I had a lot of people requesting if I could provide a noise test. I made a quick short, showcasing if the card gets noisy under load. th-cam.com/users/shortsiXTHUh6JJbo?feature=share
For the record, I briefly tested both the X version and regular version of this card (I bought the X, my friend bought the regular). The X version comes with higher clocks out of the box, but outside of that, there is no difference whatsoever. And the higher clocks don't make for any noticeable difference in game at all. Save yourself 50 bucks and go with the regular version if it's available.
Good on you for sharing that. Generally outside of benchmarking, customs cards and FEs are all the same within a few % of each other. I found that out for myself between my 2080ti black and the 2080ti kingpin. +$700 for literally 0 gains in game. Though large gains whilst benchmarking
I have got myself the Inno3D version. clocks at 2850 at 100% power limit. Temps are similar. Power consumption around 400-410 Watt in Timespy Extreme with peak ~450 Watt. It seems that around this time, compared to previous generation, the cards are all close to each other.
That makes sense considering that the boost is only 3% higher, and with Ada it seems some clock speeds are tied directly to the voltage, not the core clock anyways. So in reality the difference is probably even less than 3%.
The cheaper model is just to satisfy the Nvidia requirement that every partner have a model at the starting MSRP. For every base model they produce, they will make 10 more of the X model for an extra $50 margin.
@@MickeyMolad for sure but with no practical benefit in gaming. Marginal gains in compute performance. And marginal gains in benchmarking. The worst binned 4090 can still max out 99% of monitors. Which is great to see. 20fps gains are much more negligible in the 200hz range, than they are at 100hz range. For me, I play on 3440x1440. I went with the base model, because every game is likely to have it's .1% lows above my monitors max hz of 175. For cases like these, power consumption aside, there is no point to spending more than FE prices unless you are going for aesthetics or temps.
@@chenchang3489 had NOTHING but a bad experience with my Gigabyte 3090, RMAed that card 3 times since release & their customer service is absolute trash. Will never 👎 buy Gigabyte anything again, MSI, ASUS or EVGA (if they ever make GPUs again)
@@dorak_22 Well I live in Taiwan so all these brand's service are "OK". EVGA though, is really good at customer service. Unfortunately they don't sell cards anymore. Anyway just choose the brand that has the best customer service in your region.
@@dorak_22 gigabyte is trash, my brother’s gigabyte 3080ti randomly took a dump on him after 2 months of use. He ended up getting an MSI instead and it hasn’t failed yet
Got this from microcenter for 1650. Coming from a 3070 ti this thing is blowing my mind. Finally able to truely take advantage of my 144pp 240hz monitor and my 4k 120hz tv.
So good to see a review for a MSI RTX 4090 Gaming Trio. Almost all the other videos I can find for this one are unboxings, which I don’t care for. I would like to see more of a comparison to the 4090 FE and other 4090 cards on the same system.
In my opinion, if you buy a 4090, you probably won't need another gpu for a long time, it can game at 4k high refresh anything... it's like the definitive GPU, I wouldn't even bother with the next gen like a 5090.
Finally, this was the model I was able to order which should be here Saturday, BTW this is the 1st Gaming X Trio I have been able to find, so I don't think you are late, great review keep them coming.
@@evalangley3985 you have to work with what you have. Just add another 10 to 15% to the number because of bottlenecks. It's really 75 to 80% faster not 65%.
Great review. My Gaming X Trio is on the way, should be here on Monday, so looking forward to it and pairing it with my LG 48" OLED! Thanks again! As far as costs go, it's absolutely ridiculous, and I certainly felt remorse at sinking so much money into a single piece of hardware. However, this is the first time in my life I have ever bought a flagship GPU, the previous highest tier GPU I got was a 1080Ti and that lasted almost 4 years before I upgraded to my current 3080 which is almost 2 years old now. With the giant leap in performance, and the current direction of worldwide economies, I can only see things getting more expensive in the short to medium term, so I pulled the trigger. My thinking is it will last me at least 4 years, so over that amount of time, it really does level out the cost of investment. As DLSS and other super sampling features become prevalent, it should draw out the life of such a powerful GPU than previous generations. The only thing I'm concerned at now is my 8 year old 860w PSU and potential bottlenecking with my 5600X.
@@cloggedpitot1 I'm in Australia, so the cost is hyperinflated, but I paid $3300 all up. That price converted is about $500 over the US msrp, so roughly $2000 - $2100 US.
@@BallisticSollution Thank you for your response. I just got into 4k gaming and and questioning the future of the 3080ti card I bought a few months ago. Right now the Msi card is going for around 2300 on amazon.
Glad you did a review on this gpu, got the gaming non x coming by Oct 25th... pretty hype and hope with a good memory and undervolt/oc, I can get 7% more performance
I've just watched a video of the 4090 benchmarking MS2020 at 8k, yes 8k ultra settings. Absolute butter smooth frames. Absolute MONSTER performance card.
