Having lunch between 12 and 1pm is suicide. You want to have it early after clearing X Sector and Dark Forest (I can normally clear these by 10:50 off peak, 11:30 on peak) or my personal favourite, grab some lunch and join a queue and eat it there. Wickerman is best ridden in the afternoon once crowds disperse and before dusk at Scarefest. Failing that, getting in the queue at ride close even if it is long as this extends your day technically. Learn the route between Dark Forest and Forbidden Valley well. You could end up using it alot. And don't forget Spinball or RMT
The rides don't open until 10am but the gates open at 9am, normally I use this time to make my way all the way over to Galactica and join the queue, usually means we get on shortly after 10am and are right next to nemesis (if it was still there) for 2nd ride. Normally leaving that area towards wickerman at about 11:30, i've also found with wickerman being so new that best time to go on it is lunchtime, where you can get lucky with a 40 minute queue. But, honestly, the data doesn't lie so I'd expect this way to still be quicker, as you said in the video people take pride in their own methods.
4:15 "forbidden forest" my favourite part of the park on my last trip I started there and the only ride I had to queue for that day was Wickerman minus the fact Rita and smiler were closed
As somebody that visits this park multiple times a month... I can tell you that... No route worked during some of the half term scarefest days this year!!! Park was the worst I've seen it for a long time... 120 minute queues everywhere, queue times actually underestimated!!! Rides constantly breaking down, some for long periods, sometimes leading to evacuation after queueing over an hour... Your route isn't far off my normal route though to be fair,. However I usually arrive early and hit smiler first, whilst there's no queue, then head to Thirteen and Rita, often still on low queues at this point... Oblivion is normally a queue eating monster, and often has the lowest queue all day, so I head there just before grabbing lunch. Then I do forbidden valley. If there's time I'll do any other rides we want to ride, or perhaps some re-rides... Always join the Wicker Man queue last thing, queue shuts, ride doesn't... And the later the time, the better it rides :)
I rarely use the Skyride when it is busy. It would be interesting to see what impact using the Skyride would have on peak and non peak days. Possibly your model could explore what impact it would have if the Skyride was to open at park opening and if it was replaced/updated to have an improved throughput. Good work with this video.
It would be interesting to compare skyride use to non-skyride use. I mostly avoid the skyride on busy days because the queues always seem excessively long. :)
I always go in the order of forbidden valley first, then dark forest, hex, x-sector, then food, then wickerman and any other smaller rides like duel, spin ball or rapids. Works every time!
Since I started doing this in 2018 (late for me being 48 at the time) I visited Cedar Point with the expectation I'd go from coasters with the smallest drop to the biggest so that the bigger ones wouldn't spoil me for the smaller ones. But when I got there I discovered that the park is so big it kinda forces you where to go so as to not waste time, and that's been replicated at every major amusement park I've visited since. (Besides, I've since discovered my OG amusement park coaster order criteria was flawed since that "butterflies in the stomach" feeling I love only happens about once a year for me, since it's so easy to gain a tolerance to and also because it comes from relatively tame elements; only requiring between 0 and -1gs, so next time I'm going for the best coaster 1st, but I digress). What I've experienced makes this post all the more important, ESPECIALLY at Alton Towers, where rides are spread out over such a large area. So, I want to thank you for having posted this video; it's priceless. I rode Behemoth (with total track length of 5318') at Canada Wonderland 13 times in two hours which gives the total average interval between and INCLUDING the ENTIRE ride duration 9 minutes and 32 seconds, consisting of a prime ride time of 70 seconds and total ride time of 3 minutes and 10 seconds. That means that I only spent 6:25 between a train I'm riding from the moment it stops at the station to the next train I'm on being dispatched from the station. The park got SLAMMED by crowds by 1:00pm that day, but that two hour duration was between 10:35am and 12:35pm before the crowds got too big. (I obviously had a Fast Lane Plus) However: Coaster at Playland in Vancouver has a different load and unload station and has a short cue if it's not crowded, so there it's possible to get right back onto the same train you were just riding before its next cycle. In that scenario it's possible to cycle the track every three minutes, but that only lasts for the 1st hour of opening on a dead weekday at best. To best get to the front of the "pre cue" at Alton Towers, I'd recommend staying at Ivy Trough House; an enchanted B&B (I almost said B&M ;) ) the closest lodging to the entrance of the park and much less expensive than the park's resort hotel which is at the opposite terminal of the monorail, and you don't have to worry about parking a car either since it's already parked (assuming the guest owns a car and lives in England, both own which I do not). For my next paragraph: I recommend reading it in Coaster Bot's voice: In the bigger parks of North America like Cedar Point and Canada Wonderland, there is a rope drop that opens when the park is officially supposed to open to guests who have both provided proof of payment and passed security checks into the park, but only about 25 meters in, where they are barred by a rope and security guards from entering further. That rope is supposed to release the guests at exactly the official opening time, at which point there is a "Running of the bulls" to each guest's favourite attraction. The only time I got to Canada Wonderland before 10:00am the rope drop was earlier than it should have been, so I missed it and ran to Leviathan to ride it, but not before purchasing my 4th consecutive daily Fast Lane Plus. After that: I was on the lift hill of Leviathan at exactly 10:00am (when the park was ostensibly supposed to have the rope drop,) when I just happened to be sitting with next to a stranger who was admittedly privileged yet understandably frustrated to have also discovered that he was late for the rope drop too, DESPITE having gotten past security before 10:00am and more importantly was a seasoned local guest of the park, and almost never saw the rope drop early. He also remarked that he always goes home before having to wait even as much as half an hour to ride any attraction. My longest wait on any attraction where having a Fast Lane Plus that allows guests to skip most of the cue was 35 minutes. That only happened once for "Behemoth"; one of three rides at Canada Wonderland the Fast Lane Plus is needed for to skip most of the cue that the mere "Fast Lane" cannot: Yukon Striker, Leviathan and Behemoth. That was an extremely long wait despite the fact that I used that pass to skip most of the cue. But I only had to wait 35 minutes once for any ride that I could use the fast pass to enter the fast pass cue, but I often had to wait 25 minutes for rides that also featured either a fast pass plus cue. To be fair and honest: These "cue times"; (35 mins, 25 mins etc.) also INCLUDE the loading, total ride time and unloading as well as the time it takes coaster marathoning guests to leave the train, the station, and get back into the cue again and the next wait time. In other words: The times I provide are what I would call the "entire coaster marathoner cycle time", not just waiting in the cue. Otherwise I could say I that at Canada Wonderland I once had to wait half an hour for an elite coaster and I often had to wait 20 minutes for an elite coaster, but that costs me the $ it takes to purchase a Fast Lane Plus pass every day I was there. Thank you for this video, Harry, I loved your video. Alton Towers is my favourite amusement park in the U.K. after Blackpool Pleasure Beach.
