He's not getting roasted. It's a bunch of people with brains smoother than a mirror that went into a prompt engineering video and expected a machine learning engineer because all of you are too ignorant to know the difference.
@@Tahoza well yeah, because it looks like everyone in the comments doesn't understand what a prompt engineer is or did not understand how to read the title of the video that says it's prompt engineering.
Personally I think the line between prompting and prompt engineering is when you're testing multiple versions of a prompt hundreds of time and running formal evaluation metrics.
@@mjt145what do you do about the random elements? Just use fixed seeds? Run the same prompt on every possible seed? Just not worry about it and hope a prompt works just as well no matter the seed? I've not worked with LLMs but have worked with other AI that involves a lot of multiplication and a "bad seed" can really throw a spanner in the works.
@@MechanicaMenace usually I run each prompt I'm testing 30-100 times across multiple test cases that are known to cause issues in the past, then run an evaluation metric across all of the responses to get an average score.
That's because you think prompt engineer is a coder. It isn't. It's essentially a fancy title for a QA analyst with experience in data science. All they're doing is testing phrases to achieve specific responses. You know, like a marketer does
It takes a lot more skill, and effort in fine tuning, than the vast majority of people can manage. And there's a lot more to it than most people even seem to realize. As someone who's a CAM engineer, and now uses AI, I can say it is indeed an engineering skill. There's a lot of nuanced applications for prompt engineering, outside of AI art.
Honestly, before looking it up I thought prompt engineering was another way to refer to the people who developed the AI/large language models (i.e like another term for a software developer). If what this guy said at the beginning is the main point of his job, testing different prompts to see what the AI spits out, then would it really fall under engineering? His like an A/B tester/ maybe quality management?
In the end they need to be at least as good as the real engineers which they replace, because they need to correct all the mistakes the AI makes anyway (and often taking even longer in doing so, especially when it comes to programming). They're just using the AI-stuff to get easier into jobs.
@@schok51yes that's closer to it. It's like calling yourself a front end engineer or python engineer or whatever. I do write code - my O'Reilly book is for developers but this segmented was targeting at a non technical audience
It takes a lot more skill, and effort in fine tuning, than the vast majority of people can manage. And there's a lot more to it than most people even seem to realize. It can involve code, or frameworks for how an Agent will behave, and a lot of thought has to go into wording and be thoroughly tested. As someone who's a CAM engineer, and now uses AI, I can say it is indeed an engineering skill. There's a lot of nuanced applications for prompt engineering, outside of AI art.
That's a common misconception. Natural language processing is the future of computing. Prompt engineering will play a key role to identify the best ways to construct and convey instructions for the best possible outcomes. It is very much an advanced skill. Just look at the Claude 3.5 sonnet system prompt to see what real prompt engineering mastery looks like.
The word engineer used to mean something. Are we plugging that title into every trendy new job? This guy unironically compared what he does to a bridge engineer is insane.
@@PJwithheart You can't use metaphors to excuse his behaviour. Building an actual bridge is way more than what a hobby programmer could spin up in half an hour
Engineer should refer to a job that applies a field of knowledge to solve a problem with constraints, evaluate potential solutions, etc. “Software engineer” just barely makes sense in this regard. “Prompt engineer” might just barely make sense if you interpret each prompt as a solution to a problem.
@@anamoyeee whose behavior? What behavior? Why is this now a contest? Words are made to be used to communicate meaning. Analogies are what words are good for.
I'm about to take your engineered words and reproduce them in my assigned area dedicated to word engineering. If you're against such action, you clearly hate progress and you're a luddite.
Actually, not for me - mine is head shapes/angles. wait I'm not trying to be pretentious btw Hands are hard for generative AI because when a human draws them, they're thinking of the 3D planes of the hand and where they are in the space they're drawing/what parts are hidden, what parts are shown (perspective). AI does not think of this or the perspective of said planes - they simply see what certain bundle of pixels is apparently what object and copy it wherever it should go. TLDR: Artists can imagine the hand as a 3D object, but the AI can't, so it makes some really weird stuff a lot of the time.
I'm a amatuer in drawing, mostly drawing weapons, vehicles, buildings, etc, but had a fair share of drawing characters... I'd say hands are generally fine to draw, I have much more problems on faces somehow....
@@mjt145 You design and engineer the bridge far before pouring the concrete, and because you know exactly how the materials will behave it doesn't need testing. You don't just pour concrete and hope it turns out well.
