"She Was Not Charles' True Love" Charles And Diana’s Wedding | Royal Experts Watchalong
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- Rewind to July 29 1981, Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister, The Specials were No.1 with Ghost Town and it was the day heir apparent Prince Charles married the woman that would go on to become the People's Princess Diana Spencer.
TalkTV brings you a special Royal Tea episode where Sarah Hewson is joined on the sofa by a number of royal experts and watchers to cast their minds back to that wonderful day and rewatch the wedding ceremony giving their exclusive reactions.
The Sun’s Royal Photographer Arthur Edwards, former Royal Editor Emily Andrews, TalkTV Royal Correspondent Rupert Bell, Us Weekly’s Royal Editor Christine Ross and royal commentator Afua Hagan all join Sarah for the royal wedding watchalong.
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I was always under the impression that the Queen Mother and Lady Formoy were the ones who orchestrated the marriage between their grandchildren. It was arranged and promoted without any consideration to the well being of either Charles or Diana. And sadly, neither one understanding the emotional drain "doing their duty" to marry would have on them both. That marriage was never going to end well. It was nothing more than (even for those times) an archaic and outmoded arranged marriage. So very sad and tragic.
Charles knew in his heart it was an arranged marriage. Unfortunately, 19 Yr old, romantic Diana truly loved him. Charles couldn't fake it. And here we are.
@@venusrising6554 Correct. What a mess.
That was my recollection also. She was the chosen broodmare. Sadly
The late Lord Louis Mountbatten also had a strong hand in persuading Charles to marry Diana, as much as the late Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, and Diana's grandmother Lady Fermoy.
It was unfortunate but it produced William, and if only for that, then we are thankful!
No matter what, kamila is a queen, But Princess Diana legacy is for ever, Her son and grandson great grandson etc,,,,,, will become a future kings of England,
RIP PRINCESS DIANA, The whole world 🌎 always remember you, England Rose 🌹 ❤❤❤
👏 👏 👏
❤ 🌹
I am the same age as Diana would have been. So when I was 19 and I watched that engagement interview where Charles said “whatever in love means” even I knew then this was going to end in tears. How her family let her go through with this is still beyond me.
Especially when she later said she wanted to cancel the wedding a few days before....they should have supported her!
There’s different types of love; Charles loved Diana, but was in love with Camilla.
I believe Diana & Charles were in loved at the beginning and they both tried to save the marriage as much as they can.
I was watching the wedding in a medical ward in Australia with the patients and other nurses. It was magical!! I am 68 now still gives me goosebumps. I am a Malaysian indian. My mother was a Monarchist. She had a special saree stiched to watch the queen on her visit to Malaya after her coronation. I watch everything about the British Royal.
She has proved herself to be very worthy of becoming our queen,❤❤❤
Diana's drama was a result of what she was put through and ignored... even her bulimia started after Charles told her...her waist was full... she just wanted to please him.
I wonder if you were the wife...how much you would have thought...she's proven to be worthy to be queen!! People have short memories or weren't even born....they don't remember the humiliations they put Diana through! 😢 of course she reacted....you'd be inhuman not to do so.
@@BBBGGG9647 Hindsight is a terrible thing. In my country we have a saying 'regret always comes too late' and naturally I think if they knew then what everybody knows now, things would have been different. I was one of the people that felt angry after Diana's death. But you have to look at it from all sides. I am sure Charles tried to make it work but all he was dong was prolonging the inevitable. The stress of the life also got to Diana, which would not have helped any where her bulimia was concerned and of coarse knowing that her husband loved someone else too. Camilla met and loved Charles first. I am not condoning their actions at the time but does anybody honestly expect them live the rest of their lives unhappy?
except she isnt queen!
Diana and Charles marriage was a sham. I feel bad for both of them. She knew he loved someone else and hoped she could break it. I think Charles and Camilla is a love story of huge proportions.
Diana's romantic love for Charles, her beauty & innocent sweetness transformed her into "Cinderella" and the world fell in love with her. In so many ways, they still are.
I totally agree. Dianna and Charles marriage was a disaster waiting to happen.
I know this may not be a popular opinion but I always saw Camilla as the one he truly wanted to marry but the royal family disagreed, thus technically making Diana the "other" woman.
I think Charles did love Diana or tried to but they were not a match. She loved him as a nineteen year old girl. At the time of her death they were coparenting brilliantly. So if she had of lived , I like to imagine that she would have found true love and be happily married and of course at the King s Coronation:)
Charles was trapped in the last vestiges of a Victorian monarchy. I always felt that as an aristocratic family, the Spencers might have warned her about what it was going to be like, or maybe she just refused to listen.
