Hearing that "sOrRy BuT yOu NeEd ExPeRiEnCe" when the team proved that they were more than capable of was really heartbreaking. I can only imagine the frustration.
WB either didn't want them, just thought about it the requirement, didn't have faith (even though the project look really good and didn't test the game), really didn't want them and came up with a bullish excuse, or were stupid and wasted the developers' time. Like f_cking really?!
I think it's a sad case of the people who had the option of funding the game not understanding what makes a game good in the first place. If any person who had the option of funding this spent even an hour on the weekend playing any kind of game they'd understand that this was worth investing in. There's been so many countless projects shot down despite showing promise because the industry is plagued with people who don't understand the product they are responsible for mass producing.
That's just one of the fucked up mentalities in employment. Companies and businesses want people with experience, but how the fuck do you get experience without getting a job first?
If you have a team that pitched their project to you 3 times, accompanied by the original creator of the franchise who enthusiastically endorses the said team, and this team brings you a fully fledged demo of their project, improved and perfected each time they pitch, and it actually looks & plays really good, and on top of that, the team is eager to jump through all the hoops you're presenting to them... greenlight this shit & let it happen, goddamn it! They've proven they're not only willing, they're able to fucking deliver. What the fuck is wrong with your heads, WB? Jesus Christ, I can't. I just can't, this is one of the most heartbreaking stories I've heard in gamedev. Damn...
probably boomer suits that only hires you if you have "previous work experience", even if your actual experience and education is even better than a guy that worked for years in the same shit.
Yeah, but you need to understand. They haven't made any other games... except for the one they are pitching which was basically done and would have been done before if WB didn't tell them to stop in the first place. Translation: "We don't want you to do this, how many times do we have to say: No?" -WB
In the most cursed Warner Bros. IP brand synergy move I can think of, MK's 30th anniversary will be celebrated with Scorpion added to MultiVersus, alongside Alex from "A Clockwork Orange" and Mahoney from "Police Academy" for some reason.
Screw that. It's the 30th anniversary of the series. Anything less than something really special just won't do. I want something like a MK9 remaster, or a Tag Mode add-on and graphics update patch for MKX, or a complete overhaul of MK11 alongside an apology for screwing up MK11 so badly. Sadly I know none of these things will happen.
You know you gotta had to hand to Ed Boon for supporting these projects. He doesn't snub these indie and would-be developers and humble modders to get their shot. It's just the execs that are out of touch. I can't even imagine how much Ed Boon himself empathized with these potentially great projects being binned. He may be a crazy uncle, but he's that supportive crazy uncle who's got your back as long as you have that bright goal ahead of you.
I mean Ed Boon is one of the few old school developers left still in a bigger AAA studio. He knows the struggle of coming up from nothing and trying to build a studio and trying to pitch games. Something all these executives would never understand.
Ed Boon for years wanted to make this and a Shaolin Monks remake + sequel, for years now, and the only one truly in the way is WB. WB pretty much made MK the most profitable fighting franchise, but with so many caveats to get there... I know it may be impossible at this point, but I kinda wish NetherRealm would go solo, or go to a different publisher. Even when it almost looked like WB might sell it's game division due to AT&T's restructuring, they don't wanna lose that cash cow.
I think their mentality is to split up the old character releases for larger nostalgia cashgrabs, and it has a side effect of saving workpower. Sure, we could get the OG cast of 1, 2, or 3 with the respective stages all at once in a nice and tidy package with a set price. Or... Netherrealm and WB could release half the roster at launch and tug on nostalgia heartstrings for the DLC characters (Mk 10 and 11 are guilty of this)
The sad part is WB used to be a respectable publisher in the PS360 era. They released banger after banger that were polished fun experiences day 1. Everything changed when the PS4 came out. Arkham Knight being rushed was the first sign they had gone evil.
I feel like a modern Shaolin Monks game will likely never happen at this point. Both because they're stuck being WB's cash cow and NRS probably doesn't know how to make a game like that anymore, seeing as it's been so long since they did a similar project like SM. Really, if I want anything from NRS, it's to focus on improving animations all around and if possible, not focus so much on gore as a selling point. I don't wanna make it sound like I'm PC, but if you know of NRS' behind the scene stuff, then you know about the crunch and PTSD from researching fatalities. I just feel like that stuff's not worth it considering how much the devs suffer for it when at the end of the day, it's only really there to be controversial and splash the headlines. It doesn't really add much substance to their games, personally speaking.
@@EZOnTheEyes To be fair, aside from Tekken and Guilty Gear (GG1's cast, because they're all in Strive), I don't know a fighting game that doesn't save some of its fan favorites for DLC later on. I do wish NRS took an approach simillar to Street Fighter, Tekken and Guilty Gear when it comes to having some of the DLC be brand new characters instead of always being returning ones. Makes the lineup less predictable. Heck, some of GG's and SFV's newcomers have had a lot of spotlight and seem to push the plot/setting forward in interesting ways for the future, meanwhile when NRS does it, most newcomers end up as jobbers (Kotal, oof) and they just focus back to the OG. Looking at you, MK11.
