@@martimxavier9520 he composes very little… it’s usually Lars and James Hetfield that do most of the thinking in Metallica In Megadeth it’s mostly Dave Mustaine but his band mates contribute as well like Marty Friedman and Chris Poland … but overall I would say Dave is the brains behind Megadeth. He’s also my 3rd all time favorite guitarist and so I might be biased towards him compared to Kirk lol
Yeah I agree Dave is a really good player but I think Kirk in his prime made some really awesome and creative solos that fit the song like the blackened and wherever I may roam solos
Both are great guitarists. Both of their styles fit their respective bands. But the fact Mustaine sings while playing much more difficult riffs, for me, shows Mustaine is the better guitarist
@@deveroth8871 any one can sing. Singing is just how one projects his/her voice. Liking a singers voice is just subjective. Point me towards a song Hammet sings while playing. Oh wait…
at the same time I noticed how Mustaine is standing there rigid and Hammett is swaying with the music, which to me sounds like Hammett is struggling less. Hammett also does backing vocals. I think they are both amazing. I would not use that as an argument for Mustaine to be better.
@@mal9310 you’re equating singing an entire song with backing vocals? Lol. Literally no one has ever made the argument of how they stand while performing.
@@HeCute_ I am not equating it. Just pointing it out. Don't get me wrong, I think Mustain is amazing. I just don't think I would put him above Hammett. I think they are both great. Hammett is my preference, but I would never judge someone for enjoying Megadeth. It is popular for a good reason. I listen to it too.
Technically, Dave is better, but I don’t know why I like Kirk’s playing more than dave. His solos remain in my memory and I could easily identify his style than the orhers.
Technically, what you said makes Kirk the better player lol. It’s all subjective, but I’d say that Kirks solos are more musical than Dave’s. Probably because he took lessons from Satrioni.
the word you're looking for is commercial. doesnt equal bad but you cant deny metallica's success is from catering to a wider audience than the original thrash scene and sold 125 million records doing so. megadeth still sold nearly 40 million records with daves rough vocals and rougher topics of real world problems and politics.
Honestly Dave isn’t that great as everyone claims he his, compare anything Dystopia, Kiko plays solo from outer space, insane technique and then comes Dave’s pentatonic lick that is just as impressive as anything Kirk done on Hardwired, to me atleast they are equal
@@Worran no dude, Dave Mustaine is just a complete guitarist, there is one thing to be able to play solos but to play and be an innovator like Dave Mustaine then that’s a whole different level. He not only plays solos, he comes up with the composition, the riffs, the ruthyms, the melody, hell even the drum works, he came up with the drum parts of rust in peace Polaris and five magics. Dave Mustaine is basically James, kirk and Lars combined in one package. He’s a complete guitarist. He’s not one dimensional.
@@Qthetar So is James. Don’t get me wrong, Mustaine wrote amazing shit, he’s an amazing rhythm guitar player, but his soloing isn’t as special as Marty’s or as Chris Poland’s. As a soloist, to me atleast, to my ear, Kirk’s solos are more memoriable than Dave’s, Megadeth’s best solos are by band’s main lead guitar player. That’s my opinion, you can have yours, don’t think you need to argue about that.
@@Worran James doesn’t do solos and ironically the most iconic riffs of Metallica comes from kirk and cliff. So that’s why I put Dave above them all. To be able to do it all that’s what I call a complete guitarist.
What people who don't play guitar may be unaware of is that the hand positions and techniques Kirk uses (generally speaking) are relatively easy to master. They are very friendly toward an autopilot style of lead guitar playing and do not require memorizing difficult fingering transitions. Dave doesn't use this comfortable/easy style of playing very much. They're both good but Dave is on a higher skill level. It's like the difference between strict form pull-ups v.s. kipping pull-ups.
Dave's playing is somewhat similar to that of a violinist as we don't do the pull ups that guitarists normally di. He keeps the fingers down that aren't going to change or if the chord is similar but is going up the fret he does that to. It's an overall more efficient way of playing guitar. That's why it's easier to play over his riffs without Dave messing up.
Dave : fast shredder , epic memorable riffs , blistering fast and complex solos and overall guitar god Kirk : not very fast but from the heart and very memorable solos fits perfectly with Metallica
Hammet was more precise and did a lot of taps, arpeggios, basic shredding techniques in his solos and they sounded perfect... But mustaine was the pioneer of the entire genre, his creativity surpassed Kirk in every way. Even though his precision was a little scratchy at times, he still made more complex solos than hammet, and played them at a faster speed.
But bro, if you want to see blistering fast, look up Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Michael Angelo Batio, Yngwie Malmsteen. Those guys would leave Mustaine in the dust when it comes to speed and precision. Lol but their solos don't seem as complex as Dave's.
I know you wanted the live shots but sometimes the audio is a bit too bad to get a good taste. I think Dave is much better but I am probably biased since I'm a bigger fan of Megadeth by leaps.
Dave has five things to juggle :being a leader for band, songwriting, vocals, rhythm, and lead. Kirk: lead and songwriting. When you juggle a lot. it's gonna sacrifice performance by a hair. (or a lot if you suck). Point being, Dave values all things a great musician should be. Kirk is a great performance lead player.
Yes, I heard Kirk doesn't write his part. As much as I joke about Lars he does more than play the drums and the business end. He composes and I didn't understand how until I watched a video of Lars and Dave working on songs and Lars uses is voice to get his ideas across. I still think anybody who turns Lars' ideas into riffs should still get credit regardless, even if it's 50%.
@@NAlvazaz "Yes, I heard Kirk doesn't write his part." That doesn't make any sense. No one in the band except Kirk has the skill to write solo's like the main lead in Master of Puppets, or the solo in Blackened or Shortest Straw. Just to name few. Also just watch Year and a Half in Life of Metallica and you'll see who writes the lead which he plays. He even wrote some of the most epic riffs that were used in Metallica song, including the bridge riff just before the solo in Damage Inc.. You clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about
In terms of overall Metal Mojo, it’s Dave. Unparalleled rhythm guitar, sings with instantly recognizable voice, and by the way decent lead. Kirk on the other hand crafts better solos in my opinion that are more interesting to listen to and much more memorable. But MegaDave rules anyway!
I prefer Dave's solos and Dave's rhythm but Kirk is no beginner or even intermediate level on the guitar, he's got his own way of being amazing! I might joke about his use of the wah pedal a bit much but he's cool.
They did both complex music and solos, but sometimes Dave plays only licks, scales or their solos are just noise and yes I know Kirk abuses from wah pedal but he has explored everything, given his abilities or capacities.
Dave is faster but Kirk's solos has emotion, more melodic and musical. Fast shredding without emotion is boring. I love Hangar18 tho, because of Marty Friedman.
@@jvahausstudios1276 I like Kirks solos, but Dave's solos show me exactly the kind of aggression I expect from Megadeth. Certainly a lot of emotion too and they go nicely together with the more melodic playing of Marty, Poland or other leads.
Dave mustaine is awesome but I just wanna stick up for Kirk right now. I think it needs to be remembered that Kirk founded exodus who certainly showed signs of thrash before Metallica and even influenced Dave mustaine and James hetfield riffs. Let's face it jump in the fire etc are not very heavy or thrashy not until songs like whiplash etc did Metallica get really heavy and thrashy. Kirk also had such a short amount of time to learn all the Metallica songs and solos after joining which has to be respected. He also has made some incredible riffs and solos for Metallica, he's become somewhat sloppy for a while but if two guys in your band never let you have a say musically it would probably impact your craft sadly. Kirk in the 80s was incredible. I love both but can't stand the Kirk hate
Dave's superior speed won't ever match Kirk's guitar work in Metallica. Music is to convey story and emotion, not showoff mindless fast shredding on electric guitar. Btw, Metallica has influenced these following bands: Meshuggah, Trivium, Dream Theatre, Pantera, Slayer, Deftones, Animals As Leaders, Plini, Mastodon, Bullet For My Valentine, Avenged Sevenfold, Mastodon and most of the metal bands we all listen today.
