Testing My Cold Weather Gear In The Rain and Snow!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- I took advantage of a fall storm to do some cold weather gear testing of the gear I plan to use for my winter camping this year. I was able to be out during the first real snow storm of the year for the higher elevations near home. :)
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As an American living in the UK I almost only use Hilleberg tents now. Most of my US tents such as my Big Agnes and REI tents pretty much now stay in storage. I wouldn’t use my Enan for winters in the mountains here but it’s an absolutely incredible tent for the weight! The Hilleberg ground sheet that also covers the vestibule area significantly helps with condensation and the additional tie out points at the ends of the tent help a lot in high winds. Anyways, enjoyed the video! Its fun to see an Enan being used back state side! ATB
Thank you! :)
I emphasized those same points - Add additional guy lines to the 4 attachment points, leave both ventilation areas WIDE OPEN & attach the hilleberg footprint under the floor, it covers the vestibule area.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
Hi Devin, nice to see a successful US-TH-camr like you using or testing out an European high quality tent. Besides my Nemo, Big Agnes or several MSR tents I am using my Hilleberg tents (Niak or Soulo) in rough weather conditions. Hilleberg tents might be a bit heavier, but in bad weather condition they are a kind of life insurance. Always enjoy your youtube videos, walk on!!👍
Thank you! The Niak is a model I’d really like to check out. Even just borrowed from someone if possible.
Rain, snow, or sunshine, i love backpacking!
I recently went on a trip where i got snowed on. Coozies are so helpful in cooler temperatures. Highly recommend them for a hot, yummy meal!
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I've made my own home-made Koozies out of Reflectix for both my 750ml & 450ml cups. they keep coffee & meals HOT HOT right down to the last sporkful.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
Dang, bust out the Hilleberg lol. That's awesome. I've always wanted a bomber tunnel tent the UK wild campers use 😅. That looked like a fun trip. Shakedown trips are often my favorite trips since it's mostly playing with new toys after a chill hike.
Yeah, it's quite fun to have that tent now. Been wanting one for many years.
@@BackcountryExposure and I've been waiting all those years for you to buy an Enan, same tent as mine.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
Great video from a uk wildcamper. Loved it that your using a tent that is ideal fir the rain and humid climate we have. As always venting is the way with leaving the door slightly open and the vents either end. Love those boots have you a review on them? Great content as always and I love you going through the gear. Isn’t that what it’s all about 😂. Us hiking camper guys are gear obsessed and it’s great to see it in action thank you enjoyable to watch as always 😊
Thanks! I don't have a dedicated video yet on the Trail 2650's, but I really ought to. They have been my go to shoe for the past 2 years or so, and just keep going back to them.
I agree with you, it’s better to talk about the gear while in use instead of at home.
Thanks for a great trip video. Be great to see what you use for winter glamping with the family especially hanging around the campfire. We have been moving towards wool blankets and layers for fire resistant performance around our snowpeak firepit 🔥 🏕️ ☀️
I honestly don't do much winter camping with my wife/kids. We do hike a little together in the snow, but come November to February, most of the winter trips are myself only. But, I will keep this in mind as an option to share. My kids are getting older and want to be out camping with Dad, so there's opportunity there. :)
Looks like an enjoyable solo trip. Those tents have always caught my eye.
Like driving a Ferrari! ha ha
I know you're using a freestanding tent for snow, but it would be helpful to have a video on pitching a trekking pole tent in the snow.
Cool! Thanks for the suggestion!
I’ve always wanted to test our those Hilleburg tents. I heard especially great in high winds as well
My Enan is my 5-Star Hotel out in the boonies up at 9,000'-10,000' feet elevation in the high Sierras where it is always strong gusty windy, all night.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada.
(Read in the voice of Morgan Freeman to understand what I’m about to say) To those of you who don’t know and might ask..wheres your traction for the winter Devin? He doesn’t need micro spikes or crampons when it snows. Ice? Ha! He laughs at ice. Snow? Haha!! He stomps it down with finesse. I’ve personally seen him not slip on trails where the ice is yellow and the snow crunchy. Im carefully navigating the hill so I don’t eat crap, then I look up and Devin is walking like its dry ground in front if me. I’ve discovered he rock and ice climbs the horizontal like he climbs the vertical. Im convinced..he is part goat. A cobbler loving goat.
