A thing to remember about kitchen permissions: tallow is available for cooking by default. After you render a new type of fat make sure to deselect that if you want to use it for making soap
10:25-10:30 if you find that you can't make soap and you are missing unrotten tallow, make sure you are not cooking your tallow. Very important for soap making.
HUGE for soap making. It can also be very time sensitive as if they've used all the tallow it doestn show up in the cooking tasks menu. you have to ban the use of tallow AFTER the dwarves render the fat in to tallow but BEFORE its used in a meal. honestly pretty frustrating.
While planting does determine crop size, planting skill is also increased by the harvesting task (they're both the Farming (Fields) labor). So ideally, planters should also harvest if you're looking to skill up/increase yields.
id love a tutorial on the work orders screen, specifically on how the screen with the conditions and inequality stuff works. I don't understand how it works if you have multiple conditions, like if you have make pig iron if you have more than 10 coal and more than 10 iron. Does it only go if both are fulfilled, or is it like an or statement where only one has to be fulfilled to be active?
4:47 Think you can make a work around for this by making a custom labor which has the labors you want all your dwarf to do and set it to everybody, then for the specific dwarf deselect the custom labor and the select the specific tasks you want.
I create custom labors for Animal Training and Siege Operation in every new game. Thought about specializing/generalizing even further with entire work industries so my woodworkers, fishers, and crafters get more specialized rather than everyone being mediocre.
You can set a task to Everybody Does This after limiting a dwarf's tasks, even though it initially limits it. The checkmark become grayed out but I assume it makes those individual dwarves limit their tasks, but enables all dwarves to do the task in question
What does an automated kitchen do vs. a non-automated kitchen? With "automate kitchen" on, I still have to set up a work order to make meals. What do the work orders look like when "automate kitchen" is off?
Whats excatly the difference between Stonecutting, Stonecarving and Masonry? Which one is for making Thrones and Cabinets etc. Stonecutting or Masonry?
One thing I cannot find anywhere is what are the precise labors covered by those default roles? Like do stonecutters or engravers also do masonry? I can't tell sometimes what new custom ones are overlapping on the roles of the default.
Every job is automatically assigned to the dwarf who has the highest skill by default. A lot of them are not included in the labors unless you make a specific roll for them.
You didn't mention that if you assign woodcutting and mining to the same dwarf, it breaks their brain permanently and they become incapable of doing either. Which is a rather major quirk to the system. So as it is the player can break their save just by clicking a couple times on the labor menu, even though there is no intuitive reason a new player should he aware that a dwarf can't both mine and occasionally chop trees too. Major bug sadness.
What, that is news to me. I've been swapping both and had dwarves assigned to both with no issue. They simply have the extra task of swapping between mining and wood cutting.
@@BlindiRL Idk man I admit I'm a new player to the steam release, but it happened to me like three times until I finally searched forum discussion threads and encountered people warning about assigning labor duties that require different tools (pick, axe, other battle weapons). I checked everything like dwarf mood, that they're not busy, burrows, z-level accessibility, etc and nothing got them to mine or chop again. Because I wasn't saving frequently enough and I would notice the problem too late, I just decided to start a new fort when it happened. I have a few mods but none have anything to do with labor and they're all aesthetic. After I started carefully ensuring that no dwarf is assigned mining and chopping in a new fort, I haven't encountered the issue again.
@@BlindiRL I don't know if it's just me, but I had some dwarves refuse to put down their axes. I don't know what caused it, but once I took him off woodcutting he went to actual mining.
Great vid. One question though: Is it REALLY beneficial (besides jobs related to metal) to create new jobs for certain dwarves besides a good'ol "IWANTTO" reason? Or "should" i just let them run around doing whatever and let game systems take care of everything? Not asking for a definitive answare - do always/never, just something that you know from your experiance. I feel like after giving specialisations to my dwarves everything went to shi...i mean slowed down drastically. The obvious thing that cross my mind is that i fcuked up something - which is a thought that i've decided to promptly ignore.
