uk now produces less than 1 percent of the worlds emissions its stupid to even worry about things
Stand and deliver, your money or your life
UK is but a pin prick on the global scale, our arrogant politicians think we are some kind of world power still and other countries take notice of us. Our drive towards net-zero is simply a joke. But they don’t care! Silly cow on BBC news tonight saying we must end all fossil fuel use…so back to horses and carts then? It’s all about money and control.
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask when he was robbing people, Ms Reeves just stands there smiling!
😂😂😂
it's time for everyone to grow a pair, & say NO,
and then you will be a far right fascist and sent to Belmarsh.
The agenda is becoming more clear than ever...
Ah yes, i truly fear hearing birdsong and breathing air free from nitrous oxide
🤔
@@JT-nr2ss typical 🐏
Yes - nobody wants the emissions from huge power stations to increase to make the electricity +don't mention the slave labour digging the lithium for batteries @@JT-nr2ss
@@JT-nr2ss A true blinkered response from the uneducated. Yes lower pollution is a good thing but our emissions are far lower than they were and vehicles are so efficient now, that it hardly registers. By all means switch to cleaner ways but do it in a way that doesn't ruin the economy and make us all considerably poorer with extortionate energy prices. Apart from that, making EV cars isn't environmentally friendly and all we are doing are cutting our emissions at the expense of ravaging and exploiting poorer countries and that isn't even mentioning that charging EV vehicles are not practical and that green energy is useless if it isn't windy or sunny.
All they'll do is keep pushing, same with today's Supermarkets that don't want cash.
Only use the ones that accept cash and force them to do a U Turn. As long as everyone lets them get away with it they will.
@@jamesm875 💯👍
It's social engineering, and shhhh! We're not supposed to notice........
I’d never buy an EV as long as I live!
WE are not supposed to drive them anyway. Driving will be for our rulers only !
Me neither
I would need a very long extension lead
@@Redrighthand22my e expert has been a solid workhorse for the last 4 years, it’s been through some very deep floods as well!
@@Redrighthand22Proof, Mine has never gone wrong.
Vote for Commies...get insane economic policy's.
Commies? Lol
@@rajii9372 Red Tories.
Assuming we still believe that democracy exists. Rotten to the core
Not commies as such but corporate Technocrats, essentially fadcism, the state and caputal, which the Third R. was not.
You guys are all on drugs
I genuinely despise living in my own country, if I could afford to leave I would.
I totally agree with you. I have applied for a green card for me and my family through the green card lottery.
@@cornelius9180if Trump gets in we’re off to Virginia.
Me too...but surviving a stroke in another country is pretty much put that idea to bed for me
Same here. Would move if it wasn’t for the 90 day rule
The grass looks greener from the other side.
✌️
I live in a 20 storey tower block, my extension cord is too short…
Buy a 3 mill house , prob solved mate !
😂
@@alanjones6359 will do… why didn’t I think that? There is always an easy solution to any problem!
Yup. Over 40% of uk houses can’t get a charger fitted. I mean we’re showering in bath tabs hoping not to slip while making sure no water falls on the floor made of wood. Then deciding between burning our hands with a hot tap or freezing it with a cold tap. All this while discussing evs and an ice car ban. I think a good reality check is in order. The average uk house has less floor space than japanese houses. And we get brought up thinking they live in tiny houses. Uk average floor space is also smaller than new york city average. Wow. I may be wrong on some of these. Might be wrong on all of them. Worth looking more into it if you’re interested. But the reality is a car that used to be £2000 5 years ago is £6000 now. If i worked in the private sector and messed up something one thousandth as much, my career would be over. Imagine lowering your company revenue by 300% and getting a promotion.
Screw EVs. Just another tax on drivers. EVs are horrible. Try finding a public charger for an EV in the Highlands.
Charging an EV Is a waste of time, the only option is battery swapping moving forward with the EV
Try finding one outside the high flats in the valley. Screw fix don't do an extension long enough to reach from the 23rd floor...