The Spencer's were instrumental in help arrange the marriage.... The Queen Mother and Diana's Grandmother both played their part
The Spencer's have had a long standing relationship with the royals dating back thousand years.
You seem to forget that Camilla had a hand in the pairing of Charles with Diana. Poor Diana was young and was manipulated by them both. Charles got his innocent bride and Camilla kept her man.
@@clarifyingquestionsa little while before she died she had said....she would always love him.
I'm almost sure even said it on Panorama.
She was on good terms with him when she accepted it was what it was and she would never have him.
Thank goodness you had Arthur and Rupert on - two guests on that could remember it. What was the point of having the others on?
Let us ALL remember Diana was a 19 year old GIRL when she got engaged to a 32 year old MAN
I remember setting my alarm clock for 5:00AM to watch this wedding. Princess Diana's dress was really over-the-top and has not really aged well. In contrast, Grace Kelly's and Catherine Middleton's wedding dresses are classic, and they are still quite fashionable today. It's so painful to watch the wedding now that we know what was happening behind the scenes. But, for everything there is a season, and this marriage produced a wonderful heir to the throne. Rest in peace, Diana, in the knowledge that your son will someday be a dutiful and beloved King.
Appreciate the lovely words about Diana from Arthur
KC is now with his one and only true love, thankfully.
His first marriage was never going to make it.
You did not mention the most important part of the balcony kiss: Diana: "They want us to kiss." Charles: "Should we?" Diana: "Why ever not?"
Da the whole world knew Charles love Camille and not Diana.
If he loved Camilla so much, then why did he also see Lady Dale Tryon while married to Diana? There was a fierce competition between the two of them, and poor Diana was team Kanga and wore her designer clothes to show whose side she was on! 😮
The public had never heard of Camilla at the time. You are imagining it.
I watched the documentary movie about Charles and Camille and I loved it..she was his rock ! ❤❤
She's his mother....and his rock
The Emmanuels who designed Princess Diana’s wedding dress also made the controversial sleeveless black ballgown the then Lady Diana wore the night she met Princess Grace of Monaco.
Thank you for this royal wedding series! I live in Colorado USA. There is a seven-hour time difference between me and you. Yet, I got up super-early and watched each of these weddings as they happened. I appreciate you transporting me back in time!
Sane except I’m 6 hours 😂
I think everone knew he was not in love with her even when they were engaged! "are you in love?", Diana "Of course!" Him "Whatever love means!"
Yes, I remember that answer well. I almost gasped. Ironically, I had the same foreboding as I watched the engagement appearance of Harry and Meghan. However Diana quite literally came across as the blushing "innocent" bride, while Meghan came across as a rather tartily dressed insincere poseur.
@@susanyoung6331Do you remember the look on poor Diana's face as she slowly realized what he had just said? I felt sick to my stomach after hearing that come out of his mouth and I knew then that Diana didn't know what she was walking into. Poor innocent lamb!
THANK YOU FOR HONORING DIANA❤
Diana would’ve been the best Queen. She was a fabulous ambassador.
There is more to Charles & Diana than their tragic marriage, Di should be remembered for her philanthropy and her compassion towards people, a platform she gained through marriage, Charles on the other hand for his work with the Prince's Trust. They both made mistakes but that didn't define who they were as people. Lastly no one can love Diana more than her two sons who actually spent time her. Don't denigrate to a hurt human being because that was only part of the story, she was courageous and diligent she is more that what people and the media make her out to be.
I was in first year university, aged 6 months younger than Diana. I watched in my college TV room. I was so impressed by Diana. Her fashions completely influenced our fashions. I bought so mamy books about her and followed her life closely. Sadly, over the years, I lost respect for Diana, due to all the public mega dramas.
Love Arthur he says it straight up!!
These were fun! Definitely do more of these, please!
I enjoyed this 'triple bill' of Royal Weddings and would like to see it extended to include the weddings of Princess Anne and Sarah Ferguson, both of whose wedding dresses I preferred to Princess Diana's. Add in Prince Edward's wedding to Sophie Rhys-Jones and you would have covered all the late Queen's children and her two senior grandchildren. That would be one heck of a six pack! Season's Greetings to all!
Diana loved Charles but it was an arranged Marriage on his side to keep his parents happy
or thought she loved him - her being only 19 works both ways. ie did she even know what love was? She met him how many times before saying I Do?