@@jvahausstudios1276 if you think Dave solos are mindless then clearly you don’t listen to the music you only watched this video. What a clown. Btw Megadeth influenced Metallica 😂, they literally stole Dave songs, riffs and solos, after they went of Dave material they started sucking how ironic 😂.
@@Qthetar They didn't steal his riffs he wrote them while in metallica and he literally wrote the four horsemen, jump in the fire, phantom lord, metal militia, one riff in rife the lightning, and two riffs in call of ktulu. Metallicas main legacy is in master of puppets an album that had nothing to do with dave mustaine so your comment that after his material they sucked is just plain dumb. Also jump in the fire, phantom lord and metal militia are probably their worst songs from those albums so if megadeth fans that are metallica haters want to lay claim to them then whatever. Metallica firing dave inspired him to comeback with great music, they all inspired each other to make great music.
@@deletedhero5579 yes but a lot of the riffs credited or not comes from his jamming. There are demos you can listen to where you see where some riffs progressed from. Dave also claims leper messiah used his riffs, which I can attest to that since there are riffs in that song that sound so much like Dave Mustaine style. That’s my point. And even 2 songs songs on Justice it came from his jamming with Lars, Lars hummed it and Dave played the riff, obviously his way. So yeah he didn’t write it but he played it when jamming with Lars. So he was a big influence that’s for sure.
@@Qthetar I've heard that leper messiah one, but he claimed it because it was a slide riff but dave mustaine didn't invent the slide riff so I believe that's a stretch. He certainly had nothing to do with anything on master of puppets or and justice for all. Lars hummed the tiff for and justice for all but that was to james not dave. And he also hummed the riff to ride the lightning. I always feel dave mustiane fans give way too much credit for his contributions to metallica even stretching as far to say he wrote all of their first 4 albums it's completely ridiculous metallucas most famous and favoured songs are nothing to do with Dave. On the other hand I feel a lot of metallica fans don't give him enough credit. He certainly was the driving force in the really early days. But metallica made their own legacy and dave made his own. It's all good 🤟
People are like "kirks solos are more memorable" of course they are, he plays same style in every songle solo lmao, dave innovates and steps out of his comfort zone plenty of times, thats a true lead guitarist right there.
Next time try to be more objective. I'm guitarist and Dave doesn't innovate a lot. He uses the same pentatonic fast licks over and over. Have you heard last Megadeth's album? Literally is Dave playing the same boring bluesy licks
Kirk's are very melodic and memorable, Dave's are a lot more shreddy and tight but not as memorable Both are great guitarists and I love both of them, but they both have their own strengths
I'd say Kirk's solos are more musical and Dave's are more shreddy. Both are amazing but Kirk's fit better into the songs. Dave has always been showboaty and it's evident in his solos
@@JohnnyJackson-yh9vw Disagree, Dave has proven plenty of times he can have equal parts Groove and Rhythm, thats not to sell Kirk short hes amazing and very much fits what you described but saying Dave "aint got it" is a bit underselling him imo.
This, to me, is a very fair comparison video that you clearly put a lot of thought and attention into. Both of their most well-known solos are there, and you chose live performances that were high-quality. There doesn’t seem to be bias here, so I really really appreciate that. It’s also a bunch of performances from different periods in their careers, which is very cool. Anyway, I will always take Kirk’s solos over Dave’s. I have always loathed Dave’s guitar tone - it’s thin and doesn’t lead out enough. His solos are also not melodic enough. That being said, even though I will always rather listen to Kirk’s playing, I believe Dave is a better guitarist in general. Kirk can’t play those riffs lol. Maybe he could’ve in 1985, but they’ve gone down such different roads that it would be almost unfair to expect that. They’re both so deep in their respective bands’ trenches. Dave is a far better rhythm guitarist. He won’t say it, but he is. He’s almost untouchable.
Hetfield for me feels undisputed but yeah, Dave ain’t no slouch in that end either. And that’s unfortunate if he feels like that still, his feel for rhythm is up there.
kirk is more david gilmour and dave is more van halen kirk is just more melodic when he writes, Dave noodles a lot and uses speed instead of dynamics but I love every time Dave speak up :D
What's the point of being able to shred and do it all the time.Fine, the guitarists, probably some of the fans could enjoy it, but for the most part people prefer something more melodic that you can actually listen to without bleeding your ears out.Also Kirk's solos are way more iconic than Dave's.My point being is that even in Kirk's most technical solos(Creeping death, Dyers eve, etc.) there are a bit of slow downs.I just can't find the meaning behind the fucking blistering shit.Anyways gotta give to Dave to still be able even after Metallica to create amazing band as well.Man's also amazing rhythm guitarist so yeah.\m/
hell fucking no creeping death is faster than daves any solo.. And kirk is a bluesy player his technic is way more better than daves just listen to ride the lightnings solo then lisyen holy wars you can say hes a better song/riff writer but no dave is not a better lead guitarist I play the goddamn guitar for 7 years I can say this without a fucking doubt kirk is better but marty is better than him with no doubt at all.. kirk does tapping better than him he has his own style I can listen to a solo and say look kirk's playing.. comparing shitty solos and ones solo is a one dumbass move srry just listen wake up dead I fucking got bored after fade to black u pussy megadeth fans probably never hold a goddamn guitar toxic shits
Serhat Tanılır dude you copy pasted this from another reply chain unless you actually typed the whole damn thing again. Pretty lazy tho. I’ll admit Kirk is incredible. But Dave shits on him in his technicality and precision.
@@thisdude773 my point was dave isnt faster or have better technique just listen to damage inc or creeping deaths solo those solos are way better than every solo mustaine ever writed believe me I play Guitar for half of my life and wah isnt a bad thing slash steve vai hendrix satriani they use wah too but if you mean too much than you are right.. dave might be a good rhytm player but he isnt good as james at rhytm dave is a good lead guitar player but again not good as kirky.. just look at rolling stones #100 player thing they both in that list at #85 in james #11 at kirk but dave is not even in that list lmao.. and ppl who voted for them are the best musicians that ever born so just stfu
It’s like comparing a lion to a tiger, both cats but different environments. They both are great in their respective environments. I always thought Kirk had more feel and melody while Dave was faster than hell and very intricate with solos. I definitely will say they both influenced my playing in one way or another
I think the good thing kirk did was to play Dave's solos note by note as he wrote. But through the years we've realized who is the master and who is the apprentice.
As a lead guitar player myself, I can respect what Dave does and his talent. I think one is capable of playing the others riffs/licks etc. They just have their own way they like to sound. Playing more difficult leads doesnt mean shit to me if it doesnt have a memorable, melodic sound. Kirk's style sounds better to me. Kirk is a cooler dude. Kirk wins it for me.
Kirk is more melodic than dave. Dave more precise on his solo. Both of them have their own advantages. Can we just love them both? Within in 10 years, they’ll will retired and never see them on stage again
80’s Kirk 😂 literally all he did was re recorded Dave material. 80’s Kirk that’s funny yet mustaine still rips and writes heavy/fast metal while Metallica is watered down.
How are you not gonna have Kirk Hammetts 3 best solos dyers eve, the last straw, and damage inc. or even compre them playing the same song phantom lord. Dave joined Metallica at their 30th anniversary live and played phantom lord but watch Kirk play the same solo on any live and Kirk seems much better. Here’s my opinion, Kirk is the better guitarist.
@Tushar Sharma LOL, you played guitar for 7 years and still think you know your shit? im not sure if i should be impressed by your lack of skill or by your lack of a brain
dave mustaine was the guitarist in metallica till 1983 he wrote the songs and solos for seek and destroy and four horsemen and he also wrote a few songs on ride the lightning
@Montanajj as individual players, Megadeth has more talented players... but the way they bring the music together is just not very enticing. Drumming doesn't quite match the Guitars, lead guitar often doesn't match the rhythm (especially when mustane does that obnoxious pentatonic shredding that any 16 year old at guitar center could do). Mustaine also was also not as good of a singer as Hetfield. He was a pioneer of Thrash, an excellent riff maker, and a good talent scout.. but IDK. Megadeth just too wild. Faster doesn't always = better. Only angsty teenagers and adrenaline junkies with ADHD think so.