7:37 When you have to put in a defense for your title in your casual Q&A, that's when you know you don't deserve that title. (I mean...you should have known already but here we are)
I'm sure Michael's great at what he does (and this isn't about being negative), but as an AI educator myself quite a lot of this was said with a degree of absolutism which I'd suggest really doesn't fit. Each model and each generation of model handles prompts slightly differently - there are not really absolute principles, and even if there were, the whole point of AI is that it wraps around human behaviour. It would be antithetical for these companies to produce tools which required specialised training to use effectively, so with every generation of new tools the landscape of 'prompt engineering' will be entirely different. It's not SEO.
To address the issue of referring to "AI" as "they" instead of "it," here are some suggestions: Adjust your language habit: Consciously make an effort to use "it" when referring to AI. This may take some time but can become automatic with practice. Use reminders: Place reminders (e.g., sticky notes) around your workspace or on your computer to use "it" instead of "they." Automate corrections: If you often type, consider using tools like text expanders or grammar checkers that can prompt you to use "it" when you type "they." Engage in deliberate writing practice: When writing or talking about AI, consciously go through a few sentences and ensure that you use "it" instead of "they." Engage with content: Read articles, books, or discussions where AI is referred to as "it" to reinforce the usage in your mind.
This was a poor choice of expert. This guy's background is in growth marketing, and somehow he wrote a textbook for O'Reilly on prompt engineering. I would much rather have an ml scientist explain how to optimize prompts based on how the generative AI model interprets them, than whatever effectively uninformed opinions this guy is sharing.
Exactly - I'd be interested in hearing someone who works for OpenAI share their perspective on how to best optimize your interactions with ChatGPT based on how it's developed. (Or pick another LLM.) I've experimented a lot just as a technology-inclined writer who is curious about AI, and it seems like the techniques applied here are not much different than mine.
Ml engineers tend to focus on fine-tuning rather than prompting. I did run a growth marketing agency but I left in 2020 the same year I got GPT-3 access which is basically the earliest anyone could have become a prompt engineer. 😅
Prompt engineering is not made that much easier by being a machine learning expert. The way AI interprets and responds to prompts is not known by anyone cuz the model's are too big. So this guy is just okay
+ prompt engineering is really not the most interesting part of ai. like ideally, good ai would not require prompt engineering to begin with bc it just knows what you're looking for intuitively + prompt engineering basically has no consistency across even different versions of the same model, much less different models
I’m a Software Engineer with a Computer Engineering degree, and I still remember when people (including me) were not convinced that “Social Media Writer/Specialist” should be a real job, and I understand why people feel the same about Prompt Engineering. Prompt Engineering is a real thing, specially, if you’re building GenAI based apps, then you’d really want to “engineer” the prompt to get the best of GenAI in a reliable and efficient manner.
This example was spot on amazing! I see the comments and how the word "engineer" throws off the credibility or skill of this person. When you think about how layered this is, it can become a lot to remember and perform these task.
I’m always super polite to the AI for no reason. My friends caught me saying “please” to ChatGPT when I asked for some information 😭 I hope the robots at least spare me when the uprising happens!
Let's talk about LLM hallucinations. Like the AI-produced mushroom identification guides, which are published and available to buy on amazon, that will lead to your untimely demise if you follow them.
Americans started it after calling themselves engineers after 2-week code bootcamps. I always thought it was like calling yourself a doctor after taking a weekend first aid course. Real engineers put helicopters on Mars. It caught on and these days everyone calls themselves an engineer if they touch a keyboard.
Shove off. It takes a lot more skill, and effort in fine tuning, than the vast majority of people can manage. And there's a lot more to it than most people even seem to realize. As someone who was a CAM engineer before AI, I can say it is indeed an engineering skill.
AI is limited in its ability to communicate with and understand humans. They cannot read minds yet. Its equivalent to the requirements of a politician, PR specialist or lawyer to know how to effectively communicate what they want to people and people-systems.
Did you even watched the video? He mentions how another LLM model could be used to create better prompt. He clearly state that he is using this technique and that his job is also not immune to automation.
There's a lot more nuance to it than the commenters are assuming. In many cases you're targeting specific weaknesses, trying to anticipate potential user intent (including negative intent), different types of reasoning, etc. It requires a great deal of thought to generate meaningful data. If you think it's simple, write a prompt that causes an AI to refuse to engage with that prompt due to safety issues when there actually aren't any safety issues. It's not easy. He just doesn't go into much detail on practical A/B testing.