It doesn’t work both ways. She loved him like the 19 year old she was. He was 33 and in love with another woman. Not the same thing at all. They met 13 times before the wedding. !! And people say romance doesn’t exist ! 🤣😂😅
@@clarifyingquestionsof course you can know at 19....I know people who met at 15 and 17... 45 years on still together and happily married.
@@user-fq8rs7rz3iDiana was 20 and Charles 32 when they married.
@suej9329 Yes... just! Was 19 when got engaged in February and duration of courtship....turned 20 on 1st July and got married on 29th July... 28 days into her 20th year.
Charles was on the way out of his 32nd year with his 33rd birthday 3.5 months away.
Basically, it's almost 13 years her senior.
Charles always loved Camilla. Diana was a lovely and wonderful woman, she truly was, but Camilla is his true love.
Camilla was one of a few. What about the other mistress who ended up in a wheel chair?!
@@sandyschneider6792 Who were these 'other' women? Wheelchair?? Please explain. 😘
@@sandyschneider6792,Ah yes…. “Kanga”as Charles nicknamed her. Lady Dale Tryon. Camilla and Kanga fought over Charles…. Although they were both married. Kanga’s son is named Charles and Charles is his GodFather.
@trapped7534 Yes, remember Diana even supported Lady Dale Tryon in her competition with Camilla by wearing her designer clothing to a public event. Diana really couldn't stand Camilla. She called her the "Rottweiler"!
if she had had it spelt out “this is an arranged marriage: produce the heir and spare” it may have been different. if they’d BOTH entered it knowing what the requirements were, it may have been a different story
After following the Royals for a little Over a decade since 2011. I Still can't pin-point on why The Royal Family even The Queen Mum was so Aganist Camilla being a member of the Royal Family.
Had Charles Married Camilla In the first place the Royals wouldn't even be as popular as they were back in 2011-2017(Pre-Meghan Markle). Diana was Truly a gift for them & I think it took them a while to realize it even after Her death.
I am American and even I know that Charles always knew all the members of the Spencer family. They lived on the Sandringham Estate in a home growing up. Diana's father was not Earl yet when they were young. The sisters did not introduce Diana to Charles. They knew each other always.
We all know how this "fairy Tale" ended up...How utterly stupid to listen to the people on this video talking about "fairy tales"...But boy how the whole "fairy tale" bit really sells, and the public just ate it up, It was great PR for them for sure, until this farce fell apart...so much for the ridiculous notion of "fairy tales" when it comes to real life..
Not sure if I'll watch this episode. Based on the title - why is this even an episode? Why can't the media let things go & stop digging up stories that could be so wounding to current day people & their families. Seems like it'll be no better than the tabloids & the netflix Crown.
Yes and they are all too young to comment. Only Arthur and Rupert were even there!
Love and have so much respect for Arthur. Such a nice man ❤
Where can we buy the mug that Arthur uses?
I love Arthur!!!
Ridiculous program. Besides, we don’t see what you see.
I enjoyed Artur Edwards comments.
Charles is King now and has been married to Camilla for longer than he was married to Diana.
What is the point of rehashing this? I won't watch it.
You won’t watch because you feel let down by the RF. be honest. They made an horrendous mistake in the marriage of C&D. It was so wrong to do that to Diana. And Charles never gave up Camilla. What a rotten mess.
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i The Spencers were as much in on it as the RF. It was an archaic system that couldn't last in modern times.
Unless it comes directly from the Royal Family, the only other person I TRUST for Royal information is Lady C.
Love Lady C, her wit and I formative videos, but I've always trusted Arthur Edwards. He is a consumate professional who has always truly cared about his studies. A true gentleman.
I’m sorry, but I didn’t like Diana’s dress. What a crumpled mess. And Diana’s hair had fallen, not enough fixing agent. 🤣
But she still looked like a fairytale princess.
Diana didn't like it either, so she would agree with you!
I was 11 and wanting a fairytale. The country was in a sorry state at the time, and we all wanted to see something magical.
There is a big difference between falling in love and having a long, happy marriage.
Times really were different then - if Charles had been able to marry someone nearer his own age the tabloids would have picked her past life apart.
If you look back on here there is an ITN interview from a few days before the wedding and it is Diana who looks disengaged and Charles who is trying to be enthusiastic.
I think there was something there, but they didn’t know each other very well. They shared no interest.
But they had two sons who were clearly loved.
The rest, as they say, is history.
But it was still a lovely occasion. I watched the whole day and there was a street party in the evening. I can still remember what I wore and what we talked about.
He never wanted to marry Diana.