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 Not sure mate, I don't remember seeing it in the live graph being on so no I'd say. Just ultra settings on everything. To be honest I just couldn't get over how smooth it was a 8k ultra. Never thought that would be possible in a flight Simm or I'd ever see it lol. Considering You know how much they bring high end systems to there knees and that.
Just saw one of these at MicroCenter today, they were just in stock a few minutes earlier and were going quick. I picked one up and was appreciative of your review. Thanks.
I have that same card. A beast, indeed. It didn't play nice with my RM1000x, though, yet did with my Cx750. Weird. My only issue is finding video content that shows it being liquid cooled, as I feel it's my only way to sell it now, as part of a custom looped system.
@@themcp definitely agree with you. I had to get a 1200 watts be quiet and it works great. I normally put my fan speed to 83 and temp is around 60c on full utilisation. On normal speed it's max temp is around 72. Not bad . Are you thinking of getting the 4090 or the 4090 ti? I have a feeling nvidia will make their 4090 ao good that anything below that will seem slow
Thank you for the review it really help me choosing between the MSI gaming trio and the asus 4090 tuf Took me 4 months to save enough money to buy one and didn't want to make a mistake my MSI Gaming Trio will be arriving later today at MSRP which was a big plus for me
I was just able to purchase this card today from Newegg @ $1799. The reason I decided to get this card is because I purchased a Samsung Odessey Neo G8 and need all the 4K 240Hz 1000 nit HDR FPS I can get. Thanks for the great review, only thing I could ask is adding my favorite game, The Division 2, to the benchmarks. But after playing it for so long I need to try a bunch of games I bought that are on your list that I havnt played yet.
Appreciate the review. I think you are the first English review out. The lack of reviews is strange to me since it seemed like this version and the non-X are one of the most abundant variants.
I have one of these in an open case and like you said, temps are great. However when i was testing assetto corsa competizione in vr, i heard the fans ramp up pretty high while in the main menu. Checking temps i saw a whopping 79c... in the main menu. Load 100%. Dont know what its rendering so hard but once i loaded into the car it cooled down almost immediately. Not sure what happened but something to keep in mind.
Hey. Just found your channel. Glad to see some fellow Canadians are also doing these reviews now. I just have one question about this card. How noisy is this card? I had a MSI Ventus 3x and it was very loud when gaming. Also the noise was high pitched. This one looks a bit better.
Looking at your noise video it looks like your case is on its side, and I'm guessing that's a temporary thing? Did you use the supplied support bracket? Mine didn't come with any screws or instructions, just a couple extra tiny pads, so it's not very clear how you're meant to install it. And it's unlikely it would fit many cases. My GPU retention clip came out of the socket when I had to remove the card to access the only available SATA ports, inconveniently positioned under the GPU! Luckily all seems to be ok but I might have to leave my case on its side from now on. So I'm curious to know if you (or anyone else) fitted the bracket and how it went.
Nice review. Hows the noise vs 3090 Strix during Timespy? If they are comparable that is a win, the Strix is the gold standard for noise and temps. Were you testing using the latest 422 drivers for the 30 series cards? They got boosts in DX12 performance two days ago.
I've got a strix 4090 and ive built a couple of client rigs with the MSI 4090 gaming X and suprim. The strix is definately quieter but the MSI isn't so much louder that I hate it. Strangely the suprim is a little louder than the gaming X, but it also has a higher power limit. They are both good strix is just better by a bit
Hi man, great video, I'm thinking on picking up one of these, how'd you think this video card will behave with a Ryzen9 5950X and 128GB of DDR4 RAM (3600 mhz) ? would this be enought for a ultra high gaming experience ?
If you're gaming at 4K you shouldn't have any issues, the card will offer you excellent performance. The CPU will be holding back the GPU a bit, but its not going to be a huge difference.
I unfortunately couldn't get noise level data, due to too much ambient noise from nearby HVAC. But characteristically speaking, the fans do run fairly quiet under load, there's a slight hum and that's about it. If anything the card's coil whine is what was more noticeable. Hope this helps.
I know this video is quite old, but I just got this card because my 3080 is having trouble with Stable Diffusion. Requires high VRAM that the 4090 will be able to handle. 😀
75 FPS at native 4K ultra in Cyberpunk? From all the videos I have seen, the 4090 averages about 80 FPS at native 4K ultra in Cyberpunk. I have watched TH-camrs like Testing Games benchmark it.
Hey thanks for watching. You do realize that testing games is a FAKE benchmark channel right? They have never once shown physical evidence of owning the hardware they claim to test. I've made a video in the past discussing this topic, it is VERY easy to alter on screen display statistics to fake numbers. To answer your question, you can find 2 other reputable sites Techpowerup and Computerbase have achieved similar numbers with the 4090 (native) in their testing www.computerbase.de/2022-10/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-review-test/2/#abschnitt_benchmarks_mit_und_ohne_rt_in_3840__2160 tpucdn.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4090-suprim-x/images/cyberpunk-2077-3840-2160.png
Go back and watch those benchmarks, the thermals are way hotter as well. A lot of those channels. Are either fake or copy paste each other. Only trust review videos like this one.