@@tomrycroft No, I wrote it yesterday. If I lived close to Alton Towers I'd buy a season pass and know which days aren't slammed. I don't like standing in lines with my thumb up my ass more than I need to, especially if I had to also pay for air fair and lodging, nor do I live in Staffordshire. I don't even live in the U.K. I don't even live in Europe. In fact: I don't even live in the same continent: I live in a suburb of Vancouver B.C. on the west coast of Canada. Oh, muggins me.
@@Paolo8772 the fact you're willing to go to AT with the queues the way they are when you live in Canada is some fucking dedication. Interesting read too.
Ty for this video I have just turned 1.4 and I have been dying to go on all the 1.4 rides I’m going Alton towers in half hour today also thank you for the route (I’ll leave a sub)
While this is great in theory, on my last visit I bought a fast pass package for the first time. It was expensive, but it gave me the chance to ride the rapids, runaway mine train and other smaller rides I haven't been able to for years!
We did 1. Nemesis 2. Galactica 3. The Smiler 4. Oblivion Lunch Break 5. Thirteen 6. Wickerman 7. Rita (from 10:00 - 16:45) 8. Spinball Whizzer (from 10:00 - 17:50) Spinball Whizzer being the longest queue we were in
I went on a Sunday and the smiler had 0 queue and was even sending empty carts because no one was in the queue/ not enough people to ride. We got on 10rides on the smiler and 32 rides in total
And when Smiler continues to stay closed you can grab at least 2 more other rides. Or just go to TP. Last time I went I rode all rides at least twice without passes... on a Saturday!
Hello There, this was a great video and a very interesting insight as well as a decent analysis and commentary throughout on the maximum amount of rides you can get done in a day at Alton Towers. Thank you for producing this, it's much appreciated. Cheers Peter :-)
@@coasterbot Hello There, you're welcome and you deserve it. Cheers Peter :-) p.s. thank you for all the decent content you're producing it's much appreciated.
No do nemesis in the morning because everyone goes to smiler because it’s the most popular attraction when I went nemesis and galactica was 0 mins and smiler then was 45 mins and oblivion was 0 mins
This is my order! I HAVE DONE THIS ROUTE 3 TIMES AND DONE IT IN 5 HOURS ON A SU DAY AND 6 HOURS ON A SATURDAY. Arrive at 9.30 Go straight to Forbidden Valley Ride galactica Ride nemesis Go on oblivion Go on Smiler Have lunch Go to Dark forest Ride Th13teen Ride Rita Ride spinball Whizzer Ride wickerman Still have around 2 or 3 hours left
Well on my visit in 2019 I managed to ride Wicker Man, 2x Nemesis, Galactica and The Smiler.. never seen a park with more crowds/ bad capacity. The opening times from 10am to 4pm don’t help of course… But then I’m spoiled by Europapark
@@coasterbot i am aware of that, so far I had gotten very lucky on my trips to CP and Great Adventure, which are places that get absolutely packed. I went to Alton Towers on a Friday two weeks before school summer holidays, so I was hopeful it wasn’t going to be too busy. Looking at the average waiting times throughout the day in this video, it must have been a bit worse the day I visited. As this was my first visit, I still have to ride a couple of rides there, so I’m looking forward to returning there on my next trip to England 😁
I'd love to know if there's any data on what days are off peak, and which off peak days are the least busy? I always found going in the first week or two at the start of the season we could ride all rides multiple times as the park was empty. Very interesting video, thanks very much!
We sadly don't have enough data to figure that out. Though that kind of information might be available on the queue times website (queue-times.com/parks/1/queue_times). Thanks for watching :)
When I went I could go on all the rides (except the smiler because it was closed, instead I went on spinball). I could even go on Nemesis and Galactica twice! The biggest reason for this is because it was a Monday so kids were at school, and because it was a rainy day which put people going.
