Catholicism : Ok dudes. I was wrong for the las millennium, just forget about all the carbonisation of heretics I did, now I have my stuff in order since I lost all my territories and capacity to make kings, but forget about that, I came out with a plausible explanation of why I am still the universal priest during Vatican 2 so keep following me cause now I have the fullness of the truth. (Not that I hadn't the fullness of the truth before despite it was another truth opposite the the current Truth.) Trust me bro.
Well obviously not now. It looks like Our Saviour didn't know what he was talking about, because it now seems that everyone regardless of belief, or even non belief, are all getting into Heaven. It's great we have the Pope to correct the mistakes made by the Son of God (and yes, I'm being sarcastic what he said was out-and out heresy).
Eternal life implies not just living forever but living forever in God's grace *like* God himself. But, how could it be? For... -God is spirit, we are not. We have a body, we are both spirit (soul) and body. -God is uncreated, we are not. -God has no beginning, we have; we are created by God. -God is love and to be honest we are not. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19) Part 2 So, how does God solve the dilemma? Right from the beginning God has already prepared the seed for that by creating us in his own image and likeness. (cf., Genesis 1:27) But by that it merely meant that like God, we are have free will and creative intelligence. That infinite gap of God being spirit and we have bodies, God being uncreated and is love... and we are not so are still there as an infinite chasm dividing us from God. But, can anything really separate us from the love of God who is also all wise and almighty? "Neither death nor life, nothing that exists, nothing still to come, not any power, not any height nor depth, nor any created thing can ever come between us and the love of God” (Romans 8:38-39). God solve the dilemma by taking on our human nature in Jesus Christ. In Jesus the Christ God has now both spirit and body like us. As Saint Athanasius puts it, the divine became human to enable the human to become divine. (cf., St Athanasius: On the Incarnation) Thus, "no one can come to the Father except through Me" for it is only through Jesus Christ, truly God and truly man, that a significant factor in that infinite chasm between God and us has been significantly, partly bridged. The other factors like being uncreated and eternal are also solved by the incarnation of God as Jesus Christ. For although by nature we are mere creatures and finite-- not eternal -- through our being incorporated into the Mystical/Cosmic Body of Christ through Baptism we could even, by grace, share in his uncreatedness and eternal nature. Thus John 15:5-6... " I am the vine, you are the branches. ... Anyone who does not remain in me ... withers." * Seems like all that God could do to bridge that awful chasm between between God and us to enable us to assimilate into God, to be one with the Father and the Son has been done in Jesus Christ through his divinity taking on our humanity and incorporating us into the Mystical Body of Christ.... So are we already like God now? No. Why? Because, and this is a very important and most significant factor, the essence of God is love and on our part love must be freely chosen or it is not love at all. And to be honest, we are not always that loving. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19) Yet God, ever willling to do his utmost to help us to share in his life, to be like him gives us his Holy Spirit -- the Spirit of the Father and the Son, the Spirit of Love -- it is up to us to respond or not. God generally won't force grace on us, we have to open our heart to his grace from within. The purpose of the Church, its Magisterium, Scriptures, Sacraments, preaching, etc is to help us to respond to his Holy Spirit. In short, through Jesus Christ all the major physical factors separating us from God have already been overcome, except for one. It is love, and for this we have to open our hearts from within. * But still the glaring facts remain that God is Creator, has no beginng and is infinite, but we are not. We are created, have a beginning and are finite. The dilemma is solved by incorporating us in Christ. We by ourselves are indeed created, finite and have a beginning but Christ is not. He is creator, uncreated and infinite. In Christ but only in Christ, we can truly share in the very nature of God (cf., John 1:1-4, 14:6, 15:5-6, Philippians 2:6-8, Colossians 1:15-20). John 17:21-26... 17:21... "May they all be one, just as, Father, you are in me and I am in you, so that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe it was you who sent me. 17:22... I have given them the glory you gave to me, that they may be one as we are one. 17:23... With me in them and you in me, may they be so perfected in unity that the world will recognise that it was you who sent me and that you have loved them as you have loved me. 17:24... Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, so that they may always see my glory which you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world. 17:25... Father, Upright One, the world has not known you, but I have known you, and these have known that you have sent me. 17:26... I have made your name known to them and will continue to make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them, and so that I may be in them. * But still, "God is love" and we are not always that loving. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19) This dilemma is solved by God filling us with his own Holy Spirit: "All who are guided by the Spirit of God are sons of God;... The Spirit himself joins with our spirit to bear witness that we are children of God." (Romans 8:14, 16) We have to open our heart to his Love in order to be fully assimilated into him for "God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God and God in him". "Look, I am standing at the door, knocking. If one of you hears me calling and opens the door, I will come in to share a meal at that person's side." (Revelation 3:20) * Galatians 5:16-25... 5:16... Instead, I tell you, be guided by the Spirit, and you will no longer yield to self-indulgence. 5:17... The desires of self-indulgence are always in opposition to the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are in opposition to self-indulgence: they are opposites, one against the other; that is how you are prevented from doing the things that you want to. 5:18... But when you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. 5:19... When self-indulgence is at work the results are obvious: sexual vice, impurity, and sensuality, 5:20... the worship of false gods and sorcery; antagonisms and rivalry, jealousy, bad temper and quarrels, disagreements, 5:21... factions and malice, drunkenness, orgies and all such things. And about these, I tell you now as I have told you in the past, that people who behave in these ways will not inherit the kingdom of God. 5:22... On the other hand the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, trustfulness, 5:23... gentleness and self-control; no law can touch such things as these. 5:24... All who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified self with all its passions and its desires. 5:25... Since we are living by the Spirit, let our behaviour be guided by the Spirit ***
@serpentpigeon9108 Matthew 7:13-14 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. The gate is small, and the way is narrow, which leads to life, and there are few who find it." - Matthew 7:13-14
@@marinalina6348 There are humans made in the image of God that are, in some sense, the offspring of God. We are like him in some way, but that doesn’t mean we’re intimately involved with him in a familial way.
We should give the benefit of doubt to him in using the term sons and daughters since He created humanity versus sons and daughters in the Christian sense.
I have never seen this channel, but when this guy starts by claiming that Francis made some "off the cuffs remarks" when in fact Francis promoted at length a heretical teaching and clarified until his audience understood and accepted via applause, then I know this channel is about to gas-light the sh!t out of me.
“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened." Mt 7: 7-8 People in other religions are seeking God and they shall find Him.
Religions chase an elusive butterfly. Some call it a "papillon", some a "Schmetterling", some a "farfalle" and some a "mariposa". Then they fall out over these terms. They're more interested in what to name the creature than in its nature.