@@justinklinck6575bruh do you really compared Dave Mustaine to 16year old kids who just play huh? The thing is Dave creates it and that kids plays it bruh. Shut the fuck up if you don't like Dave then whocares about your opinion.
Q Estrada so true. When James tries to make riff they have sound the same. Majority of Load and Reload have the same riffs. If you read the tabs is just 0-3-5-7s
That is Dave's solo, which also sounds better when played by him. The Kirk wah pedal has its place, but for reals dude, dial it back and see if Dave will give some guitar lessons. Partially joking, he is a really good player, but no Dave. That's for damn sure.
Dave is a master riff writer and player, but his solos are scratchy at times and also not as melodic. Kirk's solos are bluesy, I much prefer melody. Metallica has always blended agression and melody better than Megadeth or Slayer, and Kirk is clearly a part of that.
You saying Metallica did melody better than Marty of Megadeth? Are you stupid? Marty melody is 10000x more prevailing in Megadeth music, literally listen to all his solos in Megadeth it’s 100x better than Kirk ever was.
Kirk plays the same pentatonic blues phrases infinitely despite how versatile blues is. I’d scarcely call him melodic or interesting. And he’s fucking sloppy as fuck.
Dave is such a clean, precise, and great story teller with his solos. He doesn’t lean on the Wah pedal to make up for his lack of vibrato or means of expression during his solos. Dave for the win!
mustaine and hammett are super similar in their early days of lead guitarists in their use of scales and key signatures as well as speed but mustaine was a bit more self driven and kirk used the riffs and melodies formulated by james. however this was made up for in the way the two’s guitar work was such perfect chemistry. the solo from seek and destroy wouldn’t have been as good with mustaine bc mustaine isn’t metallica. mustaine is more creative but kirk is more suited for the energy and vibe
mustaine gets points for being self sufficient and creative on his own but kirk gets points for perfectly meshing his style with the rest of us band’s style, hence why metallica had more forward momentum as opposed to megadeth changing their lineup regularly. both are outstanding musicians no need to pick sides, be appreciative for both
@@tannerwilson8459 Exactly! and people still tryin to compare them both! I mean they're both wonderful and amazing in their own ways that's what makes them both unique!
Yeah, faster don't mean shit. Kirk used to be fast too, not as fast as Dave but Kirk's solos has emotion, more melodic and musical. Fast shredding without emotion is boring. I love Hangar18 tho, because of Marty Friedman.
When the comparison is between a lead guitarist and lead singer of two bands and the video is still entertaining to watch. Ps. Dont look at me like that :D
Hasn't enough time passed that we can all say that both bands are legendary and their great music will live on forever? Now that we've got that out of the way, here are the 5 best albums between the two, in order: 1. Justice 2. Rust in Peace 3. Countdown to Extinction 4. Master of Puppets 5. Ride the Lightning
1. Rust in Peace 2. Ride the lighting 3. Countdown to a Extinction 4. Peace sells... but who’s buying 5. Master of puppets AJFA is overrated songs are too long and get boring. Especially when only 10 seconds of them is the solo.
They’re both fantastic. You can’t just look at who shreds more, who’s faster and what’s more melodic. They aren’t playing off of tabs out of a book; they wrote the tabs in the book. They’re both talented and different.
People talking about "playing fast but no emotions", what do you mean? Excitement, angery, terror, amazament are not emotions or what? Or do you only consider love, sorrow and sadness as emotions? Everytime people mention this feels like they have only listened to Kirk's Fade to Black, One, Unforgiven solos and Dave's Holy Wars, Hangar 18, Mechanix solos.
Dave plays faster without feeling unlike kirk hammet plays it with feeling melodic, soul, blues rock depending on the song. For example unforgiven entersandman and etc.
Fast shredding without conveying any story or no emotion is boring. Kirk never claimed to be a better player or a guitar god. He only claims to play guitar in Metallica. Dave is boring. Marty Friedman beats them both.
Since when fast playing equals no emotion? If you dont feel anything from it then thats your problem, that doesnt mean that the guitar player "has no emotion", plus if you think shredding is what dave does then you havent heard many of his solos. Shredding is playing fast and with no clear pattern wich is not what dave does, dave writes solos like he writes riffs with a lot of repetition and development
@@jvahausstudios1276 how is holy wars, five magics, wake up dead, burnt ice, she wolf, ashes in your mouth and so on boring solos? They literally melt your face.
Kirk's Blackened solo alone blows all of Dave's solos away. Plus, Dyers Eve, One, The Shortest Straw, The Frayed Ends Of Sanity, To Live Is To Die, Disposable Heroes, Leper Messiah, Orion, Call Of Khtulu, Creeping Death, Fight Fire With Fire, Fade To Black, All 3 Unforgivens, The Struggle Within, My Friend Of Misery, Wherever I My Roam, The Day That Never Comes, All Nightmare Long, Spit Out The Bone, etc. The list goes on. Kirk has written many iconic solos!
Fun fact: kirk did not write most of the solos he has played and he tried to mimic daves solos from the no life 'til leather demos on kill em all and yet he couldn't do them
Notice how easily Kirk learned and improved all of Dave's kill em all solos. He didn't want to mindlessly shred. Listen to all of the song-stealing parts in between the shredding. Kirk is so much better overall as a guitarist. Repeating thrash licks over and over faster doesn't make someone a better guitarist.
In term of technical there are thousands of 80s guitar who would beat the shit out the dave ass. Kirk ruled the generation because he know how to catch impress overall common people. So many great youtubers guitars are huge fan of Metallica still today. That proves Kirk is greater than Dave no matter he is less technical than Mustain. If I m compelled Offcourse i would take Megadeth in term of Marty's flavour.
The fact you even have to compare the frontman who plays rhythms writes all the music and sings to Kirk who had little to no say in the songwriting (we know it was James Lars and cliff before his passing) says enough.
Both of them are some of my favorite guitar players ever but imma have to go with Kirk just cause he influence me the most but other than that they both have their style and it works
Jam boys and girls pick up your guitar and have fun that's what it's all about and that's what these two guys would absolutely enjoy us to relic in. 😎🎶🤫🎸
Kirk: solos melodicos, mucho Wah, y mas memorables. Dave: solos mas rápidos que los de Kirk, mas "sucios" (que no quiere decir malo sino mas bien caracteristico de dave), tiende a seguir un patron repetitivo que da un buen resultado. Me encantan ambos guitarristas de hecho ambos son mis inspiraciones en los solos del Metal aunque debo admitir que ambos tienen sus falencias como sus virtudes.
Muy buen comentario. Dave es muy sucio y repetitivo. Me da risa como mezclaste cosas fallencias y virtudes, que no se entiende si mucho wah es bueno o malo jajaja
3:33 This solo alone is enough to prove to me that Kirk is a far more memorable lead guitarist... at least in my opinion... I cannot think of a more melodic yet intense (emotionally) solo... It's almost as if the guitar is crying.
As good as Kirk was, Dave has always been one of if not the greatest guitarist in all of thrash metal, and he easily beats kirk almost without challenge
Love Megadeth !!! But Metallica is unearthly the most perfect band. Slayer is cool if you one the one trick pony evil sound. Metallica is like Metal mixed with Pink Floyd mixed with classical and lyrics everyone can relate too as Hetfield is a genius. YOU CANT BEAT KIRKS ABILITY TO WRITE MEANINGFUL SOLOS. HIS PLAYING IS FN AWESOME AND I LOVE THE MISTAKES HE SOMETIMES MAKES OR STRANGE SOUNDS CAUSE IT MAKES IT EVEN FN BETTER. KIRK IS MY TOP 5 FOR WRITING MOVING SOLOS AND LOVE THE WAY HE SOUNDS MORE THAN LOVE IT ITS ROCKS THE EARTH. Sorry Dave is amazing but Metallica aren't human theyre aliens.
