@@RandallsAdventureESEE I have one knife in 3V. it gets my vote as well. I've used an LT Wright GNS 3v in saber grind as hard as any of my other knives and it hasn't failed yet. Holds an edge really well too.
I have every ESEE except the ESEE 5 and when I got the S35VN ESEE 4 I was just satisfied with the performance. As I have collected knives and put them through hard use I’ve found 1095 to be the best non stainless and CPM154 to be the best well rounded powdered metal stainless.
I’ve had my 3 for almost a year now so I’ve gotten to know the pros and cons of the knife .Pros : The S35vn has excellent edge retention and is relatively easy to sharpen in the field . I was able to completely process two white tails before needing to touch up the edge . The steel is highly corrosion resistant I’m in or around saltwater everyday and this knife hasn’t shown even a spot of rust .Cons : The g10 scales make the knife way too handle heavy . I replaced them with standard linen scales and it restored the balance . Lastly the edge microchips under lateral stresses like scraping fiberglass and other hard materials . Even though this knife isn’t perfect it’s my edc and dedicated skinning knife it’s worth every penny .
we try to stay on top of them....but they are coming in like machine gun fire across all social media platforms!! LoL....we miss a few here or there but not many.
Good demo, most people appreciate it I'm sure. We all know there will be those that will purposefully destroy stuff just to get the views. As others have said, it is most excellent to have such open communication with a company on the how and why when a product fails... whatever the reason. There are products out there that are not worth a fraction the asking price and the company ignores consumer feedback completely. It is a crowded market these days and this type of open communication really shines through to keep ESEE at the front.
Love the honesty. I picked up the S35VN ESEE 4 for smaller tasks, not trying to baton thick logs. I keep an axe/hatchet or the ESEE 6 1095 for that. Though 3V would be great. Or now Magnacut for the ESEE 4. Hope to see new options soon, this video is 4 years old!
@@RandallsAdventureESEE I just received it. Wow its hands down my favorite knife now. I was a little worried that the Esse 4 handle would be too small for my big hands says some other reviews but Man it fits in my hand like a glove. The hunk of S35vn is fantastic. I would say Y'all should come out with a complete s35 lineup offer the classic amazing 1095 and now this s35 in all models. Thanks again.
I just got my 3 in the s35vn today! #26!!! It is beautiful, surgically sharp, feels so good in the hand! Very excited To see this video gentlemen thank you, glad it held up and it reinforced my purchase decision! Thank you for revisiting the test!!!
Hey fellas, its me again. lol Patrick, you summed it up well. As I stated in the last video, I love my ESEE 6's blade shape and I've never had a performance issue with it. I'd just love one in stainless because it is the perfect blade length and shape for doing almost any realistic knife work in the field, camp, or kitchen. If ESEE never makes the 6 in anything but 1095, I'll still be digging my knife. Thanks for all you do!
Glad to hear you are pleased....enjoy that knife..it's a great blade...and I named my Lab after the Izula! Izula May Adams is my 5.5yr old chocolate Lab!
Knives for knife tasks is the answer to any questions. I have two 1095 E4's and one in stainless steel all perform admirably in general medium use. The stainless 4 is my canoe/throw in a pack and forget till I need it knife because of it's resistance to corrosion. Stainless will always be harder and more brittle than the more forgiving 1095hc but will maintain a surgical edge for longer in fine tasks. I pick the knife that suits the activities I'm likely to do. Survival situation or a knife longer than 4"?1095 and a field sharpening kit all the way! Good drills and skills both and excellent knives. Still love the new handles by the way.
I think it's great yall revisited the testing. Also glad yall broke the knife first, realistically using a thin knife to baton with is a worse case scenario but we all know someone will do it just because and then cry about it.
thanks Gregg...we wanted to find the limitations and communicate those to our customers BEFORE they had too....this video is in response to MANY questions that the first video raised.
Awesome review. I just purchased, my first, Esee 3 all black, with the 3D g10. Can't wait to put it through it's paces. I've been an Izula fan for years. Always wanted a 3. Nice work, gentlemen.
Just my cent's worth: the nature of the work informs the selection of the tool one should use. Under normal circumstances that makes good sense. There are times, however, where one might not have quite the number of tools to choose from in order to get work done. So, the obvious answer is that of Lord Baden Powell, "Be prepared!" When applied to wilderness adventuring of some sort, it is important to remember this. So, one should prepare for unusual situations - being out in the wild and the biggest cutting tool you have is a 3 inch bladed knife seems somewhat unprepared. A 3" blade is fine for fine work, food prep, carving, cordage, minor delimbing, etc. When it gets to the heavy stuff (as in the video) a more robust tool is required (in the case in point, an ESEE 5 would have been much more effective, and probably would not suffer harm). Even heavier lumber might require a proper splitting axe/maul, and/or using steel wedges. Alternatively, use other sources of wood more fit for purpose. A person out in the wild carrying everything on his/her back is highly unlikely to need to split large rounds, or gnarled logs. Improbable scenarios are fine for TH-cam videos and accumulating "likes", but I'm not convinced of the value of some of the advice given ( current persons excepted - the video was very fair and balanced). However, I admit to be being somewhat "anti-batoning" , except as an extreme emergency, where speed is of the essence, but such occasions tend to be rare. It is incredible to see what can be accomplished with some sturdy wedges (wood), and even more with metal ones, rather than bashing one's knife through a log unnecessarily. Thanks for the well-made video.
your approach is very similar to ours...just bc you CAN doesn't mean you should.... in a real life survival situation I'm doing everything I can to protect my blade, and every other resource I have, protect it and use it in a way the keeps it serviceable longer.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE Thank you for that reply. When I was younger I used to make knives. One irate customer brought a knife I'd made back to me with about 1/4' broken at the tip. I was livid, but I asked how it had happened? He was hurling the large blade at an oak tree! I reground the blade for him and promptly told him my guarantee had now expired and that I never wanted to see him again. I have no respect for people like that.
If all I have is a small knife like this in a survival situation, I would be carving wedges to baton rather than batoning with my knife, be it 1095 or S35VN. It makes no sense to baton if that is the only cutting implement that I have in such a situation. Not trying to be smart but I would rather treat my knife with care if that is the only one I have.
@@andyhooutdoors Honestly...we beat on this knife WAY more than the video showed...but we didn't really want to do a "torture test"....we wanted real world tasks more than anything and then to push the envelop a bit...the photos at the end of this video show the knives side by side at the conclusion of the test.....both were new when we started....the S35vn knife looked UNTOUCHED....and was still SUPER SHARP! I was impressed!
Randall's Adventure / ESEE I don’t have much experience with S35VN other than a Firecraft FC3.5 from Whiteriver knives and a couple of Sebenza and Hinderer. Most of the outdoors knives I have are mainly high carbon steels, even though I am in the tropical rainforest. This makes me very very curious to try the S35VN that you guys put out. Big thanks for making this happen!
I retired my 1095 ESEE-3 that was attached to my lifejacket and used for multi-week backcountry canoe trips last year. I replaced it with a Spyderco Enuff in H1. Great little rescue blade but a 2" serrated warncliff isn't very versatile as a general outdoors knife and necessitated a belt knife be brought in the canoe barrel. I'm happy to have the option of replacing the ESEE-3 with the same model in a stainless version. I will probably try to swap the contoured scales of the new one with the original's flat orange G10 slabs to keep it compact while attached to my vest. In any event this is just what I was waiting for the last 2 years. I figured the ESEE-3 would eventually be issued in 440SS like the model 4 was. That ESEE went to S35vn for the model-3 is a super bonus! Now, I just have to wait for a Canadian distributor to get their hands on this new stock.....Hoping that happens before the ice melts!
Thanks for doing a follow up on the S35VN ESEE 3 showing REASONABLE use and it's amazing edge retention! The rope cut test showed all that needs to be said about the abilities of the CPM stainless steel. Thank you
Knife Video Channel the photos at the end are from the actual test too. Taken at the conclusion of all the testing. You can see the use on the 1095 and the S35vn is spotless and still razor sharp.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE Believe it or not, Out of all the knives previewed at Shot , The ESEE 3 S35VN was my biggest surprise! Added bonus the 3D contoured scales for not much more over 1095/Flat scaled version. I ordered one from Knifeworks as soon as available! Awesome you guys listened to your customer base and also stepping outside your steel comfort zone. Nicely done
@@RandallsAdventureESEE For Sure! I hope the rollout goes well and people "use" common sense when using the S35VN. I know you guys don't want a bunch of broken blades for warranty. I'm hoping for the Izula 2 in S35VN down the road!