Paths of truth are not the negation of truth. Islam is not a path of truth,because is the negation of truth:Jesus the Son of God and God Himself.Buddism is not even a religion:it is a Philosophy of life.Only Jesus is the way,the truth and life.
You are antagonizing religions which the Pope wishes the church to have fraternal relations with. Maybe look more into his dialogs with leaders, or times he has been present among them or times he has invited envoys of other religions to the Vatican.
If I were a young Jew or Hindu or whatever and I was studying religions in school and they told me that Christianity was about Jesus saving only Christians and everyone else goes to suffer forever I would have a good laugh at the snobbery and pride and not look any further. It's the exclusive judgmental attitude that is pushing them away.
The issue I have is that Pope Francis keeps saying things, which whilst correct, lead to people having to explain what he just said. I take a similar view to Pope Francis, though I put it like this; God is in a room, religions are windows that allow us to look in. Some are much more clear than others". However only one is sufficiently clear. So I don't dispute what he said, just the way it makes it easy for people to misunderstand.
@BensWorkshop English isn't his native language, he spoke in italian, so translations errors are at fault, do some research, Francis has clearly stated many times that salvation can only come through Jesus
@@richard6216 One of the things that has impressed me most about the young people here is your capacity for interfaith dialogue. This is very important because if you start arguing, "My religion is more important than yours..." or "Mine is the true one, yours is not true....." where does this lead? Somebody answer. [A young person answers, "Destruction". ] That is correct. Religions are seen as paths trying to reach God. I will use an analogy, they are like different languages that express the divine. But God is for everyone, and therefore, we are all God's children. "But my God is more important than yours!". Is this true? There is only one God, and religions are like languages that try to express ways to approach God. Some Sikh, some Muslim, some Hindu, some Christian. Understood? Yet, interfaith dialogue among young people takes courage. The age of youth is the age of courage, but you can misuse this courage to do things that will not help you. Instead, you should have courage to move forward and to dialogue.
Pope Boniface VIII, Papal Bull Unam Sanctam (A.D. 1302): “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” Congratulations for the new gospel
@@tonitrua4711 _The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those in authority over them call themselves benefactors. But you shall not be like them. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who leads like the one who serves._ - Jesus Christ
What is there to clarify? He is literally reiterating what Pope Benedict XI and Lumen Gentuim promulgated. People either forgot, care not to remember, or are ignorant of many things.
@@The_Catholic_Christian did he specify this? I agree he is smart and should know better than to leave his words open for interpretation. I disagree with you knowing he will kiss the Quran and bow before Hindu gods
if pope wants to promote indifferentism, why he became pope and give his life to serve in the catholic church at the first place. the context is about inter-religion conversations. we have to have a mindset of not having religion superiority against the others. with both sides have same amount of respect to each other, the real conversations can be done. unlike yall who directly love to condemn everyone outside the church to go to hell while yall never know about someone's real heart and soul, and moreover, yall condemning people while yall still struggling with yall sin. dont be hypocrite.
@@WilvenAtiong "“His purpose was for the nations to seek after God and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him-though he is not far from any one of us. For in him we live and move and exist. As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’" Acts 17:27-28
@@WilvenAtiong yes in a general sense because God created us. But we had sinned and fell from grace so we must repent and turn to Christ or there's no other way.
ST. POPE JOHN PAUL II: “The universality of salvation means that it is granted not only to those who explicitly believe in Christ and have entered the church. Since salvation is offered to all, it must be made concretely available to all. But it is clear that today, as in the past, many people do not have an opportunity to come to know or accept the Gospel revelation or enter the Church. The social and cultural conditions in which they live do not permit this, and frequently they have been brought up in other religious traditions. For such people salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace, which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his Sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit. It enables each person to attain salvation through his or her free cooperation.”
@@The_Catholic_Christian It was exactly that. The Pope HAS to be a diplomat. Like any ambassador the Pope MUST respect the home of his hosts. Also, the conversion levels are insane in the Middle East and East Asia. These gestures make Westerners heads spin but as an ex-pat living in Indonesia, they have HUGE resonance out East.
Pope John Paul II kissed the Qoran because he did not know what quran really said.God wiil fill heaven with Jin and all mankind." ( 32/13) @@The_Catholic_Christian
Interesting to note that *all people* , even the unborn, atheists, non- Christians as well as Christians all by default already benefit from: 1 Being made in the image and likeness of God. 2 The divine became human in Jesus Christ to enable us the human to become divine. * Ideally, they would also consciously choose to accept baptism to be incorporated into the Mystical Body of Christ and to be properly guided and nourished by the Church: "Anyone who acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God remains in him and he in God."(1John 4:15) * As for having the Spirit of God, of Love ... "We have recognised for ourselves, and put our faith in, the love God has for us. God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God and God in him." (1John 4:16) * 🙂 _Thus we see Pope Francis' gesture to the non-Christians._🕊
John 14:6-7 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” Revelation 22 🤍
Look. This wasn't the ramblings of an older man, or one trying to be deferential. This is policy stared by Vatican II. I've read it and the Pope said basically what it said. This is not the Gospel. We do not show love by allowing others to die in their sin without at least proclaiming the truth.
@@The_Catholic_ChristianUm, I am a Christian. I guess Protestant is what I am. I do know that in the end there will be a one world economy, state and religion. Vatican II and the Pope’s own words seem to point out it is coming pretty darn quick.
I agree with the spirit of your gloss on his comments, and even your thinking... The problem is Francis is speaking qua pope and often does not make himself clear that all religions, to the extent they are isomorphic with Christianity, contain elements of truth. I felt the same conflict in his comments about Hell. I myself detest hell, a lapsed Catholic, but I also grasp the Church is facing a postmodern maelstrom outside and a crisis of meaning, and I question whether it is wise for the pontiff of 1 billion faithful to be pontificating in the same way that a theologian more at the edge of the tradition might be. I suppose I am really channeling a deeper dislike of Francis, based perhaps more on his political interspersions on issues like green energy and covid authoritarianism, when he strikes me as speaking beyond both his intellectual and moral keen. I am just genuinely not too fond of a pope who seems more political and Marxist than a serious expositor of the teachings of Christ. When the West is transing kids, it would be nice to hear more from Francis about the unqualified evil that is. Perhaps I lose patience with him, even as I share some of these theological asseverations... But I question deeply whether his papacy is healthy or deviant. This question is all the more perverse for my sharing his thinking on some of these theological disputes. But the pope should not be quite so sounding like Sam Harris...