@@seanmaguire380 If they did, you'd find out that's illegal.
@@fredmercury1314 it was tongue in cheek. Explain how they will install enough charging infrastructure in Glasgow for the thousands of tenement and hundreds of high flats in the city?
@seanmaguire380
They won't. Working class people like us aren't entitled to own a car, in their vision for the future.
They want us on Public Transport.
They should reduce car tax as a vehicle ages . The older it is the more environmentally friendly it becomes . It pays to keep things and not renew . If you renew then that just adds to more carbon to make it . Keep old cars going is what I’m saying
Old cars are tax exempt, but they’ll get round to that soon.
And new cars whether electric, hybrid, lower tax bracket still wear out the roads like our old cars. I drive an 07 Meriva and 04 x-trail. (p.s. I am not looking for sympathy!)
@@philipbrackpool-bk1bm yes only the old ICE cars
They look fo easy options to collect taxes where they can,and they know the car owners won't let their cars go at any price.SO TAX TAX TAX THEM THEY KNOW THEY WIL. PAY THAN GIVE UP THEIR CARS
Carbon isn't a pollutant. Keep repeating that until it registers in that tiny brain of yours.
This government seems to think taxation generates wealth, it's like people who are overdrawn paying it off by getting another credit card.
That, my friend is labour. What they have always done
I'm a retired low mileage driver, and have a 24 year old Jaguar with a 4.0ltr. supercharged V8. Cheap VED, cheap insurance, and even at 12mpg. round town, is still cheaper (and more convenient) than public transport. The reality is that public transport is too expensive and often inconvenient/unreliable.
good on you i like your style, and its your pride and joy with sentimental character, fair play,keep it going🙂🙂👍👍
Problem is that back in my day busses were many and often as well as cheap, and reliable ran all day till 11pm.
Now privatised no one is interested due to poor service high prices.
So they’re effectively pricing Joe Average out of a pre 5 year old petrol/diesel and hybrid cars, yeah great idea more uninsured, untaxed cars on the road 🤦🏻♂️
I saw a post on this channel earlier that stated the police are arresting more and more young people driving uninsured now because they simply can't afford the cost.
@@jameshunter7181 They probably can't afford the fines given either!
@@jameshunter7181 it can be cheaper to just buy a runner with up to a year MOT and not bother with anything of tax or insurance, drive carefully, never park on the street, don't register the V5, let it be taken if they catch it somewhere, still cheaper than today's motoring costs, if you export it first, then it's no longer under DVLA for tax... or UK jurisdiction at all... give it's a fictional map area and not a country... a commercial construct as opposed to a real country, ie Britain, Ireland etc... they will take it, but they have problems prosecuting it...
IF YOU VOTED LABOUR YOU VOTED FOR THIS......... well done.
I voted Reform. Saddened by this BS.
If u voted for anyone u voted 4 this
@@smokedoggbaby953unfortunately that’s true. They all dance to the WEF tune. Reform I would hope wouldn’t.
@@FleetingDream755😂
Really? So, just what do you think would happen if eveyone voted for thr GREEN party? You are so funny...
WEF dont want you driving at all. Remember, they are going to create 15 minutes cities you wont need a car.
Like to see one created on the Isle of Skye. Utter Bullshit !!.
My mazda 6 deisel 2.2 15 years old 65 to the gallon on motorway on 300k miles still working perfect why bother with this hybrid ev sham
Mine is 14 years old and just hit 150k today. I have the Sport so get 45 average and 55 on long runs. 550 miles to a tank. Best work horse car I've owned. If anything happens to her will be looking for another one.
Ts2 I have one aswell 150k drives like a dream 2.2td 185bhp I get 50+ no problem
are you a mechaic? if not thats a lie, between intake carbon, high pressure turbo issues, turbo changeover flap issues, exhaust camshaft issues, these engiens straight up cant make it past 100k without major work. now i am a mechanic, i have a pre-dpf bmw 530d, its got 315k miles on it, and I specailise in ev battery overhaul and cell replacement. ill continue rolling in my diesel bmw as its a smart move.