It was Mountbatten who told Charles to marry Diana. He interfered with his upbringing and life too much IMO
I wish we'd seen more of the filmclips overlaid with the commentary, than so much focus on the commentators. I'm a bit bored now.
Me having read the title of this video: “duh”.
I was aghast at Charles's answer during the engagement interview. I thought it was a very stupid thing to say, and it turned me off on him for a long time. I immediately thought that this wasn't going to last. We know now - what I felt then - that this was a mistake. But Charles was under a lot of pressure to find a wife and produce an heir. Like millions of others I loved Diana. However, I'm glad that he and Camilla are so happy now and that he has finally come into his destiny. I wish them both every blessing. This program was very enjoyable, particularly the way the hosts were paired off.
Even marriages that aren't arranged fail so no easy
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Strikes me a bit odd, that use are digging the Diana Charles wedding.
To what point or purpose
She is dead
He is remarried....
Spot on! It’s to stir the pot,
same time he treated diana badly what was it he said to her after she had william and harry he said i am only with you because of the children it just horrible to say that to your wife at the time and she had problems such as bulimia and self harm she was suffering it just sad what happened to her that night i know what happened to her that night its just so traumatic
There is zero evidence Prince Charles said that. Diana later refuted some of the claims she made to Andrew Morton about what Charles allegedly said.
They were definitely inlove!!!
We will never know the real truths of so much of it. My personal opinion…. Diana was the innocent lamb,led to the slaughter by a Royal Family that needed an heir.
The Queen and Prince Philip knew Charles didn’t love her and they didn’t care. Diana was the innocent….Camilla and Charles never intended to be apart.
I still to this day cry when I see things pertaining to this wedding. She was an extraordinary human being who loved her husband. He hated her because he saw her as the obstacle between Camilla and his happiness.
I am grateful that Diana lived long enough for her sons to know her.
she cheated as much as he did in the end
I got a kick out of the commentary and reporting provided by those who didn’t watch it live.
We know that!! Something new please
Tell us something we don't know 😂
Well DUH!
Don't forget the affairs Diana had plus the stalking of that Dr and Carling & his marriage! Not only immature but very cunning when she wanted to be.
Basically, he married his mistress. And made her queen. It doesn’t seem so bad now, but how will history portray it?
Charles should have married Camilla. The British royal family would be better off, no twisted Harry!!! So glad they got their happy ever after
Really? But at what cost?
This is the power of who is in authority this time
And many videos of their preferences will come out according to their power.
The result will appear at the end of King Charles's life. And we will see..
I don't care about Camilla, she's the one who was a home wrecker, old and ugly, she'll never have Diana's class, Diana was gorgeous, and Charles was not up to her class, the only thing is him being a Prince then, but princess Diana will never be replaced by Camilla , it's Princess Diana who gave Charles the heir to the throne, you'll always be loved by the whole world, beautiful Princess Diana ❤❤❤
Yuk what a line up on this panel quite horrific … will not watch these hypocrites cheerio
Used to produce kids then chucked out like a used dish rag! DIANA won in the end even though she is no longer with us she was queen in my eyes!! Always will be!!!
You are stuck in the past and blinded to her faults
@@ISouza-qs9yy if I want your opinion I will ask for it! Until then keep them to yourself! Happy New year!! Not!!!
Oooh looks like u have a troll on patrol
Awe well she was happy and willing to go along with it. Fully aware she was the other woman! Speaks volumes
won what exactly 😂 a fancy dress and high heels
Every one has there opinions I have just aired mine not asking for other people's really!!
How can somebody who died have won! She missed out on the rest of her sons’ childhoods, their marriages their children - the rest of their lives. Not to mention her own happiness. 😢
She was a 19-year-old very innocent and somewhat naïve girl who really thought she was living a fairytale. RIP Diana, pow.
Way did Dina merry Charls. ?
Cadillac 😮lollied on marrying ParkerBowles, having his children, hovering in the background before and after Charles married Diana. . And then showing their base selves in that intercepted phone call! Who thinks like that! Unbelievably unwholesome. So much irreparable damage visited on countless others. Weak, self-indulgence.
The then Prince of Wales, wasn’t the first Prince of Wales in history to marry for duty, over love. But King Charles III, may well be the last Prince of Wales, to marry for duty, over love.
Long live our King.
Diana was truly wonderful! We don’t care about Camilla
Princess Diana looked like a real princess, compared to any other females that got married in the RF. She was so beautiful and I loved her dress.
