GOLF: Green Reading Basics With David Orr - Part 1

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  • Green Reading Basics 101 With David Orr
    See Part 2 of this session here: • GOLF: Green Reading Ba...
    It was an honor to film with David Orr at his home course, Pine Needles Lodge and Golf Club in Southern Pines, NC.
    David Orr is one of the leading putting coaches in the world. His teaching method is based on research, not on theory. ‘Never guess what you can measure’ is one of his key philosophies. David’s research and teaching protocol led him to the PGA Tour where he’s worked with world-class players such as Justin Rose and Suzann Pettersen. Check out www.flatsticka... to get access to David’s personal, online putting academy and the absolute putting gold he shares there.
    In this video David and I are going right to the foundation of good putting - GREEN READING! In this first part of my two-part fundamental lesson with David we tackle how to determine slope and break and the skills you need to focus on - read, speed, line THEN aim - to improve your putting performance.
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  • @davidbesterman7289
    @davidbesterman7289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. These David Orr putting videos are some of the best videos on putting that I have watched. Thanks

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, David! He's great!

  • @garygribbell4012
    @garygribbell4012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched the series with D Orr and took it to heart. After playing my first round, I feel my stroke is very comfortable and distance control is improved and will continue to follow this process to adhere to more applications. I have followed the book "Perfect Putting" by Horton Smith for many years. Written in 1961 it is out of print, but avail. from used book sources. This may be the origin of straight back putting, and emphasizes that and feel. You might find this book interesting for reference.

  • @jackbowman4788
    @jackbowman4788 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love that David gave credit to Geoff Mangum about head position. I miss Geoff’s wisdom .
    But great video thanks to Eric and David

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👊
      Thanks Jack!

  • @mhp1298
    @mhp1298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simple description...fantastic video!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you! David is great!

    • @garyashcrroft7605
      @garyashcrroft7605 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great video, just dragged out a bit.

  • @ww1grandson479
    @ww1grandson479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid, my putting will improve. I understood all that. Pre and pro routines. Cool!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Hope it helps!

  • @menevetsny
    @menevetsny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've attended Aimpoint clinics and still picked up some things here. Although that speaks to my memory rather than the quality of the clinics. Always be learning.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! Love it...appreciate you watching! Hope it helps!

  • @PLA5207
    @PLA5207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent conceptualization principles.

  • @andrewkenningley4555
    @andrewkenningley4555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really good information , i will be trying this and i might start holing some of them longer puts, there is so much to learn about putting, i must of mist 5, 6 foot birdies opportunities last week just from miss reading the put , more of these vids please .

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Andrew! Hope it helps....more to come with David!!

  • @steviesynapse
    @steviesynapse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was just excellent Eric, superbly explained by David Orr!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Steve! Appreciate it--David is great!

  • @bretwells7487
    @bretwells7487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Cant wait for the next one

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Bret! ME too :)

  • @KallRamanathan
    @KallRamanathan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks! Looking forward to part 2 😊

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Kall! Coming up soon!

  • @wmbishop22
    @wmbishop22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great instruction as usual! Hope to get up north for a lesson this year!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Billy! Appreciate it my friend! Would love to have ya!

  • @kennethkernen7031
    @kennethkernen7031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is that read he does with his hand at 12:12? Really love the video and appreciate the solid information on how to think on the green.

  • @prospetiva3d
    @prospetiva3d 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is super informative.. like attending a class! Thanks for this content!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      :) Thanks for being with us, my friend!

  • @Jonwoo41
    @Jonwoo41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked the video, but is he just recommending golfers use Aimpoint/Aimpoint express? I kind of got that feeling from the video. The use of the putter shat to verify your line is some I will put into my routine for sure.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Jonathan-thanks!
      Yes-big picture the best thing to do would be learning Aimpoint from somewhere near you.
      If you are going to invest the time and energy to improve that's the most efficient and best use of your time...takes the guessing out of play!
      More to come on this in part 2!

  • @seniorswing8441
    @seniorswing8441 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it permitted to measure the slope by feet if doing so will step on the intended line of the next player, assumed his ball is near to yours?

  • @daniel80111
    @daniel80111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Random question but are you allowed to walk over the line you are putting on when using aimpoint? Noticed when you were walking the line to check the slope that you were standing on the line of the left to right putt. Thanks!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Along side it

    • @gunghogolf
      @gunghogolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, under the new USGA rules of golf, you can touch or walk on your putting line and even pat down spike marks with your putter. AimPoint express practitioners typically straddle their putting line when feeling the slope with their feet; alternatively you can stand to the side, but sometimes that will give you a different read.
      See www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/touching-the-line-of-play-on-a-putting-green.html

  • @jrose7381
    @jrose7381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Over/under how many times Eric says “yup” or “got it” ? 55?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol how about it...brutal! I thought the same thing when I saw this :) Will work on lessening this next time!

    • @jrose7381
      @jrose7381 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CogornoGolf jus fukn with u. In a video I was on years ago I said “um” about a thousand times. Haha

  • @kvishal001
    @kvishal001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    real gem at 15:20

  • @SavetheWater1
    @SavetheWater1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah

  • @joeperez3520
    @joeperez3520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tried this several years ago and could never get the hang of estimating the "Percentage" of slope. I bought the Aim Point DVD, TWO electronic levels that could measure percentage of slope (big one for the range, small one to keep in the bag), and no matter how many afternoons I spent just standing on the practice green, estimating the slope, then looking down at the level, I could never come close to consistency. I don't think this is something that you will get the hang of in just a few weeks, and may take MONTHS or longer. For me, it was NEVER, and I'm a fairly good putter.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback and your experiences, Joe! Perhaps not for everyone...all good...just have to find a way that works for you!
      I have worked with many students who have learned Aimpoint and they love it and perform much better!
      Different ways to get the job done!