@denisohbrien no. The GH doesn't have the issues you are talking about. It's funny that 3 people in here all with same car and engine all 150k plus and all running strong.
@@seanmaguire380 apologies did think about the pre-skyactiv stuff after I posted. (The R2 and RF engines)
If everyone had an electric car the country would be fucked
The country is already fucked
That wont happen the whole idea is NO cars.
They have to replace the barriers in the middle of motorways because electric cars are so heavy they go though them like butter. We all have to pay for this. They also cause more damage to roads like potholes..
@@user-jn7pl3ofu Barriers are designed to stop 38 tonne lorries, so a 2 tonne car, whether EV or SUV shoulnd't be a problem.
Even if everyone switched to EVs overnight, the demand would only increase by around 10%, which is well within the grid's capacity. Biggest issue is not everyone can charge at home and until this happens, EV's will be a nightmare for many.
I will stick with my ace 20-year-old VW Golf 1.9 turbo diesel thanks. EVs will be dead and gone within 10 years. Next will be hydrogen, ammonia, or something else. We do not have the power generation capacity or the infrastructure to support this lunacy.
A business owner who earns million a year buys a brand New rolls royce for £100k, this is only 1 month's earning, but if a person on minimum living wages of £20k buys a brand new car for £20k, this is whole years wages wiped out, whole country should go on strike until they pay up
Or you could educated yourself and work hard to create a successful business.
@@audi_fan_man buses,ha ha . My 15 minute car commute would take 90 minutes and two buses
@@leemacdonald6533 80% businesses cheated and lied their way to success and they educated their siblings to cheat lie steel for success eton college is an example
Well said and true 👍
You are very out of touch the cheapest Rolls, with a few extras is £300k
I love how the government can't get their head around how the average Joe who can barley keep bills under control won't trade a perfectly good petrol/diesel in for a 30-50k EV that will plummet in value quicker than labour going back on its promises.
They (the government) are living in a different dimension. YOU WILL BE FORCED TO HAVE ONE after all they have killed off freedom of speech . The Stazi are in Westmister and they are coming for anyone who doesn't conform.
It's quite simple, don't buy new cars! If everybody went, f this I'm not buying a new car, what do you think will happen? So it's up to you public! Want to give labour a bloody nose! Don't buy new! 😊
Second hand market would go up in price, which is ok... already old diesel Volvos are rising in price, not falling...
Not to mention that an EV is 10k more expensive than an ICE vehicle.
How is paying a few hundred quid less on EV tax going to make up for the thousands you wasted buying the EV.
Paying 2p a mile for electric saves a few quid
@@chrishart8548
For those who can charge at home.
How much is public charging?
@@chrishart8548 not paying £10k up front means you can drive thousands of miles for nothing.....
You attracted the ev crackpots who forget we all have being paying in taxes for them and their cheap drives. And soon they will be paying up and hopefully way more in charging costs..
@@chrishart8548 Only if you are able to charge at home. Most of us can't.
As someone who drives about 25000 miles a year, all over Scotland & sometimes tows a caravan while doing that an EV makes zero sense. With these increases in VED I will just have to continue buying 3yr old used diesels until there's none left. EVs are not the solution to the climate change problem.
If you offered me an EV for free I would decline,
I would take one for free but only to sell it on immediately , there’s always a buyer in a uni town 🤣🤣👎
That’s daft. Sell the thing straight away and make some good money.
@@qasimmir7117 Haha you might sell it eventually but there is no demand!
@@briankerr6333 The intelligent move, good idea
Missing out, I love my EV.
It’s absolute madness ….sick of this government ….
Correct get them before the ruin everything remember these mp.s can afford it not all people can charge at home joke
15 year old VW Polo 1.2 with 145,000 miles. Still going well and 45mpg. 78 years old and it will be my last Car.......Just made it before Net-Zero madness!