I went with some friends a few weeks before scarefest on a weekday - arrived at 12 ish and left at 6 ish. Firstly we walked to galactica and waited an hour for that then waited another hour or so for nemesis. We weren’t keen on paying for the scaremazes so took for hex instead. It was around 3 pm at this point. After that we went to the smiler and joined the normal queue running at 45 mins (was about an hour and a bit cause it had a short outage). At around half 4, we head over to wickerman and get on in 20 minutes and pop into the sea life afterwards. At this point it’s around 5 ish and we head to nemesis as it had an advertised 10 min queue (and so it did). A great back row ride to finish the day off and we made it back just in time. Tips for trip -Eat lunch in queue (we did it on nemesis) -Bring your own lunch, don’t buy it from the stores -Bring some water as you can get it refilled for free -Whenever you enter the park always head left unless there’s randomly a small queue on smiler due to an outage idk -Never use cable car between mutiny and forbidden use the lakeside walk instead -On a busy day better off walking from forbidden to mutiny then mutiny to towers and dark forest to get to rita and thirteen -If going by car don’t take the monorail, it’s faster walking. You may have to walk after a long day but it’s better than standing still in queue for an hour
So basically just don't try to ride Wicker man or Smiler first thing, and your route is somewhat optimal. Or alternatively if you see them having a short queue for whatever reason, go for it whenever you can.
I didn't complete all rides but on my first visit I did smiler first then oblivion in 30 minutes and then went to nemesis reborn twice straight to Rita and then wicker man
I remember a few years ago me, my brother and a friend all went To Alton towers while our families stayed at the house were staying in because it was raining loads and we got so many rides in it was crazy
Just watched a few minutes of your video and i can beat your python codes, planning and so on without the need of any of those. I always go there in october, midweek, when the park is open only from 10 till 4 and guess what? I manage to ride them all. I usually start from the sonic spinball as it gives you the boost, then go to the smiler and oblivion. you then move to rita and thirteen. then you get the cable car and go on nemesis, galactica and finally the wicker man. On those days, the longest waiting time is around 10-15 minutes and many times much less... Only downside is sometimes unfortunately ride closures but this is not something you can predict.
I think it’s worth remembering that queue times always vary and I personally think the best idea is to go dark forest then forbidden valley and go wicker man or x-sector form then.(usually I will get on nemisis,galactica,thirteen and rita before 12:30
I went on wickerman first queued at 9:30 got on at 10 then I went on blade then galactica Then thirteen Then Oblivion Then smiler and some water rides, then runaway mine train then nemesis reborn then finally galactica again
It was quite a busy day, but last time I went I had a good route doing The Smiler, then Oblivion, over to Th13teen, then Rita (longest queue), then wicker man, all the way to nemesis and would’ve done Galactica but it wasn’t open until after we left.
What are some tips to my make my day here better. I went today and was absolutely crushed with how dissapointing all the rollercoasters are. Just nothing here was very good. Nothing had good drops no airtime to be found. Im stuck doing one more day tomorrow i really wish i could go somewhere else but at this point i have to make the best of it so im wondering how anyone has fun here? I loved Pleasure Beach Loved Oakwood but thia one is not it!
I got on all the major coasters except for spinball whizzer I went on 13 then rita then galactica then the smiler with a fast track oblivion with fast track then wickerman then nemesis
hey quick question if i were to go on a thursday with expected rain what would be the fastest route edit: this is so specific because i've got a school trip to alton towers and i searched all the detals for it
Hi, I know I'm very late but planning a trip to Alton towers soon, I would love it if you could provide any of the data used for this video. It would be great to have all the average queue times you used but idk if you can share it, but I would mainly like to know how long it would take to walk from each ride to each ride, would be really helpful, great video thanks :D
Definitely not me excessively revising for my alton towers trip in April because last one was such an epic fail and we didn't plan enough and barely got on anything- I'm going proper hardcore mode this time lol
The thing is, if you were to go onto The Smiler, even if you are in a group, you are all better off going into the single rider queue as they will put in groups and then fill in single riders where possible. The single rider queue will be SIGNIFICANTLY shorter but I don’t h think the time for it would be on the queue times website. Also, since the rides near the entrance get filled up first, I recommend you go to the Forbidden Valley first.
I always go to nemesis first cuz it’s at the back of the park. Although my personal model is flawed as everything else seems to get super busy after (more than nemi)
I went for the galactica entrance and ride nemesis 2 min que And then did the smiler 45 min que Then rita 30 min que Th13teen 15 min que Wickerman 25 min que Oblivion 5 min que GaLactica 5min que plus lunch break plus walking 😎😎 Rocked up at 8 30
Great video. The question is, will the temporary rides added for this year which have proved to soften the queue times on the major rides stay? Otherwise the average queue times stated in the data will increase, potentially ruining this plan.
Yes but it's safe to assume the queues for the temp rides would be distributed relatively evenly which means the order of rides in this video still applies
Thanks, and that's a fantastic question. I hope Alton Towers have realised that adding more rides does help soften the queues elsewhere. Perhaps we'll see more permanent flat rides in the future. To be honest, there's a lot that could ruin the plan, even simply a ride being closed! :)
I am going to Walibi Belgium next week to try Kondaa, any enthusiast that has already been there and could tell me the best way to avoid long wait times?