Both extremes make me mad. First that all religions lead to God and second that all non christians would be condemned. No I try to believe in good, merciful God. Of course we need to believe that Lord Jesus sacrified for us and He destroyed our sins on the cross, but I doubt that buddhist who had no chance to believe in God is condemned. It would be very unjust and God is LOVE, Good, and Wisdom. I very LOVE in catholicism that we try to mix faith with reason and with acts. Faith without acts are dead and vice versa, but I don't think that all no believers who try to be best people and search for God should be condemn. God is mystery, which we can discover in many phases. Many of His wondrfull mysteries remain higieny for us even in everlasting life and we as human should be thankful if Lord choose us to celebrate with Him Joy of everlasting life without pain, disease and sadness.❤
I think the best point to judge this word of pope with definition of religion who's God love *is in the TRUe BOOK OF GOD AND IT'S NeW TeSTIMONY* >>> James 1v26-27
I pray that God will not punish him for saying that. He should know that the other denominations he listed do not pray to our God. They pray to what God calls demonic and idolatry. These God's are not alive and don't talk, they are paganism 😂😂😂
St.Hilary of the poitiers , books10 chapter 70. “…Trifle not with ambiguities, be not stirred up to vain babblings, do not debate in any way the powers of God, or impose limits upon His might, cease searching again and again for the causes of unsearchable mysteries: confess rather that Jesus is the Lord, and believe that God raised Him from the dead; herein is salvation. What folly is it to depreciate the nature and character of Christ, when this alone is salvation, to know that He is the Lord. Again, what an error of human vanity to quarrel about His resurrection, when it is enough for eternal life to believe that God raised Him up. In simplicity then is faith, in faith righteousness, and in confession true godliness. For God does not call us to the blessed life through arduous investigations. He does not tempt us with the varied arts of rhetoric. The way to eternity is plain and easy; believe that Jesus was raised from the dead by God and confess that He is the Lord. Let no one therefore wrest into an occasion for impiety, what was said because of our ignorance. It had to be proved to us, that Jesus Christ died, that we might live in Him.” mmm interesting…
I think that what you've communicated is an exercise in cherry picking scripture (read the other half of John 14:6 that you left out) and re-interpreting the message that was clearly received by the people in the room. I watched the clip, and the people all clapped after he said that because what was understood is exactly the same thing Christians who are upset about it heard. If Pope Francis prefaced it with everything you are saying, I think the people in the room still would've felt excluded, but the way he said it, it seems to me, allowed them the relief of not having to make the choice to choose Christ, because, according to the Pope, they're already on the path to God. If all religions are the path to God, that's the same as saying being alive is being on the path to God... Also, I'm curious what 'elements of sanctification' protestants are missing.
Pope Francis did not say "all religions are the path to God;" those are your words. Also, being alive is a path to God being made in His image and likeness; read Romans 1:19-21 and 2:14-15. The main elements of sanctification that Protestants are missing are the Sacrifice of the Mass and the five sacraments they lack; however, they maintain two sacraments, at least most do.
@@The_Catholic_Christian "...every religion is a way to arrive at God." is what the English speaking translator stated. An analogy of languages is then given, as if they are all saying the exact same thing in different ways. This would be a wonderful thing if they did, but simple reality is that they do not.
The real tragedy out of all of this, isnt about what the Pope said and meant. Its what so called Catholics want it to mean. The Catholics that judge our Pope will be dealt with the same Judgment by our Creator
@@Hope_Boat Christ created the universal church. Catholic with the Pope as the one to lead His church on Earth, your choice not to be in communion with his church. I'm not here to condemn anyone, just stating facts
@@Luis-vn4ue Luke 22:24-26 _A dispute also arose among the disciples as to which of them would be considered the greatest. So Jesus declared, “The kings of the Nations lord it over them, and those in authority over them call themselves benefactors. But you shall not be like them. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who leads like the one who serves."_ Here is how saint pope Gregory the Great interpreted those words of Jesus (in the letter to saint John the Faster) : _Whoever calls himself universal bishop, or desires this title, is, by his pride, the precursor to the Antichrist._ Now tell me. What saves you? Submission to the Roman Pontiff. Following Jesus Christ. And when Francis contradicts Jesus, what is your choice. Choose wisely. Kyrie eleison ☦️
@Hope_Boat you forget one thing, the Church which is the body of Christ, is the Catholic church, Jesus chose Peter to lead his body. Francis is Peter's successor, so following Francis is the will of Christ and doing the will of Christ is being loyal to his Church. Francis has pointed out many times that salvation can only be attained through Christ. Research what he really said not what the media tells you
Eternal life implies not just living forever but living forever in God's grace *like* God himself. But, how could it be? For... -God is spirit, we are not. We have a body, we are both spirit (soul) and body. -God is uncreated, we are not. -God has no beginning, we have; we are created by God. -God is love and to be honest we are not. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19) Part 2 So, how does God solve the dilemma? Right from the beginning God has already prepared the seed for that by creating us in his own image and likeness. (cf., Genesis 1:27) But by that it merely meant that like God, we are have free will and creative intelligence. That infinite gap of God being spirit and we have bodies, God being uncreated and is love... and we are not so are still there as an infinite chasm dividing us from God. But, can anything really separate us from the love of God who is also all wise and almighty? "Neither death nor life, nothing that exists, nothing still to come, not any power, not any height nor depth, nor any created thing can ever come between us and the love of God” (Romans 8:38-39). God solve the dilemma by taking on our human nature in Jesus Christ. In Jesus the Christ God has now both spirit and body like us. As Saint Athanasius puts it, the divine became human to enable the human to become divine. (cf., St Athanasius: On the Incarnation) Thus, "no one can come to the Father except through Me" for it is only through Jesus Christ, truly God and truly man, that a significant factor in that infinite chasm between God and us has been significantly, partly bridged. The other factors like being uncreated and eternal are also solved by the incarnation of God as Jesus Christ. For although by nature we are mere creatures and finite-- not eternal -- through our being incorporated into the Mystical/Cosmic Body of Christ through Baptism we could even, by grace, share in his uncreatedness and eternal nature. Thus John 15:5-6... " I am the vine, you are the branches. ... Anyone who does not remain in me ... withers." * Seems like all that God could do to bridge that awful chasm between between God and us to enable us to assimilate into God, to be one with the Father and the Son has been done in Jesus Christ through his divinity taking on our humanity and incorporating us into the Mystical Body of Christ.... So are we already like God now? No. Why? Because, and this is a very important and most significant factor, the essence of God is love and on our part love must be freely chosen or it is not love at all. And to be honest, we are not always that loving. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19) Yet God, ever willling to do his utmost to help us to share in his life, to be like him gives us his Holy Spirit -- the Spirit of the Father and the Son, the Spirit of Love -- it is up to us to respond or not. God generally won't force grace on us, we have to open our heart to his grace from within. The purpose of the Church, its Magisterium, Scriptures, Sacraments, preaching, etc is to help us to respond to his Holy Spirit. In short, through Jesus Christ all the major physical factors separating us from God have already been overcome, except for one. It is love, and for this we have to open our hearts from within to his Spirit of Love.
