@@DashDrones my guess would be the energy crisis has shrunk the perceived market. I've seen comments from people selling theirs because of the cost of leccy, tho' I suspect these are people who couldn't really afford it in the first place.
@@AbouttheHouse0 yeah, I understand though, it's not made clear when buying, the cost of maintenance plus energy is pricey. Lay z spa estimate the weekly electricity usage at £7-10 🤣 best joke I've heard in ages..
Nice review, I've got one and put 100mm insulating panel in the top cover . Works great , i turned heater off for 25 hrs ,temp dropped from 35 to 27c this week .
Can. Say thank you really appreciate your videos as I have just purchased a lazy spar ibiza and yet to set it up. But watching your videos has helped me understand what I need to do Thanks again Darren
You really are a star for making this videos. You are quite scientific in your approach based on time and environment variables, and you even explain this ! What a great guy - I'm about to re-set up my spa after being away in the winter, so one of these covers will surely be put on once its up and running ! thanks again for these great videos and your methodical way of explaning them. The spa companys need to pay you to do this !
I have the paris model and got the medium size, its an excellent fit and looking forward to enjoying my spa knowing I've made some savings thanks to this excellent cover ! Thanks again !
The difference in the weather for the two weeks made more difference than I thought. Defo saving 45%, maybe even 50%. During these hot sunny days the tub can even put on a degree, losing just 3 overnight.
Thank you! You too! Keep an eye on the description, Clever Co have offered me a 10% off code for viewers (UK & EU). I'm waiting on the code to give out
Can you help me ? I was wondering is it more economical to keep your spa running all day every day at a temperature a faction lower than desired, then turning up the heat when in use. Or should you run the spa intermittently / every other day as an example to make a costings saving ? Chris
Thanks for the reviews, I managed to get a St Moritz end of season for Half Price from B&Q, upsized from a smaller Lazy Spa due to the size of my grandchildren rapidly changing, anything to help the running costs is good so cover ordered direct from Clever Spa who seem to be competitive on price. Many Thanks quick question have you or anyone else gone down the route of Non Chlorine treatments if so the pros and cons, Many Thanks great videos.
Thank you sir... informative video and your previous unboxing video was very helpful too. I actually purchased one so looking forward to receiving it. Unfortunately I was too late to use your promo code but still purchased it anyway :)
Having been impressed with the cover, I think there would be scope to slip another cover on top. Clearly you’re not going to get another 35% improvement in efficiency, but you might get another 10% Thoughts?
I've been thinking of doing exactly this... Got one already and definitely think another would fit over... And as you say would definitely increase the insulation properties 👍
@@scottbrain9629 I took the plunge and ordered a 2nd cover. As expected it fits perfectly (actually works really well as you can leave the opposite side of the flap unzipped to the first cover. This gives a much better coverage of the pipes to the heating unit. I will feedback as to what difference I find.
I'll try and explain how it would work with an example. To keep the maths easy let's assume a bare tub loses 500W and the cover cuts this by 25%. So a cover would cut our fictional tubs loses to 375W. If we added a second cover we would save 25% of 375w (=94W), thus the loses are reduced to 281W. Two 35% covers will save 58% used together.
@@scottbrain9629 only initial testing results so far (due to weather being so variable as to make it difficult to assess consistently for any length of time), however over this weekend with the tub maintained at a constant 38c and used for 50 mins at 4pm each day the results are as follows (starting temperature of water on both days of 36c); - with one cover - total consumption in a 24hr period of 16.4 kWh - with two covers - total consumption in a 24hr period of 12.9 kWh. Obviously far from scientific from such limited data, but I’ll update when I get a longer period of consistent weather to test.