@@Gamer-q7v Bruh Jayztwocents, kitgamingtech and Paul's Hardware were also getting around 75-80 fps at 4k ultra (rt off/dlss off). To answer your question, bang4buckpcgamer is definitely real, he even uploaded a video showing his rig on his channel.
Thanks for the test. Can you say something about coil whine? Last Gen MSI cards where superior in this manner, with almost no hearable coil noises and I'm hoping for the same with their 4000 cards
There is a bit of coil whine, but you probably won't be able to notice it much with the card installed inside a case, and along with the rest of your case fans. I did do a noise test, you can find it here th-cam.com/users/shortsiXTHUh6JJbo
Did you mount the GPU horizontally or vertically? I know this card is the "thinnest" of most others, but with my 011 dynamic evo, I'm concerned about bending the adaptor cable and am inclined to mount vertically. Concerned about temperatures ...
Hi, i am not a gamer (i am completely loco) i own a great amazing set-up, i own the Tuf Gaming 3090 RTX OC, i really think to but this MSI 4090 Trio X at 2100$ canadian on facebook marketplace in my city, not used, new, bought by someone at Best Buy... what do you think? Should i keep my Tuf Gaming?
the melting issues does seem to be associated with a majority of small case or any case with not a lot of rooom between the panel and gpu where the connectors are pressed against the panel enough to slightly bend it overtime can cause them to overheat
25:31 for someone with a 1440p monitor why is the 4090 wasted; have you never heard of Nvidia DSR or resolution scaling? ... Or having a high min frame rate or good ray-tracing frame rate?
Ray Tracing aside............I think the real hero in this review is the RX 6800 XT. You can get one now for sub-$600.00 and in these selected titles that were tested the RX 6800 XT did very well matching very close to the RTX 3080 and in some cases the RTX 3090. I picked up an RX 6900 XT myself a couple of months back for $650.00 and I really do like it.
Hey, afaik this card comes with a 3x8pin to 12 pin adapter out of the box, I was wondering how far you could push it if you used a 4x8pin to 12 pin adapter instead? Will it have any OC headroom?
The bios on the card has a 106% power limit, so 477W max (just checked on mine). I've been messing around with it, and I haven't even seen it touch 450W yet even when adding to the core clock (I have a 600W 12VHPWR connector running to it from my PSU).
@@nevervne I'm pretty sure the suprim can only go to 500 also, even lowering this card to like 80% there's barley any difference in fps then 106%, at least with anything out now, it's a freaking power house
@@nevervne Each card is different. Like I said, I haven't even seen it hit 450W while gaming or benchmarking. After watching Derbauer's videos, it seems like the cards are voltage limited anyways.
Is MSI a trustworthy brand? I have only ever purchased EVGA and we all know what happened with that. So it’s a little scary to throw$1600 on a brand I know nothing about. Also do you think this card is worth it or just wait for the 4080?
MSI is one of the most trustworthy brands out there and honestly, if you compare the pricing for the RTX 4080 to the 4090, I would definitely buy the 4090.
mine came out to 2,013 usd. 😢 but will be well worthy! I’m upgrading from a 2080 super that I love but it’s not allowing me the freedom of streaming while staying over 100 fps or 120 fps in MW2 1440p res plus I want to play single player titles in 4K.
Am I correct in understanding the 3 8 pin connector will be enough for just gaming at top graphics with the 450watt limit and the 600 watt 4th connector is mainly for over clocking cards?
It's tough, but I'd probably pick the FE if given the chance, only because it's cheaper in Canada and it's considerably shorter in terms of length so better case compatibility.
I Appreciate your Video, I am Currently Using a MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 3090. I have someone here locally willing to sell me there MSI Gaming Trio for $1,800 but, I don't feel it is worth it for me. Mine 3090 is still very good. Thank you. I believe, I am going to pass on this offer.
Can someone tell me why different brands of these graphics are different in price. For example the ASUS strix 4090 and this MSI 4090. If it's the same card why spend extra money. Sorry asking because I don't know and can't find any videos on comparisons.
My 4090 gaming X trio go to 77c, hotspot 90c (silent mode), 455w in Metro exodus Enhanced edition, 4k Extreme settings ultra raytracing no DLSS, physx and hairworks on after 1 hour gaming. How can i see memory temp, GPU-Z doesnt show memory temps.
My living room is 19c with open case. Wen i set it to gaming mode temps are more like 67c fanspeed 45%. I can not see the memory temps, its not showing in GPU-Z. But i'm happy with my GPU. Nice review 👌👍
so wait, buying this card with a 1440p monitor is a waste of money? Im getting a AW3423DW qdOLED screeen mostly for HDR and OLED technology that screen delivers.