Agreed sir….I’m almost 67 just bought a 2023 Volvo XC40 2 litre mild hybrid petrol ex demonstrator …that’ll do me. Mild hybrid technology is a gimmick by the way, gives me a bit of oomph apparently, not much use in 20 mph zones!!
@@johndawson5718I am 62. Imagine they have made us look forward to dying.
The bastards have indeed 😂😂
They can stick their EV's where the sun don't shine! This Government are so stupid they will ruin the car industry totally!
They already have....😊
And with no car industry, no means of transportation, no jobs, out of control inflation, increased crime, suicide………. We should all move to France😂
That`s the plan. Why would you need a car in your 15 min ghetto!
It's not stupidity, it's all by design. It's all to do with money, power, and control
That's the idea. No more private cars for the plebs
My sierra XR4i hits 40 this year. Tax and MOT exempt and ULEZ complient. Oh and fully comp for 60 quid. Sod this new crap.
Oh, nice car. In black?
A £60 insurance policy ?
I’m calling BULLSHIT on that 😂
wow i remember them in the 80s, and then the cozzie 500s??? they were quick 😛😛
£60 quid insurance, where do you live?
I will not be forced to buy an ev
My petrol car is now 28 years old, I have had it 18 years, how green as that. Not replacing every few years, no planet destroying toxic batteries. But the road tax is £345 a year !!
When i see what comes out the back of the 28 yr old cars in my area, it stops me caring about what that driver is paying
F*** pollution
I would look at switching it. There is a really good sweet spot with the 2001- early 2017 cars that are still in the banded road tax. My daughter recently bought a 2015 Pug 309 estate with the 1.6 diesel engine. It delivers 70mpg and is £0 road tax. Cracking car for £4k. Will pay for itself in a couple of years.
I have a similar age Merc E Class that is only £35 road tax and this big lump gets 55mpg.
Older or newer cars seem to be hit hard but the right car of this age (not a 4x4) get very low tax rates and are so cheap to run but do not command higher prices.
It’s still better to pay the road tax and keep it in tip top Nic
@@johnminshell7595 A friend of mine sticks with 20+ year old cars and pays the road tax. But then the MOT comes along and other odd breakdowns and there goes £700.
Our Pug 208 is now 10 years old and passed all 7 mots with no issues. All it has had in our 7 years owning is an odd service and about three washer pumps which I fit. That also is £0 road tax and about 70mpg.
Yes anything can go wrong but the odds are stacked against the older ones. For cheap motoring I dont worry about the miles on it but dont go too old.
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I had a big bill last year for suspension issues but the speed humps and pot holes are horrendous , that can happen on a new car I hit one pot hole half a wheel deep cost new Rear Shock
Should be ok now for a few more years I change my oil every 4 000 the rest is bullet proof , well done with the Pug ! lol 😜
Last time I looked, this is a tax raise for the “working person”. I can’t afford to buy a new EV even if I wanted one.
I will never be able to afford an electric vehicle. The life span of them because of malfunctioning battery cells and the no existent access to repair of these systems. (Example) if the vehicle is damaged and even the smallest damage to the battery cells the complete car is written off because no one repairs the battery packs and the replacement cost is more than the car is worth.
They may be crucifying ICE-powered vehicle drivers… but the plummeting depreciation of EVs still doesn’t balance the books. Either way, you drive, you lose!
That's exactly what they want, only the rich will be allowed cars
That’s knocked the arse out of new car sales🤦♂️
Thats the idea.
As much as it's a stupid policy if you're spending 30k or more on a new car a couple of hundred quid is neither here nor there.
It will still be cheaper for me to run my Hawkeye WRX STI than buy a new milk float.
Don’t buy a new car problem solved
No doubt the bent MPs will claim it back on expenses.