I feel so bad for the devs of that fans game. I almost cried in frustration when they were told they never shipped a game before. Their version looked so fucking good, man.
@@Krysnha thats just a catch 22 excuse. like an entry level job requiring previous experience. to get the job you need experience, to get experience you need to get the job. Its all circular logic as an excuse that they just didnt want to fund it.
“We Can’t Trust the development of such an important project to a team without any completed game titles” A bunch of years later “Who the hell are Player First Games?” Yeah they have veterans in the field but it’s ironic that statement WB made.
@@thecunninlynguist Yeah. What kind of crap is that? Maybe the WB execs then and now are different. Then again, we’d likely have more Midway revivals by now.
Proceeds to make a MK game demo showing their competence for then WB to say they havent completed any games... cmon they would have completed if you let them complete it WB suits people be stupid asf!
@@weirdotzero7065 Wait, they actually have worked on games? I don't know if it shows concern because that means they have some experience to say the least And no matter how shitty the game they once did, people have to start somewhere. I mean, how many dev that started as a cute games or anthropomorphic platformer to brutal and gritty games
“We Can’t Trust the development of such an important project to a team without any completed game titles” It literally says that the team of the HD Remake never made a completed game title before. The devs at PFG did work on God Of War, Disney, Riot Games...
I'm not even that big into MK, but that fan project that used 3D models looked REALLY fucking good. WB is actually stupid for turning those devs down because that would have made them BANK.
Or like the medical marijuana industry where the dispensaries dont want to hire you unless ya got previous dispo experience....real head scratcher. How can I have experience if I am never let in the industry??!😂😅
Game : take a shot everytime someone says Blind Squirrel Studio is bad despite their work on Mass Effect Legendary Edition being phenomenal, and completely ignoring the fact that SEGA can't keep their own stuff like source codes and assets to save their own lives.
@@ArpeggioPegasusMusic except Sega gave BS everything, they had every single asset from Colors, the biggest evidence being the cutscene data being hidden in the files, when the Wii version uses prerendered cutscenes. Also, I don't know how true this is, but I heard Colors Ultimate was supposed to release in 2020, but ended up releasing in late 2021
I got to admit, I kinda assumed we wouldn't get a remake of the original trilogy mostly because that's what the reboot was threading over. That said, a remaster of Shaolin Monks would be cool as an anniversary title - it's the one thing they haven't tried to replicate in any shape since.
Bruh this makes me so mad, imagine doing everything possible, not giving up, even getting comments suggesting a future greenlight after working hard to prove yourselves and professionalism to this massive company just to hear a "Nah, sorry."
If a game has anything to do with EA: EA Happuned. If a game has anything to do with Bethesda: Bethesda Happuned. If a game has anything to do with Warner Bros: Warner Bros Happuned.
Don't forget Sega. They used to be good until they started ignoring older IPs for garbage Sonic games every five years. And he's my favorite character!
Interesting that as much as WB milked the nostalgia of the original trilogy, they would go to such lengths to back away from or just plain out cancel these Remakes... Make it make sense...
"This shit is too expensive and it's taking too long!" lmao that's not wrong. The project was originally planned for less than 6 months before MK9 was released. Who would've thought it'd be possible to recreate 3 games in such short time? We did get an extension but only for couple months lol. I wish Ed Boon shared his side of the story of the cancellation. All we got was secondhand news from our producer someone didn't have too much faith in the project and it wasn't from WB.
Let me set this straight, they gift wrap and present a pretty functional build of a remake of the first mortal Kombat done entirely as a passion project and they said no because they didn't have any other game published????? ARE THEY NUTS???
Lifelong MK fan here, It was your What happened on Special forces that first drew me to your Channel, a couple of years and its one of my favourites. Thanks Matt!
Speaking of anniversary in 2022... Next year is also 25th years anniversary of FromSoftware's Armored Core franchise. It could be cool if we had Wha' Happun' or some retrospective video.
Matty! You REALLY did your homework this time my guy!! Loved all the inside jokes for all us MK nerds. Also good to see some of that lost concept art!!
As someone that grew up with shareware, *particularly* shareware that went on to evolve into some giant franchisees that we still love today, it's mind-bending to hear that a small-yet-dedicated team would be turned down under the aegis of 'oh you've done great work but you really need a big company to vouch for you.'
They need to bring back Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy. One of the coolest games of the 2000s. Damn, it was so good. Adema and Cold need to be there too.
You know the original title of that was going to be ESPionage? I remember on techTV /way/ back in the day when they had a show that was nothing but game trailers and it was on there. I agree though, would love to see a Psi-Ops remake.
Speaking of Blind Squirrel Entertainment, it would be interesting to hear stuff about them because apparently, they're internally messy and screwed up and keeps a facade of being a good company or something.
their ports of Sonic Colors and WWE 2K18 on Switch are really invocative of how they are ran as a company, but also invocative of how for some reason, publishers look at them and go, YEAH, GO AND HANDLE OUR IPS
@@bulletchains8205 Well, aside from 2k18 Switch, they made BioShock: The Collection, Sunset Overdrive PC, Borderlands: Game of the Year Enhanced Edition and Mass Effect Legendary Edition, which were mostly good ports and remasters. Can't completely blame Sega for thinking that they had a good track record.