The AW3423DW runs at 170hz at 3440x1440. That's roughly 85% the pixels per second as 4k 120hz. I'd definitely say it's worth it there. It's not worth it at lower refresh rates at 1440p, but high refresh rate, or high refresh rate ultra wide, I say go for it if you can afford it.
@@mag3slay4 Sure, but a lot of games you can run just fine at 170hz without a CPU bottleneck. And 3440x1440 is a larger res than 1440p. Also, with DLSS 3 in a lot of games the CPU bottlenecks won't matter nearly as much, at least, in terms of visual smoothness.
Honestly the 4090 rog strix is way too expensive. It comes in at $2000 and with tax you're looking at almost $2200. If you just get a lower model at $1600 you can basically get a 4k monitor with it as well for $2200.
I had a lot of people requesting if I could provide a noise test.
I made a quick short, showcasing if the card gets noisy under load.
th-cam.com/users/shortsiXTHUh6JJbo?feature=share
Are your thermal tests using the stock fan curve?
@@robertrootham2477 if you watch the video again, I believe the fan curve was at 1400 rpm to 1600 rpm during testing. Stock rpm is about 1400 rpm +
For the record, I briefly tested both the X version and regular version of this card (I bought the X, my friend bought the regular). The X version comes with higher clocks out of the box, but outside of that, there is no difference whatsoever. And the higher clocks don't make for any noticeable difference in game at all. Save yourself 50 bucks and go with the regular version if it's available.
Good on you for sharing that. Generally outside of benchmarking, customs cards and FEs are all the same within a few % of each other.
I found that out for myself between my 2080ti black and the 2080ti kingpin. +$700 for literally 0 gains in game. Though large gains whilst benchmarking
I have got myself the Inno3D version. clocks at 2850 at 100% power limit. Temps are similar. Power consumption around 400-410 Watt in Timespy Extreme with peak ~450 Watt. It seems that around this time, compared to previous generation, the cards are all close to each other.
That makes sense considering that the boost is only 3% higher, and with Ada it seems some clock speeds are tied directly to the voltage, not the core clock anyways. So in reality the difference is probably even less than 3%.
The cheaper model is just to satisfy the Nvidia requirement that every partner have a model at the starting MSRP. For every base model they produce, they will make 10 more of the X model for an extra $50 margin.
@@MickeyMolad for sure but with no practical benefit in gaming. Marginal gains in compute performance. And marginal gains in benchmarking.
The worst binned 4090 can still max out 99% of monitors. Which is great to see.
20fps gains are much more negligible in the 200hz range, than they are at 100hz range.
For me, I play on 3440x1440. I went with the base model, because every game is likely to have it's .1% lows above my monitors max hz of 175. For cases like these, power consumption aside, there is no point to spending more than FE prices unless you are going for aesthetics or temps.
Finally a review on this model. I have mine on the way but glad to see thermals wasn’t an issue. Great job!
Same tracking has mine due in by Saturday 🤙😎
Just got the non X ver. The temp control is good enough. But not as good as ASUS and GIGABYTE, they run with
@@chenchang3489 had NOTHING but a bad experience with my Gigabyte 3090, RMAed that card 3 times since release & their customer service is absolute trash. Will never 👎 buy Gigabyte anything again, MSI, ASUS or EVGA (if they ever make GPUs again)
@@dorak_22 Well I live in Taiwan so all these brand's service are "OK". EVGA though, is really good at customer service. Unfortunately they don't sell cards anymore. Anyway just choose the brand that has the best customer service in your region.
@@dorak_22 gigabyte is trash, my brother’s gigabyte 3080ti randomly took a dump on him after 2 months of use. He ended up getting an MSI instead and it hasn’t failed yet
Got this from microcenter for 1650. Coming from a 3070 ti this thing is blowing my mind. Finally able to truely take advantage of my 144pp 240hz monitor and my 4k 120hz tv.
So good to see a review for a MSI RTX 4090 Gaming Trio. Almost all the other videos I can find for this one are unboxings, which I don’t care for. I would like to see more of a comparison to the 4090 FE and other 4090 cards on the same system.
In my opinion, if you buy a 4090, you probably won't need another gpu for a long time, it can game at 4k high refresh anything... it's like the definitive GPU, I wouldn't even bother with the next gen like a 5090.
its like the GTX 1080 Ti
Finally, this was the model I was able to order which should be here Saturday, BTW this is the 1st Gaming X Trio I have been able to find, so I don't think you are late, great review keep them coming.
Bravo! What a great review. I hope more companies sample you so we can get in-depth reviews like this. This was really, really good.
ugh most respected reviewers do all of this if not more, not sure why you are acting as if this is groundbreaking review material
A great round of applause for a GPU review falling in CPU bottleneck...
@@SPG8989 Why are you being a hater? Better yet, If you don't like the review or it's the same old same. Why are you here? What a bozo.🤣🤡
@@evalangley3985 you have to work with what you have. Just add another 10 to 15% to the number because of bottlenecks. It's really 75 to 80% faster not 65%.