A "Cobbler loving Goat" - good one!
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
Ha ha ha ha! This is great! 👊🏻
Thanks for sharing about the sleeping bag customization! As for Hilleberg, I got some deals on an Akto, Niak and Rogen and recently had both in rainstorms and some fall snow storms up in the mountains. They both are GAMECHANGERs for cold weather and also perform well in summer conditions as well and so far are bomb proof! It’s nice not to experience sagging and have to get out and readjust the tent over and over like traditional light weight Silnylon tents. My personal favorite is the Niak, super spacious and actually vents well!
Yes, love Cumulus for that!
I also was considering the Niak, and eventually will end up with one. But the Enan design I've wanted to try for years, so here we are. I'll give it a good amount of use before investing into the Niak. :)
Any Hilleberg tent is a 5-Star Shelter/hotel out in the boonies
Not sure I would use the Enan for true snowy winter camping. I have used my Hillberg Akto in the northern parts of Sweden during a winter ski tour. Had some pretty hard snow storm condition without any problem.
I do not plan to use it for when there would be a real chance of snow load on the tent. For that I’d be in a proper free standing tent that can properly handle the snow load.
But for just being out in the cold, I see no reason why this wouldn’t be a great option. 😁
@@BackcountryExposure Keep foremost in your mind that tents are designed & intended to provide SHELTER, not warmth.
I own a Cumulus LiteLine 400 with 60g of Overfill 850fp rds hydrophobic down , toray airtastic inner and wtarerepellent Infinium Outer fabric . Bought this for my GF to Hike in Iceland while I used my UGQ 20F Quilt . This Bag weights 25,5 oz and packs in a 5L bag and keeps her as a cold sleeper warm to slightly below freezing . This Bag is fully customized in Options and overfill and all Black inner and outer . Was torn between WesternMountaineering and Cumulus but after 100 Videos online and Reddit research I trusted that the quality on Cumulus is almost on the same level like WM. But even after all custom options I paid 200usd less for a Cumulus . Many greets from Germany and IG saga hikes
I also have a LiteLine 400, and it's also great! I like the space of the Teneqa 700 more, but it'll be overkill once it starts to warm up again.
I'd like to know how to safely hike in the snow when the terrain is rocky or uneven and the snow covers holes you could step into or covers tiny creeks you could fall into.
Cool, thanks for the suggestion.
Team Teneqa 700 🙌 got mine on sale for 400 euro, haven’t used it in freezing temps yet as i broke my ankle last winter xc skiing 🙈
Ah man, I am sorry that happened! The Teneqa is quickly becoming one of my favorite bags. :)
Cold weather managing body moisture tips video!
great trip!! the fabric on the hilly is very impressive. I've pitched mine in a 3-inch puddle, no problem! I just wish it was a tad bigger.
Just a couple inches longer and an inch or two wider at the head and foot would be nice.
Always love to check out New Gear options. Thanks for the work and the share. Bring on the Cold! 👴
Bring it on!
Good to know on the Peach Cobbler. lol I have one packed for my trip to central VA this coming weekend.
Add a touch more water than it says. Pretty sure I do 6oz with it. 👍🏻
Amazing Tent
What awesome nature!!!🍁🏕❄️ Cheers from the Netherlands 😊
Many thanks!
That is a fun spot to camp! It used to be better before they cut that new trail in. Oh man, I love that tent! 🍻
...cool video keep up the great content.. Thank you…
The only open question I have about winter camping is the best snow shovel / scoop. Like all gear - light weight but functional. I know several options are available but they seem bulky. I wonder if some hack method has proven effective - like using a thick piece of plastic to cut through or shovel significant amounts of snow when preparing a tent site. Probably a little more work to use, but still could be satisfactory - and could be a part of a winter sit pad, too? Gear will make or break a cold weather trip - more so than for a warm weather trip.
Have you checked out the SnowClaw shovel? Not great if you don’t like bending over or kneeling in snow to dig, but light weight and very durable. Could dig a pit for pyramid tent, or shape snow “furniture” with it.
Well that looked chilly haha. Great set up and great video.That mood light created by the red tent though.
The red is pretty intense, ha! But it was the only color available at the time.
Devin, are you testing a new puffy from Outdoor Vitals? The one that you wear while you're preparing dinner looks similar to the NovaPro, but it appears to be "puffier"... if that makes any sense. It's like an over stuffed NovaPRo.