@@spongebobfan78 i mean, the bioshock collection was fun, i played it a bunch, its just as a switch owner, dealing with their ports of games i just kinda go "UH OH, BlindSquirrel!!!"
@@spongebobfan78 Bioshock remasters aren't completely bad, but they are a mixed bag... A lot of textures are better than in the original but missing a lot of atmospheric effects of the original game.
Seeing Hydro Thunder and Rush 2049 in that legacy IP part of the video just... WB just look at how successful Cruis'n Blast was and that there's talks for the original trilogy to be bought back out in HD. As in, release a compilation that has all of the Midway classic racing games from the 90's, use the arcade versions source code and release arcade perfect conversions with online play.
I'm once again commenting to say how perfect the Fabula Nova Crystalis (a.k.a. the whole Final Fantasy XIII pantheon mess) would be for this show. It's probably the biggest-budget example of a developer counting their chickens before they hatch, and it took over a decade for them to finally put it all behind them. It damn near killed the franchise.
@@NobodyInTheVoid Thank God we are past that. Well, kind of. The FF7 compilation is technically still ongoing as we speak. But at least that doesn't seem to be the direction that FF16 is going for, as far as we are aware.
That wasn't even counting the chickens before they hatched. That was counting the damn chickens before you even got the eggs in the first place with how early they announced those projects.
I've never played Mugens and I'm in total awe at the creativity of some of the ones I'm seeing. The one with the life bars swinging on chains that follow the screen, that's a chef's kiss.
The fact that WB thought this would be too expensive to make us total and utter bs… they absolutely have the budget and resources for this project. They are just too ignorant to realize the fact that OG MK fans would be more than delighted to purchase a remaster of the first 3 games. I still hope one day this gets made.
If I recall correctly, the last time any Midway games besides MK were given a glance by WB was their inclusion in Lego Dimensions alongside the Gamer Kid character. Simple arcade ports, but you could have Ethan Hunt drive the car from Spy Hunter, so that's cool at least.
Holy shit man when you said how WB at the end pretty much gave them the middle finger by saying that they haven't completed any games despite completing the MK1 portion of the remake made me want to fly over to the HQ and just go burn the whole building down (after evacuating the employees that had nothing to do with that decision).
With how much bad publicity Warner Bros has gotten since the merger with Discovery, yeah they shouldn’t be trusted. Look how much the animation has suffered this year
I refuse to believe that Mortal Kombat came out nearly 30 years ago. I was 10....So now on top of me having to spin the age verification wheel like the Price is Right MK is reminding me im old as fuck now.
I wonder why they just didn't upscale and "paint" over the sprites? Capcom did that with Street Fighter HD Remix and it looked great, played pretty much the same as the original games. In the case of MK, just have the sprites look photo realistic. No need for a full-blown remake. Then WB couldn't gripe about the budget.
My first games were Armageddon and MK9, which both host a near complete roster of the original games. I've always dreamed of another MK event like Armageddon, putting the entire roster together again. (Maybe just in 2D this time!) Oh well, until then Mugen romhacks will have me covered :)
Matt... I always forget how much this show breaks my heart sometimes and here's one of them. Those set pics were amazing and it didn't happen??? I didn't know about this at all and I really wish I still didn't 😕
The fact that WB simply haven't release a MK Shaolin Monks remastered with online co-op is pretty sad. Oh, and for the 30th anniversary of MK, WB and NRS released a fucking p2w mobile game, now THAT'S sad
I'm not even a Mortal Kombat fan and this still pisses me off. A passionate dev team had a nearly finished build of an MK1 remake ready to go, it looked fantastic, and even after finding a development studio to help assist in the game's creation, AND the approval someone who helped CREATE THE FUCKING FRANCHISE, WarnerBros STILL said "nO eXPeRiEnCe", despite the fact that they got a development studio on board the project to help with _exactly that._ This shit drives me up the wall in _any_ industry, let alone games.
Oldest trick in the book. Test the waters with a project, make the other company do all the legwork, tell them no thanks, have them turn in what they made cause you own the license, shelve it and release it a later time. WB is finally developing their gaming portfolio and they'll probably wait till they have a more competent internal dev structure and do it themselves.
Considering Ash Williams was in Poker Night at the Inventory 2 by Telltale Games (before they went bankrupt), I wonder if his cameo was tied to the MK11 cancelled appearance? It also makes sense when Brock Samson from Ventures Bros was added since Telltale games (from what I heard) wanted to make a venture bros game before it fell through. Although if it's just because tf2 and adult swim had contacts back then, it would make more sense.
As a game developer and 3d modeler you have no idea how fucking infuriating is the "sorry but we wont be moving on as you have no released games" quote fucking is. WB just got into my worst studio list for good after what they did with those guys. Really really awful.
Warner Brothers should really just remake the Mortal Kombat Trilogy that was on the PS and N64 instead of remaking each MK arcade game separately honestly. Oh, and make it actually good this time, and not a glitchy mess.