Great review. My Gaming X Trio is on the way, should be here on Monday, so looking forward to it and pairing it with my LG 48" OLED! Thanks again!
As far as costs go, it's absolutely ridiculous, and I certainly felt remorse at sinking so much money into a single piece of hardware. However, this is the first time in my life I have ever bought a flagship GPU, the previous highest tier GPU I got was a 1080Ti and that lasted almost 4 years before I upgraded to my current 3080 which is almost 2 years old now. With the giant leap in performance, and the current direction of worldwide economies, I can only see things getting more expensive in the short to medium term, so I pulled the trigger. My thinking is it will last me at least 4 years, so over that amount of time, it really does level out the cost of investment. As DLSS and other super sampling features become prevalent, it should draw out the life of such a powerful GPU than previous generations. The only thing I'm concerned at now is my 8 year old 860w PSU and potential bottlenecking with my 5600X.
What did you pay for your 4090?
@@cloggedpitot1 I'm in Australia, so the cost is hyperinflated, but I paid $3300 all up. That price converted is about $500 over the US msrp, so roughly $2000 - $2100 US.
@@BallisticSollution Thank you for your response. I just got into 4k gaming and and questioning the future of the 3080ti card I bought a few months ago. Right now the Msi card is going for around 2300 on amazon.
Glad you did a review on this gpu, got the gaming non x coming by Oct 25th... pretty hype and hope with a good memory and undervolt/oc, I can get 7% more performance
I've just watched a video of the 4090 benchmarking MS2020 at 8k, yes 8k ultra settings. Absolute butter smooth frames.
Absolute MONSTER performance card.
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 Not sure mate, I don't remember seeing it in the live graph being on so no I'd say.
Just ultra settings on everything.
To be honest I just couldn't get over how smooth it was a 8k ultra. Never thought that would be possible in a flight Simm or I'd ever see it lol.
Considering You know how much they bring high end systems to there knees and that.
Excellent review man. I ended up buying this card as well. I have had two other MSI trio's and they never disappoint me. Thanks, liked and sub'd.
Would love some VR benchmarks. Thanks for the great review 👍🏻
Great review. Have this card (non-X) arriving tomorrow, and this is the first real review I've seen!
Just saw one of these at MicroCenter today, they were just in stock a few minutes earlier and were going quick. I picked one up and was appreciative of your review. Thanks.
Subscribed! Thanks for letting me know the video was up!
Great review. Have the rtx 3080 ti gaming x trio and it's a beast. Keeping my eyes on the 4090 Ti Gaming x trio. Hope it comes out soon
I have that same card. A beast, indeed. It didn't play nice with my RM1000x, though, yet did with my Cx750. Weird. My only issue is finding video content that shows it being liquid cooled, as I feel it's my only way to sell it now, as part of a custom looped system.
@@themcp definitely agree with you. I had to get a 1200 watts be quiet and it works great. I normally put my fan speed to 83 and temp is around 60c on full utilisation. On normal speed it's max temp is around 72. Not bad . Are you thinking of getting the 4090 or the 4090 ti? I have a feeling nvidia will make their 4090 ao good that anything below that will seem slow
Thank you for the review it really help me choosing between the MSI gaming trio and the asus 4090 tuf Took me 4 months to save enough money to buy one and didn't want to make a mistake my MSI Gaming Trio will be arriving later today at MSRP which was a big plus for me
Been waiting for this video since the discussion on the reddit thread about trio reviews. Great job and very thorough! New subscriber here.
I was just able to purchase this card today from Newegg @ $1799. The reason I decided to get this card is because I purchased a Samsung Odessey Neo G8 and need all the 4K 240Hz 1000 nit HDR FPS I can get. Thanks for the great review, only thing I could ask is adding my favorite game, The Division 2, to the benchmarks. But after playing it for so long I need to try a bunch of games I bought that are on your list that I havnt played yet.
@@unknowncomic4107 I got it at Amazon for 1650
Stumbled upon this review. This is perfect as this speaks to me directly as I have an LG OLED C1 that I play on.
Just bought it for 1600 sold and shipped by Amazon super excited
Appreciate the review. I think you are the first English review out. The lack of reviews is strange to me since it seemed like this version and the non-X are one of the most abundant variants.
Good video. It's nice to see that memory temperature issues have been dealt with.
This is a such a high quality review! Thanks for doing this
This was a great review! Keep
It up.
I have the Gaming non trio and easily hit 3ghz on the clock at 52c while gaming
These cards are monsters.
Thanks for this! likely the first review in English I can find anywhere. Just one question, was all testing done with Performance or Quiet Bios?
I had switched to the gaming bios on the card.
@@DannyzReviews perfect, thank you. subbed.
@@DannyzReviews Hello I purchased the card and unsure where exactly you switch it from Silent to Gaming, checked the manuals and online but no help
@@deweydonovan9926 Should be an option on the gpu itself. It's basically a switch you can move left or right to choose from gaming or silent.