Recently bought my 3rd esee 3! Was looking at getting this model but I just can’t get away from the classic esee 3. The 2 I purchased before have been going on strong for 4 years now and as long as you oil them up (I prefer tuff cloth) they are very rust resistant with it.
I just ordered the Esee s35vn for food prep, camp activities AND the Junglas 10.5 inch in 1095 for everything else. Decided to buy murican made and the warranty convinced me over other brands.
Appreciate your honesty about what's a reasonable expectation from any steel. It's always a give and take relationship when balancing desired qualities.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE It definitely came across in the right way. I'm still trying to wrap my head around why 1095 is perceived as tougher when both it and S35VN test in that 10ft/lbs range.
I've purchased 3 esee knives love the 1095 5 minutes on a strop with some compound they are always brought back to a razor's edge you really gotta jack with that s35vn to get it back to crazy sharp although it does last long way harder to sharpen but I do like the idea of a corrosion resistant stainless good work
S35VN works on every strop and whetstone, its not that hard to sharpen. But It performs different if you use a normal whetstone compared to a CBN or Diamond stone. The Diamond and CBN stones make S35VN freakishly and stupidly sharp, while normal stones struggle. Arkansas stones are a different class for me they dont belong in normal but also not in high class, they suffer while sharpening S35VN and dont produce a nice edge. The first time I tried Sharpening S35VN I went with my smexy Arkansas, no lie I felt like I was Sharpening the stone instead of tha knife. It didn't take long and S35VN ate a recurve in the Arkansas, I normal go with Diamonds when sharpening a PM steel. Alumina stones also dont perform perfectly on S35VN but get the job done.
I love carbon steel. But i think I'm gonna get one of these 3's in s35vn for whitetail's this next deer season. It seems like the perfect size and steel combo for field dressing, skinning, quartering, etc.
Most any knife can be sharpened to a really sharp edge, but eventually any steel will get dull. I have several knives in 1095. I can get them sharp but they don’t stay sharp as long as the ones I have in S30V. However, once the 1095 gets dull, I can bring the edge back in the field pretty quick with diamond stones or even a ceramic rod (if the edge isn’t too dull). With the stainless, I have to take the knife back home and use my Baldor buffer to get the edge back to where it was. With the 1095 carbon, I don’t think it’s the metallurgy or the heat treatment that’s the problem. I think the steel just gets corroded pretty quickly when it’s around my sweaty self. Yes I put oil on the blade but rust does happen. With the stainless, my knives stay sharp until I dull the edge cutting stuff, not just sitting in the sheath rusting.
I love ESSE knives, they have the best warranty in the business, just read one of their boxes. I agree with these guys, use the right tool for the job, it's just common sense.
The key word is Ductility . The ability for a steel to flex without breaking and return to its' original shape. IMO - properly heat treated 1095 excels in ductility. Thanks for this video.
There was a time I took my 6 out and thought it was a skill set to baton down a log 5&1/2” around and got wedged. I seen the bends the 1095 took and recovered from and new Esse was co to stick with.
I just ordered my Esee 3 1095 with the 3D handles, the new grips look awesome! I’ve had my laser strike for over 8 years and it’s been used and abused and has held up great!
thanks for the honesty guys. still the best warranty out there and you back up what you claim. you handle 1095 better than most anybody. i’ve turned many friends and family on to esee and they love them. good stuff. 👍🏼
If you guys want to go with cpm s35vn just Make it a bit softer about 58 Hrc (like Chris Reeve Professional Soldier knife) the knife won't loose a lot of its edge retention ability but will increase its impact resistance and toughness.
58 is below what CPM advises for this steel....and we don't really want to give up the edge retention....if folks that buy it use it as a knife and not a battering ram there would NEVER be an issue. We wanted to maximize edge retention and did so by sticking the the manufactures guidelines on HRC
i am very very happy about this development! Maybe in the furute you guys can look at some 3V wich is just super tougth and has simmerlar edge retention to s35vn :D but it is more expensive, i think s35vn is just Fine at 60! I dont think many people can reasonably break a >4 inch s35vn blade
I've had this S35Vnknife since it came out. It sounds "tinny" if you tap on it. I've never had a blade display that effect. It's quite strange. Mine does not hold an edge worth a damn. Could it be these fine fellows obtained a defective batch of steel? Bad heat treat which made it too brittle? My other knives with S35VN, in other brands, have a better edge retention. As far as it breaking - you can abuse even an anvil enough and it will break.
it's great that you guys listen to your customers. mucho props! i'll stick with 1095 for my 3, though. it serves it's purposes for me. and now that i've etched and played with some "patina" methods, i no longer worry about it going "red". i still haven't found a need to buy any other knives/brands. I love your products and show them off to everyone. #nobullshit #nottacticool
Though i love esee 1095, but i am living in environment that literally surrounded by sea and High humidity all year long, i guess i would add S35VN in my next purchase list
Awesome video and so glad you re-visited the ESEE 3 in S35vn breaking in the first video. Because of this being cleared up and explained better on why it broke in the first video I just purchased an ESEE 3 in S35vn . Great job guys and really looking forward to cutting some $H!t with my new knife!
I appreciate the video, it was very well done. I would have liked to have seen you sharpen the knives to bring the edge back and see the difference in that process. Thanks again for the video and the great products.
@@brian4984 If they release the 4 in S35V that'd be the perfect choice for my wife's emergency kit. It would handle anything she'd likely use it for (I can't imagine her trying to strike a flint with... anything) and she wouldn't have to worry about being so diligent in keeping it corrosion free. Feel free to put me down as a, "Yes PLEASE," I'll stick with the 1095 I'm ordering tonight.
Don't get me wrong, I love Esee and TOPS 1095 knives, but I would love to see them start offering knives in Z-Tuff and Z-Wear steel...both much tougher than CPM-3V.
Good call....but I can tell you...the S35VN holds an incredible edge....I make it a habit to try and never let my knife get dull...so I maintain my 1095 quite a bit...same for S35.
Two questions: How does S35VN do in terms of a tip destruction test? I’ve seen some crazy-impressive tip tests on 1095 ESEE 3 and 4, but nothing in the S35VN yet. Second, do y’all, or anyone you know, offer custom serrations on models that don’t normally come serrated? I’m eyeing an ESEE 4 with the 3D G-10 handles as a work knife, but none of the models have serrations currently.
not even close to the toughness that 1095 is...remember, knives make horrible pry bars. Since the inception of our company we've warrantied our blades for life under any circumstance. I'd wager a guess that more than 80% of ALL WARRANTIES submitted to us are for broken tips.
I see! Well, I definitely don’t intend to do any prying with it, but I always like and respect a tool I don’t have to baby. Thanks for the quick reply!
I’m on the fence on whether I should get a 1095 esee 3 or one in s35vn. I live in middle Merica with lots of hardwoods, but also usually 65 to 100 humidity, I was wondering what you folks recommend
if you use a knife like a knife...either works...the S35 is obviously stainless and has better edge retention..if you use your knife like a battering ram I'd stay with 1095.
That knife has no business being a primary tool for baton tasks. Good testing no doubt Thank you! Keep the s35vn for the E3&E4, 3V for the 5 , 6 and Junglas
That I think is obvious. IF it's only what you had, you would use it for whatever task that needed to be done in any environment. Cmp-3V is great steel but big blades in that steel would bump up the price quite a bit. Would it be worth it? I don't know. I would like to see Junglas in 5160. Tougher than 1095, costs about the same.
@@LXT43 I would pay 300 bucks for an Esse 6 in 3v no problem. I only wish Esse would put a burr on the spine of their knives so I can process fire wood for shavings and even strike a fire steel.