@King Nereus ill check those albums out again but Slayer always kinda has the same vibe like tool. Metallica the good Metallica gives a lot of styles and influences
Mustaine es una bestia técnica, de los dos es por mucho el guitarrista más rápido y más amo del Shredding pero Hammett Por poco diría que tiene el mejor tono además de más Feeling y sentimiento apesar de que tanto le hechen en cara su abuso de la Whammy bar
Kirk has the physical style for a lead guitarist but his solos are just random bits and not too organized. Not in a good way. Dave is just a better guitarist musicaly. I know the millions of albums metallica has sold wont show that but it's clear to me that mustaine is just better. Deth is one of my favorite bands. I love metallica as well. But dave clearly just better
This argument is like asking what's a better truck. Ford or Chevy. No matter the choice there will be an argument. I will say this, Dave getting booted from Metallica was the best thing to happen in the metal world.
the two are identical in the use of pentatonic phrases, well, this was one of the characteristics why james liked kirk's way of playing, the detail is that kirk abuses the wah wah a lot, for that reason he is often criticized
Yeah, dave is shredding like a psycho, but I can't remember any of his solos. He's just shredding without feeling. Davy plays better and we all see this, but that wah wah guy makes better solos
You clearly haven’t listened too much of Megadeth if you think his solos aren’t memorable. Holy wars and 5 magics solos are literally legendary solos, and far more memorable than anything kirk ever did.
there is no comparison for me. Dave has such a better feel and sound, his articulation and sound is way more clean, he plays through the changes instead of against them, even when he uses pentatonics it makes sense cause he is respecting the vibe of the song, many megadeth sings have that bluesy jazzy feel to them. I just think Dave is probably one of the biggest genius of metal music, i can hear in his music a very high level of music knowledge specially regarding harmonic choices and even groove changes. Kirk just sounds like a bad shredder to me, i dont dislike his pentatonic stuff, its just the context in which he chooses to play it and tbh after watching a bunch of docs showing how metallica construct there music, kirk is very limited creatively. Still its all about taste, im a jazz musician and i tend to value different things... and no complex is not better, better is better, therefor Dave is the man.
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Dave did not just write solos, but the riffs, the rythm and the songs of Megadeth. So I'd say, Dave is more versatile.
Right on🤘🏽
kirk writes riffs either
@@martimxavier9520 He may do so but definitely not like Dave their early two albums were based off of what Dave brought to the band
@@martimxavier9520 he composes very little… it’s usually Lars and James Hetfield that do most of the thinking in Metallica
In Megadeth it’s mostly Dave Mustaine but his band mates contribute as well like Marty Friedman and Chris Poland … but overall I would say Dave is the brains behind Megadeth. He’s also my 3rd all time favorite guitarist and so I might be biased towards him compared to Kirk lol
This is a solo battle strictly tho haha
I think Dave is the overall better guitar player, but Kirk has a knack for memorable solos
Yeah agree , well said
Kirk leaves some space lol
Yeah I agree Dave is a really good player but I think Kirk in his prime made some really awesome and creative solos that fit the song like the blackened and wherever I may roam solos
@@ReedHomanMusic sure marty freidman shits on kirk tho imo
@@ReedHomanMusic да, Кирк умеет писать хорошие соло
I'll always take Dave for how creative and unpredictable he is
I'll always take Dave for how creative and unpredictable he is
same
Me too. Kirk's a good guitarist but Dave's guitar takes over when he plays. It's like it has a personality of its own and loves expressing itself.
Both are great guitarists. Both of their styles fit their respective bands. But the fact Mustaine sings while playing much more difficult riffs, for me, shows Mustaine is the better guitarist
you call what mustache does with his voice singing?
@@deveroth8871 any one can sing. Singing is just how one projects his/her voice. Liking a singers voice is just subjective. Point me towards a song Hammet sings while playing. Oh wait…
at the same time I noticed how Mustaine is standing there rigid and Hammett is swaying with the music, which to me sounds like Hammett is struggling less.
Hammett also does backing vocals.
I think they are both amazing. I would not use that as an argument for Mustaine to be better.
@@mal9310 you’re equating singing an entire song with backing vocals? Lol. Literally no one has ever made the argument of how they stand while performing.
@@HeCute_ I am not equating it. Just pointing it out.
Don't get me wrong, I think Mustain is amazing. I just don't think I would put him above Hammett. I think they are both great. Hammett is my preference, but I would never judge someone for enjoying Megadeth. It is popular for a good reason. I listen to it too.
Kirk Hammett: “I’ve always showed a lot of empathy towards him..”
Dave Mustaine: “Hold my A tout le monde ale.”
Dave: "I banged his gf before Ieft"
@@victorvaughan2590 lol he said that on fact or fiction
I personally prefer Dave's style but they're both absolutely incredible players
Kirk and Mustaine are legends I like both! Their solos are amazing imo.
Technically, Dave is better, but I don’t know why I like Kirk’s playing more than dave. His solos remain in my memory and I could easily identify his style than the orhers.
You could say The Memory Remains
The unforgiven solo was epic.
Technically, what you said makes Kirk the better player lol. It’s all subjective, but I’d say that Kirks solos are more musical than Dave’s. Probably because he took lessons from Satrioni.
Kirk solos sounds the same, while Mustaine’s are very technicals. Hammer solo in Fade to Black is his best.
Mustaines riffs tho 🔥
Dave is much faster - a masterful shredder, but Kirk's tunes were far more memorable and impressionable in my opinion.
the word you're looking for is commercial. doesnt equal bad but you cant deny metallica's success is from catering to a wider audience than the original thrash scene and sold 125 million records doing so. megadeth still sold nearly 40 million records with daves rough vocals and rougher topics of real world problems and politics.
Honestly Dave isn’t that great as everyone claims he his, compare anything Dystopia, Kiko plays solo from outer space, insane technique and then comes Dave’s pentatonic lick that is just as impressive as anything Kirk done on Hardwired, to me atleast they are equal
@@Worran no dude, Dave Mustaine is just a complete guitarist, there is one thing to be able to play solos but to play and be an innovator like Dave Mustaine then that’s a whole different level. He not only plays solos, he comes up with the composition, the riffs, the ruthyms, the melody, hell even the drum works, he came up with the drum parts of rust in peace Polaris and five magics.
Dave Mustaine is basically James, kirk and Lars combined in one package. He’s a complete guitarist. He’s not one dimensional.
@@Qthetar So is James. Don’t get me wrong, Mustaine wrote amazing shit, he’s an amazing rhythm guitar player, but his soloing isn’t as special as Marty’s or as Chris Poland’s. As a soloist, to me atleast, to my ear, Kirk’s solos are more memoriable than Dave’s, Megadeth’s best solos are by band’s main lead guitar player. That’s my opinion, you can have yours, don’t think you need to argue about that.
@@Worran James doesn’t do solos and ironically the most iconic riffs of Metallica comes from kirk and cliff. So that’s why I put Dave above them all. To be able to do it all that’s what I call a complete guitarist.
What people who don't play guitar may be unaware of is that the hand positions and techniques Kirk uses (generally speaking) are relatively easy to master. They are very friendly toward an autopilot style of lead guitar playing and do not require memorizing difficult fingering transitions. Dave doesn't use this comfortable/easy style of playing very much. They're both good but Dave is on a higher skill level. It's like the difference between strict form pull-ups v.s. kipping pull-ups.
Fuck technicality give me kirk in his prime any day.
Dave's playing is somewhat similar to that of a violinist as we don't do the pull ups that guitarists normally di. He keeps the fingers down that aren't going to change or if the chord is similar but is going up the fret he does that to. It's an overall more efficient way of playing guitar. That's why it's easier to play over his riffs without Dave messing up.