Nice review - I have purchased this exact card, should have it by this weekend 🤙😎
Dude nice. For a small channel, this is a very well done review.
Great Review. Thanks for sharing productivity benchmarks.
You answered my questions and alleviated my thermal fears, have some money!
Thanks a lot! I appreciate it :)
Here's a noise test by the way th-cam.com/users/shortsiXTHUh6JJbo
@@DannyzReviews I've got the Thermaltake View 51 case,, I literally can't hear anything from the front and side of my case. XD
very interesting, very informative! THANKS!
I have one of these in an open case and like you said, temps are great. However when i was testing assetto corsa competizione in vr, i heard the fans ramp up pretty high while in the main menu. Checking temps i saw a whopping 79c... in the main menu. Load 100%. Dont know what its rendering so hard but once i loaded into the car it cooled down almost immediately. Not sure what happened but something to keep in mind.
I paid this much for my evga 2080ti. I just ordered this to upgrade because like you I’m on 4K 120 LG
Very thorough review. Thank you!
Hey. Just found your channel. Glad to see some fellow Canadians are also doing these reviews now. I just have one question about this card. How noisy is this card? I had a MSI Ventus 3x and it was very loud when gaming. Also the noise was high pitched. This one looks a bit better.
Here's a sounds test I did. th-cam.com/users/shortsiXTHUh6JJbo
You deserve more sub from your thorough review
Thanks for the thorough review.
Great review!
Missing vapor chamber has become a feature for this series
Looking at your noise video it looks like your case is on its side, and I'm guessing that's a temporary thing? Did you use the supplied support bracket? Mine didn't come with any screws or instructions, just a couple extra tiny pads, so it's not very clear how you're meant to install it. And it's unlikely it would fit many cases. My GPU retention clip came out of the socket when I had to remove the card to access the only available SATA ports, inconveniently positioned under the GPU! Luckily all seems to be ok but I might have to leave my case on its side from now on. So I'm curious to know if you (or anyone else) fitted the bracket and how it went.
Nice review. Hows the noise vs 3090 Strix during Timespy? If they are comparable that is a win, the Strix is the gold standard for noise and temps. Were you testing using the latest 422 drivers for the 30 series cards? They got boosts in DX12 performance two days ago.
I've got a strix 4090 and ive built a couple of client rigs with the MSI 4090 gaming X and suprim. The strix is definately quieter but the MSI isn't so much louder that I hate it. Strangely the suprim is a little louder than the gaming X, but it also has a higher power limit. They are both good strix is just better by a bit
Great review, thank you.
You giving thermals but not comparing them to anything so what good does it do?
Wanted to see the RGB in action but thanks for the review anyway
I just got this gpu. Can't wait for the eye candy.
Hi man, great video, I'm thinking on picking up one of these, how'd you think this video card will behave with a Ryzen9 5950X and 128GB of DDR4 RAM (3600 mhz) ? would this be enought for a ultra high gaming experience ?
If you're gaming at 4K you shouldn't have any issues, the card will offer you excellent performance. The CPU will be holding back the GPU a bit, but its not going to be a huge difference.
@@DannyzReviews thanks for the info :)
Thanks for this. I was looking for a review on this specific card. Do you have any data on noise levels?
I unfortunately couldn't get noise level data, due to too much ambient noise from nearby HVAC. But characteristically speaking, the fans do run fairly quiet under load, there's a slight hum and that's about it. If anything the card's coil whine is what was more noticeable. Hope this helps.
Did a noise test th-cam.com/users/shortsiXTHUh6JJbo
Thx for testing with This CPU. The Card is 2500 euro over here in Belgium, Damn that hurts...
İ pay 44k turkish lira (2300 dolar). İ think 1600-1800 dollar only for usa we have to pay more in europe ....
Do you think the Suprim is worth the extra cost? I know it has a vapor chamber but these cards already run pretty cool
Tbh I would just get whichever is cheaper. They're all going to perform within margin of each other at the end of the day.
@@DannyzReviews I was thinking the same. Can’t figure out why Asus is charging 2 grand for the Strix
I know this video is quite old, but I just got this card because my 3080 is having trouble with Stable Diffusion. Requires high VRAM that the 4090 will be able to handle. 😀
75 FPS at native 4K ultra in Cyberpunk? From all the videos I have seen, the 4090 averages about 80 FPS at native 4K ultra in Cyberpunk. I have watched TH-camrs like Testing Games benchmark it.
Hey thanks for watching. You do realize that testing games is a FAKE benchmark channel right? They have never once shown physical evidence of owning the hardware they claim to test. I've made a video in the past discussing this topic, it is VERY easy to alter on screen display statistics to fake numbers.