Try this instead ...i always use this when I go it is the fastest way around the park by a long shot .... get to main gate before 9.20am they usually let you go into the park to que for a ride so start with wicker man get on and off that by 10.10am head to 13 next ride this and Rita before 11am even get a ride on hex while you wait on skyride opening at 11am next take skyride over and you will be at forbidden valley for 11.10am do galactica first and then nemesis all before 12am as it is still earlyin the day this is possible ...then head over to oblivion while eating a hot dog from a quick service 😉 ride oblivion usually a 20 min que this time of day and then single rider the smiler all before 1pm this works and I have done this on packed days 🤯😛the reason this works is because you ahead of the crowds.. the two biggest ques all day is wicker and smiler by doing what I said above this eliminates them.. you get a ride on wicker with next to no que then head to the rest of the rides while most the people in the park get stuck in smiler and wickermans que in the morning the you single rider smiler later as that's the quicker way to do this 😀
What I did before was go through the gates make my way over to nemisis and galactica then get the line thing back over to the dark forest for thirteen or Rita then go on the other one then go to x-sector for smiler and oblivion
idk why im watching this bc im going on Thursday 31st March 2022 with my school, so i doubt i will have to queue unless lots of kids from my school (Year7, My Year, Year9, Year10 and Year11)
15 minutes to walk there? At Magic Mountain in CA that's a close ride. Everything in Magic Mountain is really far away from everything else, but on the giant plus side, all that walking, and it really is a mountain (big hill), so you can eat whatever you want because you are burning crazy calories the whole day.
Sounds like Magic Mountain and Alton Towers are roughly the same scale. Though, Alton Towers has a big valley in the middle of it, whilst SFMM seems to be filled with ride after ride! :)
Having lunch between 12 and 1pm is suicide. You want to have it early after clearing X Sector and Dark Forest (I can normally clear these by 10:50 off peak, 11:30 on peak) or my personal favourite, grab some lunch and join a queue and eat it there. Wickerman is best ridden in the afternoon once crowds disperse and before dusk at Scarefest. Failing that, getting in the queue at ride close even if it is long as this extends your day technically.
Learn the route between Dark Forest and Forbidden Valley well. You could end up using it alot. And don't forget Spinball or RMT
I’d love to see a follow up video with you trying out this optimum route
I think I'll have to make that video due to popular demand ;)
@@coasterbot Hi, has that vid been made yet?
@@coasterbotHas it been done?
@@RonaldTrumpOfficial dont think so
The rides don't open until 10am but the gates open at 9am, normally I use this time to make my way all the way over to Galactica and join the queue, usually means we get on shortly after 10am and are right next to nemesis (if it was still there) for 2nd ride. Normally leaving that area towards wickerman at about 11:30, i've also found with wickerman being so new that best time to go on it is lunchtime, where you can get lucky with a 40 minute queue.
But, honestly, the data doesn't lie so I'd expect this way to still be quicker, as you said in the video people take pride in their own methods.
4:15 "forbidden forest" my favourite part of the park on my last trip I started there and the only ride I had to queue for that day was Wickerman minus the fact Rita and smiler were closed
Thats the name of the forrest from harry potter
What happened to forbidden valley. Nooo!!!
As somebody that visits this park multiple times a month... I can tell you that... No route worked during some of the half term scarefest days this year!!! Park was the worst I've seen it for a long time... 120 minute queues everywhere, queue times actually underestimated!!! Rides constantly breaking down, some for long periods, sometimes leading to evacuation after queueing over an hour...
Your route isn't far off my normal route though to be fair,. However I usually arrive early and hit smiler first, whilst there's no queue, then head to Thirteen and Rita, often still on low queues at this point... Oblivion is normally a queue eating monster, and often has the lowest queue all day, so I head there just before grabbing lunch. Then I do forbidden valley. If there's time I'll do any other rides we want to ride, or perhaps some re-rides... Always join the Wicker Man queue last thing, queue shuts, ride doesn't... And the later the time, the better it rides :)
I rarely use the Skyride when it is busy. It would be interesting to see what impact using the Skyride would have on peak and non peak days. Possibly your model could explore what impact it would have if the Skyride was to open at park opening and if it was replaced/updated to have an improved throughput. Good work with this video.
It would be interesting to compare skyride use to non-skyride use. I mostly avoid the skyride on busy days because the queues always seem excessively long. :)
I always go in the order of forbidden valley first, then dark forest, hex, x-sector, then food, then wickerman and any other smaller rides like duel, spin ball or rapids. Works every time!
Since I started doing this in 2018 (late for me being 48 at the time) I visited Cedar Point with the expectation I'd go from coasters with the smallest drop to the biggest so that the bigger ones wouldn't spoil me for the smaller ones. But when I got there I discovered that the park is so big it kinda forces you where to go so as to not waste time, and that's been replicated at every major amusement park I've visited since. (Besides, I've since discovered my OG amusement park coaster order criteria was flawed since that "butterflies in the stomach" feeling I love only happens about once a year for me, since it's so easy to gain a tolerance to and also because it comes from relatively tame elements; only requiring between 0 and -1gs, so next time I'm going for the best coaster 1st, but I digress). What I've experienced makes this post all the more important, ESPECIALLY at Alton Towers, where rides are spread out over such a large area. So, I want to thank you for having posted this video; it's priceless.