Hi.. so can I assume if we are currently paying say £8 a day. If we bought 1 cover we could expect to pay around 5.50 a day and if we put 2 covers on we may only pay £5 a day? This is on an inflatable tub.. I know someone with a hard shell premium tub and she pays around £2 a day but all the panels are insulated thanks
I'd be surprised if you're paying £8 a day, more like a fiver I would think (unless you're using it every day). The results in the video, though good, were a shade on the pessimistic side. Over a longer term I'm defo seeing saving in the 45% plus region. That's using the tub 3-4 times a week. The exact savings depend on various factors but for ease of illustration let's say it's about one half. So, starting at £8pd, one cover will cut this to £4pd and a second cover will cut this to £2pd. More realistically, you might be down to £3pd. Still substantial and two covers will pay for themselves in two months! This might seem crazy, but the bottom line is that the more expensive leccy gets, the quicker the payback. Don't forget to insulate under the tub. See here: th-cam.com/video/N45mC8BGvBM/w-d-xo.html
@@AbouttheHouse0 Thank you for replying.. gonna go for 2 covers..why not! That would make it very much viable as you said.. thanks for your kind feedback :).. Shaun
@@AbouttheHouse0 Also, I will be placing orders today and will use your links for some reflective stuff linked in the other video, maybe more floor mats (only have one set on the base of our summerhouse), plus gonna order 2 covers for our cleverspa 8263 - so might as well also ask you the following (sorry! :)) - would you recommend any other covers, other than cleverspas own covers? and finally do you know if any other filters fit this model - more than happy to buy from cleverspa but if there's an amazon alternative as good id be happy to use your links.. cheers
@@LawnRight thank you very kind. What I've found with the ecleverspa thermal cover is that in the very strong sun we've been having it has faded a fair bit and this has weakened the outer material layer. So I've started using my winter cover over it as well s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Af6s7a I got 239x58 - fits great. It's dirt cheap but effective. I got a 4 pack of PoolPure filters last year. They are out of stock at the moment, but these Bestway filters are available. if you wash them like I showed these six should last a whole season amzn.to/3SkbcpT
I think this cover is definitely a great investment to make! Thanks for showing real world results :) Can I ask about when you heat your tub? e.g. if you use it 2 days consecutively, what temperature would you keep it at overnight before turning it to 40c a few hours before use? And when would you turn it off entirely? I'm not too sure what's most effective heating wise between uses. I tend to keep it at 32c when not in use if I'm using it the next day, and 25c if I'm not using it for 2-3 days but I'm not sure at what point I should just turn it off?
Keep an eye on the description, Clever Co have offered me a 10% off code for viewers (UK & EU). I'm waiting on the code to give out ++++++ It's more economic to keep the tub warm than to repeatedly let it cool and reheat. Between uses we keep ours at 36, 38 if we know we are going to use it and then up to 40 only if it's colder weather. The only time ours ever drops below 36 is if we've used the airjets extensively
I must get one of these covers. I've recently bought a Gas Burner and am running my tub from that. 22c to 40c in 2.5 hours. All im running is a 10w pump. Great savings
@@AbouttheHouse0 there's loads on TH-cam here. But here is a link for one. th-cam.com/video/T58Vg417qs4/w-d-xo.html my whole setup coust around 180 pounds.
Hi. I have the same spa, I watched a video stating how really we only need to run a filter about 4-6 hours a day, am I right that we can’t turn it off on this spa without also turning the heater off? Doing anything I can to save money running it, but I like to keep the heater on to keep it at 38 degrees rather than re heat all the time from cold.. thank you
Thank for the information 👍 Also, a friend of mine told me that he's seen a solar mat that is placed inside the tub and will keep the tub at 30ish through the summer months. Obviously any extra heat would have to come from the pump. Just wondered if you've seen one of these? Be a interesting video too 😊
Thanks so much for sharing the video, the savings are a real eye opener. We've just bought a Lay-Z-Spa Milan, does anyone have any experience with these covers with a Milan? Looking at the sizing (the spa is 196cm diameter), I'd need a large cover, but that's 208cm - which isn't going to be very snug and therefore impact the heat retention - like wearing a coat that's a few sizes too big for you. Be great to hear people's experience.
I have a problem with the rcd. when trying to turn on after an E02 came on and cleaned the filter as was dirty. Keeps tripping out. Any ideas what to do?
Did you get the code for the discount? Just set up our spa couple of days ago. Palm Springs from Costco at £350. Couldn’t pass up. Would be keen to retain some of the heat given were north east Scotland!