To answer your question, you can find 2 other reputable sites Techpowerup and Computerbase have achieved similar numbers with the 4090 (native) in their testing
www.computerbase.de/2022-10/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-review-test/2/#abschnitt_benchmarks_mit_und_ohne_rt_in_3840__2160
tpucdn.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4090-suprim-x/images/cyberpunk-2077-3840-2160.png
Its simply bcz its 5800x and not 5800x3d
Go back and watch those benchmarks, the thermals are way hotter as well. A lot of those channels. Are either fake or copy paste each other. Only trust review videos like this one.
probably caused he paired it with a crappy amd cpu
@@Gamer-q7v Bruh Jayztwocents, kitgamingtech and Paul's Hardware were also getting around 75-80 fps at 4k ultra (rt off/dlss off). To answer your question, bang4buckpcgamer is definitely real, he even uploaded a video showing his rig on his channel.
awesome review. about to run this with my 5900x on the LG C2.
Have fun!
Planning to buy the same gpu, gaming trio 4090, no melting issues?? Just a genuine question, 🍻
Nice review! Mine is on the way and should be here by this Tuesday. It is the Gaming Trio not the Gaming X Trio... not sure what the difference is.
the X is just a small base OC version....around 15mhz more than non X....you can OC on msi afterburner anyways so they are basically the same.
Thanks for the test. Can you say something about coil whine? Last Gen MSI cards where superior in this manner, with almost no hearable coil noises and I'm hoping for the same with their 4000 cards
There is a bit of coil whine, but you probably won't be able to notice it much with the card installed inside a case, and along with the rest of your case fans.
I did do a noise test, you can find it here th-cam.com/users/shortsiXTHUh6JJbo
Great review.
Did you mount the GPU horizontally or vertically? I know this card is the "thinnest" of most others, but with my 011 dynamic evo, I'm concerned about bending the adaptor cable and am inclined to mount vertically. Concerned about temperatures ...
Pairing the i9 13900k with the 4090 is really good. The 4090 is awesome
Mine arrives tomorrow, can’t wait, wish I had a water block for it.
Hi, i am not a gamer (i am completely loco) i own a great amazing set-up, i own the Tuf Gaming 3090 RTX OC, i really think to but this MSI 4090 Trio X at 2100$ canadian on facebook marketplace in my city, not used, new, bought by someone at Best Buy... what do you think? Should i keep my Tuf Gaming?
I ended up ordering the same GPU. Have you had any over-heating issues with the 3 to 1 PCIe adapter?
I checked mine yesterday and there are no signs of melting thankfully, But I'm paranoid
the melting issues does seem to be associated with a majority of small case or any case with not a lot of rooom between the panel and gpu where the connectors are pressed against the panel enough to slightly bend it overtime can cause them to overheat
25:31 for someone with a 1440p monitor why is the 4090 wasted; have you never heard of Nvidia DSR or resolution scaling? ... Or having a high min frame rate or good ray-tracing frame rate?
Awesome video. 👌
I would love to see the performance to exporting 4k video on davinci resolve
Just curious, what driver version were you running for the testing? 522.25?
Dude you rock!
yo danny, wassup my man i just got this card today and installed it. I can't wait to game at max settings with ray tracing
Ray Tracing aside............I think the real hero in this review is the RX 6800 XT. You can get one now for sub-$600.00 and in these selected titles that were tested the RX 6800 XT did very well matching very close to the RTX 3080 and in some cases the RTX 3090. I picked up an RX 6900 XT myself a couple of months back for $650.00 and I really do like it.
Hey, afaik this card comes with a 3x8pin to 12 pin adapter out of the box, I was wondering how far you could push it if you used a 4x8pin to 12 pin adapter instead? Will it have any OC headroom?
The bios on the card has a 106% power limit, so 477W max (just checked on mine). I've been messing around with it, and I haven't even seen it touch 450W yet even when adding to the core clock (I have a 600W 12VHPWR connector running to it from my PSU).
@@thehulkamaniac5858 Other cards apparently have a 133% power limit... So MSI just kneecapped the Trio series?
@@nevervne I'm pretty sure the suprim can only go to 500 also, even lowering this card to like 80% there's barley any difference in fps then 106%, at least with anything out now, it's a freaking power house
@@nevervne Each card is different. Like I said, I haven't even seen it hit 450W while gaming or benchmarking. After watching Derbauer's videos, it seems like the cards are voltage limited anyways.
Is MSI a trustworthy brand? I have only ever purchased EVGA and we all know what happened with that. So it’s a little scary to throw$1600 on a brand I know nothing about. Also do you think this card is worth it or just wait for the 4080?
I've only dealt with their division in Canada, and so far they've been great. Your experience may vary though in different parts of the world
MSI is one of the most trustworthy brands out there and honestly, if you compare the pricing for the RTX 4080 to the 4090, I would definitely buy the 4090.
What case for this? Dynamic evo, lancool iii, or meshify 2. Thanks
bro which card is better suprim or gaming X trio , what is difference between them. please tell
The Suprim is MSI's top model, it has better cooling and a more premium build, more OC headroom.