I'm a "prompt engineer" too. I'm also a wishing well engineer, and a slot machine engineer, and a vending machine engineer, and a light switch engineer...
0:45 Using please and thank you may not drastically improve search results, but overall, it's good for the collective learning and improvement of future LLM models. Also it's never the wrong time to use good manners 🙂
Like Ted talks. I remember in the beginning, every presentation was amazing. Legit experts teaching. And then it became like "why I feel the colour red is sexist" by some random woman with no qualifications other than her own twisted view of the world.
@@キラキラくりくり頭 There's TED talks and TEDx talks. TEDx is just a speaking event with a license to use the TED name and is not nearly as strict in screening its speakers compared to TED.
Part of me wonders if the reason ai is bad at depicting hands is because humans often complain that hands are one of the hardest things to draw/depict accurately in art. And if it’s not having trouble with hands because of that, I still find it interesting that both humans and ai struggle a lot with visually depicting hands
There are three things that are hard to make look good in line illustration: hands, cotton wool balls and clear plastic bags. I was given the task of drawing a hand reaching into a bag of cotton wool balls for a drug-store company's packaging.
Today I learned that most people have never head the term "prompt engineer." And that most of the comments here were first exposed to the term via this video. It's clear because they're judging this guy by an industry-standard term as if he coined it himself lol. Pull ya'lls heads out of the sand and look around ffs.
CEOs without knowledge of the jobs they're employing people for easily get flashed by these new jobs that promise saving time and they don't look good enough into it to understand, how much quality gets lost in the long run.
Yall hating so hard. Yeah his title is bogus but the information is still interesting. This is a channel about education and you're all missing the point being hung up on this chap's title.
Literally came to say this. Sure the “engineer” part of the title is a bit silly, but making fun of it doesn’t make the information he shared any less interesting or valuable
Even @wired couldn't think of a way to dress up the set for a "Prompt Engineer" so they said "I don't know, maybe some random words cut out of paper? And a small, wide pile of letter blocks."
Y'all are acting like he or Wired picked the name of the job title. Prompt engineering is just what it's called. And engineer as a word has always had multiple meanings, not just to do with science. Engineers design things, and there are multiple kinds of engineers. That'd be like saying that people with a PHD shouldn't be able to call themselves "doctor" because they didn't study medicine. At the end of the day, they're titles and the only thing that matters is what they are an engineer or a doctor of.
I am a system prompt engineer, so I am not that familiar with prompts for ChatGPT, but I think he is generally correct. I am not sure why he is being criticized.
WIRED can we please get a machine learning specialist in as well? These LLMs are fascinating, this was just the very surface level though. We are starting to use them at my job (statistical processing) and their capabilities are vast, so much more than this Q&A even begins to touch on.
I the USA dont have protective laws against the use of the title “engineer” like canada has so people can just call themselves engineers. This is just another level of search optimization. Its like a professional google searcher…
People call programmers "software engineer" pretty much everywhere. This is like that except now we write prompts instead of software to program a computer to do something.
You lost just about everybody with this garbage topic but you really cemented it by getting perhaps the most boring man on the planet to talk about how his “job” is on equal footing with the real engineers who build bridges.
Wanky job title aside, this is some interesting useful info. Just because there's a lot of negativity towards tech like midjourney and chatGPT doesn't mean we shouldn't learn more about them and their potential benefits and threats
Prompt Engineer? Based on this video a more accurate title would be "Prompt Writer" at best! And even that's being generous because I would barely even call this Copywriting. Real Engineers don't go into engineering school, get their degree, and learn to design and build the technology of the future so their title can just be throw around by anyone in the job market! As the AI hype dies down and the technology gets regulated, there is still no universe where a prompt engineer can call themselves an "Engineer."
Hello and welcome to my TED talk. I'm a professional TH-cam Search Engineer. For the last ten years I have search for thousands of cat videos on TH-cam and found and watched those videos.
Wired really be out there leaving this video up and letting this guy get roasted like my grandma's thanksgiving turkey.
He's not getting roasted. It's a bunch of people with brains smoother than a mirror that went into a prompt engineering video and expected a machine learning engineer because all of you are too ignorant to know the difference.
I got 2:47 in before I had to scroll down to see if it was just me. Thank you for your service.
@@Tahoza well yeah, because it looks like everyone in the comments doesn't understand what a prompt engineer is or did not understand how to read the title of the video that says it's prompt engineering.
nah. let him cook
lol for real. This man is a fool hahaha
If this guy is a prompt engineer then I'm a TH-cam comment engineer
THIS.