Nice BS. Why would God say to his deciples then go out into the world and baptise people in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit? If someone didn't need to be baptized in order to come to God Jesus would have just made it known like we have an answer to all lifes situations in the holy Bible.
Peter said to them: “Repent and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus, the Messiah, for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you, for your children *and for all those whom the Lord God WANTS to call* , *even if they have gone far away* .” therefore all people of other religions are far removed and ignorant of the Truth about *the True God acclaimed by his celestial court >>> Isaiah 6v *1 to 3* - Revelation 4v8 - Matthew 1v23*
But the Pope is seeing it that way. I don't which Christian theology school he attended. Unfortunately all Catholics are obliged to accept and follow since the Pope is the best bible interprater so far in the whole catholic denomination.so whether satanic, Muslim, Mormon, Jehovah's witnesses SDA. But they are all right. I guess no need then telling someone about CATHOLICISM being the genuine true church. Is being protestan other than that if we want to recognise the true gospel??????????????
Pope Francis needs to be more careful about what he says. Too many of his statements can be interpreted in ways that would contradict Catholic doctrine. He should better articulate Catholic doctrine, or just not say anything at all. No pandering, no being diplomatic in order to not offend.
@@The_Catholic_Christian if the pope statement is nothing to worry about, then why are even Roman Catholic disagreeing on what he is saying? The standard used to dismiss the doctrine of the perspicuity of scripture is not the same for pope statements
@@Chegui123-k8m You said “then why are even Roman Catholics disagreeing on what he is saying”? It not unusual for “even Catholics to disagree” on what the pope says. So then what is the “worry”?
If people knowingly and deliberately reject Jesus as God, then they are culpable for that. The elements of truth in other religions can serve as "paths" to the fullness of Truth; I'm quite certain that most of those in other religions are invincibly ignorant and have true fidelity to their conscience.
John 8:44, you belong to your father the devil and you do his lusts. We are clearly not all children of God. And those that accepted him he gave the right to be called children of God. John 1:14
The prodical son never ceased to be the son of the father. Do you really believe that Jesus meant that the scribes were born from the devil? You are reading verses out of context. The notion that there are two generations of people is not Catholic - it is Gnostic.
@@amakrid can't be a prodigal son if you were never a son to begin with. If Muslims and Jews are the sons forever regardless of their rejection of God then your faith is in vain as we believe salvation is only in Christ.
@@mikeoxmaul1788 Your first sentence says it all: We are all God's children, prodigal or not. We are all descendants of Adam who was the "son of God" (Luke 3:31) and we are all created "in the image and likeness of God" (Genesis 1:26-28). This applies to every human being - Christians, Jews, Muslims, pagans. Jews and Muslim don't reject God. On the contrary, they try faithfully to implement the Law of the Old Testament. The Jews reject Christ while the Muslim believe that Christ was a prophet and the promised Messiah, but not equal to God. One could say that they follow the dogmas of the Arian heresy. If faith was enough for your salvation, then Matthew 7:21-23 would not have been written. The words "I have never (sic) knew you" are the harshest words written in the Bible - and they are addressed to believers.
Mohammad said its ok to rape married women as well as single women after a battle See Quran 4;24. In authoritive sahe Bukare 4 52 220 he says "I have my victory through terror". Quran 33;21 it says: Mohammad must be imitated in everything". Need I go on? That doesnt sound like a way to arrive at God. Allah clearly is not God. The loving thing is to help muslims get free of Islam despite the death penalty for apostacy. But in Evangelei Gaudium 2;53 our pope actualy says: "Authentic Islam and a correct reading of the Quran are opposed to all forms of violence." Our pope means well its just that he is inadvertantly on the wrong side. Faith comes to muslime etc the same way as always, through hearing the word of God Romans 9. Thats Kerygma evangelism. The heresy of nice has distracted us from our primary mercy mission. A a world leader our pope is dangerously misleading. He is fascilitating "the works of darkness" instead of exposing them as per Eph 5 19.
I appreciate your level-headed take on the matter. Catholicism is fortunate to have you
Thank you! ❤
Catholicism : Ok dudes. I was wrong for the las millennium, just forget about all the carbonisation of heretics I did, now I have my stuff in order since I lost all my territories and capacity to make kings, but forget about that, I came out with a plausible explanation of why I am still the universal priest during Vatican 2 so keep following me cause now I have the fullness of the truth.
(Not that I hadn't the fullness of the truth before despite it was another truth opposite the the current Truth.)
Trust me bro.
John 14:6
Jesus said unto them,"I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Farther except Through me."
Amen ☦️
Well obviously not now. It looks like Our Saviour didn't know what he was talking about, because it now seems that everyone regardless of belief, or even non belief, are all getting into Heaven.
It's great we have the Pope to correct the mistakes made by the Son of God (and yes, I'm being sarcastic what he said was out-and out heresy).
Eternal life implies not just living forever but living forever in God's grace *like* God himself.
But, how could it be? For...
-God is spirit, we are not. We have a body, we are both spirit (soul) and body.
-God is uncreated, we are not.
-God has no beginning, we have; we are created by God.
-God is love and to be honest we are not. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19)
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So, how does God solve the dilemma?
Right from the beginning God has already prepared the seed for that by creating us in his own image and likeness. (cf., Genesis 1:27) But by that it merely meant that like God, we are have free will and creative intelligence. That infinite gap of God being spirit and we have bodies, God being uncreated and is love... and we are not so are still there as an infinite chasm dividing us from God.
But, can anything really separate us from the love of God who is also all wise and almighty? "Neither death nor life, nothing that exists, nothing still to come, not any power, not any height nor depth, nor any created thing can ever come between us and the love of God” (Romans 8:38-39).
God solve the dilemma by taking on our human nature in Jesus Christ. In Jesus the Christ God has now both spirit and body like us. As Saint Athanasius puts it, the divine became human to enable the human to become divine. (cf.,
St Athanasius: On the Incarnation)
Thus, "no one can come to the Father except through Me" for it is only through Jesus Christ, truly God and truly man, that a significant factor in that infinite chasm between God and us has been significantly, partly bridged.