I rode Behemoth (with total track length of 5318') at Canada Wonderland 13 times in two hours which gives the total average interval between and INCLUDING the ENTIRE ride duration 9 minutes and 32 seconds, consisting of a prime ride time of 70 seconds and total ride time of 3 minutes and 10 seconds. That means that I only spent 6:25 between a train I'm riding from the moment it stops at the station to the next train I'm on being dispatched from the station. The park got SLAMMED by crowds by 1:00pm that day, but that two hour duration was between 10:35am and 12:35pm before the crowds got too big. (I obviously had a Fast Lane Plus)
However: Coaster at Playland in Vancouver has a different load and unload station and has a short cue if it's not crowded, so there it's possible to get right back onto the same train you were just riding before its next cycle. In that scenario it's possible to cycle the track every three minutes, but that only lasts for the 1st hour of opening on a dead weekday at best.
To best get to the front of the "pre cue" at Alton Towers, I'd recommend staying at Ivy Trough House; an enchanted B&B (I almost said B&M ;) ) the closest lodging to the entrance of the park and much less expensive than the park's resort hotel which is at the opposite terminal of the monorail, and you don't have to worry about parking a car either since it's already parked (assuming the guest owns a car and lives in England, both own which I do not).
For my next paragraph: I recommend reading it in Coaster Bot's voice: In the bigger parks of North America like Cedar Point and Canada Wonderland, there is a rope drop that opens when the park is officially supposed to open to guests who have both provided proof of payment and passed security checks into the park, but only about 25 meters in, where they are barred by a rope and security guards from entering further. That rope is supposed to release the guests at exactly the official opening time, at which point there is a "Running of the bulls" to each guest's favourite attraction.
The only time I got to Canada Wonderland before 10:00am the rope drop was earlier than it should have been, so I missed it and ran to Leviathan to ride it, but not before purchasing my 4th consecutive daily Fast Lane Plus. After that: I was on the lift hill of Leviathan at exactly 10:00am (when the park was ostensibly supposed to have the rope drop,) when I just happened to be sitting with next to a stranger who was admittedly privileged yet understandably frustrated to have also discovered that he was late for the rope drop too, DESPITE having gotten past security before 10:00am and more importantly was a seasoned local guest of the park, and almost never saw the rope drop early. He also remarked that he always goes home before having to wait even as much as half an hour to ride any attraction.
My longest wait on any attraction where having a Fast Lane Plus that allows guests to skip most of the cue was 35 minutes. That only happened once for "Behemoth"; one of three rides at Canada Wonderland the Fast Lane Plus is needed for to skip most of the cue that the mere "Fast Lane" cannot: Yukon Striker, Leviathan and Behemoth. That was an extremely long wait despite the fact that I used that pass to skip most of the cue. But I only had to wait 35 minutes once for any ride that I could use the fast pass to enter the fast pass cue, but I often had to wait 25 minutes for rides that also featured either a fast pass plus cue.
To be fair and honest: These "cue times"; (35 mins, 25 mins etc.) also INCLUDE the loading, total ride time and unloading as well as the time it takes coaster marathoning guests to leave the train, the station, and get back into the cue again and the next wait time. In other words: The times I provide are what I would call the "entire coaster marathoner cycle time", not just waiting in the cue. Otherwise I could say I that at Canada Wonderland I once had to wait half an hour for an elite coaster and I often had to wait 20 minutes for an elite coaster, but that costs me the $ it takes to purchase a Fast Lane Plus pass every day I was there.
Thank you for this video, Harry, I loved your video. Alton Towers is my favourite amusement park in the U.K. after Blackpool Pleasure Beach.
Did you just write this comment for this video!? It's like an entire essay of your life story. A round of applause and a severe amount of confusion.
@@tomrycroft No, I wrote it yesterday. If I lived close to Alton Towers I'd buy a season pass and know which days aren't slammed. I don't like standing in lines with my thumb up my ass more than I need to, especially if I had to also pay for air fair and lodging, nor do I live in Staffordshire. I don't even live in the U.K. I don't even live in Europe. In fact: I don't even live in the same continent: I live in a suburb of Vancouver B.C. on the west coast of Canada. Oh, muggins me.
@@Paolo8772 the fact you're willing to go to AT with the queues the way they are when you live in Canada is some fucking dedication. Interesting read too.
Ty for this video I have just turned 1.4 and I have been dying to go on all the 1.4 rides I’m going Alton towers in half hour today also thank you for the route (I’ll leave a sub)
Start at the back.
Off set lunch.
You’re all set.
Managed to ride every single roller coaster + a couple flat rides at alton towers on my first visit. greatest achievement
That's awesome!
off peak days are just such a good way, got on everything twice in one day (the smiler 3 times) with no fastpasses lol
That's awesome!
While this is great in theory, on my last visit I bought a fast pass package for the first time. It was expensive, but it gave me the chance to ride the rapids, runaway mine train and other smaller rides I haven't been able to for years!
feel like wicker man is a coaster that is ALWAYS busy, you want to get a nice night ride : 60+ mins , want to ride first thing 120+ UGHHH
At the end of the day smiler had a 4 min que 😂
I was lucky, when it first came out my dad took me out of school for my birthday so it wasn’t that busy as it was 10 but at the end it was 2 hours-
We did
1. Nemesis
2. Galactica
3. The Smiler
4. Oblivion
Lunch Break
5. Thirteen
6. Wickerman
7. Rita
(from 10:00 - 16:45)
8. Spinball Whizzer
(from 10:00 - 17:50)
Spinball Whizzer being the longest queue we were in
I went on a Sunday and the smiler had 0 queue and was even sending empty carts because no one was in the queue/ not enough people to ride. We got on 10rides on the smiler and 32 rides in total
And when Smiler continues to stay closed you can grab at least 2 more other rides.