Yea the also find you that assigning workers to jobs will not make the prioritize the job more then they already do (at least i dont think so) all that it dose is to give a particular dwarf more responsibility to do. Good is you want to make dwarfs be legendary at something but asside from metals things dont increase in value by much
Skilled dwarves work faster and create higher value items if possible, if you're trying to make the best possible military gear or get the most value out of your gem-encrusted furniture then you absolutely want custom details. Alternatively you can make a dedicated workshop for high-level tasks, assign one dwarf to it, then queue work orders from said workshop to keep your important jobs separate from the rest. And you have guildhalls to get lower skilled dwarves trained up as an alternative to burning through materials making junk.
Sometimes getting it done Now is important, which is why like I don't see any reason to select people to do hauling. But I don't want an unskilled rando to do the planting just because my good planter is momentarily distracted? But I won't select JUST the amazing planter, I will also pick a backup person to start learning it. Otherwise, I've found, you end up with every dwarf having a bunch of dabbling/novice level skills and nobody's noticeably faster. But you can't just wait on the best possible person to do every possible job all the time or nothing gets done and you've got nobody ready when that one dwarf can't handle the workload. I think it mostly only works if there are relatively few freely-available tasks, though? So it takes some setup, and at first things take slightly longer to get done. At first, everybody has to wear a few different hats, but over time I peel off high-demand things to be their own worker pool. It's worked pretty okay, though I've been experimenting so I haven't gotten anything past about 100 dwarves going at a time yet.
@@Nassifeh I am always impressed by my carpenter working faster with 1 carpenters shop then 6 other rando dwarfs. Edit: i was talking about him making beds and and The others making dors.
4:10 is a little confusing. So if you select one dwarf to only do a specific labor, it assumes you will want to specify every individual dwarf that does that labor from there on out? Otherwise only one person will end up doing it?
You tell the dwarf to only do the tasks that you specified, but inversely those tasks will only be done by the dwarves that you specified. It simply blocks the 'all dwarves do this task' option.
You can really basically just select the top few, since they're the ones who'd generally be picked by the system in any case, I think? Or if it's a workshop task you can just assign them their own workshop for it. It'd be nice if there was an equivalent assignment option for things that don't have workshops. I mostly find I want to assign lists specifically anyway, because usually I'd rather concentrate the skill usage on a few people even if it slightly slows tasks down.
Can you do a tutorial about work orders and managers? I had a manager with the organizer skill and within about 1 year, his organizing skill became rusty. I had work orders called in every now and then, but that rust never disappeared. How am I supposed to train said skill?
I love your vids Blind! Also the interview with Putnam was very cool. Could you do a tutorial on how to set up an arena? I have soooo many goblins caught, Im unsure how to deal with them. If I have the cage moved, the little buggers escape! Also is there an easy way to get magma from the magma sea to the surface without getting carpal tunnel? Lol. Cheers mate.
I don't know what automate kitchen does, but automate tannery makes your dwarves automatically queue up a tan hides task after you have an animal butchered.
I think: • Calcite ░ • Chalk ` • Dolomite ▓ • Limestone ▓ • Marble can be used as Flux stones to make Steel. But by default they can also be used as building stones. If you want them not to be used as building material, click that button.
I started playing 2 weeks ago and i fell like every new fortress i need to do 50 tab managements before i even unpause the game, every day i find that the game is missing more and more QoL and this is making me play less and less 😔 Anyone know if they have plans on improving mods? Everything is almost cosmetics only
I feel you. You wish do micromanage the dwarven jobs. Unfortunately as i find out you gimp yourself if you do that more then anything else. So the way that the system works is that your dwarf have a list of tasks to do he will prioritize the tasks that he is most good at automatically( the system decides who to send do a job based on who is the best available person to do the job) . if you make lets say a carpenter labor and assign a dwarf to that labor you essentially just give this responsibility to that dwarf and only that dwarf on top of his other tasks. ( i wish we would have a prioritization level on top of the current system.
3rd party has always done the QoL addons. We can assume that DFHack is coming to steam eventually and the spreadsheet layout of Dwarf Therapist is also amazing, again someday. Check out Lazy Noob pack as well. I use all of those to play the classic version including sprite packs to replace the ASCII display.
