I'm a woman and I say she should feel guilty and she needs to get to work. Yes, get some counseling, but can we quit portraying the husband as the bad guy when he was financially faithful and it's clearly the woman not working, running up debt, and damaging the family finances. You can't get all worked up like she is if youre busy working. Forget school, that costs money. If youre gonna cry about your man selling a beloved possession get up off the couch and go down the street and go work at a store. Or go sell all the crap you bought if you really regret it. There is regret and there is regret with change.
Hearing Simp shows like this is what's keeping men away ftom marriage. 2023 marriage rate fell to an all time low and it'll keep going lower as more men are fed up with women not being held accountable for their life choices yet at the same time is seeing decent men as the bad guy. If the roles were reversed, Baloney would call the man a man-child and tell him to get to work to pay off that debt, but since its a woman calling, she's brave, powerful and a bad ass. No accountability whatsoever. She only feels bad to make herself feel like a victim in this call so the hosts would go easy on her. If she really felt guilty (for reals) she would work extra to pay off the debt she racked up and refuse to let her husband sell his beloved jeep.
Quick version: Woman calls Dr Baloney admitting to what Dave Ramsey calls "financial infidelity" and the husband decides to sell something he loves to fix the problem. Baloney basically starts his response with "how much does he love this jeep, a ridiculous amount? an annoying amount". Now many of you will shrug this off, but this is an example of how the Ramsey network, specifically Dr Baloney minimizes and marginalizes men. He could have started by saying "you are lucky to be married to a man who loves you this much that he will sell his most beloved possessions to make things right". Of course he doesnt do that, its immediately right to portraying the man negatively. Now there will be a parade of fan girls that will stream in here for Dr Baloney, that's fine but go ahead go back and listen to the call, this happens within the first 2 min of the call. This is a subtle example of why men are going there own way, no matter what they do its never enough.
@@andrew8168 could be I don’t know Colemans not bad, but this guy baloney is beyond the pale. I mean, literally without too much detail at all he’s already asking if the guy loves this thing a ridiculous amount an absurd amount. Why else would you do that unless you’ve got a problem with men?
Image if the roles were reversed. People like John are just making it worse for women by not holding them accountable. Another free pass for the ladies
If the situations had been reversed and the man had been spending recklessly, he would be asking “do you feel safe?” And relentlessly attacking the man. Double standard much?
So if a man called and said I spent the money she has to pay he would not say “she knew what he sighed up for” he would say get to work and take care of ur family it’s not her responsibility to clean up ur mess
Jesus…the simping and treating women like children by never holding them accountable is harming everyone. It hurts the relationship with their men AND society as a whole. Either women are children who are not held accountable for actions or they are adults and have accountability. It can’t be both
they are emotional like kids and they vote that way with their votes and their money. the 19th amendment was the beginning of the downfall of the US, and women have never been more unhappy since then. they had an easy job of stay at home mom while the husband goes off to die in war or in the coal mines, the Timber forests etc, now women are expected to work as wage slaves for you guessed it, mostly men bosses lol. women are more miserable than ever and they are not having enough kids to meet the birth replacement rate, thats why we are importing millions of 3rd worlders that will have kids. google UN replacement migration.
She should feel guilty about him selling the jeep. It's her fault. She needs to make amends to him. She needs to go to work to pay off the debts She made.
The peace of mind that comes with paying down debt is far more valuable than the transient excitement you experience with material objects like a car. 😊
I wouldn't feel proud of her. Her husband is suffering because of financial choices that *she* made. Of course he's going to love her more than the Jeep. That's not the point though. What was she buying with the credit card and is she keeping all of her purchases as opposed to selling them? Women have to take some responsibility when they mess up, too. The inability to do so is massively destabilizing in the grand picture. It makes men resentful.
The guy would be getting blasted to smithereens if the roles were reversed, and especially if Dave was answering the call. The double standard is just asinine
This is a call that Jade needed to be on. She isnt gonna listen long to a woman crying when shes the cause of the problem and making her man do all the work.
@@flashthecorgi2053 I said she needed to be on the call. To the other person, most mental health experts are not going to let someone escape accountability
So she admitted to recklessly spending on purpose, and the husband has to sell his Jeep to pay it all off and fund her going back to school. 🤦 That poor man
So, what kind of car does she drive? What material sacrifices did she make? If the roles were reversed, he would be called a Bum and a deadbeat. He would be told to “step up” and work another job. He basically breastfed this Woman with false reassurance.