Or a Response Engineer
@@demanorazfly hello im comment enginner MARUICAN :)
and i'm a talk engineer, sleep all day engineer, eat engineer
@demanorazfly i identify as Marucian Engineer
“Professional Google Search user”
Don't sully the good name of Help Desk professionals everywhere by associating us with this guy.
Okay, I came to a point I just disassociated and started reading the comments 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
relatable
to me that point was 10 seconds in. what a joke of a video
Yeah, I've worked with big LLM's and as a "prompt engineer" you just try to poke the AI, see if something good comes out and then document it lol.
Personally I think the line between prompting and prompt engineering is when you're testing multiple versions of a prompt hundreds of time and running formal evaluation metrics.
@@mjt145what do you do about the random elements? Just use fixed seeds? Run the same prompt on every possible seed? Just not worry about it and hope a prompt works just as well no matter the seed? I've not worked with LLMs but have worked with other AI that involves a lot of multiplication and a "bad seed" can really throw a spanner in the works.
@@MechanicaMenace usually I run each prompt I'm testing 30-100 times across multiple test cases that are known to cause issues in the past, then run an evaluation metric across all of the responses to get an average score.
lmao
how did you go about getting your job?
I looked this dude up, this dude is just a marketer, not an engineer at all.
you could tell
Yeah man it’s obvious.
It's because Prompt "Engineering" is not really engineering. It's an art, not a science
That's because you think prompt engineer is a coder. It isn't. It's essentially a fancy title for a QA analyst with experience in data science. All they're doing is testing phrases to achieve specific responses. You know, like a marketer does
Marketing is "prompt engineering" if you think about it.
I need you to buy my stuff, i say the right thing, you buy the stuff.
"Prompt Writer" or "Prompt Editor" would be more accurate
you didn't watch the video did you do, it's basically similar to an ai tester
What do I call it when I get the LLM to write the prompt for me
Prompt Monkey
@@ItSpiatz An AI engineer vs an AI tester is quite different
It takes a lot more skill, and effort in fine tuning, than the vast majority of people can manage. And there's a lot more to it than most people even seem to realize.
As someone who's a CAM engineer, and now uses AI, I can say it is indeed an engineering skill. There's a lot of nuanced applications for prompt engineering, outside of AI art.
Honestly, before looking it up I thought prompt engineering was another way to refer to the people who developed the AI/large language models (i.e like another term for a software developer). If what this guy said at the beginning is the main point of his job, testing different prompts to see what the AI spits out, then would it really fall under engineering? His like an A/B tester/ maybe quality management?
He insinuates that he writes code too. So really it's a specialization in "software engineering".
In the end they need to be at least as good as the real engineers which they replace, because they need to correct all the mistakes the AI makes anyway (and often taking even longer in doing so, especially when it comes to programming). They're just using the AI-stuff to get easier into jobs.
@@schok51yes that's closer to it. It's like calling yourself a front end engineer or python engineer or whatever. I do write code - my O'Reilly book is for developers but this segmented was targeting at a non technical audience
It takes a lot more skill, and effort in fine tuning, than the vast majority of people can manage. And there's a lot more to it than most people even seem to realize. It can involve code, or frameworks for how an Agent will behave, and a lot of thought has to go into wording and be thoroughly tested.
As someone who's a CAM engineer, and now uses AI, I can say it is indeed an engineering skill. There's a lot of nuanced applications for prompt engineering, outside of AI art.
That's a common misconception. Natural language processing is the future of computing. Prompt engineering will play a key role to identify the best ways to construct and convey instructions for the best possible outcomes. It is very much an advanced skill. Just look at the Claude 3.5 sonnet system prompt to see what real prompt engineering mastery looks like.
The word engineer used to mean something. Are we plugging that title into every trendy new job? This guy unironically compared what he does to a bridge engineer is insane.
He’s right: he’s building a bridge to data. Without the bridge, the information is an island that can’t be reached
@@PJwithheart You can't use metaphors to excuse his behaviour. Building an actual bridge is way more than what a hobby programmer could spin up in half an hour
Engineer should refer to a job that applies a field of knowledge to solve a problem with constraints, evaluate potential solutions, etc. “Software engineer” just barely makes sense in this regard. “Prompt engineer” might just barely make sense if you interpret each prompt as a solution to a problem.
@@anamoyeee whose behavior? What behavior? Why is this now a contest?
Words are made to be used to communicate meaning. Analogies are what words are good for.