@abdullaafeef3117 sigh, only if you are a casual listener.
Dave : fast shredder , epic memorable riffs , blistering fast and complex solos and overall guitar god
Kirk : not very fast but from the heart and very memorable solos fits perfectly with Metallica
Hammet was more precise and did a lot of taps, arpeggios, basic shredding techniques in his solos and they sounded perfect... But mustaine was the pioneer of the entire genre, his creativity surpassed Kirk in every way. Even though his precision was a little scratchy at times, he still made more complex solos than hammet, and played them at a faster speed.
But bro, if you want to see blistering fast, look up Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Michael Angelo Batio, Yngwie Malmsteen. Those guys would leave Mustaine in the dust when it comes to speed and precision. Lol but their solos don't seem as complex as Dave's.
Well, everyone knows Kirk can be as fast as Mustaine when he wants to.
@@apocalypse3485 That's the problem, he's consistently writing unmemorable shit nowadays
@@natea3799 who even listens to new metallica?
I know you wanted the live shots but sometimes the audio is a bit too bad to get a good taste. I think Dave is much better but I am probably biased since I'm a bigger fan of Megadeth by leaps.
Dave has five things to juggle :being a leader for band, songwriting, vocals, rhythm, and lead. Kirk: lead and songwriting. When you juggle a lot. it's gonna sacrifice performance by a hair. (or a lot if you suck). Point being, Dave values all things a great musician should be. Kirk is a great performance lead player.
Yes, I heard Kirk doesn't write his part. As much as I joke about Lars he does more than play the drums and the business end. He composes and I didn't understand how until I watched a video of Lars and Dave working on songs and Lars uses is voice to get his ideas across. I still think anybody who turns Lars' ideas into riffs should still get credit regardless, even if it's 50%.
@@NAlvazaz "Yes, I heard Kirk doesn't write his part." That doesn't make any sense. No one in the band except Kirk has the skill to write solo's like the main lead in Master of Puppets, or the solo in Blackened or Shortest Straw. Just to name few. Also just watch Year and a Half in Life of Metallica and you'll see who writes the lead which he plays. He even wrote some of the most epic riffs that were used in Metallica song, including the bridge riff just before the solo in Damage Inc.. You clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about
In terms of overall Metal Mojo, it’s Dave. Unparalleled rhythm guitar, sings with instantly recognizable voice, and by the way decent lead. Kirk on the other hand crafts better solos in my opinion that are more interesting to listen to and much more memorable. But MegaDave rules anyway!
I prefer Dave's solos and Dave's rhythm but Kirk is no beginner or even intermediate level on the guitar, he's got his own way of being amazing! I might joke about his use of the wah pedal a bit much but he's cool.
Dave’s are most complex and random kirks solos actually go along with the song
They did both complex music and solos, but sometimes Dave plays only licks, scales or their solos are just noise and yes I know Kirk abuses from wah pedal but he has explored everything, given his abilities or capacities.
Dave is faster but Kirk's solos has emotion, more melodic and musical. Fast shredding without emotion is boring. I love Hangar18 tho, because of Marty Friedman.
@@jvahausstudios1276 I like Kirks solos, but Dave's solos show me exactly the kind of aggression I expect from Megadeth. Certainly a lot of emotion too and they go nicely together with the more melodic playing of Marty, Poland or other leads.
@@Chandlerbingeling Marty rules among all other guitar players of Metallica and Megadeth.
Ahhh, Buckethead and Dave have a similar approach both are superior.
Dave mustaine is awesome but I just wanna stick up for Kirk right now.
I think it needs to be remembered that Kirk founded exodus who certainly showed signs of thrash before Metallica and even influenced Dave mustaine and James hetfield riffs. Let's face it jump in the fire etc are not very heavy or thrashy not until songs like whiplash etc did Metallica get really heavy and thrashy.
Kirk also had such a short amount of time to learn all the Metallica songs and solos after joining which has to be respected.
He also has made some incredible riffs and solos for Metallica, he's become somewhat sloppy for a while but if two guys in your band never let you have a say musically it would probably impact your craft sadly.
Kirk in the 80s was incredible.
I love both but can't stand the Kirk hate
Dave's superior speed won't ever match Kirk's guitar work in Metallica. Music is to convey story and emotion, not showoff mindless fast shredding on electric guitar.
Btw, Metallica has influenced these following bands: Meshuggah, Trivium, Dream Theatre, Pantera, Slayer, Deftones, Animals As Leaders, Plini, Mastodon, Bullet For My Valentine, Avenged Sevenfold, Mastodon and most of the metal bands we all listen today.
@@jvahausstudios1276 if you think Dave solos are mindless then clearly you don’t listen to the music you only watched this video. What a clown.
Btw Megadeth influenced Metallica 😂, they literally stole Dave songs, riffs and solos, after they went of Dave material they started sucking how ironic 😂.
@@Qthetar They didn't steal his riffs he wrote them while in metallica and he literally wrote the four horsemen, jump in the fire, phantom lord, metal militia, one riff in rife the lightning, and two riffs in call of ktulu. Metallicas main legacy is in master of puppets an album that had nothing to do with dave mustaine so your comment that after his material they sucked is just plain dumb. Also jump in the fire, phantom lord and metal militia are probably their worst songs from those albums so if megadeth fans that are metallica haters want to lay claim to them then whatever. Metallica firing dave inspired him to comeback with great music, they all inspired each other to make great music.
@@deletedhero5579 yes but a lot of the riffs credited or not comes from his jamming. There are demos you can listen to where you see where some riffs progressed from. Dave also claims leper messiah used his riffs, which I can attest to that since there are riffs in that song that sound so much like Dave Mustaine style. That’s my point. And even 2 songs songs on Justice it came from his jamming with Lars, Lars hummed it and Dave played the riff, obviously his way. So yeah he didn’t write it but he played it when jamming with Lars. So he was a big influence that’s for sure.
@@Qthetar I've heard that leper messiah one, but he claimed it because it was a slide riff but dave mustaine didn't invent the slide riff so I believe that's a stretch. He certainly had nothing to do with anything on master of puppets or and justice for all. Lars hummed the tiff for and justice for all but that was to james not dave. And he also hummed the riff to ride the lightning.
I always feel dave mustiane fans give way too much credit for his contributions to metallica even stretching as far to say he wrote all of their first 4 albums it's completely ridiculous metallucas most famous and favoured songs are nothing to do with Dave. On the other hand I feel a lot of metallica fans don't give him enough credit. He certainly was the driving force in the really early days. But metallica made their own legacy and dave made his own. It's all good 🤟
Dave all day when he played the 30th anniversary show we finally got to hear those songs the way the god lord intended
People are like "kirks solos are more memorable" of course they are, he plays same style in every songle solo lmao, dave innovates and steps out of his comfort zone plenty of times, thats a true lead guitarist right there.
Yea, I can barely even tell his solos from One and Unforgiven apart they are so similar 🙄
Next time try to be more objective. I'm guitarist and Dave doesn't innovate a lot. He uses the same pentatonic fast licks over and over. Have you heard last Megadeth's album? Literally is Dave playing the same boring bluesy licks
@@xxFABRI56xx you really wannaa talk about not innovating? Uhhhh, have you heard Kirk hammetts solos ever?
Dave dose the same thing
@@JamesWilson01bro is a bit def
Kirk's are very melodic and memorable, Dave's are a lot more shreddy and tight but not as memorable
Both are great guitarists and I love both of them, but they both have their own strengths
I'd say Kirk's solos are more musical and Dave's are more shreddy. Both are amazing but Kirk's fit better into the songs. Dave has always been showboaty and it's evident in his solos
Musical, it's all music, 😂😂😂
They both play great.
We will never get to know sober Dave that focused all his talent on solos
No contest Both are amazing. Fight me.
Kirk's solos tell a story. That's a big difference that gets often ignored. It's very important that's why he's a legend
This is the true answer why I prefer Kirk to Dave as a lead player.