I wish Esee would make more knives with S35VN. I own a Esee 3 but I would love an Esee 5 or 6 in S35VN. 1095 is okayish but will rust if you look at it wrong. In a field knife, I consider corrosion resistance as highly as toughness. 1095 is only slightly tougher than S35VN, but S35VN is a far superior steel in all other aspects. An Esee 5 in S35VN would be literally indestructible! Personally I would like to see a hybrid of the Esee 5 and 6 in S35VN. I don’t like the fact that the Esee 5 doesn’t have a finger choil and I think a 1/4 thick blade is a bit overkill. Ounces count guys. An Esee 5-6 size knife with aggressive jumping, a good finger choil, and a 3/16 blade thickness in S35VN would be the greatest all-around bush knife possible. Just my opinion though.
Gonna have to disagree with you here. Based on our field tests S35vn has great edge retention but it's not as durable as our 1095 when driven really hard. As for corrosion this company was built on the floor of the Amazon Jungle and all the indigenous people know down there is carbon steel. The blades we see down there are used daily in one of the wettest environments on Earth
@@RandallsAdventureESEE th-cam.com/video/QQBTPa1C5LU/w-d-xo.html I can't imagine ever putting a blade through the kind of hell these guys have subjected their S35VN blades to. I'm sure 1095 is fine if you take care of it. I did my time in the jungle with 1st Marine Division and I carried an EK commando bowie in 420c. That's a great field knife. These days I prefer S35VN because its just easier to take care of. Your always welcome to disagree with your customers. I was just making a suggestion.
@@OTG414 easier to take care of is a relative statement. The S35vn has greater edge retention but it is harder to service/sharpen in the field. That’s one aspect we’ve always appreciated in 1095 is the ease of field serviceability. What it boils down to Is how one chooses to use the blade in hand.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE I never had a problem bringing the edge back on S35VN with a pocket ceramic sharpener. I never had to regrind the primary bevel but I imagine that might be tough to do with any steel while in the field. I love 3V and 4V too but it seems to bump the cost up.
the one you have on you when you need it.... one doesn't get sharper than the other....that has more to do with the person sharpening it.... Stainless may get the nod for edge retention and corrosion resistance (IE less likely to rust due to sweat)
I just ordered the Essee PR4 Bushcrafting knife in 1095. I also ordered a regular Essee 4 with the wood colored handle and OD green coated blade! I was torn on wether I should get the S35VN version though, but since I would baton more with this one I went with the stronger old reliable one. But if you broke your S35 would Essee send ya a new one, no questions asked?
Thanks for the hard work you guys put into ESEE knives and for showing all the videos I just recently bought my first ESEE, a 5, last month and I'm about to place an order for a 4 now - just debating getting a JG3 with it or spreading out my purchases. You know what they say, if mama ain't happy... 😦
One broken knife doesn’t say much. It could have been a small flaw or defect. Keep running them through it’s paces. I think it will be awhile before another one breaks like that. 👍🏼👍🏼
I love my ESEE knives. Two x 6's, one x 5, and now a 4 coming to me with micarta scales in S35VN ! I'd love a 6 in stainless. 3V, or this Magnacut I keep hearing about. I don't know enough about metallurgy to be definite about which one, but I trust ESEE to work it out. If they make a stainless 6 I'll buy it! It'll be the first one down here in Australia! P.S I read that Busse's INFI s/steel is indestructible, can ESEE get some of that?!
Great stuff. I know ESSE’s 1095 takes a beating and asks for more. I have a variety of your blades. But S35VN is a nice option for people. I have always liked it on my folders. Thanks for responding to the request of your customers. Does Rowan do your S35VN?
both look like great fixed blade knifes , i do carry a fixed blade for most task at camp , honestly I'm not a axe person , a second blade is with me ,,,a diy machete made from a brush cutting cycle blade that will not brake ..lol. good follow up on your knifes my friends.. billy joe
Bonjour , from FRANCE ! Comme on dit chez nous , "une hirondelle ne fait pas le printemps" , la casse sur le 1er test peut avoir de nombreuses causes , l'acier est un matériau "vivant" qui évolue , qui réagit avec son environnement , son utilisation (bonne ou mauvaise) , sa fabrication , son usinage etc etc , une petite "paille" invisible à l'oeil peut avoir eu cette conséquence de casse , et ESEE est notoirement une entreprise sérieuse qui ne transige pas sur la qualité et sa réaction sur le S35VN en est la preuve , ils assument , mieux ils revendiquent , ESEE est et restera toujours une référence , et ce n'est pas la casse d'1 exemplaire qui m'empêchera de m'en offrir un ! et en back up de mon ESEE5 je suis sur que le ESEE3 s35vn fera le boulot ! On est jamais déçu par un ESEE !
nous apprécions la confiance de nos clients, c'est pourquoi nous avons voulu diffuser cette série de vidéos afin de communiquer des attentes claires à nos clients. Nous apprécions vos commentaires.
with the breakage of the S35vn model, could that be due to the heat treatment? i mean, maybe the S35 steel needs a different type of heat treatment than, say the 1095, or was that taken into account? if so, maybe the way the S35 was heat treated was not the ideal type of heat treatment in order to bring out the overall best in that steel? also, if S35vn doesn't have the toughness of 1095, what about some of the other "super steels"? would they hold up better than the S35vn in the baton test and provide the stainless benefit that the 1095 doesn't have? i wonder how CPM-20CV or Maximet (sp??) would fair?
We have zero concerns on the accuracy of the heat treat and yes, we are aware there are different processes of heat treat for different metals. I cannot speak personally to the options you specified....
I wish ESEE would stop grinding the full flat grind higher than the actual spine; which creates a thin / weak spot/angle at the spine where the handle stock thickness meets the beginning of the blade grind on the spine of the knife.) They need to stop the full flat grind at the spine or just before the spine so the spine stock thickness has a gradual taper from the handle to the tip rather than a quick dip into the blade grind from the handle.. which happens to be right next to weak unneeded jimping dips in the spine that also causes weak spots, especially for smaller knives that don't need it... made in S35VN; which isn't as resilient as 1095. Just my common 2 cents/sense/thoughts. Basically the Plunge line on my ESEE 4 goes higher than the spine, making the spine thinner than it should be in comparison to the handle stock thickness (it's not a gradual taper to the blade tip, it's a drop off into the blade grind), and the plunge line on my ESEE 4 goes straight up into the center and bottom of a jimping dip!! Sounds/looks like a weak spot to me.
Good comparison vid,I’m looking forward to getting my S35vn 👍 We were taught to baton in military survival training, as it was the quickest way to access dry wood.personally tend to not Baton Keep it up guys Stay safe ATB Del 👍🔥🐺
I know this is silly but I just saw you guys made an orange and black knife and I was thinking that y'all should make a halloween edition Junglas or a dagger in orange and black with green scale liners.
I just ordered an Izula to use as a small general urban EDC fixed blade. I was thinking of also getting a larger knife to go with it since I am starting to ruck and do photography again, and I don't know where those hobbies will take me. I cant decide between the Esee 3, 4, and 5 for that purpose. I'd like to be prepared for almost anything if the needs arise but the 5 is significantly heavier than the 4 which could be cumbersome since I would already be carrying a lot of weight. Do you think the 3 and 4 would suffice in the event that I might get into a survival situation and maybe if I was doing any kind of camping? I wouldn't want to end up breaking the knives if I needed to baton or pry something with it. Also, do you think the 3 or 4 would be a significant enough size differences compared to the Izula? I am still relatively new to the knife world, and most of my experience prior is in a retail setting opening boxed with my folders, so this feels like a whole different country within the world of knives.
It's less about the gear and more about skill level... the E5 is very THICK and while it can take a beating..the steep edge geometry means it looses some cutting efficiency. I rarely have a "need" for a knife larger than 4" and MUCH prefer to using a smaller knife.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE with that being said, would you say it's worth having the Esee 3 if I'd already have the Izula or would it be more worthwhile to get the Esee 4 since the Izula already fits in that small knife category.
@@JustFluxz more a matter of personal preference and depends on what other kit you are carrying in support as well. If I had an Izula I might look at the Laser Strike too... it is a personal favorite for a "big knife" for me. Same thickness as the E4, 5" Spear point blade, High Saber grind...that's my "go to" general purpose knife.
PBushcraft Drôme It is all a matter of opinion. I like 1095 more because it is much easier to sharpen in the field. Many people like S35vn because it holds its edge longer.
My 2 Esee’s that I would put my life on.... The PR4 and the CR 2.5.. Perfect combo..!!! They would be better if the handle scales were the same...!! Just sayin.....