Delony once again, treating women like big babies and not holding them accountable for their mess. I would like to know what this woman is doing to help clean up the mess she caused besides “feeling bad” for her husband having to sell his jeep to clean it up for her.
The Ramsey audience does NOT understand psychology & it shows. As a Ramsey follower with an MA in psych, money & psych are both very tightly connected. You all just want to bash a woman(or man) for overspending, but you have no idea & John does. That’s why he reacts this way.
Your masters is in accountability avoidance. It’s not woman or man hating that people hate about him, it’s the speaking out both sides of his mouth hypocrisy and double standards
@@yodaddy4944 Again, you don’t understand. Grab a notepad & take some notes. Got it? Let’s start. It’s religious based podcast. The Christian religion holds men accountable. The man is the “leader” of the home. He guides the whole house with a Godly hand. They hold men accountable because that’s what God does. It says so in the Bible. You cannot force your wife to do anything, but when she’s out running around blowing money…that’s a marriage problem. Overspending is linked with attachment or avoidance as we’ve discussed in the threads before. It’s linked to childhood trauma as well. In a marriage though, the data shows when a woman, specifically is blowing money behind her husband’s back, it’s either a husband never home working all the time or a husband that is emotionally absent. Period. When men spend, it’s usually out of fear. So gambling is attached to the trauma of abandonment. Men grow up to gamble as avoidance. To tie those two ends, it’s a man’s job to be present for his wife & love her as Christ loved the church. If he’s not around, if he’s not involved, if she feels lonely (especially if she suffers from childhood trauma), a good majority of women will spend for fulfillment & to feel whole. Class is over.
The main part of going forth in a strong and peaceful way is to never do this impulsive, selfish and destructive behavior again. Go and sin no more. That’s how you repay your family.
Why does no one say to Men and fathers.. "The greatest thing you can give your child is a man who's fulfilled, who's at peace, and following their purpose", etc. I'm wondering cause John says phrases like this to women all of the time
I generally love this show and I think the advice is great most of the time. I have never seen them miss the mark this badly. This lady needs to get out of school and get back to work to support her kids and family. If the guy decides to sell the car to help, that’s one thing. But do it to just pay off his wife’s reckless spending while she’s in school? Nah
Why is John giving her a complete pass and not addressing the root cause of her spending problem? Such a disservice. Can’t believe I’m about to give my very first thumbs down to one of Dave’s videos.
Because she already acknowledged her wrong doing, do you want her to get beat down even more? How about some compassion and forgiveness is what she needs. People act like they never did anything that warranted forgiveness.
It’s pretty laughable at how they coddle, and encourages a woman’s mistakes, and not tell them the truth that they screwed up and need to get their priorities straight.
dont get married... you shouldnt be responsible for the debt of others except maybe a childs college debt that you ofc agree to paying for. the fact that a woman can go behind your back and rack up 100's of thousands of CC debt and you're on the hook for it even if you get divorced is one of the many reasons to not get married. if you think the entity in the sky says you need a priest to marry you then so be it, but you dont need a government contract saying you're married.
It's been a long time since I've had to be reminded not too scroll through the comments section too much, but this video jogged my memory. Jeez, people, calm down. I'd love to peak into your marriages.
She got the family into this situation and clearly feels shame. Wasn’t held accountable and Baloney just simped the entire time. Grasping at straws per usual John!
She made her husband have new hope in their marriage. That’s why he was willing to give up the Jeep for her . He admires the work she put in for herself , and now he sees a clear logical path to a better future.
Totally agree with the comments that a mom being there, happy and healthy is far better than any lessons, etc… at the time our children were growing up we did not have much so we did not do much extra’s. Our children grew up to be very good adults. Be active parents but that does not mean buying a lot of things is you don’t have the money.
Too much hate here. She’s genuinely repentant and working to pay the debt off. And no, Dr. D. was not out of line. His response was “your husband loves you more than the truck and that’s why he’s willing to sell it.”
What a diamond of a woman! She's so strong and resilient. She doesn't even need that man! 🤦 I love the Ramsey show, but the simpin' and worshiping of women can make it hard to watch.
Bad behavior is swept under the rug for women in todays society. Opportunities of an adult with zero accountability such as a child. Makes no sense. Men did not go through a “cultural revolution “ the ladies did. So yes this is a problem of the female gender
I'm a woman and I say she should feel guilty and she needs to get to work. Yes, get some counseling, but can we quit portraying the husband as the bad guy when he was financially faithful and it's clearly the woman not working, running up debt, and damaging the family finances. You can't get all worked up like she is if youre busy working. Forget school, that costs money. If youre gonna cry about your man selling a beloved possession get up off the couch and go down the street and go work at a store. Or go sell all the crap you bought if you really regret it. There is regret and there is regret with change.