@@lethrahn dfhack alpha already works with steam version, you just need to install it manually (basically just unpack it to game folder, no other actions needed)
DFHack is always useful, even if for just a few really neat features. Dwarf Therapist is good for job minmaximg, but it's not necessary anymore. The Premium version does a much better job at assigning jobs. I only have 2-5 custom jobs at most and specialize miners, planters/harvesters and metalworking industry, doctors... And that's usually it. Also, restricting hauling to just a few dwarves, rest is handled by children. Giving up trying to minmax every job is a tip I'd give everyone, makes the game far more enjoyable. And you won't lose out on much at all.
TBH, just request/buy it from caravans. There are a lot of things you need only a little bit of that's easier to buy than set up and industry for (ie. clear and crystal glass for moods)
its way better than other DF youtube tutorials. have to listen to them at 2x speed just so i dont die of old age while they eplain stone densities from the wiki. T_T
Dwarves are brought water when wounded is to motivate them to get healthy. With booze they would lie down "sick" forever. It makes perfect sense.
A thing to remember about kitchen permissions: tallow is available for cooking by default. After you render a new type of fat make sure to deselect that if you want to use it for making soap
Also, if you're making cheese, you might want to disable cooking milk.
10:25-10:30 if you find that you can't make soap and you are missing unrotten tallow, make sure you are not cooking your tallow. Very important for soap making.
HUGE for soap making. It can also be very time sensitive as if they've used all the tallow it doestn show up in the cooking tasks menu.
you have to ban the use of tallow AFTER the dwarves render the fat in to tallow but BEFORE its used in a meal.
honestly pretty frustrating.
I wondered where all my tallow was going.....ty!
Your videos are amazing and bringing an entire new generation of Dwarf Fortress fanatics into the fold. Keep it up!
You can specialize a dwarf from the labor menu too, no need to go to the individual dwarf. The hammer icon is there near the checkmark.
In loving memory of Hauling:Only selected do this; none selected in Torchorb
hush you lolll
Wait, you get better yields from harvesting too? I thought crop size was only determined during the planting.
While planting does determine crop size, planting skill is also increased by the harvesting task (they're both the Farming (Fields) labor). So ideally, planters should also harvest if you're looking to skill up/increase yields.
He's saying if your farmer harvests, his skill improves. And if his skill improves, he gets better yields from plating in the future.
id love a tutorial on the work orders screen, specifically on how the screen with the conditions and inequality stuff works.
I don't understand how it works if you have multiple conditions, like if you have make pig iron if you have more than 10 coal and more than 10 iron. Does it only go if both are fulfilled, or is it like an or statement where only one has to be fulfilled to be active?
I really wish I had the ability to edit/remove the labors within the default jobs.
4:47 Think you can make a work around for this by making a custom labor which has the labors you want all your dwarf to do and set it to everybody, then for the specific dwarf deselect the custom labor and the select the specific tasks you want.
I create custom labors for Animal Training and Siege Operation in every new game. Thought about specializing/generalizing even further with entire work industries so my woodworkers, fishers, and crafters get more specialized rather than everyone being mediocre.
You can set a task to Everybody Does This after limiting a dwarf's tasks, even though it initially limits it. The checkmark become grayed out but I assume it makes those individual dwarves limit their tasks, but enables all dwarves to do the task in question
You assume or you know?
i am a dwarf and i'm digging a hole diggy diggy hole ... thanks for sharing all your Dwarf Fortress fun.
good song
What does an automated kitchen do vs. a non-automated kitchen? With "automate kitchen" on, I still have to set up a work order to make meals. What do the work orders look like when "automate kitchen" is off?
Automatically render fat.
Whats excatly the difference between Stonecutting, Stonecarving and Masonry? Which one is for making Thrones and Cabinets etc. Stonecutting or Masonry?
Your vids are great Blind! Keepum' comin' and I'll keep watching. There really should be links to your quick tutorials through the in-game tutorial.
One thing I cannot find anywhere is what are the precise labors covered by those default roles? Like do stonecutters or engravers also do masonry? I can't tell sometimes what new custom ones are overlapping on the roles of the default.
Every job is automatically assigned to the dwarf who has the highest skill by default. A lot of them are not included in the labors unless you make a specific roll for them.