So the people who own the indie passion project Mortal Kombat, turn down an indie passion project which is a remake of the indie passion project Mortal Kombat...
30 years. Wow. I remember, after the first game came out. I was at my grandmother's house, sitting in her rocking chair, studying the game manual to the first game when the local news announced that Brandon Lee had just died.
I squinted too hard and noticed that Scorpion and Sub-Zero were holding hands... 15:42 ...why? Was this for some kind of tag-battle thing? Why would Scorpion threaten his nemesis while lovingly holding hands with him at the same time? ...was this to be an MK dating simulator?
@@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome I guess for a game like MK there's not much else you can do to stay edgy... It was a matter of time before having 'sexualities' as finishing moves.
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Hearing that "sOrRy BuT yOu NeEd ExPeRiEnCe" when the team proved that they were more than capable of was really heartbreaking. I can only imagine the frustration.
That's the system evil has created
That's not even the main problem. The main kick in the dick is that if experience was an issue, they could've fucking said that the first time!
WB either didn't want them, just thought about it the requirement, didn't have faith (even though the project look really good and didn't test the game), really didn't want them and came up with a bullish excuse, or were stupid and wasted the developers' time. Like f_cking really?!
I think it's a sad case of the people who had the option of funding the game not understanding what makes a game good in the first place. If any person who had the option of funding this spent even an hour on the weekend playing any kind of game they'd understand that this was worth investing in. There's been so many countless projects shot down despite showing promise because the industry is plagued with people who don't understand the product they are responsible for mass producing.
That's just one of the fucked up mentalities in employment. Companies and businesses want people with experience, but how the fuck do you get experience without getting a job first?
If you have a team that pitched their project to you 3 times, accompanied by the original creator of the franchise who enthusiastically endorses the said team, and this team brings you a fully fledged demo of their project, improved and perfected each time they pitch, and it actually looks & plays really good, and on top of that, the team is eager to jump through all the hoops you're presenting to them... greenlight this shit & let it happen, goddamn it! They've proven they're not only willing, they're able to fucking deliver. What the fuck is wrong with your heads, WB? Jesus Christ, I can't. I just can't, this is one of the most heartbreaking stories I've heard in gamedev. Damn...
and then WB gave the project to BLIND SQUIRREL STUDIOS of all choices!
probably boomer suits that only hires you if you have "previous work experience", even if your actual experience and education is even better than a guy that worked for years in the same shit.
Yeah, but you need to understand. They haven't made any other games... except for the one they are pitching which was basically done and would have been done before if WB didn't tell them to stop in the first place.
Translation: "We don't want you to do this, how many times do we have to say: No?" -WB
@@siruno6024 Too fucking real as an IT.
It's purely business practice. I've heard this crap from executives many times.
The fact that it was "Too expensive" to remake a game that was super cheap hurts my brain...
Don’t ya just LOVE business???
Don't you just LOVE bad businesses?
Mk11 budget was pretty low
Means they were probably gonna go all out with those but probably got the NOPE from higher ups
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In the most cursed Warner Bros. IP brand synergy move I can think of, MK's 30th anniversary will be celebrated with Scorpion added to MultiVersus, alongside Alex from "A Clockwork Orange" and Mahoney from "Police Academy" for some reason.
Ngl, sounds kinda hype to fight Tom and Jerry and Steven Universe as frickin Scorpion.
They’re gonna have Scorpion fight new Multiversus OC:Pigeon Girl
What... Alex? Just...what...
Screw that. It's the 30th anniversary of the series. Anything less than something really special just won't do. I want something like a MK9 remaster, or a Tag Mode add-on and graphics update patch for MKX, or a complete overhaul of MK11 alongside an apology for screwing up MK11 so badly. Sadly I know none of these things will happen.
And Robin from Teen Titans Go! and probably Jimmy from ReAnimated/Out of Jimmy's Head.
You know you gotta had to hand to Ed Boon for supporting these projects. He doesn't snub these indie and would-be developers and humble modders to get their shot.
It's just the execs that are out of touch.
I can't even imagine how much Ed Boon himself empathized with these potentially great projects being binned. He may be a crazy uncle, but he's that supportive crazy uncle who's got your back as long as you have that bright goal ahead of you.
I mean Ed Boon is one of the few old school developers left still in a bigger AAA studio. He knows the struggle of coming up from nothing and trying to build a studio and trying to pitch games. Something all these executives would never understand.
Ed Boon for years wanted to make this and a Shaolin Monks remake + sequel, for years now, and the only one truly in the way is WB.
WB pretty much made MK the most profitable fighting franchise, but with so many caveats to get there... I know it may be impossible at this point, but I kinda wish NetherRealm would go solo, or go to a different publisher. Even when it almost looked like WB might sell it's game division due to AT&T's restructuring, they don't wanna lose that cash cow.