Or just go to TP. Last time I went I rode all rides at least twice without passes... on a Saturday!
Thanks I got on all the the rides and had a blast 😊
That's awesome to hear!
Hello There, this was a great video and a very interesting insight as well as a decent analysis and commentary throughout on the maximum amount of rides you can get done in a day at Alton Towers. Thank you for producing this, it's much appreciated. Cheers Peter :-)
Thanks for the kind comment and for watching Peter :)
@@coasterbot Hello There, you're welcome and you deserve it. Cheers Peter :-) p.s. thank you for all the decent content you're producing it's much appreciated.
Can you do a video like this for Thorpe Park?
Maybe in the future :)
Forbidden Forest 😮😮 some very good tips here
Oops ha ha. The Forbidden Forest has a good ring to it though!
@@coasterbot it sure does! tbf I've called it that many times before!!!
No do nemesis in the morning because everyone goes to smiler because it’s the most popular attraction when I went nemesis and galactica was 0 mins and smiler then was 45 mins and oblivion was 0 mins
I’ve been to Alton towers there was so much walking my feet swelled up
My visit usually goes:
Spinball Whizzer, Oblivion, The Smiler, Th13teen, Rita, Wickerman, Nemesis, Galactica. Maybe the blade afterwards.
This is my order! I HAVE DONE THIS ROUTE 3 TIMES AND DONE IT IN 5 HOURS ON A SU DAY AND 6 HOURS ON A SATURDAY.
Arrive at 9.30
Go straight to Forbidden Valley
Ride galactica
Ride nemesis
Go on oblivion
Go on Smiler
Have lunch
Go to Dark forest
Ride Th13teen
Ride Rita
Ride spinball Whizzer
Ride wickerman
Still have around 2 or 3 hours left
Im gonna try this today (:
@@farinatasmia9134 did it work?
Well on my visit in 2019 I managed to ride Wicker Man, 2x Nemesis, Galactica and The Smiler.. never seen a park with more crowds/ bad capacity. The opening times from 10am to 4pm don’t help of course…
But then I’m spoiled by Europapark
You must have visited on a busy day!
Europa Park is huge, with a large number of high capacity attractions. Sadly it's not all that comparable
@@coasterbot i am aware of that, so far I had gotten very lucky on my trips to CP and Great Adventure, which are places that get absolutely packed.
I went to Alton Towers on a Friday two weeks before school summer holidays, so I was hopeful it wasn’t going to be too busy.
Looking at the average waiting times throughout the day in this video, it must have been a bit worse the day I visited.
As this was my first visit, I still have to ride a couple of rides there, so I’m looking forward to returning there on my next trip to England 😁
this gets recomended to me after me and my friend have just came back from alton towers, still its good information to have tomorrow
I'd love to know if there's any data on what days are off peak, and which off peak days are the least busy? I always found going in the first week or two at the start of the season we could ride all rides multiple times as the park was empty.
Very interesting video, thanks very much!
We sadly don't have enough data to figure that out. Though that kind of information might be available on the queue times website (queue-times.com/parks/1/queue_times).
Thanks for watching :)
When I went I could go on all the rides (except the smiler because it was closed, instead I went on spinball). I could even go on Nemesis and Galactica twice! The biggest reason for this is because it was a Monday so kids were at school, and because it was a rainy day which put people going.
That's awesome!
Awesome, hopefully i'll try this out in december sometime!
it’s not open in december
Poor spinball whizzer I couldn’t miss that ride! Also lunch time can be a good time for rides if you are willing to eat later, or eat in the queue….
Spinball is great but I don't think everyone agrees with us! :)
I went with some friends a few weeks before scarefest on a weekday - arrived at 12 ish and left at 6 ish. Firstly we walked to galactica and waited an hour for that then waited another hour or so for nemesis. We weren’t keen on paying for the scaremazes so took for hex instead. It was around 3 pm at this point. After that we went to the smiler and joined the normal queue running at 45 mins (was about an hour and a bit cause it had a short outage). At around half 4, we head over to wickerman and get on in 20 minutes and pop into the sea life afterwards. At this point it’s around 5 ish and we head to nemesis as it had an advertised 10 min queue (and so it did). A great back row ride to finish the day off and we made it back just in time.
Tips for trip
-Eat lunch in queue (we did it on nemesis)
-Bring your own lunch, don’t buy it from the stores
-Bring some water as you can get it refilled for free
-Whenever you enter the park always head left unless there’s randomly a small queue on smiler due to an outage idk
-Never use cable car between mutiny and forbidden use the lakeside walk instead
-On a busy day better off walking from forbidden to mutiny then mutiny to towers and dark forest to get to rita and thirteen
-If going by car don’t take the monorail, it’s faster walking. You may have to walk after a long day but it’s better than standing still in queue for an hour
So basically just don't try to ride Wicker man or Smiler first thing, and your route is somewhat optimal. Or alternatively if you see them having a short queue for whatever reason, go for it whenever you can.