None of this is for th3 ecosystem... just an extra tax on everything to help pay for migrants
Nothing to do with migrants. It’s to cover the lost revenue from overseas uni students
It is a total joke, whatvthey think at this moment go all electric just is a big oh ffs no no. Self charging hybrids then yes. But where is all the money coming from for us to buy these overpriced all electric endless money pits. Sod right off, im sticking with my combustion car thank you
Stick with it these changes don't make any difference unless you buy a brand new car.
I would argue a sodding great power station needed for EVs is polluting a lot more than my 5 year old skoda!
But your 5 year old Skoda does not produce the power of a sodding great power station…
EVs aren’t for everyone’s lifestyle but that’s a poor argument. Unless of course you now decide to frame it as a joke?
@qasimmir7117 absolutely no joke cleverdick! Have fun when you have to put up with rolling power cuts because it's been a calm dull week! Get your head out of your arse and, research the figures....Leftie! 😂
I will never sit my arse in a EV & will make sure the vehicle that takes me to my funeral is petrol or diesel
Now that is forward planning! Well said! And of course, Live long and prosper!
But they always avoid answering questions on where all the additional electricity required to cover all the additional EVs. Likewise with all the additional houses they want built without any indication where all the electricity will come from as this will not be covered by solar and wind power.
From the 100s of turbines they are filling caithness with. What was once clean unspoiled Highland moors is now a forest of giant monstrosities that have done f.all to reduce local power bills. It would have been better, greener and far more benefit buy scrubbing the co2 out the air if they had filled all that space with trees, but then there is no money in doing that.
another reason not to buy new
I don’t have a problem with electric vehicles if you do local journeys, and you can charge at home! … But this government does everything they can for those who live in London, whereas everyone else can go do one… Those of us who live in a rural area with poor and unreliable public transport links a vehicle is so important. But I’ll be dammed if I’m going to forced into an EL vehicle when I’ve got a perfectly good “and” economical car sat on my driveway
How is paying an extra £150, on top of say 35k for the car, going to make any difference to anyone.
You're not going to care about a few hundred pounds when you've just dropped tens of thousands already.
Precisely, this is really a non-story.
It was this or fuel duty. Fuel duty would have been far more expensive. Be glad that's frozen.
it's a lot of money, and it is only the beginning
This is per year for the smallest hybrid you can buy, likely the most economical too.
Suppose govco needs a lot of extra cash for supporting the freeloa .. .. .. uh, voters they are allowing in.
Buy a new car then put it on SORN for the first year and still run about in your old one. Sorted.
That is a really good idea. I didn’t even think of that. Quality.
Why bother at all if you are that tight ?
@@jjefferyworboys8138 I am not tight but I do object to getting ripped off and would do my dam best to make sure I did not. You can happily pay all you want and none of us knows what money the other has but regardless of what I have , I earned it and no fucker is going to rip me off for it.
Atmosphere..Nitrogen,78%:Oxygen,21%:Argon,0.9%:=99.9%..CO2,Methane,etc=0.1%!
It’s simple really. Just don’t buy a new car and extend the lif3 of your current one by efficient servicing and not manufacturer servicing intervals.
They will soon screw existing petrol and diesel cars by jacking up the VED rate, buy a horse and cart, refueled with hay overnight and compost as a bonus.
Haulage firms take a hit, again. Higher prices on the shelves..... fuel and tax that goes up, the cost is passed onto the customer.
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Did hear any thing on HGV
@@johnowen7061 Are you seriously that d um?
You need to put diesel in a lorry.
Please don't have children you're not equipped.
@@johnowen7061 Are you for real..........you need to put fuel in a lorry.
Just watch the huge increase drivers taking a chance and not bothering to pay the road tax. There are already millions of untaxed, uninsured cars on the road, many used by non-British drivers who don’t even have driving licenses.
There will be a rush to buy reliable older petrol and diesel cars. EV’s are way too expensive and we don’t want them.