I think their mentality is to split up the old character releases for larger nostalgia cashgrabs, and it has a side effect of saving workpower. Sure, we could get the OG cast of 1, 2, or 3 with the respective stages all at once in a nice and tidy package with a set price. Or... Netherrealm and WB could release half the roster at launch and tug on nostalgia heartstrings for the DLC characters (Mk 10 and 11 are guilty of this)
The sad part is WB used to be a respectable publisher in the PS360 era. They released banger after banger that were polished fun experiences day 1. Everything changed when the PS4 came out. Arkham Knight being rushed was the first sign they had gone evil.
I feel like a modern Shaolin Monks game will likely never happen at this point. Both because they're stuck being WB's cash cow and NRS probably doesn't know how to make a game like that anymore, seeing as it's been so long since they did a similar project like SM.
Really, if I want anything from NRS, it's to focus on improving animations all around and if possible, not focus so much on gore as a selling point. I don't wanna make it sound like I'm PC, but if you know of NRS' behind the scene stuff, then you know about the crunch and PTSD from researching fatalities. I just feel like that stuff's not worth it considering how much the devs suffer for it when at the end of the day, it's only really there to be controversial and splash the headlines. It doesn't really add much substance to their games, personally speaking.
Has it been confirmed that WB gaming division is "safe" from the re-structuring, or if the re-structuring is still ongoing?
@@EZOnTheEyes To be fair, aside from Tekken and Guilty Gear (GG1's cast, because they're all in Strive), I don't know a fighting game that doesn't save some of its fan favorites for DLC later on. I do wish NRS took an approach simillar to Street Fighter, Tekken and Guilty Gear when it comes to having some of the DLC be brand new characters instead of always being returning ones. Makes the lineup less predictable. Heck, some of GG's and SFV's newcomers have had a lot of spotlight and seem to push the plot/setting forward in interesting ways for the future, meanwhile when NRS does it, most newcomers end up as jobbers (Kotal, oof) and they just focus back to the OG. Looking at you, MK11.
I feel so bad for the devs of that fans game. I almost cried in frustration when they were told they never shipped a game before. Their version looked so fucking good, man.
@@Krysnha BRUH it doesn't matter. Only the end product matters.
@@Krysnha thats just a catch 22 excuse. like an entry level job requiring previous experience. to get the job you need experience, to get experience you need to get the job. Its all circular logic as an excuse that they just didnt want to fund it.
@@Shiirow and thats why it's impossible to find work for a job you're passionate about today
“We Can’t Trust the development of such an important project to a team without any completed game titles”
A bunch of years later
“Who the hell are Player First Games?”
Yeah they have veterans in the field but it’s ironic that statement WB made.
@@thecunninlynguist Yeah. What kind of crap is that? Maybe the WB execs then and now are different. Then again, we’d likely have more Midway revivals by now.
Proceeds to make a MK game demo showing their competence for then WB to say they havent completed any games... cmon they would have completed if you let them complete it WB suits people be stupid asf!
@@thecunninlynguist I know man! That was FRUSTRATING!!!!!
@@weirdotzero7065 Wait, they actually have worked on games? I don't know if it shows concern because that means they have some experience to say the least
And no matter how shitty the game they once did, people have to start somewhere. I mean, how many dev that started as a cute games or anthropomorphic platformer to brutal and gritty games
“We Can’t Trust the development of such an important project to a team without any completed game titles”
It literally says that the team of the HD Remake never made a completed game title before.
The devs at PFG did work on God Of War, Disney, Riot Games...
Shoutout to Ed Boon for actually giving them the time of day and setting up a meeting. 99% of Studios would just settle for a cease and desist.
I'm not even that big into MK, but that fan project that used 3D models looked REALLY fucking good. WB is actually stupid for turning those devs down because that would have made them BANK.
"We can't trust a team without any completed game titles" is the equivalent of needing 5 years experience for an entry level job.
Yeah, I always hated that crap! LoL!
That should be abolished sometimes
Or like the medical marijuana industry where the dispensaries dont want to hire you unless ya got previous dispo experience....real head scratcher. How can I have experience if I am never let in the industry??!😂😅
TLDR: "...And then WB ruined everything."
Wow, WB really pulled the, "looking for entry level position, must have 10 years of experience" card, huh?
WB Games: "We love shelving our game IPs."
And hope one day you can talk about, Alone In The Dark (2008) or the movie version.
Alone in the Dark: Illumination would also be interesting, since they tried to stealth launch it on steam too
@@vladalexan oh crap, I forgot that game happened.
@@lexnoil I think almost everyone did tbh :))
that game is better left alone for good,it has nothing thats unique enough apart from the original game......
Shout out to the actresses that were Sonya, Kitana, etc. Damn
I'm a new fan who just finished binge watching this entire series and this is my fist episode I'm watching on day of release. I'm so excited!
Welcome the to community! He really is a great creator.
Same here!
I did the same thing a month or so ago when I found this channel lol
I came here to comment exactly this
Yeah Matt's an excellent TH-camr for video games. Stop skeletons from fighting is another good one if you are taking recommendations..
As a Sonic fan, hearing that an MK remake almost got Blind Squirrel’d sent shivers down my spine
They can be good, look at Mass Effect. The problem here was probably Sega giving them almost no time or money. Most probably both.