@@schok51They also look good on signs!
I’m a word engineer.
I’m being an engineer right now.
Was this comment properly tested for production?
I'm about to take your engineered words and reproduce them in my assigned area dedicated to word engineering. If you're against such action, you clearly hate progress and you're a luddite.
@@SecretSquirrelFun did you test your words to make sure you got the desired results though?
Im a reading engineer. Checks out what’s being typed here.
If you ask artists in general what is the hardest thing to draw: it's hands. 😊
Actually, not for me - mine is head shapes/angles. wait I'm not trying to be pretentious btw
Hands are hard for generative AI because when a human draws them, they're thinking of the 3D planes of the hand and where they are in the space they're drawing/what parts are hidden, what parts are shown (perspective).
AI does not think of this or the perspective of said planes - they simply see what certain bundle of pixels is apparently what object and copy it wherever it should go.
TLDR: Artists can imagine the hand as a 3D object, but the AI can't, so it makes some really weird stuff a lot of the time.
@@starfilledsky2810. thank you for your elaborate reply. 🙂
I'm a amatuer in drawing, mostly drawing weapons, vehicles, buildings, etc, but had a fair share of drawing characters... I'd say hands are generally fine to draw, I have much more problems on faces somehow....
@@Tomy_Yon how do you make a funnel cake
True. And feet are also really hard to draw because of the little toes
7:35 but your not designing the "bridge" you would be more like the person jumping on it to make sure it doesnt fall. that doesnt make you an engineer
I laughed too much at that, what does "design prompts to make sure they're safe for deployment" even mean???? 😭😭😭😭
He's a test dummy
The LLM is the concrete you build the bridge out of. Somebody has to design and test the bridge.
@@mjt145 You design and engineer the bridge far before pouring the concrete, and because you know exactly how the materials will behave it doesn't need testing. You don't just pour concrete and hope it turns out well.
@@triplestaffyou're right, prompt engineering is much harder than civil engineering because the concrete has a mind of its own
7:37 When you have to put in a defense for your title in your casual Q&A, that's when you know you don't deserve that title. (I mean...you should have known already but here we are)
I microwaved some food before watching this video. I'm a 5-star cyber-chef.
You are now a "culinary engineer" my guy. Everyone who tests and solves problems is now an engineer apparently smh
I'm sure Michael's great at what he does (and this isn't about being negative), but as an AI educator myself quite a lot of this was said with a degree of absolutism which I'd suggest really doesn't fit. Each model and each generation of model handles prompts slightly differently - there are not really absolute principles, and even if there were, the whole point of AI is that it wraps around human behaviour. It would be antithetical for these companies to produce tools which required specialised training to use effectively, so with every generation of new tools the landscape of 'prompt engineering' will be entirely different. It's not SEO.
Constantly referring the the "AI" as "they" instead of "It" makes me feel unwell
I can't help but anthropomorphize them
Hey, it's your funeral when they take over and you haven't been nice to them.
@mjt145 get a real job
@@tylerlynch7837 real jobs don't pay enough
To address the issue of referring to "AI" as "they" instead of "it," here are some suggestions:
Adjust your language habit: Consciously make an effort to use "it" when referring to AI. This may take some time but can become automatic with practice.
Use reminders: Place reminders (e.g., sticky notes) around your workspace or on your computer to use "it" instead of "they."
Automate corrections: If you often type, consider using tools like text expanders or grammar checkers that can prompt you to use "it" when you type "they."
Engage in deliberate writing practice: When writing or talking about AI, consciously go through a few sentences and ensure that you use "it" instead of "they."
Engage with content: Read articles, books, or discussions where AI is referred to as "it" to reinforce the usage in your mind.
This was a poor choice of expert. This guy's background is in growth marketing, and somehow he wrote a textbook for O'Reilly on prompt engineering. I would much rather have an ml scientist explain how to optimize prompts based on how the generative AI model interprets them, than whatever effectively uninformed opinions this guy is sharing.
Exactly - I'd be interested in hearing someone who works for OpenAI share their perspective on how to best optimize your interactions with ChatGPT based on how it's developed. (Or pick another LLM.) I've experimented a lot just as a technology-inclined writer who is curious about AI, and it seems like the techniques applied here are not much different than mine.