    • @joeperez3520
      @joeperez3520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eric Cogorno Golf I have wanted Aim Point to work, hence buying two levels and spending all that time on the putting green. Now that I’ve joined a golf club that gives me unlimited use of the practice facilities, only a matter of time before I’m back out there with the levels. 😄

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :)

  • @sergiomartin2007
    @sergiomartin2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there any alternative to "sensing" break with your feet? I have tried it several times when Aimpoint first came out, must lack sensors below my ankles ):

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Sergio!
      For sure...are you able to SEE slope with your eyes? That works as well!

    • @sergiomartin2007
      @sergiomartin2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CogornoGolf Porcentage wise, not enough. If you break the putt in 3 areas: face/path at impact, speed and read, let´s say porcentages of success are likely 95/70/40 respectively. Frustrating.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would find a good putting coach to work with in person to find the best solution for you!

  • @RogerFoxwellHypnotherapy
    @RogerFoxwellHypnotherapy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info from these putting videos but the instant, "got it" "gotcha" " yep" the second each new point is explained seems to interrupt ones' thinking process as the brain is working out the new information. For me giving a fraction more time would really help otherwise its feels like having your thoughts interrupted lol.
    Thanks anyway, learning a lot.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry about that....when I saw that back I found it annoying myself!
      Thanks for the feedback! Hope all is well.

    • @RogerFoxwellHypnotherapy
      @RogerFoxwellHypnotherapy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your reply Eric. Keep the videos coming and stay well

  • @momof4darlings
    @momof4darlings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💯

  • @barrywiss7146
    @barrywiss7146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see a lesson with video and feedback?

  • @stanmans
    @stanmans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys. and GALS

  • @deonpersaud8502
    @deonpersaud8502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Too much technical jargon. Haven't learned anything new. Speed of putt is most important. Once you can be fairly consistent with putt speed, then you can pick your line knowing the speed.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback, Deon!

  • @wondermare
    @wondermare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to part 2! Bring it!

  • @temporarystranger95
    @temporarystranger95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting how the pro’s who use the aim point method are not considered the best putters on Tour, but are often the weakest. You don’t see the best putters on Tour using this methodology.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @bretwells7487
      @bretwells7487 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because only Adam Scott and Hunter Mayhan use this method. Please... a lot of tour players use this method when they cannot identify the line.

  • @ballerbilliards
    @ballerbilliards 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Husky Digital level is so 2009. There are free Clinometer apps for smartphones that read in % slope, and if you get one, you’ll always have your level in your pocket. Pre-round putting practice should include a few minutes of calibration for both your feet and for green speed (which affects how much you bend your elbow when using the finger method of Aimpoint Express). Finding a perfect 2% slope putt for calibration purposes is quick and easy.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love it! Great idea...wasn't familiar with that, will look into it!

    • @menevetsny
      @menevetsny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've compared readings with bubble level apps and a Husky and got different readings. It's been awhile, maybe the apps have improved. Plus the digital level is longer, although phones have gotten larger. You don't even have to download an app now, there's a level in the compass app that's part of iOS if you're using an iPhone.

    • @ballerbilliards
      @ballerbilliards 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      menevetsny I use the Clinometer app on an iPhone XS Max, and it’s spot on with digital levels. I just took a look at the iOS compass app, and while there is a little floating crosshair in the middle to indicate level, it has no readout of % slope, so useless for Aimpoint Express training.

    • @menevetsny
      @menevetsny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ballerbilliards Good to know. The last time I used the app was when I had an iPhone 6. I have an XS, so will compare when the weather gets better.

    • @johnzell30
      @johnzell30 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ron Hombaker thanks! Downloaded the Clinometer to my iPhone and have a dumb question ... can you stand and aim the floating crosshair or is it better to squat down to aim at the hole in order to get a better slope % reading?

  • @ScratchArkkitehti
    @ScratchArkkitehti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DIGITAL LEVEL > Slope apps.
    A phones dimension isnt wide enough to get a perceptible slope. Otherwise you could get a read out difference of up to 3.5%.
    Orrs spot on.

  • @Rd-bi7vr
    @Rd-bi7vr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But subtle slopes are not easy tojudge by the feet

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  ปีที่แล้ว

      That skill can be trained in :)

  • @hickorydragon8114
    @hickorydragon8114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Accrosst

  • @vichajanviriya7908
    @vichajanviriya7908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Putting lessons never make easy.

  • @Ken-rt6sr
    @Ken-rt6sr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I request you don't day "got it" every 20 seconds... it's very distracting

    • @Ken-rt6sr
      @Ken-rt6sr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just allow your guest to speak without the "yeh", "got it", "love that"

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Ken 100% agreed----sorry about that!

  • @davidstewart1943
    @davidstewart1943 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too basic.

  • @KeepinItReal890
    @KeepinItReal890 ปีที่แล้ว

    old dude just started golfing. whatever