Nah, it’s the standard NovaPro. I had recently washed it though, so maybe that was what made it “fluffy”. 😁
How bad was the condensation in the tent? It looked like the air flow is kind of minimal without the vestibule flap open.
The bag looks pretty sick. I love quilts but a bag in the winter is just more comfortable.
What do you think about a video addressing cold weather injuries (chilblains, frostbite, hypothermia, etc)? How to recognize them, treatments, and preventions. Arming people with knowledge like that can go a long way towards them being confident in the cold.
Condensation would have been minimal to non-existent IF Devin had left both ventilation ends OPEN. Yes, I have an Enan & always leave both end ventilation ends WIDE OPEN.
Great suggestions. I’ll have to look at how to effectively present info like that in a video format.
The condensation inside the inner was pretty bad. More than I expected. So I’ve got to figure out some tricks to just increase the air flow a little. I’m not too concerned about it though cause honestly, majority of my cold weather/winter trips are overnight trips only.
@@BackcountryExposure I especially like that Hilleberg outers all come all the way to the ground; that they are double wall shelters. Which ever end of my tent is facing into the wind is the end where I place my upper body. That is the end where I add two supplementary guylines & two more stakes. I made the mistake, the first time I overnighted of keeping both vents CLOSED & like you discovered a lot of condensation inside my tent the next morning.. Never again, both vents are wide OPEN.
Do yourself a favor, buy the Footprint & permanently attach it to the Enan tent floor. That will also help reduce condensation from the otherwise exposed ground in the vestibule., will provide material for you to put your boots, backpack, or cooking equipment on instead of bare ground.
I have the wind at my back, unroll the tent, put stakes into the ground including the 2 supplementary guylines, put big heavy rocks atop each stake then proceed around the tent as instructed/directed by Hilleberg.
I gather up big heavy rocks even B4 I unroll my tent. I pound a stake into ground & immediately cover it with a big rock because I quite likely to experience strong gusty winds all night.
This is classed as a 3 season tent in Europe. It has thin fabrics and is not designed for snow loading. It’s a yellow label. The 4 season tents are red label and black label.
Well, thats true. But that doesn't mean it don't work in the snow. Even if Hilleberg class it as a yellow lable I would say that it definatly is a 4 season tent in every way. The only difference between a 4 and 3 season are the ventilation and if it goas all the way to the ground and the inner tent is solid (if m its dubble wall).
I have 3 hilleberg and they are all red and black lable and Ive use the tents for more then 30 years and Im a winter survival instructor...
And in my opinion, yhe Hilleberg red/black are extremly over designed for 99% of people and you don't need that. I would not recommend people to by a black lable. Exception are if you going on an expedition to Antartica (witch is the intended purpose for that tent). In swedish winter that I live in you don't have to have that.
You can definatly use the tent in the video for winter without problem in most winter climates Sweden included.
I was out 6 weeks in extrem snow/winter conditions this year and I used a single wall 600 gram Durston Xmid pro. No problem at all. That tent is actually 4 season classefied.
@@SigfridSWE I consider a Hilleberg rated 3-Season tent (for Nordic Winters0 to be more than adequate for most 4-Season location here in America. Yes, I have the dark green Enan.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
For the pad leak, have you tried inflating to max pressure and then putting it in a bathtub (with water)? Bubbles will immediately give away the leak location when the leaking area touches the water in the tub. My two leaking Nemo pads both had poor seating of the slow release flap in the inflation valve. Finicky design, but trail-fixable.
I’m always worried about my feet getting wet and cold when hiking in winter.
Waterproof boots are obviously the easy/short answer. But I will add to my video ides list. Thanks!
@@BackcountryExposure Thank you! I ask because of when thru hiking I sometimes go trough snow at higher altitudes and I wear trail runners most of the time. Waterproof boots make my feet sweat and than I still get cold feet. Its like choosing between two evils. Maybe I should buy better socks?
I recognized your red Hilleberg ENAN, immediately & will be interested in what you have to say about it. Now, I'll watch/listen to your video.
Excellent, that you told us the temperature & elevation right off.
Sadly, MooseJaw has been sold by WalMart to Dick's Sporting Goods - BUMMER. I must say, up to this point, MooseJaw has carried the largest inventory of Hilleberg tents & Western Mountaineering Sleeping bags of any online business. Yes, I bought my WM Antelope (5ºF) Sleeping bag with Gore Windstoper (GWS) outer fabric from MooseJaw, prompt delivery.