Absolutely, first solo at Fade to Black, its so clean and painful, and compare the song...
yezzz. brooo
Kirk has better groove and rhythm. Mustain is about speed and aggression. To me kirk has the feeling mystaine ain't got
@@JohnnyJackson-yh9vw Disagree, Dave has proven plenty of times he can have equal parts Groove and Rhythm, thats not to sell Kirk short hes amazing and very much fits what you described but saying Dave "aint got it" is a bit underselling him imo.
Both are so good i cant choose lmao i like both bands so much 😂
This, to me, is a very fair comparison video that you clearly put a lot of thought and attention into. Both of their most well-known solos are there, and you chose live performances that were high-quality. There doesn’t seem to be bias here, so I really really appreciate that. It’s also a bunch of performances from different periods in their careers, which is very cool.
Anyway, I will always take Kirk’s solos over Dave’s. I have always loathed Dave’s guitar tone - it’s thin and doesn’t lead out enough. His solos are also not melodic enough. That being said, even though I will always rather listen to Kirk’s playing, I believe Dave is a better guitarist in general. Kirk can’t play those riffs lol. Maybe he could’ve in 1985, but they’ve gone down such different roads that it would be almost unfair to expect that. They’re both so deep in their respective bands’ trenches. Dave is a far better rhythm guitarist. He won’t say it, but he is. He’s almost untouchable.
Much appreciate!
Hetfield for me feels undisputed but yeah, Dave ain’t no slouch in that end either.
And that’s unfortunate if he feels like that still, his feel for rhythm is up there.
@@SpiralIntoAVoidI agree with you. Hatfield is better at rhythm than either Kirk or Dave.
kirk is more david gilmour and dave is more van halen
kirk is just more melodic when he writes, Dave noodles a lot and uses speed instead of dynamics
but I love every time Dave speak up :D
thank you for putting this together. very good selection.
I appreciate them both, but I just like Hammett's stuff better.
Great video. Thank you.
bro both guitarists are good but gotta go with dave on this one mans can shred without a wah pedal
What's the point of being able to shred and do it all the time.Fine, the guitarists, probably some of the fans could enjoy it, but for the most part people prefer something more melodic that you can actually listen to without bleeding your ears out.Also Kirk's solos are way more iconic than Dave's.My point being is that even in Kirk's most technical solos(Creeping death, Dyers eve, etc.) there are a bit of slow downs.I just can't find the meaning behind the fucking blistering shit.Anyways gotta give to Dave to still be able even after Metallica to create amazing band as well.Man's also amazing rhythm guitarist so yeah.\m/
@@ractv22 aw dave made his wittle ears bweed
@@ronpaul1082 LMAOOO facts
Kirks solos go better with the songs but Dave’s are way more complicated and faster, they are way more impressive as a result.
hell fucking no creeping death is faster than daves any solo.. And kirk is a bluesy player his technic is way more better than daves just listen to ride the lightnings solo then lisyen holy wars you can say hes a better song/riff writer but no dave is not a better lead guitarist I play the goddamn guitar for 7 years I can say this without a fucking doubt kirk is better but marty is better than him with no doubt at all.. kirk does tapping better than him he has his own style I can listen to a solo and say look kirk's playing.. comparing shitty solos and ones solo is a one dumbass move srry just listen wake up dead I fucking got bored after fade to black u pussy megadeth fans probably never hold a goddamn guitar toxic shits
Serhat Tanılır dude you copy pasted this from another reply chain unless you actually typed the whole damn thing again. Pretty lazy tho. I’ll admit Kirk is incredible. But Dave shits on him in his technicality and precision.
Serhat Tanılır if u get bored from wake up dead u have bad taste, and Dave dosent need to use wah either
@@thisdude773 my point was dave isnt faster or have better technique just listen to damage inc or creeping deaths solo those solos are way better than every solo mustaine ever writed believe me I play Guitar for half of my life and wah isnt a bad thing slash steve vai hendrix satriani they use wah too but if you mean too much than you are right.. dave might be a good rhytm player but he isnt good as james at rhytm dave is a good lead guitar player but again not good as kirky.. just look at rolling stones #100 player thing they both in that list at #85 in james #11 at kirk but dave is not even in that list lmao.. and ppl who voted for them are the best musicians that ever born so just stfu
@@guitarandgaming2433 meh the fact that I copied it doesnt change its right..
It’s like comparing a lion to a tiger, both cats but different environments. They both are great in their respective environments. I always thought Kirk had more feel and melody while Dave was faster than hell and very intricate with solos. I definitely will say they both influenced my playing in one way or another
I think the good thing kirk did was to play Dave's solos note by note as he wrote.
But through the years we've realized who is the master and who is the apprentice.
As a lead guitar player myself, I can respect what Dave does and his talent.
I think one is capable of playing the others riffs/licks etc. They just have their own way they like to sound.
Playing more difficult leads doesnt mean shit to me if it doesnt have a memorable, melodic sound.
Kirk's style sounds better to me.
Kirk is a cooler dude.
Kirk wins it for me.
Amen 🙏
I think Dave is a better guitar player bt I agree with you everything else man.
True
Amen!!
Kirk is more melodic than dave. Dave more precise on his solo. Both of them have their own advantages. Can we just love them both? Within in 10 years, they’ll will retired and never see them on stage again
No Dave Mustaine
@@CDAW_45 fan boys like you make people dislike Megadeth and Dave.
Mustaine isnt floppy af wdym
If we talk about 80s Kirk, he totally takes the win IN MY OPINION.
😂😂😂😂
80’s Kirk 😂 literally all he did was re recorded Dave material. 80’s Kirk that’s funny yet mustaine still rips and writes heavy/fast metal while Metallica is watered down.
I agree
Love Dave’s stuff, but Kirk will always be more meaningful to me… up to reload
Dave is a good guitar player. Kirk is Metallica 's lead guitar
@@alvarotroncoso6290 You must not realize that Dave often switches lead guitar duties with his lead guitarist. Oh well.
How are you not gonna have Kirk Hammetts 3 best solos dyers eve, the last straw, and damage inc. or even compre them playing the same song phantom lord. Dave joined Metallica at their 30th anniversary live and played phantom lord but watch Kirk play the same solo on any live and Kirk seems much better. Here’s my opinion, Kirk is the better guitarist.
Rythm guitarist Is better Dave 100%. But not solo. In rythm Is even better than Hetfield
@@TheReelFlander hmm,sure buddy,sure.
Dave literally wrote the solo for it, they didn't let kirk change any existing solos too much
@Tushar Sharma whatever you say tushar
@Tushar Sharma LOL, you played guitar for 7 years and still think you know your shit? im not sure if i should be impressed by your lack of skill or by your lack of a brain
dave mustaine was the guitarist in metallica till 1983 he wrote the songs and solos for seek and destroy and four horsemen and he also wrote a few songs on ride the lightning
They have Dave Mustaine credited for music all the way up into And Justice for All.
A few i think 6 songs from a album including 8-10songs
Travis Duttry no they don’t only till ride the lightning
@@oldmatevb puppetz, he's on leper messiah too
ch4s no his not trust me I know Dave claimed it but it was probably a riff they made just jamming and it stayed at the back of James mind
I never realized how much more melodic Metallica is. Megadeth's instrumentals are all over the place.
XD?
You’re talking about the same band that had Marty Friedman and Chris Poland lol.. please tell me you didn’t say that
@Montanajj as individual players, Megadeth has more talented players... but the way they bring the music together is just not very enticing. Drumming doesn't quite match the Guitars, lead guitar often doesn't match the rhythm (especially when mustane does that obnoxious pentatonic shredding that any 16 year old at guitar center could do). Mustaine also was also not as good of a singer as Hetfield. He was a pioneer of Thrash, an excellent riff maker, and a good talent scout.. but IDK. Megadeth just too wild. Faster doesn't always = better. Only angsty teenagers and adrenaline junkies with ADHD think so.