I feel ya man
Same here
Game : take a shot everytime someone says Blind Squirrel Studio is bad despite their work on Mass Effect Legendary Edition being phenomenal, and completely ignoring the fact that SEGA can't keep their own stuff like source codes and assets to save their own lives.
@@ArpeggioPegasusMusic except Sega gave BS everything, they had every single asset from Colors, the biggest evidence being the cutscene data being hidden in the files, when the Wii version uses prerendered cutscenes. Also, I don't know how true this is, but I heard Colors Ultimate was supposed to release in 2020, but ended up releasing in late 2021
@@ArpeggioPegasusMusic They fucked up porting XCOM 2. A game that's been ported to the fucking iPhone.
I got to admit, I kinda assumed we wouldn't get a remake of the original trilogy mostly because that's what the reboot was threading over. That said, a remaster of Shaolin Monks would be cool as an anniversary title - it's the one thing they haven't tried to replicate in any shape since.
15:40 if you squint really hard you can see scorpion and sub zero HOLDING HANDS
Bruh this makes me so mad, imagine doing everything possible, not giving up, even getting comments suggesting a future greenlight after working hard to prove yourselves and professionalism to this massive company just to hear a
"Nah, sorry."
If a game has anything to do with EA: EA Happuned.
If a game has anything to do with Bethesda: Bethesda Happuned.
If a game has anything to do with Warner Bros: Warner Bros Happuned.
Don't forget Sega. They used to be good until they started ignoring older IPs for garbage Sonic games every five years. And he's my favorite character!
Capcom, Sony and sigh Activision are often talked as well
Also Ubisoft. Theres a whole lot of game companies who should be shamed relentlessly
Only exception to the EA rule I can think of is Anthem.
im from the future, no content for 30th aniversery.....
I was waiting for a "What Happun?" on the Grand Theft Auto series.
But Mortal Kombat is one of my favorite franchises so I ain't disappointed. :)
If there's any game that needs it, it's the GTA Trilogy.
An HD remake using mo-cap and actually digitizing filmed actors with today's hi-res equipment would be epic. Expensive too, but still epic.
Interesting that as much as WB milked the nostalgia of the original trilogy, they would go to such lengths to back away from or just plain out cancel these Remakes...
Make it make sense...
So happy you covered this.
Also saddened you reminded me.
Just realized I was born the year of mortal kombat. Dope.
Don't think I didn't notice the KOF music in the background while talking about MK 👀
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Good taste!
"This shit is too expensive and it's taking too long!" lmao that's not wrong. The project was originally planned for less than 6 months before MK9 was released. Who would've thought it'd be possible to recreate 3 games in such short time? We did get an extension but only for couple months lol. I wish Ed Boon shared his side of the story of the cancellation. All we got was secondhand news from our producer someone didn't have too much faith in the project and it wasn't from WB.
Let me set this straight, they gift wrap and present a pretty functional build of a remake of the first mortal Kombat done entirely as a passion project and they said no because they didn't have any other game published????? ARE THEY NUTS???
The fun thing is Eyeballistic has a petition going to drum up support for a 4K remake of Mortal Kombst Trilogy right now. The story keeps on going.
Kerri Hoskins still looks great today.
Yeah she still cute as hell
[Shaggy:Like Get Over Here Man]
Bro shaggy is now in a fighting game now so
@@cringedefender5264 He was also at the beginning of MK Legends Battle of the Realms. Matthew Lillard even got in the end credits listing
It hurts to know how close we were to getting a remaster of the original games.
13:40 ow... that stings...
Here after announcement of MK 1
Lifelong MK fan here, It was your What happened on Special forces that first drew me to your Channel, a couple of years and its one of my favourites. Thanks Matt!
That 2nd story is so depressing. That team seemed to have a lot of heart on their project and WB just didn’t give them a chance
The specter of WB can just never stop cursing things into oblivion, can it?
Speaking of anniversary in 2022... Next year is also 25th years anniversary of FromSoftware's Armored Core franchise. It could be cool if we had Wha' Happun' or some retrospective video.
That would awesome. I use to love Armored Core.
I was obsessed with the demo of armored core. I loved slicing up robots with my robot.
I miss armour core 😢
I've asked 3 times before. I doubt he'll do it. 👍👍 if he reads your post and runs with it.
We all know what happened to Armored Core. Dark Souls blew up
Matty! You REALLY did your homework this time my guy!! Loved all the inside jokes for all us MK nerds. Also good to see some of that lost concept art!!
As someone that grew up with shareware, *particularly* shareware that went on to evolve into some giant franchisees that we still love today, it's mind-bending to hear that a small-yet-dedicated team would be turned down under the aegis of 'oh you've done great work but you really need a big company to vouch for you.'
Glad to see that Scorpion and Subzero would've gotten past their differences in that remake as they hold hands in that one.
They need to bring back Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy. One of the coolest games of the 2000s. Damn, it was so good. Adema and Cold need to be there too.
You know the original title of that was going to be ESPionage? I remember on techTV /way/ back in the day when they had a show that was nothing but game trailers and it was on there. I agree though, would love to see a Psi-Ops remake.