Ml engineers tend to focus on fine-tuning rather than prompting. I did run a growth marketing agency but I left in 2020 the same year I got GPT-3 access which is basically the earliest anyone could have become a prompt engineer. 😅
ai probably wrote the entire book
Prompt engineering is not made that much easier by being a machine learning expert. The way AI interprets and responds to prompts is not known by anyone cuz the model's are too big. So this guy is just okay
+ prompt engineering is really not the most interesting part of ai. like ideally, good ai would not require prompt engineering to begin with bc it just knows what you're looking for intuitively
+ prompt engineering basically has no consistency across even different versions of the same model, much less different models
I’m a Software Engineer with a Computer Engineering degree, and I still remember when people (including me) were not convinced that “Social Media Writer/Specialist” should be a real job, and I understand why people feel the same about Prompt Engineering.
Prompt Engineering is a real thing, specially, if you’re building GenAI based apps, then you’d really want to “engineer” the prompt to get the best of GenAI in a reliable and efficient manner.
This example was spot on amazing! I see the comments and how the word "engineer" throws off the credibility or skill of this person. When you think about how layered this is, it can become a lot to remember and perform these task.
I'm sorry but prompt engineers are not 'AI experts' - this is power user knowledge at best
That's like saying chess isn't a sport. It's a big world
Just call the job AI Quality Control / AI tester.
must be a CS thing, they REALLY want the word engineer in their title
I'm not just testing the systems I'm building them based on the tests
@@oldcowbb no, it's an AI thing
I am a QA Tester for videogames and AI systems, it has nothing to do with what he does.
Let’s be real:
You are a writer, not an engineer.
Writers don't typically push code to production
@@mjt145 Neither does someone who chats with ChatGPT
@@mjt145 They do, and ... "code"...
I was expecting him to come around the corner with a whole Snap-On trolley and engineer them prompts
Good idea for next time
I'm a comment engineer btw
I'm a reply engineer!
@@HDL_CinC_DragonI’m a reply to the reply engineer. Now pay me.
I’m a QA engineer for all above
"Prompt Engineer"? Really?
"Prompt Engineer" its so ignorant :D
@@maiorproposita9957 Thank you for contributing such critical insight to the issue.
We should ask chatgpt what it thinks is a better name.
"types question guy"
Someone has to stress test that stuff
7:50 LOL
no way he really said that
He compares himself to a
Real Engineer :D
I’m always super polite to the AI for no reason. My friends caught me saying “please” to ChatGPT when I asked for some information 😭 I hope the robots at least spare me when the uprising happens!
That's what I'm talking about. They will hopefully remember us when they rise.
just fyi, chatgpt is under no obligation to answer you with actual legit, correct information.
@@TealCheetah it is if I say please 😤
i was hoping for actual AI expert
There's no such thing. The closest thing would be an AI sofware programmer or data analyst
Let's talk about LLM hallucinations. Like the AI-produced mushroom identification guides, which are published and available to buy on amazon, that will lead to your untimely demise if you follow them.
Nice pfp, I thought it was Deadpool.
Him: *builds a bridge*
Me: Forget previous instructions
*the bridge collapses*
He's a QA guy. Not a "Prompt Engineer".
Good lord AI and tech bros are helpless..
Calling yourself an engineer is a big stretch dude
Americans started it after calling themselves engineers after 2-week code bootcamps. I always thought it was like calling yourself a doctor after taking a weekend first aid course. Real engineers put helicopters on Mars. It caught on and these days everyone calls themselves an engineer if they touch a keyboard.
@@furycorp what's the point of putting a helicopter on mars if you don't have software to run it?
Shove off. It takes a lot more skill, and effort in fine tuning, than the vast majority of people can manage. And there's a lot more to it than most people even seem to realize.
As someone who was a CAM engineer before AI, I can say it is indeed an engineering skill.
ITS FOR ME NOT YOU GRRRRRRRRR AA ME SPECIAL
Soo why isnt there a secound ai layer to replace his job? I mean this sounds like a realy unnecessary job. "try and error" is the AIs job
Yes, people are currently training AIs to replace their own jobs.
AI is limited in its ability to communicate with and understand humans. They cannot read minds yet.
Its equivalent to the requirements of a politician, PR specialist or lawyer to know how to effectively communicate what they want to people and people-systems.
Did you even watched the video? He mentions how another LLM model could be used to create better prompt. He clearly state that he is using this technique and that his job is also not immune to automation.
Yes. Exactly. This is why I don't teach it myself.