@About the House. Great video. Please can you advise if the 1. CLEVERSPA UNIVERSAL THERMAL HOT TUB COVER: MEDIUM ROUND 208CM or 2. CLEVERSPA UNIVERSAL THERMAL HOT TUB COVER: LARGE ROUND 225CM will fit the LayZ Spa St Moritz?
the pitcher of the reactor was funny we have a cover for ours to we have the same hot tub so before you all start running off to your shed to build a nuclear reactor just by 1 of them it's easier and a lot safer
I try to bring a little humour into my videos so they provide some entertainment value and are easier to watch rather than just being cold hard facts. I'm glad to hear it works
Thanks for creating all these videos!! had our tub 2 weeks, found your video on the timer set up, ended up here... bought the cover and have nearly halved our energy use 😊 I'd have found out about the covers eventually, but chuffed to be making savings from the very start!
Stil don’t no if this cover wud benefit me. Just put ours up for the next 5ish months, I take down in winter months. If the cover is £100ish I don’t think I’d get back what I put in compared to electricity price n price of cover
I haven't done detailed payback calculations but it should pay back in 5 months I expect. For us it will easily pay back in about 4 months. Then next year is all saving Keep an eye on the description, Clever Co have offered me a 10% off code for viewers (UK & EU). I'm waiting on the code to give out, that'll help payback
So r these covers to use after you’ve used the hot tub n the temperature still hot Or when your firing up the hot tub to build the temperature up more quicker n to keep it in, or both As we just got one
Thank you for your video’s. They’ve been very helpful. Do you know where you can buy one in EU region? The only ones I found are in The UK and to order from there I’ll have to pay for customs fee. The shipping was already about 35€. So it’ll be quite expensive.
Thank you, unfortunately the code didn’t work and it seems that they don’t ship outside of France. The Range- webpage seems to ship to several countries, so maybe I’ll try that one.
@@AbouttheHouse0 I wouldn’t mind, when I bought mine I forgot to add the code and didn’t realise until the order was confirmed! I have pointed a few people to this video who have asked about thermal covers, so hopefully some of them managed to save themselves some money.
I'll add a link in the morning. Yeah, the saving is significant. Better than I was expecting. It's enough to negate the recent rises in leccy we've just suffered in the UK. Cutting the losses like this is enabling me to leave the tub OFF during the day and only heat it during economy 7 hours, which I could not do last year. So more savings. (obviously I heat if it's in use too) AND it's doing this now, when the weather is still cool (we've had some frosts here this last week), daytime temps 10-12C, though the last couple of days have been sunny. Easy peasy to slip on and off.
For instance you stated in the first video that you were measuring 400 Upm during Autumn (avg 15c daily)... now during Summer you are using 519 to 600 ?... With the cover on, the number of units per month given is the same as 1st videos without
🎥 Lay Z Spa running costs: th-cam.com/video/faXmTUEuEiM/w-d-xo.html
FYI, there's a third off at Argos at the mo, slightly longer delivery times on some, but the St Moritz is less than £390 delivered.. 😳
@@DashDrones wow! at that price, surely they are older 2020 models?
@@AbouttheHouse0 nope, latest models! Had to go all out and get one 🤣
@@DashDrones my guess would be the energy crisis has shrunk the perceived market. I've seen comments from people selling theirs because of the cost of leccy, tho' I suspect these are people who couldn't really afford it in the first place.
@@AbouttheHouse0 yeah, I understand though, it's not made clear when buying, the cost of maintenance plus energy is pricey. Lay z spa estimate the weekly electricity usage at £7-10 🤣 best joke I've heard in ages..
Nice review, I've got one and put 100mm insulating panel in the top cover . Works great , i turned heater off for 25 hrs ,temp dropped from 35 to 27c this week .
Over a whole week?
@@sarah_751 not whole week, I turned it off for 25 hours but only lost 8 degrees
@@oddsandwindsocks5905 That’s great, thank you!😊
Can. Say thank you really appreciate your videos as I have just purchased a lazy spar ibiza and yet to set it up. But watching your videos has helped me understand what I need to do
Thanks again Darren
Glad to help 👍
Ordered a cover after watching. Very helpful video. Thanks
Great to hear!
Likewise. Thanks.
You really are a star for making this videos. You are quite scientific in your approach based on time and environment variables, and you even explain this ! What a great guy - I'm about to re-set up my spa after being away in the winter, so one of these covers will surely be put on once its up and running ! thanks again for these great videos and your methodical way of explaning them. The spa companys need to pay you to do this !