One wouldn't go four wheeling in a sports car or enter their jeep in a nascar race so wouldn't it be wise to choose the correct knife steel for the task at hand rather than complain when one breaks a knife using it for a task that it is not suited for?
Sadly, that logic escapes more than you know...I'm OFTEN fielding emails from folks upset that their carbon steel knife has rusted....I wish I was joking.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE It seems that people wish to believe what they wish to believe and don't want to take the time to read and research anything and would rather believe what someone tells them and then get angry when confront with the facts if they differ with their believes. I have learned that it is often better to listen and smile in agreement then to differ with someone. That said I listen to what others have to say, put it in memory and research it later if it's new to me. Sometimes it's good info, but often it's not.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE thanks 🤩 One question please; Firstly im sorry for my english its not so well. I have the esee cr2.5,izula 2, 4, junglas 2. Now my question, when im in the woods i just cant make a decision which tools i take with me 🤣 i love them all but thats too much weight 🙈😂 my actually tools for the woods are the cr2.5 as knecck knife for small tasks, one smal victorinox with saw, the esee 4 as belt knife, the gransförs bruks outdoor axe and a big bow saw. What do you think about it? I love myjunglas 2 but i think the smal axe is the better tool for splitting and chopping 🙈 the junglas 2 is in my bob as one tool option
@@sinkswim1798 there is not "correct" answer and it just depends on the intent of the trip....We shift our load out based on the mission at hand...the ONLY correct answer is to use and enjoy them...and challenge yourself...purposely challenge yourself from time to time as it will force you to improve your skillset.
@@sinkswim1798 The more you get to know us you will find what we focus way more on "Software" (ie skills) over "hardware" tools gadgets gizmos.....the more you know, the less you have to carry.
Great testing guys! Would love to see testing like this with the Junglas for people near saltwater or humid environments. I personally live away from those areas but i hate resharpening often and worrying about rust and forced to keep it oiled up, even with the dry silicone lubricant i use. Thanks for the vid, very well presented information!🤪🔪🔪
We live in the hot/humid South East and have spent a lot of time in the Amazon jungle....not much to test...it will rust. But surface rust isn't a big deal and the more you use it the less it will rust. Any carbon steel knife will rust but carbon steel has been used for years....it just requires a bit of car just like firearms or cast iron in the same environments.
What I want to see in a "knife test" is real world tests. Make the tests fit the tool. A Esee 3 is a utility/camp knife. Cut some rope, feather some sticks, fillet some fish, cut some paracord, cross cut some light limbs for tent and camp use, cut some more rope, prep some fish or meat and tomatos. Let's see how these knives do for the jobs they were designed. This batoning of wood is just unreasonable and doesn't test the edge in a practical manner.
Rob Hicks thanks for the suggestions. In all honesty, the term “real world” is relative. We have been a training company longer than we have been a knife company. Sometimes you have to use what you have and we set out to find the limits of every knife we produce.
Il paraît que le s35v garde le tranchant comme le s30v et est aussi facile à affûter que le 1095...? J'ai le Esee3..... La poignée est trop plate pour du bushcraft ce modèle là me tente bien. Mais pourquoi avez-vous fait une vidéo sur sa casse ? Il y a des spécialistes de ça....
Il y a des différences entre s30 et s35, mais cela a aussi beaucoup à voir avec le traitement thermique .... certaines personnes comme les poignées plates d'autres pas ... maintenant nous avons des options pour les deux. Bien sûr, il y a des experts mais c'est NOTRE lame et peu de gens ont utilisé et testé nos lames autant que nous ... nous voulions que nos clients comprennent les limites que nous avions trouvées et nous voulions que ce message provienne directement de nous. ..personne d'autre
Randall's Adventure / ESEE Merci pour ces réponses claires nettes et très précises. J'attends avec impatience ce nouveau esee3 s35v ainsi que vos nouveaux 4. Pour lez Pyrénées ces 2 modèles sont un must to have. En Europe nous sommes toujours un peu en retard sur vous pour la mise sur le marché. Nous venons juste d'avoir sur le marché des spyderco tenacious lightweight. Continuez comme ça que ce soit dans vos couteaux et vos vidéos. Bb guys
@@pedro3655 nous apprécions le soutien de nos amis de l'autre côté de l'étang! Merci d'avoir refait notre marque et de nous avoir transportés dans vos aventures.
The one and only stainless steel I would chose for a fixed blade knife, specially when it is full flat grind is S20CV. S35VN should only be on folders! Your 1095 rocks. No reason to change it, unless you want to upgrade to 3V. Just my humble opinion! Thanks for the video.
not at all...we use all kinds of blades from ours and our favorite makers like James Gibson, Cohutta knives, LTWK, and Swiss Army knives....we use all kinds.
3v...literally the best of both worlds! 🤞🏼
we are getting a lot of votes for 3V....and we are listening.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE I have one knife in 3V. it gets my vote as well. I've used an LT Wright GNS 3v in saber grind as hard as any of my other knives and it hasn't failed yet. Holds an edge really well too.
@@pinkiewerewolf I have an LTWK in 3v and a used to have a Survive GSO in 3V as well...both great blades...
@@RandallsAdventureESEE use 3V please ! an esse-5 & 6 would be great in CPM-3V
i personally think s35vn is great for the esee3 ... use 3v for the bigger blades not the esee 3
I have every ESEE except the ESEE 5 and when I got the S35VN ESEE 4 I was just satisfied with the performance. As I have collected knives and put them through hard use I’ve found 1095 to be the best non stainless and CPM154 to be the best well rounded powdered metal stainless.
I’ve had my 3 for almost a year now so I’ve gotten to know the pros and cons of the knife .Pros : The S35vn has excellent edge retention and is relatively easy to sharpen in the field . I was able to completely process two white tails before needing to touch up the edge . The steel is highly corrosion resistant I’m in or around saltwater everyday and this knife hasn’t shown even a spot of rust .Cons : The g10 scales make the knife way too handle heavy . I replaced them with standard linen scales and it restored the balance . Lastly the edge microchips under lateral stresses like scraping fiberglass and other hard materials . Even though this knife isn’t perfect it’s my edc and dedicated skinning knife it’s worth every penny .
Its nice to see a company that reads and responds to their youtube comments, another reason why i love esee
we try to stay on top of them....but they are coming in like machine gun fire across all social media platforms!! LoL....we miss a few here or there but not many.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE i really appreciate the response and ill bet theyre rolling in especially fast with all the talk of s35vn now
@@C0ochieMeat with over 90k followers on IG and nearly 60k on FB...PLUS DMs....it's got me hopping!
Good demo, most people appreciate it I'm sure. We all know there will be those that will purposefully destroy stuff just to get the views. As others have said, it is most excellent to have such open communication with a company on the how and why when a product fails... whatever the reason. There are products out there that are not worth a fraction the asking price and the company ignores consumer feedback completely. It is a crowded market these days and this type of open communication really shines through to keep ESEE at the front.
thank you...we do our best to make sure we stay in the trenches with our people...
Love the honesty. I picked up the S35VN ESEE 4 for smaller tasks, not trying to baton thick logs. I keep an axe/hatchet or the ESEE 6 1095 for that. Though 3V would be great. Or now Magnacut for the ESEE 4. Hope to see new options soon, this video is 4 years old!
I just ordered the Esse 4 in s35vn.
Cant wait this will be my 1st Esse knife.
We can't thank you enough for the support!
@@RandallsAdventureESEE I just received it. Wow its hands down my favorite knife now. I was a little worried that the Esse 4 handle would be too small for my big hands says some other reviews but Man it fits in my hand like a glove. The hunk of S35vn is fantastic. I would say Y'all should come out with a complete s35 lineup offer the classic amazing 1095 and now this s35 in all models.
Thanks again.
Hi guys, i appreciate your 1095, edge retention is perfect, and your knives are indestructible. Keep it up !!
will do! Thank you!
Really, thank you for taking the time to do this test,,, I benefited much, and so will others !!!
glad to hear it and glad it worked out for you..
I just got my 3 in the s35vn today! #26!!! It is beautiful, surgically sharp, feels so good in the hand! Very excited To see this video gentlemen thank you, glad it held up and it reinforced my purchase decision! Thank you for revisiting the test!!!
Shelly Carr awesome. Thank you and I hope it serves you well.