I need this so badly. Thanks.
THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT!
You didn't mention that if you assign woodcutting and mining to the same dwarf, it breaks their brain permanently and they become incapable of doing either. Which is a rather major quirk to the system. So as it is the player can break their save just by clicking a couple times on the labor menu, even though there is no intuitive reason a new player should he aware that a dwarf can't both mine and occasionally chop trees too. Major bug sadness.
What, that is news to me. I've been swapping both and had dwarves assigned to both with no issue. They simply have the extra task of swapping between mining and wood cutting.
@@BlindiRL i know that woodcutting/mining/hunting have bugs with military uniform but i havent heard or seen anything on this kind of bug.
@@BlindiRL Idk man I admit I'm a new player to the steam release, but it happened to me like three times until I finally searched forum discussion threads and encountered people warning about assigning labor duties that require different tools (pick, axe, other battle weapons). I checked everything like dwarf mood, that they're not busy, burrows, z-level accessibility, etc and nothing got them to mine or chop again. Because I wasn't saving frequently enough and I would notice the problem too late, I just decided to start a new fort when it happened. I have a few mods but none have anything to do with labor and they're all aesthetic. After I started carefully ensuring that no dwarf is assigned mining and chopping in a new fort, I haven't encountered the issue again.
@@BlindiRL I don't know if it's just me, but I had some dwarves refuse to put down their axes. I don't know what caused it, but once I took him off woodcutting he went to actual mining.
Great vid. One question though: Is it REALLY beneficial (besides jobs related to metal) to create new jobs for certain dwarves besides a good'ol "IWANTTO" reason? Or "should" i just let them run around doing whatever and let game systems take care of everything? Not asking for a definitive answare - do always/never, just something that you know from your experiance.
I feel like after giving specialisations to my dwarves everything went to shi...i mean slowed down drastically. The obvious thing that cross my mind is that i fcuked up something - which is a thought that i've decided to promptly ignore.
Yea the also find you that assigning workers to jobs will not make the prioritize the job more then they already do (at least i dont think so) all that it dose is to give a particular dwarf more responsibility to do. Good is you want to make dwarfs be legendary at something but asside from metals things dont increase in value by much
Skilled dwarves work faster and create higher value items if possible, if you're trying to make the best possible military gear or get the most value out of your gem-encrusted furniture then you absolutely want custom details. Alternatively you can make a dedicated workshop for high-level tasks, assign one dwarf to it, then queue work orders from said workshop to keep your important jobs separate from the rest. And you have guildhalls to get lower skilled dwarves trained up as an alternative to burning through materials making junk.
Sometimes getting it done Now is important, which is why like I don't see any reason to select people to do hauling. But I don't want an unskilled rando to do the planting just because my good planter is momentarily distracted? But I won't select JUST the amazing planter, I will also pick a backup person to start learning it. Otherwise, I've found, you end up with every dwarf having a bunch of dabbling/novice level skills and nobody's noticeably faster. But you can't just wait on the best possible person to do every possible job all the time or nothing gets done and you've got nobody ready when that one dwarf can't handle the workload. I think it mostly only works if there are relatively few freely-available tasks, though? So it takes some setup, and at first things take slightly longer to get done. At first, everybody has to wear a few different hats, but over time I peel off high-demand things to be their own worker pool. It's worked pretty okay, though I've been experimenting so I haven't gotten anything past about 100 dwarves going at a time yet.
@@Nassifeh I am always impressed by my carpenter working faster with 1 carpenters shop then 6 other rando dwarfs.
Edit: i was talking about him making beds and and The others making dors.
4:10 is a little confusing. So if you select one dwarf to only do a specific labor, it assumes you will want to specify every individual dwarf that does that labor from there on out? Otherwise only one person will end up doing it?
You tell the dwarf to only do the tasks that you specified, but inversely those tasks will only be done by the dwarves that you specified. It simply blocks the 'all dwarves do this task' option.
You can really basically just select the top few, since they're the ones who'd generally be picked by the system in any case, I think? Or if it's a workshop task you can just assign them their own workshop for it. It'd be nice if there was an equivalent assignment option for things that don't have workshops. I mostly find I want to assign lists specifically anyway, because usually I'd rather concentrate the skill usage on a few people even if it slightly slows tasks down.