Not the dress. Diana was beautiful
Diana was nothing more than a brood mare she was expected to produce the heir and the spare and then fade into the background whilst he dallied henceforth with his mistress.
Not that simple.
It's true. Camilla & Charles have special bond. They have a love child together & now that has expanded to a family & even grand children & great grand children too. Nothing compared to The Harkles'. These souls in Brisbane, Australia are genuinely pure & simple. Nothing like Harry Hewlett.
Please go outside and touch grass.
Have a lie down on the grass. 🤣
Poor Diana was used by the Royal family as a piece of furniture! It's was one of the most ignobil things they all could have done!
We all know Charlie Boy's favourite was Susan George.
FGS, let it rest! The story of Charles and Diana’s tragic marriage woes need to stop.
Have you nothing better to report on. We all know she wasn't. Let her rest in peace
I was alive and plenty old enough to remember Diana's wedding. Even for the 80s, that was the ugliest wedding dress!
Worst Royal wedding dress
No she wasn't but the royal ones used her in the most ignobil way
At Meghan and Harry’s wedding, no one in the RF looked happy, but they were at Diana’s and Charles’ wedding.
From everything I observed--Princess Diana actually loved charles, but he NEVER even liked her! Her only purpose, as far as he and camilla were concerned, was to function as a broodmare and then to stay out of sight, always in the background and always silent- so they could maintain their adulterous affair. OMG the two of them were only a few years shy of being twice Princess Diana’s age. I cannot fault Princess Diana for looking for love wherever she could find it, because of the abysmal way she was used. This is my opinion based upon from everything I have read, observed, and learned since they met. I lost all respect for him and still cannot have a single positive feeling for either him or his mistress.
Do you think he started disliking her when she started getting so much attention in the press or did he dislike her because she was so young and they had nothing in common to talk about. Usually older women are fearful their husband will take up with a younger woman, it was so baffling but then again my ex husband reminds me of Charles. I'm a former high fashion model, I looked regal like Diana when I was young and tall, slim and blonde like her when I was young.
@@jamilgotcher365 I honestly believe that he actually hated Princess Diana mostly because she was not camilla and had a mind of her own! I believe he hated her from day one.
I didn’t buy into the whole fairy tale rubbish. The public wanted their dreams and fantasies fulfilled, putting enormous pressure on the couple who couldn’t possibly live up to their expectations. Frankly I always thought they were doomed from the beginning, they had absolutely nothing in common. Diana loved the city and parties, Charles loved the country and country pursuits. Diana needed attention 24/7, Charles had enormous responsibilities that he couldn’t neglect. Diana read romances, Charles philosophy and theology. Absolutely nothing in common. In every marriage there comes a time you actually have to talk to one another. They had nothing to talk about. Really, you shouldn’t blame either of them, they were just incompatible. Charles needed a strong woman to support him. He has that in Queen Camilla. Diana wanted someone to worship at her feet. Unfortunately she did not have her needs fulfilled.
Princess Diana was no more than a child. Charles was selfish and self centered hardly Kingly or charming.
Charles was raised with no options but to do his duty. He needed his mother's permission to marry.
@@janetclaireSays And however excuse his behavior in this? Good he is happy with Camila, but this is still what I want behavior
@@ladymary22 It was an aristocratic/royal arranged marriage and the Spencers were as involved in setting it up as the Royals were. Charles and Diana were caught in the middle of it. But Diana would have known the score going in, she was an aristocrat and knew what she was getting into..She may have been emotionally incapable of making a good choice when dazzled with the idea of one day becoming Queen, but her family did nothing to dissuade her. Because in their circle, Charles was the big prize.
@@janetclaireSaysDiana never wanted to be Queen. She just wanted a man that loved her, and children to shower their love on. Poor girl got nothing she hoped for.
You people laughing with or mocking at her 😮
I think people need to stop romanticising relationship between Charles and Camilla. She was a pro in the bedroom department, swinging from a chandelier etc. Diana had no such experience and it wasn’t interesting enough for Charles. He also had other women at the same time including an Australian he nicknamed Kanga. Camilla hated her guts as she was a competitor. In reality Charles needed a “mummy” not a wife, as I believe he’s an emotionally weak man.
And Charles was not Diana's true love.....That's why Harry is James Hewitt's son.
Not true.
It's obvious that Harry is Charles' son.
He is NOT! I saw James Hewitt, and Harry, save the colouring of beard and hair, is like Charles, same voice, same intonation, same eyes and with age he is more Windsor than William.
Camilla mistress.
Charlie is a liar and hypocrite.