Easier to just cry about it to Dr d
@drtij_dzienz yeah that is just gross. No accountability.
Poor guy, i bet he didnt know about her debt until he tied the knot
Hearing Simp shows like this is what's keeping men away ftom marriage. 2023 marriage rate fell to an all time low and it'll keep going lower as more men are fed up with women not being held accountable for their life choices yet at the same time is seeing decent men as the bad guy.
If the roles were reversed, Baloney would call the man a man-child and tell him to get to work to pay off that debt, but since its a woman calling, she's brave, powerful and a bad ass. No accountability whatsoever. She only feels bad to make herself feel like a victim in this call so the hosts would go easy on her.
If she really felt guilty (for reals) she would work extra to pay off the debt she racked up and refuse to let her husband sell his beloved jeep.
Quick version: Woman calls Dr Baloney admitting to what Dave Ramsey calls "financial infidelity" and the husband decides to sell something he loves to fix the problem. Baloney basically starts his response with "how much does he love this jeep, a ridiculous amount? an annoying amount". Now many of you will shrug this off, but this is an example of how the Ramsey network, specifically Dr Baloney minimizes and marginalizes men. He could have started by saying "you are lucky to be married to a man who loves you this much that he will sell his most beloved possessions to make things right". Of course he doesnt do that, its immediately right to portraying the man negatively. Now there will be a parade of fan girls that will stream in here for Dr Baloney, that's fine but go ahead go back and listen to the call, this happens within the first 2 min of the call. This is a subtle example of why men are going there own way, no matter what they do its never enough.
Dr. BALONEY needs to take a shovel to the face. However even so MGTOW is cringe
Dave takes their stones as a condition of employment
@@andrew8168lol it's evident with the soyboy millenial and kenneth "goob tube" coleman as well
@@andrew8168 could be I don’t know Colemans not bad, but this guy baloney is beyond the pale. I mean, literally without too much detail at all he’s already asking if the guy loves this thing a ridiculous amount an absurd amount. Why else would you do that unless you’ve got a problem with men?
His response _was_ “he loves you more than the Jeep and that’s why he’s willing to sell it.”
Image if the roles were reversed. People like John are just making it worse for women by not holding them accountable. Another free pass for the ladies
This guy and Dave are carrying 2 pair that don't belong to them shame ...
If the situations had been reversed and the man had been spending recklessly, he would be asking “do you feel safe?” And relentlessly attacking the man. Double standard much?
Baloney is a turd
Bingo. The man would be called a “man child” for putting the family in debt
Double standards are the way the Ramsey channel works.
This is why society is falling apart. Women like this are given the authority of men but the accountability of children.
@@FrankS111 well really it's the fact that money is conjured from nothing and then handed out to a select few of the population, most of them Jewish.
She just described what a simp is 💀
So if a man called and said I spent the money she has to pay he would not say “she knew what he sighed up for” he would say get to work and take care of ur family it’s not her responsibility to clean up ur mess
yeah, the double standard is nonsensical. are women responsible adults or not, apparently not according to this clown.
He would roast the man 100% of the times. No doubt about it.
Jesus…the simping and treating women like children by never holding them accountable is harming everyone. It hurts the relationship with their men AND society as a whole. Either women are children who are not held accountable for actions or they are adults and have accountability. It can’t be both
they are emotional like kids and they vote that way with their votes and their money. the 19th amendment was the beginning of the downfall of the US, and women have never been more unhappy since then. they had an easy job of stay at home mom while the husband goes off to die in war or in the coal mines, the Timber forests etc, now women are expected to work as wage slaves for you guessed it, mostly men bosses lol. women are more miserable than ever and they are not having enough kids to meet the birth replacement rate, thats why we are importing millions of 3rd worlders that will have kids. google UN replacement migration.
I was disappointed that he didn’t press about the root cause of her overspending problem.
Women are children who are not held accountable for their actions is the right answer
Speaking of Jesus, Ramsey teachings are based on Christian patriarchal beliefs.
@@austintomkewitz3981Feel free not to generalize next time, doofus
She should feel guilty about him selling the jeep. It's her fault. She needs to make amends to him. She needs to go to work to pay off the debts She made.
Women have life on easy mode
The only time a Ramsey host will say, "I'm proud of you" is when the caller is a female or an already successful guy.