Thank you, lord coasterbot
I didn't complete all rides but on my first visit I did smiler first then oblivion in 30 minutes and then went to nemesis reborn twice straight to Rita and then wicker man
I remember a few years ago me, my brother and a friend all went To Alton towers while our families stayed at the house were staying in because it was raining loads and we got so many rides in it was crazy
Got platinum fast pass last week, had 30 total rides on the rollercoasters
That'll do it!
Just watched a few minutes of your video and i can beat your python codes, planning and so on without the need of any of those. I always go there in october, midweek, when the park is open only from 10 till 4 and guess what? I manage to ride them all. I usually start from the sonic spinball as it gives you the boost, then go to the smiler and oblivion. you then move to rita and thirteen. then you get the cable car and go on nemesis, galactica and finally the wicker man. On those days, the longest waiting time is around 10-15 minutes and many times much less... Only downside is sometimes unfortunately ride closures but this is not something you can predict.
I think it’s worth remembering that queue times always vary and I personally think the best idea is to go dark forest then forbidden valley and go wicker man or x-sector form then.(usually I will get on nemisis,galactica,thirteen and rita before 12:30
I went on wickerman first queued at 9:30 got on at 10 then I went on blade then galactica Then thirteen Then Oblivion Then smiler and some water rides, then runaway mine train then nemesis reborn then finally galactica again
I agree
It was quite a busy day, but last time I went I had a good route doing The Smiler, then Oblivion, over to Th13teen, then Rita (longest queue), then wicker man, all the way to nemesis and would’ve done Galactica but it wasn’t open until after we left.
Im going tommorow and im testing it!!!!!!
What are some tips to my make my day here better. I went today and was absolutely crushed with how dissapointing all the rollercoasters are. Just nothing here was very good. Nothing had good drops no airtime to be found. Im stuck doing one more day tomorrow i really wish i could go somewhere else but at this point i have to make the best of it so im wondering how anyone has fun here? I loved Pleasure Beach Loved Oakwood but thia one is not it!
I got on all the major coasters except for spinball whizzer I went on 13 then rita then galactica then the smiler with a fast track oblivion with fast track then wickerman then nemesis
5:30 my route may not have been the fastest but it’s the shortest of the alternative 3 displayed
hey quick question if i were to go on a thursday with expected rain what would be the fastest route
edit: this is so specific because i've got a school trip to alton towers and i searched all the detals for it
Schl days r usually busy cus many schls go at the same time but idk
If you go alton towers alone. Can I use the single rider que on smiler or do I need too buy a fast track
im going on the 10th April 2024 for my first time only for 1 day and im praying that i can fit all the thrills in🙏
Hi, I know I'm very late but planning a trip to Alton towers soon, I would love it if you could provide any of the data used for this video. It would be great to have all the average queue times you used but idk if you can share it, but I would mainly like to know how long it would take to walk from each ride to each ride, would be really helpful, great video thanks :D
I eat in the queues, so I Don!t need a lunch break
Definitely not me excessively revising for my alton towers trip in April because last one was such an epic fail and we didn't plan enough and barely got on anything- I'm going proper hardcore mode this time lol
Thank you!
Its pretty simple. Go on a weds when all kids are school. I did, managed 28 coaster rides I'm 8 hours.
Exactly, offpeak days are the best! :)
Hello
The thing is, if you were to go onto The Smiler, even if you are in a group, you are all better off going into the single rider queue as they will put in groups and then fill in single riders where possible. The single rider queue will be SIGNIFICANTLY shorter but I don’t h think the time for it would be on the queue times website.
Also, since the rides near the entrance get filled up first, I recommend you go to the Forbidden Valley first.
I’ve only ever been on the smiler with single rider but I’m finally gonna try using the normal queue with a group and see if it’s that bad
I always go to nemesis first cuz it’s at the back of the park. Although my personal model is flawed as everything else seems to get super busy after (more than nemi)
you post this exactly a week after i went, coulda used that then! (thats a joke, i went with fastrack - love your vids (: )
ha ha, fast track is always a good bet! Thanks, that means a lot :)
When I’m with my family we usually eat in the line so no time is wasted 😂 it also keeps up busy
please do this for other parks too like some dutch and german parks (with europapark being 2 days) and then include dark rides
Coaster Bot’s back; and more bot-like than ever!
Yeah! :)
POV u go to smiler 10 mins before the rides open : as soon as all the rides open, the smiler is the only ride that isnt open
Fun fact: I don’t have lunch at Alton towers I just pack some snacks and eat them through out the day
Fair enough :)
@@coasterbot I would recommend doing it so at midday you won’t have to wait as long
just to let you know the park gates open at 9 so people can que up for the rides am=n hour befor hand
Oh yeah I love fOrBiDdEn fOrEsT 😂😂
I was there last week. They opened the monorail and gates at 9, and rides opened at 10.
I went for the galactica entrance and ride nemesis 2 min que
And then did the smiler 45 min que
Then rita 30 min que
Th13teen 15 min que
Wickerman 25 min que
Oblivion 5 min que
GaLactica 5min que plus lunch break plus walking 😎😎
Rocked up at 8 30
My routine:
Thirteen
Rita
Nemesis
Galactica
Oblivion
Lunch in smiler queue
Spin ball wizzer
Wickerman
Going in about 2 weeks, on a weekday. Obviously this video is somewhat outdated, but I'll follow it loosely and report back!