The other factors like being uncreated and eternal are also solved by the incarnation of God as Jesus Christ. For although by nature we are mere creatures and finite-- not eternal -- through our being incorporated into the Mystical/Cosmic Body of Christ through Baptism we could even, by grace, share in his uncreatedness and eternal nature.
Thus John 15:5-6... " I am the vine, you are the branches. ... Anyone who does not remain in me ... withers."
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Seems like all that God could do to bridge that awful chasm between between God and us to enable us to assimilate into God, to be one with the Father and the Son has been done in Jesus Christ through his divinity taking on our humanity and incorporating us into the Mystical Body of Christ.... So are we already like God now? No.
Why?
Because, and this is a very important and most significant factor, the essence of God is love and on our part love must be freely chosen or it is not love at all.
And to be honest, we are not always that loving. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19)
Yet God, ever willling to do his utmost to help us to share in his life, to be like him gives us his Holy Spirit -- the Spirit of the Father and the Son, the Spirit of Love -- it is up to us to respond or not. God generally won't force grace on us, we have to open our heart to his grace from within.
The purpose of the Church, its Magisterium, Scriptures, Sacraments, preaching, etc is to help us to respond to his Holy Spirit.
In short, through Jesus Christ all the major physical factors separating us from God have already been overcome, except for one. It is love, and for this we have to open our hearts from within.
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But still the glaring facts remain that God is Creator, has no beginng and is infinite, but we are not. We are created, have a beginning and are finite. The dilemma is solved by incorporating us in Christ.
We by ourselves are indeed created, finite and have a beginning but Christ is not. He is creator, uncreated and infinite. In Christ but only in Christ, we can truly share in the very nature of God (cf., John 1:1-4, 14:6, 15:5-6, Philippians 2:6-8, Colossians 1:15-20).
John 17:21-26...
17:21... "May they all be one, just as, Father, you are in me and I am in you, so that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe it was you who sent me.
17:22... I have given them the glory you gave to me, that they may be one as we are one.
17:23... With me in them and you in me, may they be so perfected in unity that the world will recognise that it was you who sent me and that you have loved them as you have loved me.
17:24... Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, so that they may always see my glory which you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.
17:25... Father, Upright One, the world has not known you, but I have known you, and these have known that you have sent me.
17:26... I have made your name known to them and will continue to make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them, and so that I may be in them.
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But still, "God is love" and we are not always that loving. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19)
This dilemma is solved by God filling us with his own Holy Spirit: "All who are guided by the Spirit of God are sons of God;... The Spirit himself joins with our spirit to bear witness that we are children of God." (Romans 8:14, 16)
We have to open our heart to his Love in order to be fully assimilated into him for "God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God and God in him".
"Look, I am standing at the door, knocking. If one of you hears me calling and opens the door, I will come in to share a meal at that person's side." (Revelation 3:20)
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Galatians 5:16-25...
5:16... Instead, I tell you, be guided by the Spirit, and you will no longer yield to self-indulgence.
5:17... The desires of self-indulgence are always in opposition to the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are in opposition to self-indulgence: they are opposites, one against the other; that is how you are prevented from doing the things that you want to.
5:18... But when you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.
5:19... When self-indulgence is at work the results are obvious: sexual vice, impurity, and sensuality,
5:20... the worship of false gods and sorcery; antagonisms and rivalry, jealousy, bad temper and quarrels, disagreements,
5:21... factions and malice, drunkenness, orgies and all such things. And about these, I tell you now as I have told you in the past, that people who behave in these ways will not inherit the kingdom of God.
5:22... On the other hand the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, trustfulness,
5:23... gentleness and self-control; no law can touch such things as these.
5:24... All who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified self with all its passions and its desires.
5:25... Since we are living by the Spirit, let our behaviour be guided by the Spirit
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"All religions are path........."
Means there are paths but some rough roads and some fine roads.
@serpentpigeon9108
Matthew 7:13-14
“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. The gate is small, and the way is narrow, which leads to life, and there are few who find it."
- Matthew 7:13-14
We are all creations of God, but only through Christ do we become His Children, Pope got it wrong.
No that is incorrect
@@EricAlHarb John 1:12-13, Romans 8:14, Galatians 3:26
@@marinalina6348 There are humans made in the image of God that are, in some sense, the offspring of God. We are like him in some way, but that doesn’t mean we’re intimately involved with him in a familial way.
We should give the benefit of doubt to him in using the term sons and daughters since He created humanity versus sons and daughters in the Christian sense.
I have never seen this channel, but when this guy starts by claiming that Francis made some "off the cuffs remarks" when in fact Francis promoted at length a heretical teaching and clarified until his audience understood and accepted via applause, then I know this channel is about to gas-light the sh!t out of me.
“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened." Mt 7: 7-8 People in other religions are seeking God and they shall find Him.
Religions chase an elusive butterfly. Some call it a "papillon", some a "Schmetterling", some a "farfalle" and some a "mariposa". Then they fall out over these terms. They're more interested in what to name the creature than in its nature.
Paths of truth are not the negation of truth. Islam is not a path of truth,because is the negation of truth:Jesus the Son of God and God Himself.Buddism is not even a religion:it is a Philosophy of life.Only Jesus is the way,the truth and life.
You are antagonizing religions which the Pope wishes the church to have fraternal relations with. Maybe look more into his dialogs with leaders, or times he has been present among them or times he has invited envoys of other religions to the Vatican.
If I were a young Jew or Hindu or whatever and I was studying religions in school and they told me that Christianity was about Jesus saving only Christians and everyone else goes to suffer forever I would have a good laugh at the snobbery and pride and not look any further. It's the exclusive judgmental attitude that is pushing them away.
Thanks for this. I think people are quick to jump to headlines and don't actually think things through sometimes.
Yep!
The issue I have is that Pope Francis keeps saying things, which whilst correct, lead to people having to explain what he just said.
I take a similar view to Pope Francis, though I put it like this;
God is in a room, religions are windows that allow us to look in. Some are much more clear than others". However only one is sufficiently clear.
So I don't dispute what he said, just the way it makes it easy for people to misunderstand.
All religions? How can religions like Hinduism be windows? It is pagan - nature worship, has millions of "deities". Fyi, I'm a cradle catholic.
@BensWorkshop English isn't his native language, he spoke in italian, so translations errors are at fault, do some research, Francis has clearly stated many times that salvation can only come through Jesus
@Luis-vn4ue could you please accurately translate what he said? Did the translator goof up?