Hey fellas, its me again. lol
Patrick, you summed it up well. As I stated in the last video, I love my ESEE 6's blade shape and I've never had a performance issue with it. I'd just love one in stainless because it is the perfect blade length and shape for doing almost any realistic knife work in the field, camp, or kitchen.
If ESEE never makes the 6 in anything but 1095, I'll still be digging my knife.
Thanks for all you do!
we appreciate the feedback...
Seeing that they posted a broken knife makes me want to buy one from them. Truly a great American company.
just doing our best to be completely transparent.
I just received an Izula 2 from the Knife Connection ! Your products are excellent, American designed & manufactured tools ! Thanks !!
Glad to hear you are pleased....enjoy that knife..it's a great blade...and I named my Lab after the Izula! Izula May Adams is my 5.5yr old chocolate Lab!
Knives for knife tasks is the answer to any questions. I have two 1095 E4's and one in stainless steel all perform admirably in general medium use. The stainless 4 is my canoe/throw in a pack and forget till I need it knife because of it's resistance to corrosion. Stainless will always be harder and more brittle than the more forgiving 1095hc but will maintain a surgical edge for longer in fine tasks. I pick the knife that suits the activities I'm likely to do. Survival situation or a knife longer than 4"?1095 and a field sharpening kit all the way! Good drills and skills both and excellent knives. Still love the new handles by the way.
you are speaking the truth....glad to hear you like the 3D scales.
I think it's great yall revisited the testing. Also glad yall broke the knife first, realistically using a thin knife to baton with is a worse case scenario but we all know someone will do it just because and then cry about it.
thanks Gregg...we wanted to find the limitations and communicate those to our customers BEFORE they had too....this video is in response to MANY questions that the first video raised.
Awesome review. I just purchased, my first, Esee 3 all black, with the 3D g10. Can't wait to put it through it's paces. I've been an Izula fan for years. Always wanted a 3. Nice work, gentlemen.
kjnronin we hope you are pleased with it! Thank you!
Just my cent's worth: the nature of the work informs the selection of the tool one should use. Under normal circumstances that makes good sense. There are times, however, where one might not have quite the number of tools to choose from in order to get work done. So, the obvious answer is that of Lord Baden Powell, "Be prepared!" When applied to wilderness adventuring of some sort, it is important to remember this. So, one should prepare for unusual situations - being out in the wild and the biggest cutting tool you have is a 3 inch bladed knife seems somewhat unprepared. A 3" blade is fine for fine work, food prep, carving, cordage, minor delimbing, etc. When it gets to the heavy stuff (as in the video) a more robust tool is required (in the case in point, an ESEE 5 would have been much more effective, and probably would not suffer harm). Even heavier lumber might require a proper splitting axe/maul, and/or using steel wedges. Alternatively, use other sources of wood more fit for purpose. A person out in the wild carrying everything on his/her back is highly unlikely to need to split large rounds, or gnarled logs. Improbable scenarios are fine for TH-cam videos and accumulating "likes", but I'm not convinced of the value of some of the advice given ( current persons excepted - the video was very fair and balanced). However, I admit to be being somewhat "anti-batoning" , except as an extreme emergency, where speed is of the essence, but such occasions tend to be rare. It is incredible to see what can be accomplished with some sturdy wedges (wood), and even more with metal ones, rather than bashing one's knife through a log unnecessarily. Thanks for the well-made video.
your approach is very similar to ours...just bc you CAN doesn't mean you should.... in a real life survival situation I'm doing everything I can to protect my blade, and every other resource I have, protect it and use it in a way the keeps it serviceable longer.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE Thank you for that reply. When I was younger I used to make knives. One irate customer brought a knife I'd made back to me with about 1/4' broken at the tip. I was livid, but I asked how it had happened? He was hurling the large blade at an oak tree! I reground the blade for him and promptly told him my guarantee had now expired and that I never wanted to see him again. I have no respect for people like that.
If all I have is a small knife like this in a survival situation, I would be carving wedges to baton rather than batoning with my knife, be it 1095 or S35VN. It makes no sense to baton if that is the only cutting implement that I have in such a situation. Not trying to be smart but I would rather treat my knife with care if that is the only one I have.
we agree 110% on this statement....well said.
Randall's Adventure / ESEE Thanks for revisiting this test. I am looking out for an Esee 3 with S35VN although I very much love mine in 1095.
@@andyhooutdoors Honestly...we beat on this knife WAY more than the video showed...but we didn't really want to do a "torture test"....we wanted real world tasks more than anything and then to push the envelop a bit...the photos at the end of this video show the knives side by side at the conclusion of the test.....both were new when we started....the S35vn knife looked UNTOUCHED....and was still SUPER SHARP! I was impressed!
Randall's Adventure / ESEE I don’t have much experience with S35VN other than a Firecraft FC3.5 from Whiteriver knives and a couple of Sebenza and Hinderer. Most of the outdoors knives I have are mainly high carbon steels, even though I am in the tropical rainforest. This makes me very very curious to try the S35VN that you guys put out. Big thanks for making this happen!
@@andyhooutdoors I really like this and steel and with it hardens to 60HRC means this thing REALLY holds and edge well..
I retired my 1095 ESEE-3 that was attached to my lifejacket and used for multi-week backcountry canoe trips last year. I replaced it with a Spyderco Enuff in H1. Great little rescue blade but a 2" serrated warncliff isn't very versatile as a general outdoors knife and necessitated a belt knife be brought in the canoe barrel. I'm happy to have the option of replacing the ESEE-3 with the same model in a stainless version. I will probably try to swap the contoured scales of the new one with the original's flat orange G10 slabs to keep it compact while attached to my vest. In any event this is just what I was waiting for the last 2 years. I figured the ESEE-3 would eventually be issued in 440SS like the model 4 was. That ESEE went to S35vn for the model-3 is a super bonus! Now, I just have to wait for a Canadian distributor to get their hands on this new stock.....Hoping that happens before the ice melts!
Thanks for doing a follow up on the S35VN ESEE 3 showing REASONABLE use and it's amazing edge retention! The rope cut test showed all that needs to be said about the abilities of the CPM stainless steel. Thank you
Knife Video Channel the photos at the end are from the actual test too. Taken at the conclusion of all the testing. You can see the use on the 1095 and the S35vn is spotless and still razor sharp.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE Believe it or not, Out of all the knives previewed at Shot , The ESEE 3 S35VN was my biggest surprise! Added bonus the 3D contoured scales for not much more over 1095/Flat scaled version. I ordered one from Knifeworks as soon as available!
Awesome you guys listened to your customer base and also stepping outside your steel comfort zone. Nicely done
@@knifevideochannel4657 we are warming up to the process...we just want people to know where we stand.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE For Sure! I hope the rollout goes well and people "use" common sense when using the S35VN. I know you guys don't want a bunch of broken blades for warranty. I'm hoping for the Izula 2 in S35VN down the road!
Recently bought my 3rd esee 3! Was looking at getting this model but I just can’t get away from the classic esee 3. The 2 I purchased before have been going on strong for 4 years now and as long as you oil them up (I prefer tuff cloth) they are very rust resistant with it.
I just ordered the Esee s35vn for food prep, camp activities AND the Junglas 10.5 inch in 1095 for everything else. Decided to buy murican made and the warranty convinced me over other brands.
We appreciate your trust and your business. Enjoy!
Appreciate your honesty about what's a reasonable expectation from any steel. It's always a give and take relationship when balancing desired qualities.
that was the whole intent...glad to hear it landed the way we intended.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE It definitely came across in the right way. I'm still trying to wrap my head around why 1095 is perceived as tougher when both it and S35VN test in that 10ft/lbs range.
I've purchased 3 esee knives love the 1095 5 minutes on a strop with some compound they are always brought back to a razor's edge you really gotta jack with that s35vn to get it back to crazy sharp although it does last long way harder to sharpen but I do like the idea of a corrosion resistant stainless good work
Gabriel Petri it’s a good option and with the right tools you can bring a S35vn back pretty quick too.
S35VN works on every strop and whetstone, its not that hard to sharpen.
But It performs different if you use a normal whetstone compared to a CBN or Diamond stone.
The Diamond and CBN stones make S35VN freakishly and stupidly sharp, while normal stones struggle.
Arkansas stones are a different class for me they dont belong in normal but also not in high class, they suffer while sharpening S35VN and dont produce a nice edge.