Just admit it's tax to pollute, raising taxes on car usage doesn't lower pollution or car usage because most journeys will be made anyway, deliveries, work. You are just making money from people with no alternative. Any government intent on lowering pollution would invest in a low cost reliable public transport structure. Instead we have the rail network, over priced, over crowded, unreliable and designed for profit, then we have buses, just applied a whopping 50% increase to the minimum single fare
I ran an EV for 18mth it was hell.I will never have another one.
Pray tell sir…I’d like to know what you experienced.
And I’ll still enjoy my three cars that are tax exempt, 2 V8s and a V6. Great budget for me with the freezing of fuel duty for another year. Even better news that EVs are being charged VED from next April
Unless I am taxed off the road or no petrol or diesel I will never buy an Electric car, it wasn’t that long ago when we were all told that Diesel was the way to go and manufacturers turned them out like no tomorrow as people did actually want them unlike Electric cars now.
Ok I'll just keep what I've got then, still wont buy an ev.
Might want to lose the Ukraine picture first.
@Philbert72 nope
@@Beorn. So Woke so stupid.
Frightening
I will never ever buy an EV. A friend has one and it is rubbish, rather have a horse very good for the rhubarb, but then they fart too ! oh dear.
Was thinking to have a horse too but we’d probably be taxed every time they do fart 😂
We the poorest people can't afford an ev.they don't want us to have cars
Plus where I live there is no buses 😮
Why would you want an EV ?
"you will own nothing & will be happy" - Klaus Schwab of the WEF.
The bus problem strikes a bell with me.i have cancellations to deal with and am miles away from a town centre.
live within your means, if you can’t afford the tax get a smaller/older car and keep it longer, rather than trying to show off to next door.
Its only the first year. The dealer will probably knock this off the list price anyway if they want the sale.
Fair point.
If the EV was a viable solution, the government wouldnt need subsidies, mandates and legislation to force their sale.
Will keep my little old diesel car going as long as I can probably causing less harm than the manufacture of a new car and Battery aftermath
So, if it’s on CO2 output then shouldn’t EV’s pay it based on CO2 output in its manufacture when purchased?
Of course not. There is no Co2 in manufacture or disposal of an EV not to mention the potential hazardous waste.
These vehicles and going to fix the climate and all the other issues all by themselves.
EVs are great jump on the band wagon now.
Hurry up.
The knock on effect of higher road taxation and cost of motoring. There will be people out there who will not he able to afford
They ll skimp on car maintenance and even car insurance.
I say we all just riot about it
they'll then let prisoners out after serving only 30% of their sentence to make room for those that disagree with them to be jailed, as since July they did to 40%...
Just retired from a company where policy was for those entitled to a car pretty much had to choose a BEV. Due to the tax incentives most colleagues have gone for the most expensive, best performing cars on the choice list - who can blame them!
Now having to purchase my own car, I've chosen an '18 plate 2.0L TDI Octavia Scout - love it.
Cranking up tax to "help drive the transition to EVs", if we all bought an EV tomorrow it would be carnage. The infrastructure isn't there. I wonder if any of this extra money will go towardss that? Will it bollox.
In my town of around 6500, there are 6 EV charge points, I also live in a tourist town where it can get to 30,000 visitors a day, so nearly 37000 people during the summer have the option of relying on 6 charge points, and the government wants people to take them up? what about those people who live in blocks of flats, or those with only on street parking or so many other variables which make owning an EV not viable currently.
I mean this like every other hair-brained government scheme is so ill thought out.
The used diesel/petrol market will soar again with people avoiding new ICE cars due to costs soaring, which will in turn lead to a downturn in manufacturing and probable loss in jobs
I suddenly feel like I need PVC cladding
15 minutes is all you will be allowed.
So basically then, this has just incentivised people to hold on to their old ICE cars, totally counterproductive. I am running a 2018 TTRS, £190 tax. The “luxury” car tax is an absolute joke too but should apply to EV’s if it has to exist.