@@richard6216 One of the things that has impressed me most about the young people here is your capacity for interfaith dialogue. This is very important because if you start arguing, "My religion is more important than yours..." or "Mine is the true one, yours is not true....." where does this lead? Somebody answer. [A young person answers, "Destruction". ] That is correct. Religions are seen as paths trying to reach God. I will use an analogy, they are like different languages that express the divine. But God is for everyone, and therefore, we are all God's children. "But my God is more important than yours!". Is this true? There is only one God, and religions are like languages that try to express ways to approach God. Some Sikh, some Muslim, some Hindu, some Christian. Understood?
Yet, interfaith dialogue among young people takes courage. The age of youth is the age of courage, but you can misuse this courage to do things that will not help you. Instead, you should have courage to move forward and to dialogue.
@@richard6216that is the correct transition. It’s clear that people are misunderstanding what the Pope says. They are trying to twist it
"Outside the church there is no salvation " where did I hear this statement.
Anyone who is saved is because of the Church. Congratulations! :)
Before Vatican 2 I guess.
_laughing in Greek_
Pope Boniface VIII, Papal Bull Unam Sanctam (A.D. 1302): “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.”
Congratulations for the new gospel
@@tonitrua4711 _The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those in authority over them call themselves benefactors. But you shall not be like them. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who leads like the one who serves._ - Jesus Christ
necessary for the salvation of every human creature huh ? Oh wow
Did the pope clarify this to you or is this your interpretation of what he said?
What is there to clarify? He is literally reiterating what Pope Benedict XI and Lumen Gentuim promulgated. People either forgot, care not to remember, or are ignorant of many things.
@@The_Catholic_Christian did he specify this? I agree he is smart and should know better than to leave his words open for interpretation. I disagree with you knowing he will kiss the Quran and bow before Hindu gods
if pope wants to promote indifferentism, why he became pope and give his life to serve in the catholic church at the first place.
the context is about inter-religion conversations. we have to have a mindset of not having religion superiority against the others. with both sides have same amount of respect to each other, the real conversations can be done.
unlike yall who directly love to condemn everyone outside the church to go to hell while yall never know about someone's real heart and soul, and moreover, yall condemning people while yall still struggling with yall sin. dont be hypocrite.
Praise God for you to explain and correct what the pope is saying 🙏
Bad justifications.😂
@@sobeit135 such as?
John 14:6
@@sobeit135The most saddest part is all of us is God's children whatever religion you have 🤦🤦🤦..
@@WilvenAtiong "“His purpose was for the nations to seek after God and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him-though he is not far from any one of us. For in him we live and move and exist. As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’" Acts 17:27-28
@@WilvenAtiong yes in a general sense because God created us. But we had sinned and fell from grace so we must repent and turn to Christ or there's no other way.
Thank You
ST. POPE JOHN PAUL II: “The universality of salvation means that it is granted not only to those who explicitly believe in Christ and have entered the church. Since salvation is offered to all, it must be made concretely available to all. But it is clear that today, as in the past, many people do not have an opportunity to come to know or accept the Gospel revelation or enter the Church. The social and cultural conditions in which they live do not permit this, and frequently they have been brought up in other religious traditions. For such people salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace, which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his Sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit. It enables each person to attain salvation through his or her free cooperation.”
Thank you!
@@The_Catholic_Christian You're welcome!
Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps you could explain also, as to why St Pope John Paul 11 kissed the Quran.!?
I wasn't there when he did. I'd assume he did it out of ecumenical respect.
He still had confirmed miracles attributed to him so it obviously wasn’t a deal breaker with God
@@The_Catholic_Christian It was exactly that. The Pope HAS to be a diplomat. Like any ambassador the Pope MUST respect the home of his hosts. Also, the conversion levels are insane in the Middle East and East Asia. These gestures make Westerners heads spin but as an ex-pat living in Indonesia, they have HUGE resonance out East.
Orthodox here. Please define ecumenical.
Cause the last time I checked Islam is not a Church.
Pope John Paul II kissed the Qoran because he did not know what quran really said.God wiil fill heaven with Jin and all mankind." ( 32/13) @@The_Catholic_Christian
Interesting to note that *all people* , even the unborn, atheists, non- Christians as well as Christians all by default already benefit from:
1 Being made in the image and likeness of God.
2 The divine became human in Jesus Christ to enable us the human to become divine.
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Ideally, they would also consciously choose to accept baptism to be incorporated into the Mystical Body of Christ and to be properly guided and nourished by the Church:
"Anyone who acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God remains in him and he in God."(1John 4:15)
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As for having the Spirit of God, of Love ...
"We have recognised for ourselves, and put our faith in, the love God has for us. God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God and God in him." (1John 4:16)
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🙂 _Thus we see Pope Francis' gesture to the non-Christians._🕊
John 14:6-7
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
Revelation 22 🤍
Look. This wasn't the ramblings of an older man, or one trying to be deferential. This is policy stared by Vatican II. I've read it and the Pope said basically what it said.
This is not the Gospel. We do not show love by allowing others to die in their sin without at least proclaiming the truth.
If you want to protest Vatican II, then you are in communion with millions of Protestants and Orthodox who protest the same Council.
@@The_Catholic_ChristianUm, I am a Christian. I guess Protestant is what I am. I do know that in the end there will be a one world economy, state and religion. Vatican II and the Pope’s own words seem to point out it is coming pretty darn quick.
I agree with the spirit of your gloss on his comments, and even your thinking...
The problem is Francis is speaking qua pope and often does not make himself clear that all religions, to the extent they are isomorphic with Christianity, contain elements of truth.
I felt the same conflict in his comments about Hell. I myself detest hell, a lapsed Catholic, but I also grasp the Church is facing a postmodern maelstrom outside and a crisis of meaning, and I question whether it is wise for the pontiff of 1 billion faithful to be pontificating in the same way that a theologian more at the edge of the tradition might be.
I suppose I am really channeling a deeper dislike of Francis, based perhaps more on his political interspersions on issues like green energy and covid authoritarianism, when he strikes me as speaking beyond both his intellectual and moral keen. I am just genuinely not too fond of a pope who seems more political and Marxist than a serious expositor of the teachings of Christ.
When the West is transing kids, it would be nice to hear more from Francis about the unqualified evil that is. Perhaps I lose patience with him, even as I share some of these theological asseverations...
But I question deeply whether his papacy is healthy or deviant. This question is all the more perverse for my sharing his thinking on some of these theological disputes. But the pope should not be quite so sounding like Sam Harris...