The first time I tried Sharpening S35VN I went with my smexy Arkansas, no lie I felt like I was Sharpening the stone instead of tha knife.
It didn't take long and S35VN ate a recurve in the Arkansas, I normal go with Diamonds when sharpening a PM steel.
Alumina stones also dont perform perfectly on S35VN but get the job done.
I love carbon steel. But i think I'm gonna get one of these 3's in s35vn for whitetail's this next deer season. It seems like the perfect size and steel combo for field dressing, skinning, quartering, etc.
I think you will be VERY pleased with the S35vn in the E3 or the Xancudo fixed!
Great video, thank you guys I just order an esee 3 s35vn last night ,for my collection of esee knives 4,5,6 and the esee kabar bk14
Most any knife can be sharpened to a really sharp edge, but eventually any steel will get dull. I have several knives in 1095. I can get them sharp but they don’t stay sharp as long as the ones I have in S30V. However, once the 1095 gets dull, I can bring the edge back in the field pretty quick with diamond stones or even a ceramic rod (if the edge isn’t too dull). With the stainless, I have to take the knife back home and use my Baldor buffer to get the edge back to where it was. With the 1095 carbon, I don’t think it’s the metallurgy or the heat treatment that’s the problem. I think the steel just gets corroded pretty quickly when it’s around my sweaty self. Yes I put oil on the blade but rust does happen. With the stainless, my knives stay sharp until I dull the edge cutting stuff, not just sitting in the sheath rusting.
Andy Black exactly our thoughts.
I love ESSE knives, they have the best warranty in the business, just read one of their boxes. I agree with these guys, use the right tool for the job, it's just common sense.
common sense = increasingly less common ! take care!
The key word is Ductility . The ability for a steel to flex without breaking and return to its' original shape. IMO - properly heat treated 1095 excels in ductility.
Thanks for this video.
Yeah I have to agree. Having a stainless one is OK, but 3V or M4 as an option would be incredible
CPM-3V in a 5”-6” model would be awesome.
There was a time I took my 6 out and thought it was a skill set to baton down a log 5&1/2” around and got wedged. I seen the bends the 1095 took and recovered from and new Esse was co to stick with.
Glad it worked out for you...our 1095 and differential heat treat can take a beating..
I just ordered my Esee 3 1095 with the 3D handles, the new grips look awesome! I’ve had my laser strike for over 8 years and it’s been used and abused and has held up great!
thanks for the honesty guys. still the best warranty out there and you back up what you claim. you handle 1095 better than most anybody. i’ve turned many friends and family on to esee and they love them. good stuff. 👍🏼
people telling their friends about us is how this company was built and we continue to appreciate and value that advertising over all other forms!
If you guys want to go with cpm s35vn just Make it a bit softer about 58 Hrc (like Chris Reeve Professional Soldier knife) the knife won't loose a lot of its edge retention ability but will increase its impact resistance and toughness.
58 is below what CPM advises for this steel....and we don't really want to give up the edge retention....if folks that buy it use it as a knife and not a battering ram there would NEVER be an issue. We wanted to maximize edge retention and did so by sticking the the manufactures guidelines on HRC
i am very very happy about this development!
Maybe in the furute you guys can look at some 3V wich is just super tougth and has simmerlar edge retention to s35vn :D
but it is more expensive, i think s35vn is just Fine at 60! I dont think many people can reasonably break a >4 inch s35vn blade
I've had this S35Vnknife since it came out. It sounds "tinny" if you tap on it. I've never had a blade display that effect. It's quite strange. Mine does not hold an edge worth a damn. Could it be these fine fellows obtained a defective batch of steel? Bad heat treat which made it too brittle? My other knives with S35VN, in other brands, have a better edge retention.
As far as it breaking - you can abuse even an anvil enough and it will break.
it's great that you guys listen to your customers. mucho props! i'll stick with 1095 for my 3, though. it serves it's purposes for me. and now that i've etched and played with some "patina" methods, i no longer worry about it going "red". i still haven't found a need to buy any other knives/brands. I love your products and show them off to everyone. #nobullshit #nottacticool
we appreciate the feedback and we are stoked to have more offerings for our customers....more on the way...
Though i love esee 1095, but i am living in environment that literally surrounded by sea and High humidity all year long, i guess i would add S35VN in my next purchase list
Love this company… 🇺🇸
Awesome video and so glad you re-visited the ESEE 3 in S35vn breaking in the first video. Because of this being cleared up and explained better on why it broke in the first video I just purchased an ESEE 3 in S35vn . Great job guys and really looking forward to cutting some $H!t with my new knife!
Got an Esee 6 in 1095 and my new Izula in s35vn.
Excellent comparison. Thanks for doing that.
absolutely...more coming.
I appreciate the video, it was very well done. I would have liked to have seen you sharpen the knives to bring the edge back and see the difference in that process. Thanks again for the video and the great products.
Glad you got something out of it! The S35vn is much harder for sure.....but man it holds a phenomenal edge.
I'm still sold on the S35 although I've got two Esee 1095 models, coated and coated.
I really like the S35vn and hope to expand this line into other models.....if you use is as a KNIFE...it's very impressive.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE Can't wait for the 4!
@@brian4984 If they release the 4 in S35V that'd be the perfect choice for my wife's emergency kit. It would handle anything she'd likely use it for (I can't imagine her trying to strike a flint with... anything) and she wouldn't have to worry about being so diligent in keeping it corrosion free. Feel free to put me down as a, "Yes PLEASE," I'll stick with the 1095 I'm ordering tonight.
Don't get me wrong, I love Esee and TOPS 1095 knives, but I would love to see them start offering knives in Z-Tuff and Z-Wear steel...both much tougher than CPM-3V.
I love my Esee knives.
Glad to hear it! Thank you
Great test I've always been a 1095. Fan but I am not good at sharpen. Thanks!!
Nice comparison. You should have included a comparison on resharpening each knife!!!
Good call....but I can tell you...the S35VN holds an incredible edge....I make it a habit to try and never let my knife get dull...so I maintain my 1095 quite a bit...same for S35.
Two questions:
How does S35VN do in terms of a tip destruction test? I’ve seen some crazy-impressive tip tests on 1095 ESEE 3 and 4, but nothing in the S35VN yet.
Second, do y’all, or anyone you know, offer custom serrations on models that don’t normally come serrated? I’m eyeing an ESEE 4 with the 3D G-10 handles as a work knife, but none of the models have serrations currently.
not even close to the toughness that 1095 is...remember, knives make horrible pry bars. Since the inception of our company we've warrantied our blades for life under any circumstance. I'd wager a guess that more than 80% of ALL WARRANTIES submitted to us are for broken tips.
I see! Well, I definitely don’t intend to do any prying with it, but I always like and respect a tool I don’t have to baby. Thanks for the quick reply!
I’m on the fence on whether I should get a 1095 esee 3 or one in s35vn. I live in middle Merica with lots of hardwoods, but also usually 65 to 100 humidity, I was wondering what you folks recommend
if you use a knife like a knife...either works...the S35 is obviously stainless and has better edge retention..if you use your knife like a battering ram I'd stay with 1095.
Patrick. Wool parka? Where? Love my ESEE's by the way.
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That knife has no business being a primary tool for baton tasks. Good testing no doubt Thank you! Keep the s35vn for the E3&E4, 3V for the 5 , 6 and Junglas
That I think is obvious. IF it's only what you had, you would use it for whatever task that needed to be done in any environment. Cmp-3V is great steel but big blades in that steel would bump up the price quite a bit. Would it be worth it? I don't know. I would like to see Junglas in 5160. Tougher than 1095, costs about the same.
@@LXT43 I would pay 300 bucks for an Esse 6 in 3v no problem. I only wish Esse would put a burr on the spine of their knives so I can process fire wood for shavings and even strike a fire steel.
Nice review straight to the point
I wish Esee would make more knives with S35VN. I own a Esee 3 but I would love an Esee 5 or 6 in S35VN. 1095 is okayish but will rust if you look at it wrong. In a field knife, I consider corrosion resistance as highly as toughness. 1095 is only slightly tougher than S35VN, but S35VN is a far superior steel in all other aspects. An Esee 5 in S35VN would be literally indestructible! Personally I would like to see a hybrid of the Esee 5 and 6 in S35VN. I don’t like the fact that the Esee 5 doesn’t have a finger choil and I think a 1/4 thick blade is a bit overkill. Ounces count guys. An Esee 5-6 size knife with aggressive jumping, a good finger choil, and a 3/16 blade thickness in S35VN would be the greatest all-around bush knife possible. Just my opinion though.