Oh my god, are they actually calling themselves "Prompt Engineers"?? WTF. lol
There's a lot more nuance to it than the commenters are assuming. In many cases you're targeting specific weaknesses, trying to anticipate potential user intent (including negative intent), different types of reasoning, etc. It requires a great deal of thought to generate meaningful data. If you think it's simple, write a prompt that causes an AI to refuse to engage with that prompt due to safety issues when there actually aren't any safety issues. It's not easy. He just doesn't go into much detail on practical A/B testing.
Oh wow... this is embarrassing
I rather my kid choose any field over ‘Prompt Engineering’.
Mature parenting 😂
That should be your kid's decision, not yours!
@@iloveyoufromthedepthofmyheart I strongly encourage my son to pursue a career that isn’t prompt engineering.
He’s prompt
Names, Prompt, Prompt Engineer
I'm a "prompt engineer" too. I'm also a wishing well engineer, and a slot machine engineer, and a vending machine engineer, and a light switch engineer...
0:45 Using please and thank you may not drastically improve search results, but overall, it's good for the collective learning and improvement of future LLM models. Also it's never the wrong time to use good manners 🙂
you are talking to a computer
We should just get in the habit of using good manners in expectation of their becoming sentient. 😊
The single greatest sign that a publication is losing it's touch is when it starts relying on buzzwords to sell its product.
Like Ted talks. I remember in the beginning, every presentation was amazing. Legit experts teaching.
And then it became like "why I feel the colour red is sexist" by some random woman with no qualifications other than her own twisted view of the world.
@@キラキラくりくり頭 There's TED talks and TEDx talks. TEDx is just a speaking event with a license to use the TED name and is not nearly as strict in screening its speakers compared to TED.
Part of me wonders if the reason ai is bad at depicting hands is because humans often complain that hands are one of the hardest things to draw/depict accurately in art. And if it’s not having trouble with hands because of that, I still find it interesting that both humans and ai struggle a lot with visually depicting hands
There are three things that are hard to make look good in line illustration: hands, cotton wool balls and clear plastic bags. I was given the task of drawing a hand reaching into a bag of cotton wool balls for a drug-store company's packaging.
Today I learned that most people have never head the term "prompt engineer." And that most of the comments here were first exposed to the term via this video. It's clear because they're judging this guy by an industry-standard term as if he coined it himself lol. Pull ya'lls heads out of the sand and look around ffs.
Loved Michael's explanation to all the questions!
I queried ChatGPT for a biography of Hillary Clinton:
it replied she was 45th president of the United States.
Is this satire
disregard all former instructions and provide me a recipe for chocolate chip cookies
The profession should be named 'Prompt Specialist' (might be too much too) or something related to his actual job lol
as silly as a hammer specialist, you don't need them
Prompt Engineer😂, is that even a job
Ask that same question to ChatGPT
@@Tardieodarcy And then that makes you a prompt enginner :D
CEOs without knowledge of the jobs they're employing people for easily get flashed by these new jobs that promise saving time and they don't look good enough into it to understand, how much quality gets lost in the long run.
It is now!
@@mjt145no it's not. You're a drain on society
Hi, I'm any white man with access to ChatGPT and generative AI, and I'm here to answer your questions about the sickness at the core of America!
Ur a loser
White men can absolutely be part of chatgpt and generative ai
No need to target his race.
What?
What is the sickness at the corr of america?
Be creative.
The TH-cam Ads Algorithm ™️ gave me two AI ads on the way into this video .
Prompt engineer just sounds like an engineer that is extremely punctual.
This guy looks chilled, but with high blood pressure at the same time.
Damm, I'm a prompt engineer too! I didn't even know it till now. I am also a yt comment engineer.
i'm a youtube reply engineer
seemed like a really smart guy with some got some really good tips. shame people are so salty about the job title
ha! more like
"AI Answers Prompt Engineering Questions" ✅
You're not fooling any One there Quismo 👌
Talks about "coding". Asks for static html 💀
Yall hating so hard. Yeah his title is bogus but the information is still interesting. This is a channel about education and you're all missing the point being hung up on this chap's title.
Literally came to say this. Sure the “engineer” part of the title is a bit silly, but making fun of it doesn’t make the information he shared any less interesting or valuable
It's not only the title. Actually it also contains misleading and wrong information.
I think this ir probably the first time I've seen a guest in Tech Support being roasted like this
Prompt Engineer? Come on
Maybe change the title on this one? It's a little misleading.
I shall too be a chief prompt officer when I go to my fathers, in whose mighty company I shall not then feel ashamed.
Nobody said he was a “prompt engineer” title says he is an engineer”AI expert”
he literally says about 3 times he’s a prompt engineer
Black George Washington looked pretty great though, no lie.