Both extremes make me mad. First that all religions lead to God and second that all non christians would be condemned. No I try to believe in good, merciful God. Of course we need to believe that Lord Jesus sacrified for us and He destroyed our sins on the cross, but I doubt that buddhist who had no chance to believe in God is condemned. It would be very unjust and God is LOVE, Good, and Wisdom. I very LOVE in catholicism that we try to mix faith with reason and with acts. Faith without acts are dead and vice versa, but I don't think that all no believers who try to be best people and search for God should be condemn. God is mystery, which we can discover in many phases. Many of His wondrfull mysteries remain higieny for us even in everlasting life and we as human should be thankful if Lord choose us to celebrate with Him Joy of everlasting life without pain, disease and sadness.❤
I think the best point to judge this word of pope with definition of religion who's God love *is in the TRUe BOOK OF GOD AND IT'S NeW TeSTIMONY* >>> James 1v26-27
I pray that God will not punish him for saying that. He should know that the other denominations he listed do not pray to our God. They pray to what God calls demonic and idolatry. These God's are not alive and don't talk, they are paganism 😂😂😂
They are pagan . a new church
St.Hilary of the poitiers , books10 chapter 70.
“…Trifle not with ambiguities, be not stirred up to vain babblings, do not debate in any way the powers of God, or impose limits upon His might, cease searching again and again for the causes of unsearchable mysteries: confess rather that Jesus is the Lord, and believe that God raised Him from the dead; herein is salvation. What folly is it to depreciate the nature and character of Christ, when this alone is salvation, to know that He is the Lord. Again, what an error of human vanity to quarrel about His resurrection, when it is enough for eternal life to believe that God raised Him up. In simplicity then is faith, in faith righteousness, and in confession true godliness. For God does not call us to the blessed life through arduous investigations. He does not tempt us with the varied arts of rhetoric. The way to eternity is plain and easy; believe that Jesus was raised from the dead by God and confess that He is the Lord. Let no one therefore wrest into an occasion for impiety, what was said because of our ignorance. It had to be proved to us, that Jesus Christ died, that we might live in Him.”
mmm interesting…
I think that what you've communicated is an exercise in cherry picking scripture (read the other half of John 14:6 that you left out) and re-interpreting the message that was clearly received by the people in the room. I watched the clip, and the people all clapped after he said that because what was understood is exactly the same thing Christians who are upset about it heard.
If Pope Francis prefaced it with everything you are saying, I think the people in the room still would've felt excluded, but the way he said it, it seems to me, allowed them the relief of not having to make the choice to choose Christ, because, according to the Pope, they're already on the path to God.
If all religions are the path to God, that's the same as saying being alive is being on the path to God...
Also, I'm curious what 'elements of sanctification' protestants are missing.
Pope Francis did not say "all religions are the path to God;" those are your words. Also, being alive is a path to God being made in His image and likeness; read Romans 1:19-21 and 2:14-15. The main elements of sanctification that Protestants are missing are the Sacrifice of the Mass and the five sacraments they lack; however, they maintain two sacraments, at least most do.
@@The_Catholic_Christian "...every religion is a way to arrive at God." is what the English speaking translator stated.
An analogy of languages is then given, as if they are all saying the exact same thing in different ways.
This would be a wonderful thing if they did, but simple reality is that they do not.
Nonsense
The real tragedy out of all of this, isnt about what the Pope said and meant. Its what so called Catholics want it to mean. The Catholics that judge our Pope will be dealt with the same Judgment by our Creator
We orthodox heard that from 1054 to 1962.
God will not condemn anyone for defending the orthodox faith.
@@Hope_Boat Christ created the universal church. Catholic with the Pope as the one to lead His church on Earth, your choice not to be in communion with his church. I'm not here to condemn anyone, just stating facts
@@Luis-vn4ue Luke 22:24-26
_A dispute also arose among the disciples as to which of them would be considered the greatest. So Jesus declared, “The kings of the Nations lord it over them, and those in authority over them call themselves benefactors. But you shall not be like them. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who leads like the one who serves."_
Here is how saint pope Gregory the Great interpreted those words of Jesus (in the letter to saint John the Faster) :
_Whoever calls himself universal bishop, or desires this title, is, by his pride, the precursor to the Antichrist._
Now tell me. What saves you?
Submission to the Roman Pontiff.
Following Jesus Christ.
And when Francis contradicts Jesus, what is your choice.
Choose wisely. Kyrie eleison ☦️
@Hope_Boat you forget one thing, the Church which is the body of Christ, is the Catholic church, Jesus chose Peter to lead his body. Francis is Peter's successor, so following Francis is the will of Christ and doing the will of Christ is being loyal to his Church. Francis has pointed out many times that salvation can only be attained through Christ. Research what he really said not what the media tells you
@@Luis-vn4ue I forgot nothing. Catholicism is the doctrine of the Gregorian Reformation. There was no Catholic©® Church before the 11th century.
Rome was Orthodox.
Kyrie eleison ☦️
Eternal life implies not just living forever but living forever in God's grace *like* God himself.
But, how could it be? For...
-God is spirit, we are not. We have a body, we are both spirit (soul) and body.
-God is uncreated, we are not.
-God has no beginning, we have; we are created by God.
-God is love and to be honest we are not. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19)
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So, how does God solve the dilemma?
Right from the beginning God has already prepared the seed for that by creating us in his own image and likeness. (cf., Genesis 1:27) But by that it merely meant that like God, we are have free will and creative intelligence. That infinite gap of God being spirit and we have bodies, God being uncreated and is love... and we are not so are still there as an infinite chasm dividing us from God.
But, can anything really separate us from the love of God who is also all wise and almighty? "Neither death nor life, nothing that exists, nothing still to come, not any power, not any height nor depth, nor any created thing can ever come between us and the love of God” (Romans 8:38-39).
God solve the dilemma by taking on our human nature in Jesus Christ. In Jesus the Christ God has now both spirit and body like us. As Saint Athanasius puts it, the divine became human to enable the human to become divine. (cf.,
St Athanasius: On the Incarnation)
Thus, "no one can come to the Father except through Me" for it is only through Jesus Christ, truly God and truly man, that a significant factor in that infinite chasm between God and us has been significantly, partly bridged.
The other factors like being uncreated and eternal are also solved by the incarnation of God as Jesus Christ. For although by nature we are mere creatures and finite-- not eternal -- through our being incorporated into the Mystical/Cosmic Body of Christ through Baptism we could even, by grace, share in his uncreatedness and eternal nature.
Thus John 15:5-6... " I am the vine, you are the branches. ... Anyone who does not remain in me ... withers."
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Seems like all that God could do to bridge that awful chasm between between God and us to enable us to assimilate into God, to be one with the Father and the Son has been done in Jesus Christ through his divinity taking on our humanity and incorporating us into the Mystical Body of Christ.... So are we already like God now? No.