@@justinklinck6575bruh do you really compared Dave Mustaine to 16year old kids who just play huh?
The thing is Dave creates it and that kids plays it bruh.
Shut the fuck up if you don't like Dave then whocares about your opinion.
@@justinklinck6575any 16 year old could not do that unless they’re prodigious💀
I think they are two guitarists close in their way of playing but in my opinion the solo of Creeping Death followed by the "Die" Riff is above all
Kirk has a ton of iconic solos under his belt. My favorite being Ride the Lighting. But everything after the black album sounded the same.
I stopped listening to Metallica after the black album. They ran out of Dave licks. Lol
Q Estrada so true. When James tries to make riff they have sound the same. Majority of Load and Reload have the same riffs. If you read the tabs is just 0-3-5-7s
Kirks solos in fade to black r great and he has a bunch but his wah wah use is old Dave has a much more refined and smooth sound l vote Dave
@@QhEstrada Thats the most stupid comment i've seen today xd, no offense
That is Dave's solo, which also sounds better when played by him. The Kirk wah pedal has its place, but for reals dude, dial it back and see if Dave will give some guitar lessons. Partially joking, he is a really good player, but no Dave. That's for damn sure.
Kirk is good! Dave is a God!!!
Marc McCourt both god
Kirk is amazing Dave is a god
@Tushar Sharma Cept for that Dave is a better player
@Tushar Sharma Yes!
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Dave is a master riff writer and player, but his solos are scratchy at times and also not as melodic. Kirk's solos are bluesy, I much prefer melody. Metallica has always blended agression and melody better than Megadeth or Slayer, and Kirk is clearly a part of that.
The opposite is true my friend!
Dave does a lot of Melody too he just lets the other leads do the melody for him and he bring the aggression.
You saying Metallica did melody better than Marty of Megadeth? Are you stupid? Marty melody is 10000x more prevailing in Megadeth music, literally listen to all his solos in Megadeth it’s 100x better than Kirk ever was.
Kirk plays the same pentatonic blues phrases infinitely despite how versatile blues is. I’d scarcely call him melodic or interesting. And he’s fucking sloppy as fuck.
You can tell who the more successful band is by the video qualities hahahaha
Dude I Love Megadeth And Metallica Its So Damn Hard Both Of Them Sound Good
Both absolute legends, but Dave has something about him that just keeps everything more interesting
Dave is such a clean, precise, and great story teller with his solos. He doesn’t lean on the Wah pedal to make up for his lack of vibrato or means of expression during his solos. Dave for the win!
In soloing capability, tempo, feeling, complexity Kirk is a winner. Next battle, please
Agreed
Dave noodles faster-Kirk has significantly more memorable melodies and dynamics. Going with Kirk here.
mustaine and hammett are super similar in their early days of lead guitarists in their use of scales and key signatures as well as speed but mustaine was a bit more self driven and kirk used the riffs and melodies formulated by james. however this was made up for in the way the two’s guitar work was such perfect chemistry. the solo from seek and destroy wouldn’t have been as good with mustaine bc mustaine isn’t metallica. mustaine is more creative but kirk is more suited for the energy and vibe
mustaine gets points for being self sufficient and creative on his own but kirk gets points for perfectly meshing his style with the rest of us band’s style, hence why metallica had more forward momentum as opposed to megadeth changing their lineup regularly. both are outstanding musicians no need to pick sides, be appreciative for both
@@tannerwilson8459 Exactly! and people still tryin to compare them both! I mean they're both wonderful and amazing in their own ways that's what makes them both unique!
@@kirsten1509 dave's band not even on the radar who is his mouthy lil drummer
@@justinblink180nutz7 lol they just won a Grammy for their last album you clown.
So they won a Grammy sorry well its about time James will have to put his autograph on it so it's worth something
Dave faster and more precise, but can’t name 3 memorable solos of his, Kirk on the other hand has them in abundance!
that hit the nail on the head
Yeah, faster don't mean shit. Kirk used to be fast too, not as fast as Dave but Kirk's solos has emotion, more melodic and musical. Fast shredding without emotion is boring. I love Hangar18 tho, because of Marty Friedman.
Kirk is a really good melodic solo songwriter while implementing shred to it.
Holy wars , five magics , my last words some of daves best solos
@@juanespinal1071 Still nothing special when you compare those solos to Marty Friedman’s
James said the seek and destroy solo was written by Dave
Both are good for their band
I love them both, FUCK
Dave wins all day. Kirk is no doubt spectacular, he was even one of the folks that led me to want to play guitar. Dave is just better in so many ways.
When the comparison is between a lead guitarist and lead singer of two bands and the video is still entertaining to watch.
Ps. Dont look at me like that :D
In technicality Dave mustaine wins but "fade to black"" kirk wins hands down
Hahahaha...both guitar players make millions money tho...
Kirk makes more tho..
So does Tom DeLonge
Lol. It's not about who plays better if you're in a band you must play very crucial role for the band. We are making music not just solos😂
@@jeisonhansson Because , Metallica is pop rock but Megadeth still trash.
@@michaelhodilofficial are you an idiot tom not was in Metallica
Hasn't enough time passed that we can all say that both bands are legendary and their great music will live on forever?
Now that we've got that out of the way, here are the 5 best albums between the two, in order:
1. Justice
2. Rust in Peace
3. Countdown to Extinction
4. Master of Puppets
5. Ride the Lightning
Rust is the best album hands down, and justice is my favorite Metallica record, and it probably comes in second for me.
1. Rust in Peace
2. Ride the lighting
3. Countdown to a Extinction
4. Peace sells... but who’s buying
5. Master of puppets
AJFA is overrated songs are too long and get boring. Especially when only 10 seconds of them is the solo.
They’re both fantastic. You can’t just look at who shreds more, who’s faster and what’s more melodic. They aren’t playing off of tabs out of a book; they wrote the tabs in the book. They’re both talented and different.
People talking about "playing fast but no emotions", what do you mean? Excitement, angery, terror, amazament are not emotions or what? Or do you only consider love, sorrow and sadness as emotions? Everytime people mention this feels like they have only listened to Kirk's Fade to Black, One, Unforgiven solos and Dave's Holy Wars, Hangar 18, Mechanix solos.
Dave: i am amazing at rhythm
James: Hold my beer
Dave plays faster without feeling unlike kirk hammet plays it with feeling melodic, soul, blues rock depending on the song. For example unforgiven entersandman and etc.
Fast shredding without conveying any story or no emotion is boring. Kirk never claimed to be a better player or a guitar god. He only claims to play guitar in Metallica. Dave is boring. Marty Friedman beats them both.
Since when fast playing equals no emotion? If you dont feel anything from it then thats your problem, that doesnt mean that the guitar player "has no emotion", plus if you think shredding is what dave does then you havent heard many of his solos.
Shredding is playing fast and with no clear pattern wich is not what dave does, dave writes solos like he writes riffs with a lot of repetition and development
Kirk is the best. Dave just had the frustration. That did the work
😂 how about you listen to more music you clown.
@@jvahausstudios1276 how is holy wars, five magics, wake up dead, burnt ice, she wolf, ashes in your mouth and so on boring solos? They literally melt your face.
Kirk's Blackened solo alone blows all of Dave's solos away. Plus, Dyers Eve, One, The Shortest Straw, The Frayed Ends Of Sanity, To Live Is To Die, Disposable Heroes, Leper Messiah, Orion, Call Of Khtulu, Creeping Death, Fight Fire With Fire, Fade To Black, All 3 Unforgivens, The Struggle Within, My Friend Of Misery, Wherever I My Roam, The Day That Never Comes, All Nightmare Long, Spit Out The Bone, etc. The list goes on. Kirk has written many iconic solos!
Fun fact: kirk did not write most of the solos he has played and he tried to mimic daves solos from the no life 'til leather demos on kill em all and yet he couldn't do them
@@seu8541 Fun fact, you're wrong! By all means, keep believing bullshit if you want.