The peace of mind that comes with paying down debt is far more valuable than the transient excitement you experience with material objects like a car. 😊
But didn't SHE rack up the debt? Is it HER car that's being sold to make up for her financial infidelity?
At the same time, she has to love him as much as he loves her and not rob him of simple joys in life because she's selfish.
Especially when it’s someone else’s car!
Yeah, specially when someone else gets to clean up all the financial mess you caused with no repercussions 🫠
I wouldn't feel proud of her. Her husband is suffering because of financial choices that *she* made. Of course he's going to love her more than the Jeep. That's not the point though. What was she buying with the credit card and is she keeping all of her purchases as opposed to selling them? Women have to take some responsibility when they mess up, too. The inability to do so is massively destabilizing in the grand picture. It makes men resentful.
If roles were reversed John would be shaming the guy and calling him a man child.
Yep every Ramsey show answer depends on gender
The guy would be getting blasted to smithereens if the roles were reversed, and especially if Dave was answering the call. The double standard is just asinine
This is a call that Jade needed to be on. She isnt gonna listen long to a woman crying when shes the cause of the problem and making her man do all the work.
What do you mean… Jade was on this call?
She’s not a mental health expert. Dr John is
@@drewdelaney4166 it's better if someone talks real to this whiney woman instead of being a simp and kissing her butt when she's the problem.
@@flashthecorgi2053 I said she needed to be on the call. To the other person, most mental health experts are not going to let someone escape accountability
@@Elizabeth_lowkeyluxuries I’m confused Jade was on the call and you keep saying “this is a call that Jade needed to be on”?
Damn she built up debt and quit her job to go to school! Her husband must be having a blast with this chaos!
So she admitted to recklessly spending on purpose, and the husband has to sell his Jeep to pay it all off and fund her going back to school. 🤦 That poor man
I love how John just makes up scenarios. This guy is so out to lunch
Well he IS American....
lunch is one of my favorite meals
@@froniccruxis1049easily in my top 3.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels that way.
Running up debt for school as well. Zero self awareness + no accountability.
She clearly feels guilty because she Knows how much she's spent...which Dr D isn't acknowledging!
So, what kind of car does she drive? What material sacrifices did she make?
If the roles were reversed, he would be called a Bum and a deadbeat. He would be told to “step up” and work another job.
He basically breastfed this Woman with false reassurance.
Where was any of that implied? She said they took steps to take care of her spending habits.
break up with her as soon as possible.
ARE YOU SAFE?! Get him off
Doloney is possibly one of the worst hosts. Shame that Jade didn’t take the lead on this one.
Lol the guy is sacrificing for the marriage and the women is focused on her feelings
Honey, no guy has ever loved me that much. Good for you!
Delony once again, treating women like big babies and not holding them accountable for their mess. I would like to know what this woman is doing to help clean up the mess she caused besides “feeling bad” for her husband having to sell his jeep to clean it up for her.
The Ramsey audience does NOT understand psychology & it shows.
As a Ramsey follower with an MA in psych, money & psych are both very tightly connected. You all just want to bash a woman(or man) for overspending, but you have no idea & John does. That’s why he reacts this way.
Your masters is in accountability avoidance. It’s not woman or man hating that people hate about him, it’s the speaking out both sides of his mouth hypocrisy and double standards
@@yodaddy4944 Again, you don’t understand. Grab a notepad & take some notes. Got it? Let’s start.
It’s religious based podcast. The Christian religion holds men accountable. The man is the “leader” of the home. He guides the whole house with a Godly hand. They hold men accountable because that’s what God does. It says so in the Bible. You cannot force your wife to do anything, but when she’s out running around blowing money…that’s a marriage problem. Overspending is linked with attachment or avoidance as we’ve discussed in the threads before. It’s linked to childhood trauma as well. In a marriage though, the data shows when a woman, specifically is blowing money behind her husband’s back, it’s either a husband never home working all the time or a husband that is emotionally absent. Period. When men spend, it’s usually out of fear. So gambling is attached to the trauma of abandonment. Men grow up to gamble as avoidance.
To tie those two ends, it’s a man’s job to be present for his wife & love her as Christ loved the church. If he’s not around, if he’s not involved, if she feels lonely (especially if she suffers from childhood trauma), a good majority of women will spend for fulfillment & to feel whole.
Class is over.
The main part of going forth in a strong and peaceful way is to never do this impulsive, selfish and destructive behavior again. Go and sin no more. That’s how you repay your family.