Gonna have to disagree with you here. Based on our field tests S35vn has great edge retention but it's not as durable as our 1095 when driven really hard. As for corrosion this company was built on the floor of the Amazon Jungle and all the indigenous people know down there is carbon steel. The blades we see down there are used daily in one of the wettest environments on Earth
@@RandallsAdventureESEE
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I can't imagine ever putting a blade through the kind of hell these guys have subjected their S35VN blades to.
I'm sure 1095 is fine if you take care of it. I did my time in the jungle with 1st Marine Division and I carried an EK commando bowie in 420c. That's a great field knife. These days I prefer S35VN because its just easier to take care of. Your always welcome to disagree with your customers. I was just making a suggestion.
@@OTG414 easier to take care of is a relative statement. The S35vn has greater edge retention but it is harder to service/sharpen in the field. That’s one aspect we’ve always appreciated in 1095 is the ease of field serviceability. What it boils down to Is how one chooses to use the blade in hand.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE I never had a problem bringing the edge back on S35VN with a pocket ceramic sharpener. I never had to regrind the primary bevel but I imagine that might be tough to do with any steel while in the field. I love 3V and 4V too but it seems to bump the cost up.
Which one is superior in defensive applications? Can one become sharper or slicier?
the one you have on you when you need it.... one doesn't get sharper than the other....that has more to do with the person sharpening it.... Stainless may get the nod for edge retention and corrosion resistance (IE less likely to rust due to sweat)
Esee 3 is my all time favorite knife. You can brake as many s35vn as you want I will buy it as soon as I can. :)
El Bundy in all honesty it a great knife when used as a knife.
I just ordered the Essee PR4 Bushcrafting knife in 1095. I also ordered a regular Essee 4 with the wood colored handle and OD green coated blade! I was torn on wether I should get the S35VN version though, but since I would baton more with this one I went with the stronger old reliable one. But if you broke your S35 would Essee send ya a new one, no questions asked?
You can consider BECUT steel for future use if 35vn proves not suitable...
Thanks for the hard work you guys put into ESEE knives and for showing all the videos
I just recently bought my first ESEE, a 5, last month and I'm about to place an order for a 4 now - just debating getting a JG3 with it or spreading out my purchases. You know what they say, if mama ain't happy... 😦
Crusty_ Otter we know that phrase all to well.
One broken knife doesn’t say much. It could have been a small flaw or defect. Keep running them through it’s paces. I think it will be awhile before another one breaks like that. 👍🏼👍🏼
Heeman5 oh we will! Thank you
Randall's Adventure / ESEE 👍🏼 I love your products, designs and your warranties. Can’t go wrong with an Esee!
I love my ESEE knives. Two x 6's, one x 5, and now a 4 coming to me with micarta scales in S35VN !
I'd love a 6 in stainless. 3V, or this Magnacut I keep hearing about. I don't know enough about metallurgy to be definite about which one, but I trust ESEE to work it out. If they make a stainless 6 I'll buy it!
It'll be the first one down here in Australia!
P.S I read that Busse's INFI s/steel is indestructible, can ESEE get some of that?!
What about the ESSE 4 in M390
shadowdance4666 like we said In the video. Lots of options to look at.
Randall's Adventure / ESEE just planting a seed
This is an old video but trying to decide what to pair with Esee 6 for camping and deer hunting... Esee 3 s35, Ashley game knife, or other. Help!
hard to answer as it is a personal preference. The AGK would be a great choice as would a CR2.5. Those would be my choices.
Randall's Adventure / ESEE
Thanks for the reply! What a great company... I was thinking of a competitor knife too but I am on team Esee!!!
@@chopperh4090 tons of great knife companies out there....we appreciate your support!
Yall are doing great vids!! Keep it up
Shane miller thank you. We are just a couple of hicks from the sticks.
Hi, a newbie question, what does the sand in the bucket do to the knife? Is it to dull or to sharpen it? Never seen this until now.
Sand is really tough on a blade. Quick and easy way to dull a blade.
Great stuff. I know ESSE’s 1095 takes a beating and asks for more. I have a variety of your blades. But S35VN is a nice option for people. I have always liked it on my folders. Thanks for responding to the request of your customers. Does Rowan do your S35VN?
Rowen does everything but heat treat....send it out...then back for final assembly and inspection.
I'm wanting to know if there is any chance of the zancudo folder being made with sk5? I have two Avispas in this steel and love it.
That would be a question for Blue Ridge Knife company...We designed the Zancudo and Avispa folders for them. They manufacture them.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE Thank you for the reply ill ask them then.
I'd love to see more folders
US TOO!!
What's with the knife in the sand? To dull it some?
C willa yep. Silica sand (beach sand) can do a number on an edge.
both look like great fixed blade knifes , i do carry a fixed blade for most task at camp , honestly I'm not a axe person , a second blade is with me ,,,a diy machete made from a brush cutting cycle blade that will not brake ..lol.
good follow up on your knifes my friends..
billy joe
Bonjour , from FRANCE ! Comme on dit chez nous , "une hirondelle ne fait pas le printemps" , la casse sur le 1er test peut avoir de nombreuses causes , l'acier est un matériau "vivant" qui évolue , qui réagit avec son environnement , son utilisation (bonne ou mauvaise) , sa fabrication , son usinage etc etc , une petite "paille" invisible à l'oeil peut avoir eu cette conséquence de casse , et ESEE est notoirement une entreprise sérieuse qui ne transige pas sur la qualité et sa réaction sur le S35VN en est la preuve , ils assument , mieux ils revendiquent , ESEE est et restera toujours une référence , et ce n'est pas la casse d'1 exemplaire qui m'empêchera de m'en offrir un ! et en back up de mon ESEE5 je suis sur que le ESEE3 s35vn fera le boulot ! On est jamais déçu par un ESEE !
nous apprécions la confiance de nos clients, c'est pourquoi nous avons voulu diffuser cette série de vidéos afin de communiquer des attentes claires à nos clients. Nous apprécions vos commentaires.
with the breakage of the S35vn model, could that be due to the heat treatment? i mean, maybe the S35 steel needs a different type of heat treatment than, say the 1095, or was that taken into account? if so, maybe the way the S35 was heat treated was not the ideal type of heat treatment in order to bring out the overall best in that steel? also, if S35vn doesn't have the toughness of 1095, what about some of the other "super steels"? would they hold up better than the S35vn in the baton test and provide the stainless benefit that the 1095 doesn't have? i wonder how CPM-20CV or Maximet (sp??) would fair?
We have zero concerns on the accuracy of the heat treat and yes, we are aware there are different processes of heat treat for different metals. I cannot speak personally to the options you specified....
why dont we tried 420hc ??
I wish ESEE would stop grinding the full flat grind higher than the actual spine; which creates a thin / weak spot/angle at the spine where the handle stock thickness meets the beginning of the blade grind on the spine of the knife.) They need to stop the full flat grind at the spine or just before the spine so the spine stock thickness has a gradual taper from the handle to the tip rather than a quick dip into the blade grind from the handle.. which happens to be right next to weak unneeded jimping dips in the spine that also causes weak spots, especially for smaller knives that don't need it... made in S35VN; which isn't as resilient as 1095. Just my common 2 cents/sense/thoughts.
Basically the Plunge line on my ESEE 4 goes higher than the spine, making the spine thinner than it should be in comparison to the handle stock thickness (it's not a gradual taper to the blade tip, it's a drop off into the blade grind), and the plunge line on my ESEE 4 goes straight up into the center and bottom of a jimping dip!! Sounds/looks like a weak spot to me.
We don't see many break in that area and we like the cutting efficiency of the full flat.
Why did they do the sand bucket?
jack thompson the sand can dull a blade quick. Kind of like hair on a game animal.
Good video guy’s.
hopefully you got a little out of it....thank you.
Good comparison vid,I’m looking forward to getting my S35vn 👍
We were taught to baton in military survival training, as it was the quickest way to access dry wood.personally tend to not Baton
Keep it up guys
Stay safe ATB Del 👍🔥🐺
same to you Del! We appreciate it!