I have the paris model and got the medium size, its an excellent fit and looking forward to enjoying my spa knowing I've made some savings thanks to this excellent cover ! Thanks again !
Thanks for the video! Great to hear about the savings!!
The difference in the weather for the two weeks made more difference than I thought. Defo saving 45%, maybe even 50%. During these hot sunny days the tub can even put on a degree, losing just 3 overnight.
Hello. I love your videos. Do you keep your lazy spa heat setting on all the time? Some people say it’s better to never turn the heat off? X
I like honest reviews
I try to provide good data derived by the "scientific method" as best as possible in a DIY environment.
Thank you for sharing your information I appreciate it I just might have to get one have a beautiful day God bless you always
Thank you! You too! Keep an eye on the description, Clever Co have offered me a 10% off code for viewers (UK & EU). I'm waiting on the code to give out
Can you help me ? I was wondering is it more economical to keep your spa running all day every day at a temperature a faction lower than desired, then turning up the heat when in use. Or should you run the spa intermittently / every other day as an example to make a costings saving ? Chris
Thanks for the reviews, I managed to get a St Moritz end of season for Half Price from B&Q, upsized from a smaller Lazy Spa due to the size of my grandchildren rapidly changing, anything to help the running costs is good so cover ordered direct from Clever Spa who seem to be competitive on price. Many Thanks quick question have you or anyone else gone down the route of Non Chlorine treatments if so the pros and cons,
Many Thanks great videos.
Thank you sir... informative video and your previous unboxing video was very helpful too. I actually purchased one so looking forward to receiving it. Unfortunately I was too late to use your promo code but still purchased it anyway :)
Glad I could help
Thank you! I love your videos. They are so informative and helpful!
Having been impressed with the cover, I think there would be scope to slip another cover on top.
Clearly you’re not going to get another 35% improvement in efficiency, but you might get another 10%
Thoughts?
I've been thinking of doing exactly this... Got one already and definitely think another would fit over... And as you say would definitely increase the insulation properties 👍
@@scottbrain9629 I took the plunge and ordered a 2nd cover. As expected it fits perfectly (actually works really well as you can leave the opposite side of the flap unzipped to the first cover. This gives a much better coverage of the pipes to the heating unit.
I will feedback as to what difference I find.
@@mattbarratt3481 brilliant 👍 look forward to seeing what benefit it gives
I'll try and explain how it would work with an example. To keep the maths easy let's assume a bare tub loses 500W and the cover cuts this by 25%. So a cover would cut our fictional tubs loses to 375W. If we added a second cover we would save 25% of 375w (=94W), thus the loses are reduced to 281W.
Two 35% covers will save 58% used together.
@@scottbrain9629 only initial testing results so far (due to weather being so variable as to make it difficult to assess consistently for any length of time), however over this weekend with the tub maintained at a constant 38c and used for 50 mins at 4pm each day the results are as follows (starting temperature of water on both days of 36c);
- with one cover - total consumption in a 24hr period of 16.4 kWh
- with two covers - total consumption in a 24hr period of 12.9 kWh.
Obviously far from scientific from such limited data, but I’ll update when I get a longer period of consistent weather to test.
Hi.. so can I assume if we are currently paying say £8 a day. If we bought 1 cover we could expect to pay around 5.50 a day and if we put 2 covers on we may only pay £5 a day? This is on an inflatable tub.. I know someone with a hard shell premium tub and she pays around £2 a day but all the panels are insulated thanks
I'd be surprised if you're paying £8 a day, more like a fiver I would think (unless you're using it every day).
The results in the video, though good, were a shade on the pessimistic side. Over a longer term I'm defo seeing saving in the 45% plus region. That's using the tub 3-4 times a week.
The exact savings depend on various factors but for ease of illustration let's say it's about one half.
So, starting at £8pd, one cover will cut this to £4pd and a second cover will cut this to £2pd.
More realistically, you might be down to £3pd. Still substantial and two covers will pay for themselves in two months! This might seem crazy, but the bottom line is that the more expensive leccy gets, the quicker the payback.