@@TheNothing6 nice of proving your point. Revolutionary if you will. How can I be as smart as you???
@@seu8541 For one, you can start by seeing an audiologist. Kirk and Dave sound nothing alike. There is no "mimic."
We all know Mustaine is the real winner here
@Anant Raman yes
Correct.
Kirk is easily win
@@ruatipachuau5693 no. Hahahaha
kirk has made better solos than mustaine, however mustaine is a composer genius
Maybe i'm crazy but for me Mechanix solo is memorable as Fade to Black solo.
Its your typical mustaine solo, lock into a 3 note per string pentatonic box and flail about
Marty Friedman for the win
Are you an idiot because Marty was not in Metallica
Kiko Loureiro wins
😆 no one got the joke
Marty God he doesn't include in this fight
marty was the main driving force that gave perfection to megadeath, otherwishe we would have never been able to hear megadeath any near to metallica.
Crazy cheers🍻🔌⚡️🧲⚡️🎸🌪⚡️👍
Notice how easily Kirk learned and improved all of Dave's kill em all solos. He didn't want to mindlessly shred. Listen to all of the song-stealing parts in between the shredding. Kirk is so much better overall as a guitarist. Repeating thrash licks over and over faster doesn't make someone a better guitarist.
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Being memorable much more important than being technical
…. You guys come up w any excuse to defend kirks playing, “ Oh Dave Plays Too Fast “ go listen to another genre of music u little bitch
Acting like Dave cant be slow either… clearly u dont listen to megadeth buddy but okay u are entitled to ur own shit opinion
In term of technical there are thousands of 80s guitar who would beat the shit out the dave ass.
Kirk ruled the generation because he know how to catch impress overall common people. So many great youtubers guitars are huge fan of Metallica still today. That proves Kirk is greater than Dave no matter he is less technical than Mustain. If I m compelled Offcourse i would take Megadeth in term of Marty's flavour.
The fact you even have to compare the frontman who plays rhythms writes all the music and sings to Kirk who had little to no say in the songwriting (we know it was James Lars and cliff before his passing) says enough.
Kirk wrote more than cliff
Fade to black is the best solo ive ever heard in my life
Kirk makes the solos an enjoyable journey and fit in with the band
Both of them are some of my favorite guitar players ever but imma have to go with Kirk just cause he influence me the most but other than that they both have their style and it works
Jam boys and girls pick up your guitar and have fun that's what it's all about and that's what these two guys would absolutely enjoy us to relic in. 😎🎶🤫🎸
Kirk: solos melodicos, mucho Wah, y mas memorables.
Dave: solos mas rápidos que los de Kirk, mas "sucios" (que no quiere decir malo sino mas bien caracteristico de dave), tiende a seguir un patron repetitivo que da un buen resultado.
Me encantan ambos guitarristas de hecho ambos son mis inspiraciones en los solos del Metal aunque debo admitir que ambos tienen sus falencias como sus virtudes.
I would agree
Muy buen comentario. Dave es muy sucio y repetitivo. Me da risa como mezclaste cosas fallencias y virtudes, que no se entiende si mucho wah es bueno o malo jajaja
@@AspergerL todo un extremo es malo. Esta bien los solos con Wah pero repetir la misma formula y exagerarlo eso no esta bien. XD
3:33 This solo alone is enough to prove to me that Kirk is a far more memorable lead guitarist... at least in my opinion... I cannot think of a more melodic yet intense (emotionally) solo... It's almost as if the guitar is crying.
Dave is the more technically sound player but kirks solos definitely had more attitude.
As good as Kirk was, Dave has always been one of if not the greatest guitarist in all of thrash metal, and he easily beats kirk almost without challenge
Each other are E minor pentatonic addicted ... Are similar xD
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Dave mustain forever🤘🤘🤘🤘
Yes
Ketika kalian meributkan siapa yang lebih baik diantara keduanya. Kirk & Dave sedang minum kopi dan menertawakan kalian.
OMG! You didn’t included “Poisonous Shadows” Intro Solo..that solo destroys all of Kirk’s ones.
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Not even close 😂
I love both but I prefer as a guitarist Dave!!! He is amazing!
Epic guitar solo dave mustein
Check out My Last Words solo... ;)
Love Megadeth !!! But Metallica is unearthly the most perfect band. Slayer is cool if you one the one trick pony evil sound. Metallica is like Metal mixed with Pink Floyd mixed with classical and lyrics everyone can relate too as Hetfield is a genius. YOU CANT BEAT KIRKS ABILITY TO WRITE MEANINGFUL SOLOS. HIS PLAYING IS FN AWESOME AND I LOVE THE MISTAKES HE SOMETIMES MAKES OR STRANGE SOUNDS CAUSE IT MAKES IT EVEN FN BETTER. KIRK IS MY TOP 5 FOR WRITING MOVING SOLOS AND LOVE THE WAY HE SOUNDS MORE THAN LOVE IT ITS ROCKS THE EARTH. Sorry Dave is amazing but Metallica aren't human theyre aliens.
\m/ Metallica forever
@King Nereus ill check those albums out again but Slayer always kinda has the same vibe like tool. Metallica the good Metallica gives a lot of styles and influences
Metallica sucks bruh. Everything before the black album was great
@Brody Oxford i have 13 likes and well thats just like your opinion man
@@CDAW_45 yeah i have to agree the early stuff was the true Metallica
Fast like Dave or slow like Kirk?
Dave was kooler.
Оба хороши. Каждый по своему.
I think mustaine writes great solos for his genre, who needs slow solos if you play thrash metal?
Kirk es impresionante, muy buenos solos, Dave es bueno también pero mas para los riffs.
Mustaine es una bestia técnica, de los dos es por mucho el guitarrista más rápido y más amo del Shredding pero Hammett Por poco diría que tiene el mejor tono además de más Feeling y sentimiento apesar de que tanto le hechen en cara su abuso de la Whammy bar
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Dave has more technical skill and speed, but I think Kirk puts more soul into it.
Kirk has the physical style for a lead guitarist but his solos are just random bits and not too organized. Not in a good way. Dave is just a better guitarist musicaly. I know the millions of albums metallica has sold wont show that but it's clear to me that mustaine is just better. Deth is one of my favorite bands. I love metallica as well. But dave clearly just better
This argument is like asking what's a better truck. Ford or Chevy. No matter the choice there will be an argument. I will say this, Dave getting booted from Metallica was the best thing to happen in the metal world.
For sure.
...and the winner is Kirk Hammett, clap of applause ladies and gentlemen, lol. I love Kirks style, he's humble as can he can be.
the two are identical in the use of pentatonic phrases, well, this was one of the characteristics why james liked kirk's way of playing, the detail is that kirk abuses the wah wah a lot, for that reason he is often criticized
Yeah, dave is shredding like a psycho, but I can't remember any of his solos. He's just shredding without feeling. Davy plays better and we all see this, but that wah wah guy makes better solos
BINGO and thats why i dont love Dave
Wah wah guyhahahaha
You clearly haven’t listened too much of Megadeth if you think his solos aren’t memorable. Holy wars and 5 magics solos are literally legendary solos, and far more memorable than anything kirk ever did.
@@thedude-jb7wx that’s why you’re an id iot.
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there is no comparison for me. Dave has such a better feel and sound, his articulation and sound is way more clean, he plays through the changes instead of against them, even when he uses pentatonics it makes sense cause he is respecting the vibe of the song, many megadeth sings have that bluesy jazzy feel to them. I just think Dave is probably one of the biggest genius of metal music, i can hear in his music a very high level of music knowledge specially regarding harmonic choices and even groove changes.
Kirk just sounds like a bad shredder to me, i dont dislike his pentatonic stuff, its just the context in which he chooses to play it and tbh after watching a bunch of docs showing how metallica construct there music, kirk is very limited creatively. Still its all about taste, im a jazz musician and i tend to value different things... and no complex is not better, better is better, therefor Dave is the man.
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