Why?
Because, and this is a very important and most significant factor, the essence of God is love and on our part love must be freely chosen or it is not love at all.
And to be honest, we are not always that loving. As Saint Paul puts it: “…for though the will to do what is good is in me, the performance is not, with the result that instead of doing the good things I want to do, I carry out the sinful things I do not want.” (Romans 7:18-19)
Yet God, ever willling to do his utmost to help us to share in his life, to be like him gives us his Holy Spirit -- the Spirit of the Father and the Son, the Spirit of Love -- it is up to us to respond or not. God generally won't force grace on us, we have to open our heart to his grace from within.
The purpose of the Church, its Magisterium, Scriptures, Sacraments, preaching, etc is to help us to respond to his Holy Spirit.
In short, through Jesus Christ all the major physical factors separating us from God have already been overcome, except for one. It is love, and for this we have to open our hearts from within to his Spirit of Love.
God does not indwell in a person until after Baptism. Because Original sin separates us from God.
Learn and understand divine immensity and read Acts 17: 28-29.
@@The_Catholic_Christian learn the magisterium
Nice BS. Why would God say to his deciples then go out into the world and baptise people in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit? If someone didn't need to be baptized in order to come to God Jesus would have just made it known like we have an answer to all lifes situations in the holy Bible.
Peter said to them: “Repent and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus, the Messiah, for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
For the promise is for you, for your children *and for all those whom the Lord God WANTS to call* , *even if they have gone far away* .”
therefore all people of other religions are far removed and ignorant of the Truth about *the True God acclaimed by his celestial court >>> Isaiah 6v *1 to 3* - Revelation 4v8 - Matthew 1v23*
Allah is not a God of Abraham Issac and Jacob
Thats Yahweh… God revealed to Israelites. Allah is a pagan God of Qureshis, having three daughters
Allah is the term "God" in Arabic.
When the Christian Arabs speak of God in their language, they speak of Allah.
But the Pope is seeing it that way. I don't which Christian theology school he attended. Unfortunately all Catholics are obliged to accept and follow since the Pope is the best bible interprater so far in the whole catholic denomination.so whether satanic, Muslim, Mormon, Jehovah's witnesses SDA. But they are all right. I guess no need then telling someone about CATHOLICISM being the genuine true church. Is being protestan other than that if we want to recognise the true gospel??????????????
Pope Francis needs to be more careful about what he says. Too many of his statements can be interpreted in ways that would contradict Catholic doctrine. He should better articulate Catholic doctrine, or just not say anything at all. No pandering, no being diplomatic in order to not offend.
He is literally reiterating Lumen Gentium and Pope Benedict XVI.
This has gotta be one of the worst arguments I have heard, you know what the Holy Scriptures say
Silly talk
He is talking as an individual and not as the pope ex cathedra. Freedom of speech that you may agree or disagree with..
Im going to trust my instincts on this. It just doesn't sound right to me
@@mackenzie305 are you Catholic?
@@The_Catholic_Christian I grew up methodist, married a Catholic, and am learning more about catholicism. I start rcia on Monday
@@mackenzie305 congratulations!!!
@@The_Catholic_Christian thank you 😊
Ah the “perspicuity” of the statements of the pope.
@@Chegui123-k8m what’s confusing or unclear?
@@The_Catholic_Christian if the pope statement is nothing to worry about, then why are even Roman Catholic disagreeing on what he is saying? The standard used to dismiss the doctrine of the perspicuity of scripture is not the same for pope statements
@@Chegui123-k8m Please show when a pope has said something, even magisterial, which this was not, that ALL Catholics agreed with.
@@srich7503 I don’t know what you are asking. Can you clarify your question?
@@Chegui123-k8m You said “then why are even Roman Catholics disagreeing on what he is saying”? It not unusual for “even Catholics to disagree” on what the pope says. So then what is the “worry”?
Does the paths, preparations can remain paths to God if people on those paths with their free will reject Jesus as God, the way the truth and life?
If people knowingly and deliberately reject Jesus as God, then they are culpable for that. The elements of truth in other religions can serve as "paths" to the fullness of Truth; I'm quite certain that most of those in other religions are invincibly ignorant and have true fidelity to their conscience.
Just admit the truth, bro. He IS a heretic!!! 😅
John 8:44, you belong to your father the devil and you do his lusts.
We are clearly not all children of God.
And those that accepted him he gave the right to be called children of God. John 1:14
"For in him we live and move and exist. As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring." Acts 17:28
@@amakridcontext is important, this does not mean we are ALL his children. There's conditions to being his children. Universalism is not apostolic.
The prodical son never ceased to be the son of the father.
Do you really believe that Jesus meant that the scribes were born from the devil? You are reading verses out of context. The notion that there are two generations of people is not Catholic - it is Gnostic.
@@amakrid can't be a prodigal son if you were never a son to begin with. If Muslims and Jews are the sons forever regardless of their rejection of God then your faith is in vain as we believe salvation is only in Christ.
@@mikeoxmaul1788 Your first sentence says it all: We are all God's children, prodigal or not. We are all descendants of Adam who was the "son of God" (Luke 3:31) and we are all created "in the image and likeness of God" (Genesis 1:26-28). This applies to every human being - Christians, Jews, Muslims, pagans.
Jews and Muslim don't reject God. On the contrary, they try faithfully to implement the Law of the Old Testament. The Jews reject Christ while the Muslim believe that Christ was a prophet and the promised Messiah, but not equal to God. One could say that they follow the dogmas of the Arian heresy.
If faith was enough for your salvation, then Matthew 7:21-23 would not have been written. The words "I have never (sic) knew you" are the harshest words written in the Bible - and they are addressed to believers.
Mohammad said its ok to rape married women as well as single women after a battle See Quran 4;24. In authoritive sahe Bukare 4 52 220 he says "I have my victory through terror". Quran 33;21 it says: Mohammad must be imitated in everything". Need I go on? That doesnt sound like a way to arrive at God. Allah clearly is not God. The loving thing is to help muslims get free of Islam despite the death penalty for apostacy. But in Evangelei Gaudium 2;53 our pope actualy says: "Authentic Islam and a correct reading of the Quran are opposed to all forms of violence." Our pope means well its just that he is inadvertantly on the wrong side. Faith comes to muslime etc the same way as always, through hearing the word of God Romans 9. Thats Kerygma evangelism. The heresy of nice has distracted us from our primary mercy mission. A a world leader our pope is dangerously misleading. He is fascilitating "the works of darkness" instead of exposing them as per Eph 5 19.