Only half-way through and I'm amazed! Two tiny suggestions for any future vids on these grips. Like someone mentioned below, it would be nice to see each pitch as it crosses the plate in slo/mo. The other is to take an over-the-shoulder shot of each grip so we can copy you better.
Thank you coach. Great detail. My son is 12 and just had a growth spurt. He is a left handed pitcher and we concentrate on arm care and proper mechanics. He never throws his hardest, we stick to 70%-80%. He throws his fast ball, change up (palm ball), and a knuckle. We will begin concentrating on seam and finger placement. Question. We noticed your glove in the first seconds of the video. What make model is that? Thanks.
Thank you for this good video. Helpful for those grips. Are you going to offer a video showing the movement and where to release the ball in a effect pitch?
Great info. Can you talk abit about arm slot along with the grip. How does arm slot affect the pitch grip if any, and how to adjust the grip for different arm slot. Also how to teach kids with 3/4 arm slot versus over the top.
I never understood why lining up the seams differently in your hand has any effect on the movement of the ball. Perhaps I'd understand it better if I knew how these are released from the hand.
“If a ball is breaking 15 inches but is going 20mph slower than your fastball the hitter is gonna see that and is gonna be able to hit on it” ...unless you’re Zack Greinke.
It is important to show the position of the thumb relative to the middle and index fingers. A pitcher who relies more on a 2-seam fastball will line their thumb up with the index finger inside the “tunnel”. But, each pitcher develops their own preferences. Coaches can only teach the mechanics. The athlete makes adjustments based on how tall they are, the size of their hands, the strength of their legs, etc. Ron Guidry had to develop his pitches much differently than Randy Johnson.
Interesting. In future, maybe zoom in on grip to show it super clearly. Also maybe diagram desired movement, or show game clips. Very helpful. Young pitchers, throw strike one on first pitch.
At 55 I just learned something! Thanks Z the man! Btw , would’ve been cool from the mound and us looking back as the Ump to see how it’s done. Great channel!
Haha, this is really interesting.In New Zealand our main sport is cricket, this was really interesting to see how pitchers throw different balls, it's actually kinda similar to bowlers in cricket..we have seam bowlers, spin bowlers, swing bowlers leg spin bowlers etc etc..cool stuff :)
I have a question: I think it as being a screwball because of the way the pitch is held, but the release, instead of spinning vertically, it is thrown to spin completely sideways. Instead of snapping the wrist forward like the screwball, the wrist is snapped sideways, and can be thrown as routine as a knuckleballer would throw the knuckler. I don't think I've ever thrown this pitch above 50 MPH, but I can confirm that I've thrown it as slow as 32 MPH. And it has BOTH an up and down as well as a left to right movement (It's an outside-in pitch to a right-handed batter with lots of vertical movement). throw/bat: Left/Switch
If you are a lefty and it is going inside on right handed batters it is probably a slider that you are throwing, if it has a lot of vertical movement it could be because you are throwing slow from 60 feet and it is just lobbing in there or it could be actually dropping. Yes you have to snap your wrist sideways like you are opening a door, when you snap your wrist make sure your palm faces away from your body. If you are young I would stay off the screwball but if you're above 16 then it's probably fine as long as you have good mechanics.
@@bobbyshmurda6923 when I release it, my arm from the elbow toward the hand is full on straight up. Then I snap the wrist sideways with my arm in the fully upright position in a counterclockwise motion, meaning the ball will have a counterclockwise sidespin as it leaves my hand. I hope I painted an accurate description for you. Btw, I've been throwing this pitch for 30 years (I'm 50 y/o). And it's best thrown slow. When I release the ball, my palm faces me, but that's because I'm rotating my wrist in the opposite direction as a screwball is thrown, and my fingers are facing up as the ball is released.
@@bobbyshmurda6923 And I feast on right handed batters with that pitch. Yes, I am a southpaw.. It's lefties at the plate that give me issues. My fastball on a good day will barely crack 65 MPH.
Lol my curveball is my slowest pitch and it's my best pitch. 3/4 of my strikeouts this season have been from my curve, just because it's slow doesn't mean hitters will crush it.
I remember reading about Sam McDowell in the late 60s explaining the way he gripped his favorite fastball. The 4 seamer and the way the vertical "seams cut through the air"
I always threw a kind of two-seam circle change and man that pitch had a ton of movement on it. That was my strikeout pitch throughout college even after adding a slider, splitter and curve
I threw that pitch in my 40s with the fingers split wide on the outside of the two seams -- circle-change splitter. No batter ever made solid contact -- not even ex-Big Leaguers -- wish I had learned it in college.
So really its the spin (axis, rpm, velocity) each pitch / pitcher has some unique quality to them. The names of pitches are more tradition than exact. Sure a 12-6 curveball at 75mph is easy to agree but slurve, sweeper, slider, breaking ball apply to other similar but different pitches. As does screwball, circle change, sinker. Or forkball vs split fingered.