What really needs a remaster/remake is Shaolin Monks on the PS2, seriously one of the best 3D co-op brawler action games!
Agreed
Speaking of Blind Squirrel Entertainment, it would be interesting to hear stuff about them because apparently, they're internally messy and screwed up and keeps a facade of being a good company or something.
Really?
their ports of Sonic Colors and WWE 2K18 on Switch are really invocative of how they are ran as a company, but also invocative of how for some reason, publishers look at them and go, YEAH, GO AND HANDLE OUR IPS
@@bulletchains8205 Well, aside from 2k18 Switch, they made BioShock: The Collection, Sunset Overdrive PC, Borderlands: Game of the Year Enhanced Edition and Mass Effect Legendary Edition, which were mostly good ports and remasters. Can't completely blame Sega for thinking that they had a good track record.
@@spongebobfan78 i mean, the bioshock collection was fun, i played it a bunch, its just as a switch owner, dealing with their ports of games i just kinda go "UH OH, BlindSquirrel!!!"
@@spongebobfan78 Bioshock remasters aren't completely bad, but they are a mixed bag... A lot of textures are better than in the original but missing a lot of atmospheric effects of the original game.
Seeing Hydro Thunder and Rush 2049 in that legacy IP part of the video just...
WB just look at how successful Cruis'n Blast was and that there's talks for the original trilogy to be bought back out in HD.
As in, release a compilation that has all of the Midway classic racing games from the 90's, use the arcade versions source code and release arcade perfect conversions with online play.
Ah the old "you need experience to get experience"
Can't get your foot in the door until somebody opens it for you !
I'm once again commenting to say how perfect the Fabula Nova Crystalis (a.k.a. the whole Final Fantasy XIII pantheon mess) would be for this show. It's probably the biggest-budget example of a developer counting their chickens before they hatch, and it took over a decade for them to finally put it all behind them. It damn near killed the franchise.
You almost have to admire how far they dug their heels into the ground for that series.
@@NobodyInTheVoid Thank God we are past that. Well, kind of. The FF7 compilation is technically still ongoing as we speak. But at least that doesn't seem to be the direction that FF16 is going for, as far as we are aware.
That wasn't even counting the chickens before they hatched. That was counting the damn chickens before you even got the eggs in the first place with how early they announced those projects.
Yet another series project handed to Nomura that he can't deliver.
Why is he even the go to guy at Square Enix?
I've never played Mugens and I'm in total awe at the creativity of some of the ones I'm seeing. The one with the life bars swinging on chains that follow the screen, that's a chef's kiss.
Been dying to hear this! It's so sad, I feel for the fan developers who jumped through so many hoops.
Just put Grove Street Studios on the future remasters. They never disappoint.
The fact that WB thought this would be too expensive to make us total and utter bs… they absolutely have the budget and resources for this project. They are just too ignorant to realize the fact that OG MK fans would be more than delighted to purchase a remaster of the first 3 games. I still hope one day this gets made.
I’m from the future. It’s called Mortal Kombat 1. Yes, literally.
If I recall correctly, the last time any Midway games besides MK were given a glance by WB was their inclusion in Lego Dimensions alongside the Gamer Kid character. Simple arcade ports, but you could have Ethan Hunt drive the car from Spy Hunter, so that's cool at least.
Holy shit man when you said how WB at the end pretty much gave them the middle finger by saying that they haven't completed any games despite completing the MK1 portion of the remake made me want to fly over to the HQ and just go burn the whole building down (after evacuating the employees that had nothing to do with that decision).
With how much bad publicity Warner Bros has gotten since the merger with Discovery, yeah they shouldn’t be trusted. Look how much the animation has suffered this year
please do larry kasanof’s masterpiece, Foodfight
As a professional animator, i second this. That whole movie reeks of “wha-happun”
Oh GOD, Yes!!!!
Yes, that would be so cool
So wait, they didn't want a small team to remake a game that was made by a small group 30 years prior? Crazy.
I bought the Arcade Collection, and the biggest Issue I had was the shortened Fatality timer.
I think we all know this new direction now...
I refuse to believe that Mortal Kombat came out nearly 30 years ago. I was 10....So now on top of me having to spin the age verification wheel like the Price is Right MK is reminding me im old as fuck now.
Love how the best they could muster for the 30th anniversary is a mobile game set for release in 2023. Well done WB...
I wonder why they just didn't upscale and "paint" over the sprites? Capcom did that with Street Fighter HD Remix and it looked great, played pretty much the same as the original games. In the case of MK, just have the sprites look photo realistic. No need for a full-blown remake. Then WB couldn't gripe about the budget.
Damn, a Mortal Kombat HD remake AND either an HD remake of OR sequel to Shaolin Monks would be dope AF!
This is my new favorite channel, love it😍
My first games were Armageddon and MK9, which both host a near complete roster of the original games. I've always dreamed of another MK event like Armageddon, putting the entire roster together again. (Maybe just in 2D this time!) Oh well, until then Mugen romhacks will have me covered :)
Official mk games don't have pantherk, Simon, or Bear Sub-Zero
Is this the same reason why we haven’t gotten a MK Deception, Shaolin Monks and Deadly Alliance remake?