Excellent, that you've added script to the video of the gear as your talking about 'em.
Hilleberg rates the Enan as a 3-season tent, however that is for Nordic type winters in Sweden & Norway. The Enan is a stronger 3-season tent than many so=called 4-season tents here in America.
That Koozie will substantially help retain the heat while your meal is re-hydrating. This is the first I've NOT known about PR Peach Cobbler, I'm definitely going to buy a couple of 'em & hope they also have Apple Cobbler.
7:55 I love my Soto Windmaster stove, same as yours.
9:33 Next morning as you emerge from your Enan & we all see the snow that fell overnight.
11:22 Yes the Enan outer fabric is the Kerlon 1000 which is a Sil-Nylon fabric with a 5,000 hydrostatic rating, definitely going to shed water & keep you dry inside the tent.
The Enan floor fabric is 70D triple coated polyester fabric same as the floor material on most other Hilleberg tents, absolutely bullet proof.
11:40 Condensation - keep both end ventilation points open & cover the vestibule ground with a coversheet or a Hilleberg footprint (same 70D fabric as the floor fabric - to keep condensation to a minimum. Tents are supposed to provide "shelter" not warmth. I made that mistake the first couple of time by keeping the ends covered instead of open. Almost no condensation on the inner when both end are OPEN, not covered.
I, personally, pitch my Enan with the Enan footprint attached, easy peasy & now the vestibule ground will be covered.
Yes, I've fired up my Soto Windmaster stove inside the closed vestibule area to boil water, no problem. Yes, I open the door zipper at the top B4 lighting the stove.
#1 Tip - add 2 supplementary guylines & peg each with it's own peg at the end of the tent that is facing into the wind.
#2 TIP - place a small flat rock at the base of each of the short fiberglass poles at both ends of the tent. That hard surface will keep the fiberglass pole from sinking into soft wet ground & reduce the outer tent from sagging.
#3 TIP - get the Hilleberg footprint for your Enan & attach it to the Enan floor that way you pitch the outer/inner/footprint all at the same time. The footprint will reduce condensation + it will help keep the inner tent cleaner. Having the Vestibule area covered with the footprint enables you to put your boots on or take 'em off on material instead of bare ground.
You'll discover your Enan is more Shelter than you'll need most anywhere here in North America.
I'm surprised you've not selected a ULA backpack which are made in Utah.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada.
Knew you'd be happy to see the Enan. :)
@@BackcountryExposure Thanks, Devin, for making my reply the HIGHLIGHTED reply
Never forget, to leave both ventilation area WIDE OPEN. Condensation inside your tent will then be non-existent to minimal.
I need coaching on keeping hands warm in wet-cold conditions like the trip in this video.
Have you tried waterproof rain mitts? Adding them over your gloves can make a big difference in keeping your hands dry and warmer.
Hi Devin. When you're reviewing a tent can you go over the setup, i.e. is it easy to set up after a long day of hiking, how many stakes does it take, can you set up on hard ground, slick rock, etc.
Yes, that's normal for me when I am doing a full dedicated review of a tent. :)
@@BackcountryExposure I, too, will be looking forward to your FULL review of the Hilleberg ENAN.
Would like to see a better review of that tent. I think when tenting in those conditions (rain, with a cold dew point) you will most likely get quite a bit of condensation in the tent, I experienced that in my tenting so far.
Yeah, the condensation was expected. It'd be nice to mitigate the amount of it on the inside of the inner tent though. Once I've got more time with the Enan I'll work on a dedicated review. :)
@@BackcountryExposure Keep both ventilation area WIDE OPEN which will reduce condensation from non-existent to minimal. And attach a Hilleberg footprint which will cover ground in the vestibule area.
My tensor pad has a slightly finicky valve. It can have a slow leak in certain positions
Yeah that's what I'd like to figure out. Need to inflate it and do some testing. It's got about 20 nights or so on it so far, and just started happening.
I'm in the process of finishing stage 1 of my 4 stage camping set up. Stage 1 is just backpack gear. 2 is base camp... Anyway, 2 items away from stage 1 completion but now I need ideas for easy access areas free to camp in Utah. Would love to talk to you...