I know this is silly but I just saw you guys made an orange and black knife and I was thinking that y'all should make a halloween edition Junglas or a dagger in orange and black with green scale liners.
Thanks for the suggestion....you should google our venom green Junglas....it may strike your fancy.
I just ordered an Izula to use as a small general urban EDC fixed blade. I was thinking of also getting a larger knife to go with it since I am starting to ruck and do photography again, and I don't know where those hobbies will take me. I cant decide between the Esee 3, 4, and 5 for that purpose. I'd like to be prepared for almost anything if the needs arise but the 5 is significantly heavier than the 4 which could be cumbersome since I would already be carrying a lot of weight. Do you think the 3 and 4 would suffice in the event that I might get into a survival situation and maybe if I was doing any kind of camping? I wouldn't want to end up breaking the knives if I needed to baton or pry something with it. Also, do you think the 3 or 4 would be a significant enough size differences compared to the Izula? I am still relatively new to the knife world, and most of my experience prior is in a retail setting opening boxed with my folders, so this feels like a whole different country within the world of knives.
It's less about the gear and more about skill level... the E5 is very THICK and while it can take a beating..the steep edge geometry means it looses some cutting efficiency. I rarely have a "need" for a knife larger than 4" and MUCH prefer to using a smaller knife.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE with that being said, would you say it's worth having the Esee 3 if I'd already have the Izula or would it be more worthwhile to get the Esee 4 since the Izula already fits in that small knife category.
@@JustFluxz more a matter of personal preference and depends on what other kit you are carrying in support as well. If I had an Izula I might look at the Laser Strike too... it is a personal favorite for a "big knife" for me. Same thickness as the E4, 5" Spear point blade, High Saber grind...that's my "go to" general purpose knife.
Laser strike in stainless please...
Laser Strike with new 3D scales please. I'm personally fine with 1095.
Is is safe to use esee 1095 coated for food prep?
Francisco Ibarra according to the FDA no coated knife is food safe. But that’s never stopped us.
Randall's Adventure / ESEE thanks!!!!
Bonjour So which one is the best steel ?
PBushcraft Drôme It is all a matter of opinion. I like 1095 more because it is much easier to sharpen in the field. Many people like S35vn because it holds its edge longer.
Ok Merci 😉👍
Please make the 4 hm in s35vn. I would buy instantly
My 2 Esee’s that I would put my life on.... The PR4 and the CR 2.5.. Perfect combo..!!! They would be better if the handle scales were the same...!! Just sayin.....
One wouldn't go four wheeling in a sports car or enter their jeep in a nascar race so wouldn't it be wise to choose the correct knife steel for the task at hand rather than complain when one breaks a knife using it for a task that it is not suited for?
Sadly, that logic escapes more than you know...I'm OFTEN fielding emails from folks upset that their carbon steel knife has rusted....I wish I was joking.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE It seems that people wish to believe what they wish to believe and don't want to take the time to read and research anything and would rather believe what someone tells them and then get angry when confront with the facts if they differ with their believes. I have learned that it is often better to listen and smile in agreement then to differ with someone. That said I listen to what others have to say, put it in memory and research it later if it's new to me. Sometimes it's good info, but often it's not.
69 baby! Love ya guys, 3v or elmax would be awesome too!
1095 for the win. I appreciate 3v's properties, but not for a true situation.
No Brasil o pessoal usa pra cortar prego
I love esee knives 🧔
back at'cha!!
@@RandallsAdventureESEE thanks 🤩
One question please;
Firstly im sorry for my english its not so well.
I have the esee cr2.5,izula 2, 4, junglas 2.
Now my question, when im in the woods i just cant make a decision which tools i take with me 🤣 i love them all but thats too much weight 🙈😂 my actually tools for the woods are the cr2.5 as knecck knife for small tasks, one smal victorinox with saw, the esee 4 as belt knife, the gransförs bruks outdoor axe and a big bow saw. What do you think about it? I love myjunglas 2 but i think the smal axe is the better tool for splitting and chopping 🙈 the junglas 2 is in my bob as one tool option
@@sinkswim1798 there is not "correct" answer and it just depends on the intent of the trip....We shift our load out based on the mission at hand...the ONLY correct answer is to use and enjoy them...and challenge yourself...purposely challenge yourself from time to time as it will force you to improve your skillset.
@@RandallsAdventureESEE thank you ! Good answer and i think thats should be my target, challenging myself and improve the skills ! Thank you very much
@@sinkswim1798 The more you get to know us you will find what we focus way more on "Software" (ie skills) over "hardware" tools gadgets gizmos.....the more you know, the less you have to carry.
I woulda been fine with an upgrade just to good ol A2 lol
1095 for me ❕👍💯🇺🇸
Great testing guys! Would love to see testing like this with the Junglas for people near saltwater or humid environments. I personally live away from those areas but i hate resharpening often and worrying about rust and forced to keep it oiled up, even with the dry silicone lubricant i use. Thanks for the vid, very well presented information!🤪🔪🔪
We live in the hot/humid South East and have spent a lot of time in the Amazon jungle....not much to test...it will rust. But surface rust isn't a big deal and the more you use it the less it will rust. Any carbon steel knife will rust but carbon steel has been used for years....it just requires a bit of car just like firearms or cast iron in the same environments.
cpm 3v is just superior for this type of knives.
no knife is unbreakable, so if you did, would ESEE replace it? :0)
If it’s got our name on it.... we will replace it.
I'll stay with my 1095 jg5, easier to touch up in the field.
that is true....however this S35vn knife is really holding an edge very well.
What I want to see in a "knife test" is real world tests. Make the tests fit the tool. A Esee 3 is a utility/camp knife. Cut some rope, feather some sticks, fillet some fish, cut some paracord, cross cut some light limbs for tent and camp use, cut some more rope, prep some fish or meat and tomatos. Let's see how these knives do for the jobs they were designed. This batoning of wood is just unreasonable and doesn't test the edge in a practical manner.
Rob Hicks thanks for the suggestions. In all honesty, the term “real world” is relative. We have been a training company longer than we have been a knife company. Sometimes you have to use what you have and we set out to find the limits of every knife we produce.
I want a ESEE in 80CRV2…
Il paraît que le s35v garde le tranchant comme le s30v et est aussi facile à affûter que le 1095...?
J'ai le Esee3..... La poignée est trop plate pour du bushcraft ce modèle là me tente bien.
Mais pourquoi avez-vous fait une vidéo sur sa casse ? Il y a des spécialistes de ça....
Il y a des différences entre s30 et s35, mais cela a aussi beaucoup à voir avec le traitement thermique ....
certaines personnes comme les poignées plates d'autres pas ... maintenant nous avons des options pour les deux.
Bien sûr, il y a des experts mais c'est NOTRE lame et peu de gens ont utilisé et testé nos lames autant que nous ... nous voulions que nos clients comprennent les limites que nous avions trouvées et nous voulions que ce message provienne directement de nous. ..personne d'autre
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Merci pour ces réponses claires nettes et très précises.
J'attends avec impatience ce nouveau esee3 s35v ainsi que vos nouveaux 4. Pour lez Pyrénées ces 2 modèles sont un must to have. En Europe nous sommes toujours un peu en retard sur vous pour la mise sur le marché.
Nous venons juste d'avoir sur le marché des spyderco tenacious lightweight.
Continuez comme ça que ce soit dans vos couteaux et vos vidéos.
Bb guys
@@pedro3655 nous apprécions le soutien de nos amis de l'autre côté de l'étang! Merci d'avoir refait notre marque et de nous avoir transportés dans vos aventures.
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The one and only stainless steel I would chose for a fixed blade knife, specially when it is full flat grind is S20CV.
S35VN should only be on folders! Your 1095 rocks. No reason to change it, unless you want to upgrade to 3V. Just my humble opinion! Thanks for the video.
I wonder what is your favorite knives guys. Are ghey all esee?
not at all...we use all kinds of blades from ours and our favorite makers like James Gibson, Cohutta knives, LTWK, and Swiss Army knives....we use all kinds.
No surprise that it broke.
Abusing a knife and using it in place of a hatchet or camp axe.
But esees have the reputation to be able to hande this. Even if its not recomended.