If it's a weekday you should do pretty well regardless! :)
Great video
Thanks!
Me who doesn't eat food when at theme parks (wastes time) and pulls out the RAPs my group has
Gonna try to blitz 11 rides on August 14 (on peak 😭)
I'd get in a smiler queue before it opens then go to wickerman then galactic and nemesis then to thirteen and rita
Can you do this with Hershey Park
I rode 6 rides in 3 hours, on a thursday, arriving at 2pm
What about spinball whizzer?
Does Spinball Exist Anymore?
I’d skip Thirteen since it’s a “family” coaster
Bring back the operations series!!!
alright.
now what order do i go on them in terms of fear
Great video. The question is, will the temporary rides added for this year which have proved to soften the queue times on the major rides stay? Otherwise the average queue times stated in the data will increase, potentially ruining this plan.
Yes but it's safe to assume the queues for the temp rides would be distributed relatively evenly which means the order of rides in this video still applies
Thanks, and that's a fantastic question. I hope Alton Towers have realised that adding more rides does help soften the queues elsewhere. Perhaps we'll see more permanent flat rides in the future.
To be honest, there's a lot that could ruin the plan, even simply a ride being closed! :)
You said forbidden forest
I am going to Walibi Belgium next week to try Kondaa, any enthusiast that has already been there and could tell me the best way to avoid long wait times?
Did you already go there? I visited the first nocturne Saturday. I can definitely give you some hints!
I'm going on Friday, might try and copy this strategy! Although if stuff is closed then it quickly devolves
Best of luck, and that's very true!
Try this instead ...i always use this when I go it is the fastest way around the park by a long shot .... get to main gate before 9.20am they usually let you go into the park to que for a ride so start with wicker man get on and off that by 10.10am head to 13 next ride this and Rita before 11am even get a ride on hex while you wait on skyride opening at 11am next take skyride over and you will be at forbidden valley for 11.10am do galactica first and then nemesis all before 12am as it is still earlyin the day this is possible ...then head over to oblivion while eating a hot dog from a quick service 😉 ride oblivion usually a 20 min que this time of day and then single rider the smiler all before 1pm this works and I have done this on packed days 🤯😛the reason this works is because you ahead of the crowds.. the two biggest ques all day is wicker and smiler by doing what I said above this eliminates them.. you get a ride on wicker with next to no que then head to the rest of the rides while most the people in the park get stuck in smiler and wickermans que in the morning the you single rider smiler later as that's the quicker way to do this 😀
i do 13, rita, galactica, nemesis, wickerman, spinball, oblivion, smiler
6:09 just take sky ride to forbidden valley do Galactica and nemesis and take the sky ride down to mutiny bay?
That's true! Sometimes the queue for the sky ride is longer than just walking though
Ik but it easier than walking, its what we always do at the park from forbidden valley to the towers but we do have a ride access pass so yeh
What a coincidence, I've been thinking about a small python project needed for my study. Could I take a look at the code itself somewhere?
What I did before was go through the gates make my way over to nemisis and galactica then get the line thing back over to the dark forest for thirteen or Rita then go on the other one then go to x-sector for smiler and oblivion
This was on a day where kids was at school everything was like 5 minute ques so I got on everything 3 or 4 times
Spinball wizzer is also a major rollercoaster
idk why im watching this bc im going on Thursday 31st March 2022 with my school, so i doubt i will have to queue unless lots of kids from my school (Year7, My Year, Year9, Year10 and Year11)
It shouldn't be very busy on that Thursday, you're right :)
Where’s spin ball wizzes
15 minutes to walk there? At Magic Mountain in CA that's a close ride. Everything in Magic Mountain is really far away from everything else, but on the giant plus side, all that walking, and it really is a mountain (big hill), so you can eat whatever you want because you are burning crazy calories the whole day.
Google Maps says to walk from X2 to Scream is 16 minutes (1,3km/0.81mi).
Sounds like Magic Mountain and Alton Towers are roughly the same scale. Though, Alton Towers has a big valley in the middle of it, whilst SFMM seems to be filled with ride after ride! :)
Can you give us the application to calculate the queue times?
I would be very happy 😉😁
ik im late but this would be AMAZING
Are you allowed to eat a packed lunch on queues?
Me who has a Ride Access Pass:
"I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you."
For some reason, I had thought that Alton Towers had more than seven coasters…Are you ever planning to give your optimum route a test yourself?
I might try it out one day, perhaps next season on an off peak day to see how well the times line up :)
@Coaster History Spinball Whizzer, is, to some degree quite a big coaster.
Should be easy with no Nemy... also, go during a school day, it's usually quite empty in there...
Very true!
I never eat lunch at a theme parks, got no time for that.
ha ha love it :)
This works if smiler is open lol going tomorrow and I worry it'll still be closed
ha ha that's true, if rides are broken there's not much you can do!
@@coasterbot unfortunately not hopefully it reopens either on the 31st or the 1st and I haven't ridden the smiler since 2018
Did fully miss the memo that Spinball Whizzer is not an Alton Towers roller coaster anymore. 😬🤣🤓
4:13 - forbidden valley*
lol
oops