Do you know how I can get my dwarves to stop using metal to make walls?
Can you do a tutorial about work orders and managers? I had a manager with the organizer skill and within about 1 year, his organizing skill became rusty. I had work orders called in every now and then, but that rust never disappeared. How am I supposed to train said skill?
You either forgot to make an office or had the manager do other jobs, missing out on time doing organising in his office.
Is there a way to copy/paste tasks from one fort to another? I hate setting up tasks every single new fort.
no easy way ATM. The task list is likely stored in one of the files associated with a save but I have not tried to find it yet.
nope pretty annoying. just waiting on mods really
This video helped me a ton.
I love your vids Blind! Also the interview with Putnam was very cool.
Could you do a tutorial on how to set up an arena? I have soooo many goblins caught, Im unsure how to deal with them. If I have the cage moved, the little buggers escape!
Also is there an easy way to get magma from the magma sea to the surface without getting carpal tunnel? Lol. Cheers mate.
Thanks!
I can't seem to figure out specifically what the automate kitchen and automate tannery options actually do?
I believe auto kitchen will queue fat to tallow jobs automatically and auto tanner will queue hide to leather jobs automatically
I don't know what automate kitchen does, but automate tannery makes your dwarves automatically queue up a tan hides task after you have an animal butchered.
Added a Question! ^.^ Thank you for all these tutorials theyve been so very helpful
Very helpful!
difference between economic and non-economic jobs?
I think in the "Stone use" page it would be really helpful if you clarified what is and is not an "economic job"
I think:
• Calcite
░ • Chalk
` • Dolomite
▓ • Limestone
▓ • Marble
can be used as Flux stones to make Steel. But by default they can also be used as building stones. If you want them not to be used as building material, click that button.
I started playing 2 weeks ago and i fell like every new fortress i need to do 50 tab managements before i even unpause the game, every day i find that the game is missing more and more QoL and this is making me play less and less 😔
Anyone know if they have plans on improving mods? Everything is almost cosmetics only
I feel you. You wish do micromanage the dwarven jobs. Unfortunately as i find out you gimp yourself if you do that more then anything else. So the way that the system works is that your dwarf have a list of tasks to do he will prioritize the tasks that he is most good at automatically( the system decides who to send do a job based on who is the best available person to do the job) . if you make lets say a carpenter labor and assign a dwarf to that labor you essentially just give this responsibility to that dwarf and only that dwarf on top of his other tasks. ( i wish we would have a prioritization level on top of the current system.
3rd party has always done the QoL addons. We can assume that DFHack is coming to steam eventually and the spreadsheet layout of Dwarf Therapist is also amazing, again someday. Check out Lazy Noob pack as well. I use all of those to play the classic version including sprite packs to replace the ASCII display.
i think df hack for steam vs is supposed to be coming out soon.
other than that we wait on The big man and putnam to run updates.
@@lethrahn dfhack alpha already works with steam version, you just need to install it manually (basically just unpack it to game folder, no other actions needed)
DFHack is always useful, even if for just a few really neat features. Dwarf Therapist is good for job minmaximg, but it's not necessary anymore. The Premium version does a much better job at assigning jobs. I only have 2-5 custom jobs at most and specialize miners, planters/harvesters and metalworking industry, doctors... And that's usually it. Also, restricting hauling to just a few dwarves, rest is handled by children. Giving up trying to minmax every job is a tip I'd give everyone, makes the game far more enjoyable. And you won't lose out on much at all.
Ty blind, without your help i couldnt get into this amazing game, could the next tutorial be on making plaster powder?
TBH, just request/buy it from caravans. There are a lot of things you need only a little bit of that's easier to buy than set up and industry for (ie. clear and crystal glass for moods)
If you make cheese you might want to turn off cooking with the milk
At what age do children start doing chores?
Everyone please raise your hands: who is also watching Blind's videos with playback speed 0.75 ? 😅
its way better than other DF youtube tutorials. have to listen to them at 2x speed just so i dont die of old age while they eplain stone densities from the wiki. T_T
How do we deal with tantrums of the children?
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