Feel free to email me or message me on Instagram. :)
Great video Devin. I look forward to seeing how you get on with the CS40. It looks like a great backpack. I'm eyeing a new one for when the warmer months come back around next year. I've recently purchased the Waymark Embr for my winter trips, so I'm looking forward to taking that out this weekend for the first time.
Regarding the Nemo Tensor. I had 3 Nemor Tensor Insulated and had issues with all of them deflating or the baffles blowing, so decided to move onto the Big Agnes Zoom UL. The Nemo's do seem very susceptible to punctures. Which is a shame.
Thanks! You’re gonna enjoy the EMBR, it’s a solid pack! I’m so far enjoying the CS40, but have some changes I’d make on it. I’ll share a review after more time with it.
I’ve also had a couple tensors in the past with no issues. I’m about 20 nights or so on this All-Season and just in the past 3 nights on it it’s been deflating. So time to do a soapy water bath. 😊
@@BackcountryExposure Maybe I've just been unlucky with my Tensors. Shame as I found it really comfy and warm.
Sorry Devin, one question if you don't mind? I'm on the hunt for some good winter gloves. They need to be warm and properly waterproof. The "waterproof" ones I currently have end up soaking through really quickly. Do you have any suggestions? It seems a bit of a minefield when it comes to waterproof gloves.
I got a tensor pad early on when they changed the valve design. They require unnecessarily extreme delicate treatment to stand a chance and a particular method of storage/use to avoid valve damage or abrasion. I've only got a couple dozen trips on it around AZ&UT but I'm always wondering when its gonna happen... comfortable but troublesome is my view.
@@trickofthetrail I faced the same experience with wet gloves until I bought a pair of Gore-Tex mittens that easily slide over my gloves.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
@@azclaimjumper Thanks mate, I'll check that out as an option. Is there a particular make you recommend?
Recent subscriber to your channel. I'm enjoying the gear reviews and the locations you test them at. Also, I'm a hammock camper. Do you do any reviews and hiking with hammocks?
Thank you. Hammocks don’t get a lot of attention on my channel. I spend a lot of my time in the desert where there aren’t great places to hang. And unfortunately the forests here near my home aren’t super healthy, so there’s a lot of dead trees. I just also prefer sleeping in a tent.
@@BackcountryExposure understood. I won't hold that against you 😉 But, if you ever decide to try, there are a few good cottage vendor hammock stands that help with no trees.
How was the headroom in that tunnel tent? What height are you? Thanks
It's not the most spacious for space or peak height, but sufficient for sitting up in. I am 5'9" in height. I think anyone taller than 6' would struggle with the length and height of the tent.
@@BackcountryExposure I'm 5'3" most any tent ever made is spacious for lil ole MEeee.
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I heard MooseJaw is closing some locations and merging headquarters with a new parent company. Not for nothing but that may effect how the experience is for anyone going forward compared to what you've had so far with this sponsor. In support of your endeavors to be full time my 2 cents is to take some caution in that regard to avoid unintentionally misrepresenting your credibility in some way. Thanks for sharing and best wishes.
Yes, this is a fair comment. Acquisitions of companies are always interesting. Thanks!
Moosejaw (owned by Walmart) was bought by Dicks Sporting goods (who owns Public Lands). This happened back in February 2023. They are closing all but 3 stores (had 14 stores). Moosejaw is ope actually opening a location in utah this month (which will be one of the 3 remaining stores).
That tent is NOT a Hilleberg. Its a Warmlite 3R. The design (2R and 3R) were created by Jack Stephenson in the 1960's. Hilleberg and Early Winters and others have all copied the designs. I have owned 2 warmlite tents since 1975. They are made by the Stephenson family in the US but are on the pricey side.
I disagree. One the label on the tent says Hilleberg and two, the designs are wildly different. Similarities? Sure, but definitely not a copy.
@@BackcountryExposure Opps -- I was commenting on a documentory of Will Steger and the tent he was using but somehow my comment got printer here,
Tis the season when youtubers lie to everyone about how awesome cold weather backpacking is.
Ha ha ha ha!
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Mud skiing?😂
Sorry dude, but this vid seems like a 14 min commercial
with one product placement after another. To much..
Thanks for the feedback. I mention at the beginning that I am doing a gear shakedown and test of my cold weather gear, so the point was to share all the gear I was using for the trip. I am sorry it came across that way.