Don't forget to insulate under the tub. See here: th-cam.com/video/N45mC8BGvBM/w-d-xo.html
@@AbouttheHouse0 Thank you for replying.. gonna go for 2 covers..why not! That would make it very much viable as you said.. thanks for your kind feedback :).. Shaun
@@AbouttheHouse0 Also, I will be placing orders today and will use your links for some reflective stuff linked in the other video, maybe more floor mats (only have one set on the base of our summerhouse), plus gonna order 2 covers for our cleverspa 8263 - so might as well also ask you the following (sorry! :)) - would you recommend any other covers, other than cleverspas own covers? and finally do you know if any other filters fit this model - more than happy to buy from cleverspa but if there's an amazon alternative as good id be happy to use your links.. cheers
@@LawnRight thank you very kind. What I've found with the ecleverspa thermal cover is that in the very strong sun we've been having it has faded a fair bit and this has weakened the outer material layer. So I've started using my winter cover over it as well s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Af6s7a I got 239x58 - fits great. It's dirt cheap but effective.
I got a 4 pack of PoolPure filters last year. They are out of stock at the moment, but these Bestway filters are available. if you wash them like I showed these six should last a whole season amzn.to/3SkbcpT
@@LawnRight the medium cleverspa cover is on Amazon at just 79 quid. Not sure about the large one though
amzn.to/3UpO1ft
I think this cover is definitely a great investment to make! Thanks for showing real world results :)
Can I ask about when you heat your tub?
e.g. if you use it 2 days consecutively, what temperature would you keep it at overnight before turning it to 40c a few hours before use?
And when would you turn it off entirely?
I'm not too sure what's most effective heating wise between uses. I tend to keep it at 32c when not in use if I'm using it the next day, and 25c if I'm not using it for 2-3 days but I'm not sure at what point I should just turn it off?
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Keep an eye on the description, Clever Co have offered me a 10% off code for viewers (UK & EU). I'm waiting on the code to give out
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It's more economic to keep the tub warm than to repeatedly let it cool and reheat. Between uses we keep ours at 36, 38 if we know we are going to use it and then up to 40 only if it's colder weather.
The only time ours ever drops below 36 is if we've used the airjets extensively
see my reply to Gerard
Fantastic video very informative
So do you need to keep the heater on 24/7 or only put it on a few hrs before you use it ? When using the thermal cover ?
I reheat during economy 7 hours, otherwise I'd leave it on.
I must get one of these covers. I've recently bought a Gas Burner and am running my tub from that. 22c to 40c in 2.5 hours. All im running is a 10w pump. Great savings
@@jasongourley6105 got a link to that gas burner? Do you run it off a propane bottle?
@@AbouttheHouse0 there's loads on TH-cam here. But here is a link for one. th-cam.com/video/T58Vg417qs4/w-d-xo.html my whole setup coust around 180 pounds.
i cannot find this cover anywhere and the link didn't work
Yeah, apparently Cleverspa have stopped making them. Have a look on eBay, a few sellers are still selling old stock fairly cheap
Do you turn the heater off when the cover is on
Hi. I have the same spa, I watched a video stating how really we only need to run a filter about 4-6 hours a day, am I right that we can’t turn it off on this spa without also turning the heater off? Doing anything I can to save money running it, but I like to keep the heater on to keep it at 38 degrees rather than re heat all the time from cold.. thank you
Hi would this fit the helsinki
Thank for the information 👍
Also, a friend of mine told me that he's seen a solar mat that is placed inside the tub and will keep the tub at 30ish through the summer months. Obviously any extra heat would have to come from the pump.
Just wondered if you've seen one of these?
Be a interesting video too 😊
I have seen these, but didn't see one big enough for our Moritz. I may have another look and see if they really do help. Thanks for the tip.
Thanks so much for sharing the video, the savings are a real eye opener. We've just bought a Lay-Z-Spa Milan, does anyone have any experience with these covers with a Milan? Looking at the sizing (the spa is 196cm diameter), I'd need a large cover, but that's 208cm - which isn't going to be very snug and therefore impact the heat retention - like wearing a coat that's a few sizes too big for you. Be great to hear people's experience.
I have a problem with the rcd. when trying to turn on after an E02 came on and cleaned the filter as was dirty. Keeps tripping out. Any ideas what to do?
Did you get the code for the discount?
Just set up our spa couple of days ago. Palm Springs from Costco at £350. Couldn’t pass up. Would be keen to retain some of the heat given were north east Scotland!