Matt... I always forget how much this show breaks my heart sometimes and here's one of them. Those set pics were amazing and it didn't happen??? I didn't know about this at all and I really wish I still didn't 😕
The fact that WB simply haven't release a MK Shaolin Monks remastered with online co-op is pretty sad.
Oh, and for the 30th anniversary of MK, WB and NRS released a fucking p2w mobile game, now THAT'S sad
Well here we are, 1 year later with..... wait for it.... MK1!
My suggestions:
SimCity 2013
Command and Conquer 4
Spore
Mother 3
PopCap Games
The Sims 4
SNK
Adventure Games
Fuck, they're pretty much all EA I wanna shoot myself in the face
I'm not even a Mortal Kombat fan and this still pisses me off. A passionate dev team had a nearly finished build of an MK1 remake ready to go, it looked fantastic, and even after finding a development studio to help assist in the game's creation, AND the approval someone who helped CREATE THE FUCKING FRANCHISE, WarnerBros STILL said "nO eXPeRiEnCe", despite the fact that they got a development studio on board the project to help with _exactly that._ This shit drives me up the wall in _any_ industry, let alone games.
Oldest trick in the book. Test the waters with a project, make the other company do all the legwork, tell them no thanks, have them turn in what they made cause you own the license, shelve it and release it a later time. WB is finally developing their gaming portfolio and they'll probably wait till they have a more competent internal dev structure and do it themselves.
Considering Ash Williams was in Poker Night at the Inventory 2 by Telltale Games (before they went bankrupt), I wonder if his cameo was tied to the MK11 cancelled appearance?
It also makes sense when Brock Samson from Ventures Bros was added since Telltale games (from what I heard) wanted to make a venture bros game before it fell through. Although if it's just because tf2 and adult swim had contacts back then, it would make more sense.
WB could probably afford to remaster MK1-4 for less than the price they likely paid to get that Rambo DLC in 11
As a game developer and 3d modeler you have no idea how fucking infuriating is the "sorry but we wont be moving on as you have no released games" quote fucking is. WB just got into my worst studio list for good after what they did with those guys. Really really awful.
18:00 Watching this on the 30th anniversary and guess what... We don't got shit
Mortal Kombat 9 is basically just a remake of the 2d mortal Kombat games
Defund Stryker 😂
I actually played as him, loved his friendship move.
But then why would a crossing guard carry a gun?
It always feels odd to hear blind squirrel being mentioned as I have a few friends who work there lol
they're fuckin' holdin' hands bro
@15:43
It's a really big impossibility, but I'm banking on a remake or a sequel to Shaolin Monks. Fingers crossed.
All they need to do is remake Mortal Kombat Trilogy. Idk why they stop at Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
Because it's not the same game??
@@LostSoulSilver Trilogy is just the upgraded version of 3
I can't believe that second game got the "Sorry you don't have any experience" refusal from WB, that's so scummy, it looked fking awesome.
Warner Brothers should really just remake the Mortal Kombat Trilogy that was on the PS and N64 instead of remaking each MK arcade game separately honestly. Oh, and make it actually good this time, and not a glitchy mess.
It's kinda weird they never just did that. Always going for 3 games instead.
Hsu hao has multiple active fan pages on tumblr. He is loved.
Sure hahah
multiple pages all made by you, the one true love of Hsu Hao lol
@@renslo689 god i wish, whoever made those pages is way funnier than me
Wonder if they are saving the remake for right before MK 12 or" 1" so we will see I guess.
So the people who own the indie passion project Mortal Kombat, turn down an indie passion project which is a remake of the indie passion project Mortal Kombat...
Is there an available build of that MK1 remake anywhere? Maybe I missed it but that shit looks sick.
30 years. Wow. I remember, after the first game came out. I was at my grandmother's house, sitting in her rocking chair, studying the game manual to the first game when the local news announced that Brandon Lee had just died.
I’m still waiting for them to do a Primal Rage game that would be sooooo sick perfect studio to make it happen
I squinted too hard and noticed that Scorpion and Sub-Zero were holding hands... 15:42
...why?
Was this for some kind of tag-battle thing?
Why would Scorpion threaten his nemesis while lovingly holding hands with him at the same time?
...was this to be an MK dating simulator?
It was hinting to the intense sexual scenes that they intended to include
@@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome I guess for a game like MK there's not much else you can do to stay edgy... It was a matter of time before having 'sexualities' as finishing moves.
Well, nothing happened
i remember the Hydro thunder arcade machine at my Cicis pizza blew cold air on you it was so awesome i love that game
Yeah! Third Strike online edition was great. If I want to play SF3 I'd much rather do that than the 30th anniversary collection.
The anniversary collection is straight ostrich piss
Can’t wait to see Scorpion rip Steven Universe’s spine out in Multiversus!
Can't wait for the Mortal Kombat 1 video
Why? Was the development troubled?
Fun Fact: All Elite Wrestling's Rebel (not Reba) was the make-up artist on the original canceled remake.
With the way WB is now we’ll never see a true remake or at least a proper remaster of this historic trilogy.