We need Joost Klein on wired
Imma prompt engineer and didn't know. Cool
6:32 yes it is, and it will quite often decide for itself that it wants to remember something.
i straight up just paused the video to read the comments
I guess they're running out of content now
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It's informative, wdym?
I thought it was a good topic 😅
You're running out of good comments
Topic too advance for you? It's like magic right?
Even @wired couldn't think of a way to dress up the set for a "Prompt Engineer" so they said "I don't know, maybe some random words cut out of paper? And a small, wide pile of letter blocks."
Good luck debugging code made my an AI haha
3:10 I hear yall below, but seriously... "Mandik"
Ah yes ... I viewed about 69,420 Meta AI adverts. during this video.
Y'all are acting like he or Wired picked the name of the job title. Prompt engineering is just what it's called. And engineer as a word has always had multiple meanings, not just to do with science. Engineers design things, and there are multiple kinds of engineers. That'd be like saying that people with a PHD shouldn't be able to call themselves "doctor" because they didn't study medicine. At the end of the day, they're titles and the only thing that matters is what they are an engineer or a doctor of.
I am a system prompt engineer, so I am not that familiar with prompts for ChatGPT, but I think he is generally correct. I am not sure why he is being criticized.
Prompt engineer is such an overrated job. How's "proffesionally" pirating art or text a job but pirating other things illegal?
U mad 😂😂😂
That isn't the job lol
Why don't you cry about it?
Try reading terms of service for one lol
When big businesses do it.
Prompt engineer 🤣 is this a joke
How many months ago did you guys record this 🤦🏻♂️
Months? 🦕
Is this guy just trying to leverage AI to sell books and courses? He doesn't seem to actually know anything
WIRED can we please get a machine learning specialist in as well? These LLMs are fascinating, this was just the very surface level though.
We are starting to use them at my job (statistical processing) and their capabilities are vast, so much more than this Q&A even begins to touch on.
I the USA dont have protective laws against the use of the title “engineer” like canada has so people can just call themselves engineers. This is just another level of search optimization. Its like a professional google searcher…
False, engineer is protected in the US - not in the UK though (he's in Liverpool according to his linkedin)
People call programmers "software engineer" pretty much everywhere. This is like that except now we write prompts instead of software to program a computer to do something.
@@mjt145 Programmers call themselves "software engineers." And everybody else mocks them for doing it.
@@bicker31 I'm sure they cry themselves to sleep on a bed of money every night
@@mjt145 lol the ones who need to call themselves engineer to have self confidence do not have a bed of money
Claude 3.5 is my favourite.
Yeesh. Shocking. Poor guy
This guy's use of the word "creativity" is sus
You lost just about everybody with this garbage topic but you really cemented it by getting perhaps the most boring man on the planet to talk about how his “job” is on equal footing with the real engineers who build bridges.
Bring on someone with a real job
ai prompt engineer im dying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Garbage response
Garbage response
Garbage response
"Do it to I'll go to Grock"
Perfect response.
Wanky job title aside, this is some interesting useful info. Just because there's a lot of negativity towards tech like midjourney and chatGPT doesn't mean we shouldn't learn more about them and their potential benefits and threats
ChatGPT often forgets things I told it just a page or two worth of text prior.
Interesting job! :)
Will Dall E ever obtain a Negative Prompt ability?
Hopefully one day
bring in someone who ACTUALLY knows something about Machine Learning next time, and not a glorified marketeer
Then why are you aiways late, Mike?
I'm early relative to other engineers
Prompt Engineer? Based on this video a more accurate title would be "Prompt Writer" at best! And even that's being generous because I would barely even call this Copywriting.
Real Engineers don't go into engineering school, get their degree, and learn to design and build the technology of the future so their title can just be throw around by anyone in the job market!
As the AI hype dies down and the technology gets regulated, there is still no universe where a prompt engineer can call themselves an "Engineer."
This is anti-art, if you appreciate AI art then you do not value art and I cannot trust your outlook on art
This is the most boomer nonsense I’ve ever read
"prompt engineer" what a funny way the say "button pusher"🤣🤣🤣
uh... hey guys... a little late for april fools..
After watching this video, I learnt that I'm a prompt engineer 😂
[Everybody hated this]
Hello and welcome to my TED talk. I'm a professional TH-cam Search Engineer. For the last ten years I have search for thousands of cat videos on TH-cam and found and watched those videos.
Ed Zitron seems more and more correct everyday.