Considering EV are generally higher in weight and cause more wear and tear on the road. They should be taxed the same.
The government should be incentivising lower emissions not pushing the driver towards a particular tech.
The government could of gave ev buyers a room in a mental home that would be the best help for them
I’d ride a donkey before buy an EV.! There are garbage.
Its a total non story, if you are wheeling a brand new car out on to the streets and prepared to lose thousands instantly, you can afford hundreds of pounds road tax.
Evs should pay and should have been paying the most road tax as they wear the roads out more due to their weight.
The story should be about people like me running an 07 plate Fiesta and already paying £320 per year road tax!!!
It's now £335........
@@richardburns1287 Shows how screwed up the whole system is..I'm paying only 320 for an 8 year old 4.0 V8 twin turbo RS6, and if it was 6 months younger and a 17 plate I'd only be paying 180!
Wow, EVs don't wear the roads down. Even though they weigh 2 tones. Hey, technology today is AMAZING!. They DEFINITELY shouldn't pay tax ey.
No, eat no heat, no fly, no drive.
Eat but eat insects instead.
Drive without road tax saves a lot of cash risk of getting caught only 22%
Buy an old car and if it's broken fix it. You'll get a better car for less money.
Bit of a non-issue this.
Too many Telegraph readers kicking about on car channels
Yep most issues you can fix yourself in a few hours
Dont buy brand new cars
Being made to buy the crappy EV's, too expensive to buy, no one will buy it off you and in 8 years the battery will cost more than the car.
Never buying a milk float. No way.
I fully understand the need to reduce our carbon output, however as a petrol head driving a Mercedes AMG CLA35 the government and car manufacturers have not convinced the public. EV’s cost too much to buy, the range is insufficient. The whole journey of transition from combustion engine to EV should have been phased in the emphasis on hybrids first then full EV.
By increasing VED on petrol cars does not make EV’s cheaper, they are far too expensive.
If you can afford to drop £30k PLUS on a new car that will be in the scrapyard in 10 years, then you really should NOT be complaining about a few extra quid in first year road tax. What a load of rubbish!
Growth down, interest rates up, borrowing up, national debt up, NI up, duty up, capital gains tax up, school fees up, stamp duty up, unemployment up, hiring down.
Support for the party down, thank goodness.
What happens to tax on cars more than one year old. I saw somewhere that taxes on those will also double, but have not seen any hard info there.
Everyone just don't pay the tax, what can the government do?
Trying to force EV vehicles on everyone by taxing petrol and diesel cars but if that happens and we all buy EV cars there will be a massive amount of tax lost by the government so then they will pile tax on to EV cars and call it something else plus the price of electricity to charge these vehicles will sky rocket to cover the billions lost in petrol and diesel revenue each year.
@jamesmitchell9201 -- 100% correct. But most EV owners lack the ability to think more than one day into the future. Their critical thinking skills are that of a goldfish!
I'm one of those lucky souls whose cars benefit from free VED (41st year exemption from ULEZ charges too), in spite of this fact I'm in favour of road pricing. That way, the more you drive the more you pay, but also, by using a vehicle whose carbon footprint over those 41+ years is effectively lower than that of the manufacturing process for even split new vehicles with the highest recycled content. Proactive recycling. 👍
How is normal people going to afford an electric vehicle. To expensive, poor range, poor charging locations , 1 hr to charge your vehicle (what a joke) . Insurance costs more expensive.
100% agree ! They are making it harder to go already though ! Also as an ex electric network worker “hands on “ we do not have the network to even handle the current demand let alone charging cars ! But don’t worry, we’ve given Milliband 23 b to make everything green 😂
Only company buyers purchase EVs - private buyers don’t want them!
The VAT charged at the public chargers makes them effectively un usable. And if people dont use the public chargers because of this the whole idea of them doesn't work. Ive done 20k so far and never used a public charger.
But how can I inflate my precious Ego..with an old second hand car??..I need to be noticed so that others will envy Me,Me,Me!!