Cool stuff. I got the msi gaming one without the trio. Prob just small difference.
Mine arrives on Tuesday!
mine came out to 2,013 usd. 😢 but will be well worthy! I’m upgrading from a 2080 super that I love but it’s not allowing me the freedom of streaming while staying over 100 fps or 120 fps in MW2 1440p res plus I want to play single player titles in 4K.
Am I correct in understanding the 3 8 pin connector will be enough for just gaming at top graphics with the 450watt limit and the 600 watt 4th connector is mainly for over clocking cards?
Going from 450 watts to a 600 watt power target nets you very little if any performance.
in my country this model is 2700 dollars and people in the is are still complaning on high pricing...
mmm what's the score with everything turned on and on max settings that it can put out?
if you had to choose one THIS or the FE card?
It's tough, but I'd probably pick the FE if given the chance, only because it's cheaper in Canada and it's considerably shorter in terms of length so better case compatibility.
just got the gaming trio from Amazon, dont think its the X model however and won't arrive until late november :/
Everything on Amazon is way over MSRP. Stupid to order now for those prices.
@@religionlol7323 got mine for msrp
Interesting.. would be cool if you were able to compare it to other 4090's.
I Appreciate your Video, I am Currently Using a MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 3090. I have someone here locally willing to sell me there MSI Gaming Trio for $1,800 but, I don't feel it is worth it for me. Mine 3090 is still very good. Thank you. I believe, I am going to pass on this offer.
Please compare with ASUS 4090 TUF Gaming.
Because it's Trio's biggest rival.
Can someone tell me why different brands of these graphics are different in price. For example the ASUS strix 4090 and this MSI 4090. If it's the same card why spend extra money. Sorry asking because I don't know and can't find any videos on comparisons.
My 4090 gaming X trio go to 77c, hotspot 90c (silent mode), 455w in Metro exodus Enhanced edition, 4k Extreme settings ultra raytracing no DLSS, physx and hairworks on after 1 hour gaming. How can i see memory temp, GPU-Z doesnt show memory temps.
Use hwinfo. What's your ambient room temp? Does your case have good air flow?
My living room is 19c with open case. Wen i set it to gaming mode temps are more like 67c fanspeed 45%. I can not see the memory temps, its not showing in GPU-Z. But i'm happy with my GPU. Nice review 👌👍
I'd wait for better CPUs before buying the 4090. Probably starting with the next AMD 3D V-cache versions, then we'll start talking.
Any perf. Difference between silent bios and Gaming bios?
WHY THERE IS NO WHITE VERSION WHAT IS THIS MARKETING
The only 40 series card that is a true successor.
No overclocking?
Don't know why but some shops have dropped the price on the 4090
so wait, buying this card with a 1440p monitor is a waste of money? Im getting a AW3423DW qdOLED screeen mostly for HDR and OLED technology that screen delivers.
Not if you like ray tracing and DSR.
The AW3423DW runs at 170hz at 3440x1440. That's roughly 85% the pixels per second as 4k 120hz. I'd definitely say it's worth it there. It's not worth it at lower refresh rates at 1440p, but high refresh rate, or high refresh rate ultra wide, I say go for it if you can afford it.
@@melodywolff6346 thats great to hear thank you!!!
@@melodywolff6346 High refresh is not the same as high res though. You're way more likely to run into cpu issues, and the 4090 won't be as efficient.
@@mag3slay4 Sure, but a lot of games you can run just fine at 170hz without a CPU bottleneck. And 3440x1440 is a larger res than 1440p. Also, with DLSS 3 in a lot of games the CPU bottlenecks won't matter nearly as much, at least, in terms of visual smoothness.
I am waiting for the 4090 Asu Rog to be available... Really want it.
Honestly the 4090 rog strix is way too expensive. It comes in at $2000 and with tax you're looking at almost $2200. If you just get a lower model at $1600 you can basically get a 4k monitor with it as well for $2200.
@@PrettyboyPa What you stated is true but really wanted to get it as a treat to myself.
@@johndeluna692 yep if you got the money and want a beautiful top tier card go for it brother!
I must be doing something wrong. I have a 4090 and an r9 5950x and my 3dmark score for timespy was only 9500.
I got the same card - any take on the adaptor cable which only connects to three 8-pins instead of four which can draw 600w?
Was wondering this as well.
3x8 pin locks power target at 100%. 4x8 pin unlocks to 133%.
@@QuBitGaming isn’t that only for overclocking? For normal gaming there should be no difference?
@@QuBitGaming Incorrect. My gaming x trio with 3x8pin goes to 106%.
480w after i saw tests u dont even need it unless u go for overclocking
I do 1080 x3 multimonitor widescreen = I need the power (if I want the settings turned up), even though I don't have 4K!
I gotta buy a new power supply for this but im hyped
Why is everyone trying to act as if the 3080/6900xt wasn't going for 4090 loot just a year ago? LOL. oh yeah, nice review.
Is it plastic like the last gaming trio?