Yep, it's in the description now
@About the House. Great video. Please can you advise if the 1. CLEVERSPA UNIVERSAL THERMAL HOT TUB COVER: MEDIUM ROUND 208CM or 2. CLEVERSPA UNIVERSAL THERMAL HOT TUB COVER: LARGE ROUND 225CM will fit the LayZ Spa St Moritz?
Whats the size of cover for a lay z spa paris 196cm wide?
your videos are great
Where can i find this thermoblanket .i have Lay-Z-Spa Milan AirJet Plus
See the description. There is a 10% off code for the UK and French Clever Co sites
this is great. did you ever get a discount code?
THERM10 doesn't work is there another code?
Sadly it seems the code has expired. With the way leccy prices are going it'd still be good value at double the price!
the pitcher of the reactor was funny we have a cover for ours to we have the same hot tub so before you all start running off to your shed to build a nuclear reactor just by 1 of them it's easier and a lot safer
I try to bring a little humour into my videos so they provide some entertainment value and are easier to watch rather than just being cold hard facts. I'm glad to hear it works
Thanks for creating all these videos!!
had our tub 2 weeks, found your video on the timer set up, ended up here... bought the cover and have nearly halved our energy use 😊
I'd have found out about the covers eventually, but chuffed to be making savings from the very start!
Stil don’t no if this cover wud benefit me. Just put ours up for the next 5ish months, I take down in winter months. If the cover is £100ish I don’t think I’d get back what I put in compared to electricity price n price of cover
I haven't done detailed payback calculations but it should pay back in 5 months I expect. For us it will easily pay back in about 4 months. Then next year is all saving
Keep an eye on the description, Clever Co have offered me a 10% off code for viewers (UK & EU). I'm waiting on the code to give out, that'll help payback
So r these covers to use after you’ve used the hot tub n the temperature still hot
Or when your firing up the hot tub to build the temperature up more quicker n to keep it in, or both
As we just got one
@@scottp4547 Use all the time, except when tub is in use (obviously, lol)
Thank you for your video’s. They’ve been very helpful. Do you know where you can buy one in EU region? The only ones I found are in The UK and to order from there I’ll have to pay for customs fee. The shipping was already about 35€. So it’ll be quite expensive.
I've just put a link to the Cleverspa French boutique in the description. Clever Co have confirmed the code works there too. 👍
Thank you, unfortunately the code didn’t work and it seems that they don’t ship outside of France. The Range- webpage seems to ship to several countries, so maybe I’ll try that one.
The discount code has expired 😞
Yeah, I know. It was supposed to be perpetual too. I'm peeved about that myself.
@@AbouttheHouse0 I wouldn’t mind, when I bought mine I forgot to add the code and didn’t realise until the order was confirmed! I have pointed a few people to this video who have asked about thermal covers, so hopefully some of them managed to save themselves some money.
Wyatt at Planet Rock is bbigging you up, your channel is going to be getting a lot more viewes ;)
Do you have a link for the cover? 30-40% is a huge saving, how difficult is it to remove and put back on?
I'll add a link in the morning.
Yeah, the saving is significant. Better than I was expecting. It's enough to negate the recent rises in leccy we've just suffered in the UK.
Cutting the losses like this is enabling me to leave the tub OFF during the day and only heat it during economy 7 hours, which I could not do last year. So more savings. (obviously I heat if it's in use too)
AND it's doing this now, when the weather is still cool (we've had some frosts here this last week), daytime temps 10-12C, though the last couple of days have been sunny.
Easy peasy to slip on and off.
@@AbouttheHouse0 lovely, cheers👍
@@DashDrones there's a link in description plus a code for 10% off now
@@AbouttheHouse0 😭they don't ship to Ireland.
@@DashDrones bummer! Do The Range ship to Ireland? They have them
The units per month usage without a cover stated here are dramatically different than your running costs video 🤔
For instance you stated in the first video that you were measuring 400 Upm during Autumn (avg 15c daily)... now during Summer you are using 519 to 600 ?... With the cover on, the number of units per month given is the same as 1st videos without
Selling mine, too many black marks!
Are you replacing it with something else?
@@AbouttheHouse0 No, it's too much ballache