Actually, he loves his Jeep a lot! Technical toss up.
*That credit card that took such advantage of poor ladues is gone. 😂😂
Why does no one say to Men and fathers.. "The greatest thing you can give your child is a man who's fulfilled, who's at peace, and following their purpose", etc. I'm wondering cause John says phrases like this to women all of the time
I generally love this show and I think the advice is great most of the time. I have never seen them miss the mark this badly.
This lady needs to get out of school and get back to work to support her kids and family. If the guy decides to sell the car to help, that’s one thing. But do it to just pay off his wife’s reckless spending while she’s in school? Nah
Why is John giving her a complete pass and not addressing the root cause of her spending problem? Such a disservice. Can’t believe I’m about to give my very first thumbs down to one of Dave’s videos.
Because she already acknowledged her wrong doing, do you want her to get beat down even more? How about some compassion and forgiveness is what she needs. People act like they never did anything that warranted forgiveness.
As Jeep owner I can confirm a Jeep is indeed a giant go kart with big tires…
It’s pretty laughable at how they coddle, and encourages a woman’s mistakes, and not tell them the truth that they screwed up and need to get their priorities straight.
What happened to George? Haven't seen him in a while
George is a new father, haven't you heard? He has hosted a couple of shows this week.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 cool. Didn't know
For all the women out there. Run up debt and tell your husband to sell his truck to pay for the debt. I can't believe john the simp's advice.
dont get married... you shouldnt be responsible for the debt of others except maybe a childs college debt that you ofc agree to paying for. the fact that a woman can go behind your back and rack up 100's of thousands of CC debt and you're on the hook for it even if you get divorced is one of the many reasons to not get married. if you think the entity in the sky says you need a priest to marry you then so be it, but you dont need a government contract saying you're married.
She needs to look at the long term plan, not just today.
Delony is a damn fool for this take on this woman
I feel nauseous almost every time Delony is on. It's always the man's fault, what a politically correct joke of an advisor.
Its a damn jeep, it doesnt deserved to be loved to begin with
I wish they would get rid of this dude. He’s all over the place.
I feel like this call would've gone drastically different with Dave. John is such a simp sometimes
It's been a long time since I've had to be reminded not too scroll through the comments section too much, but this video jogged my memory. Jeez, people, calm down. I'd love to peak into your marriages.
She got the family into this situation and clearly feels shame. Wasn’t held accountable and Baloney just simped the entire time. Grasping at straws per usual John!
She made her husband have new hope in their marriage. That’s why he was willing to give up the Jeep for her . He admires the work she put in for herself , and now he sees a clear logical path to a better future.
This is awful advice…a mother should physically be there…not working on their PhD or off in a career
Idk I'll take the Jeep over Brandy that sounds pretty sweet.
Totally agree with the comments that a mom being there, happy and healthy is far better than any lessons, etc… at the time our children were growing up we did not have much so we did not do much extra’s. Our children grew up to be very good adults. Be active parents but that does not mean buying a lot of things is you don’t have the money.
Too much hate here. She’s genuinely repentant and working to pay the debt off.
And no, Dr. D. was not out of line. His response was “your husband loves you more than the truck and that’s why he’s willing to sell it.”
She’s not working, she’s spending more money on “school”
✝️🙏
So proud of her 🤢
What a diamond of a woman! She's so strong and resilient. She doesn't even need that man! 🤦 I love the Ramsey show, but the simpin' and worshiping of women can make it hard to watch.
Stunning and brave
I regret to inform you that:
Women.
You remind me of my Jeep -
"You're watching your mom become a gangster in front of your very eyes" - underrated!
I'm assuming this a good thing.
“Gangsters” aren’t exactly the pinnacles of society.
And yet she didn't do anything, but bring the family down financially and then whine about it to a simp radio host.
Lemme guess, "Mr. Corny" John spewing some more corny nonsense here?
Yeah doesn't try making the woman accountable.
Is this a woman being accountable 😮. Are 🐷 gonna start flying.
Of wait she wants him to pay so just acknowledgement not accountability. Phew thought I was hallucinating.
@@djpuplex lol and Dr. BALONEY is in board
@@dungeonmaster6292 of course he knows his audience
So many woman haters in these comments. Good Lord…
More like raw truth tellers
Bad behavior is swept under the rug for women in todays society. Opportunities of an adult with zero accountability such as a child. Makes no sense. Men did not go through a “cultural revolution “ the ladies did. So yes this is a problem of the female gender
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Lol nope