I am at an age where I don't know if I could hurt my arm by throwing some of these. I already have the 4 seam, 2 seam, and change up(s). Is there a pitch that you would recommend so that I do not hurt my arm?
i’m playing my first year and i’m 13 and have developed a slider curveball 4 seam and change up with no significant arm pain as long as u don’t over do it u should be gine
hey i know this probably wont be seen but ive tried all these grips and not a single one has worked not even that four seam im really confused what should i do
Anything is safe if done correctly. Generally balls that break arm side are safer because you pronate around the ball when releasing it. Balls that break glove side, like curves and sliders, are more dangerous if you throw them incorrectly and don't take care of your arm.
I've been thinking, can a pitcher use only 2 seam grip, with a little bit of finger offset, to throw sinker/cutter/splitter in exactly the same swing and release? that is, for a righty, move both fingers left and you get a sinker move both fingers right and you get a cutter open up both fingers a little bit and that's a splitter
Yes except for a splitter, you need your fingers on the outside of the widest part of the seams so it can get that drop that you get from a standard change up.
@@jeremiahcrawford7582 is there any pro pitcher really doing this? as i’m aware, textbook cutter is an offset grip 4seamer, is there a pitcher good at offset grip 2seamer as both sinker and cutter?
@@jeremiahcrawford7582 th-cam.com/video/95QMRKLaZOw/w-d-xo.html Just found this clip, Dan mentioned that some 2-seamer learners do throw cutter(glove side) instead of sinker (palm side), just it's a bad cutter, guess it means 2 seam cutter does not break significantly
Love watching the videos and have put them into work with my son, thank you very much. However, I've never received the FREE Pitching Grips Cheat Sheet. I've clicked on the link, but it only takes me to Coach Zack's site to purchase his videos. Do I have to purchase the videos to get the free cheatsheet? Thanks again for the great content.
Screw ball is a good way to mess up ur arm, palmball is just a change up, everyone knows how to throw a knuckleball, slurve, 12-6 and sweeping curve are just determined by your arm slot, if your really over the top it'll be a 12-6, if you are closer to sidearm it'll be a slurve and a sweeping curve is the same as curveball just slower. The people watching these video's are kids/teenagers, no kid is throwing a forkball, a running fastball is a 2 seam, and a Vulcan change is just stupid. The only pitches that are useful that u listed and need different grips are the splitter and the knuckle curve
Ok so two fingers on the center of the ball for every pitch except the chageup is 3 fingers. But how do you make it curve, sink and rise? Do you spin the ball a certain way or something? It looks like you hold the ball the same way for every pitch and what does pressing with your index finger do? I feel like actually explaining how to throw the ball and how to make it curve or sink was needed in this video. I don't see how moving my two fingers a tiny bit over is going to make it a completely different type of pitch. I didn't learn anything from this.
Can anyone answer this. I’m 13 and I throw about 60mph. I used to over power kids but now I have to move up and I will throw average speed. my two seamer breaks in to righty’s a lot (I’m a righty) but I don’t really have a different pitch a lot of the time by the third inning I get hit around cause they just swing earlier. What pitches should I learn to throw?
Back in school I came up with a pitch that was gripped with the middle finger 🖕 only like a splitter and I called it the F U pitch.. Kind of a crazy pitch like it had a 2 seamer tail with splitter fork ball movement. Struck out a lot of batters with that pitch.. I just couldn’t throw hard enough to make it to the majors.
add 20 years for me. Read "How to Pitch" by Bob Feller. Practiced by throwing at a padlock on the garage door and could hit it 9/10 but only at Little League distance. At that age most kids pitching had a hard time controlling getting the ball in the strike zone. Some kids could hit but by not walking and most kids could not hit even a mediocre fastball, strikeout to walk was 11:2 over 6 innings of a game. No one to show anything about pitching or other pitches which likely would not move at the short distance so never learned more as once Little League age limit was reached, no more baseball. Unfortunately, being an over the top pitcher, now, Rotator Cuff issues cause 24/7 pain. Tylenol does help some. Difficult to lift things though and raise the arm much.
I finally found my baseball I've been looking for, for over a month so I went to the baseball field at the park next to my house for five hours and just kept throwing it at the fence behind the ''plate".
i throw a two seam curve and cutter and ive only aloud to hits and 1 earned run in my two starts of pitching and i usally throw my two seam and with two strikes my curves goes at 65mph breaking about 9 inches my cutter is about 74 mph and two seam is 78 to 82 is that good or bad and also i throw a changeup at times at 71 mph
@@elijahbond3247 that’s how you correctly pronounce latter when used in this way, ladder is an object that you climb to get up higher or lower, latter means the second option I believe.
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Great video, but in further pitching tutorials can you show yourself throwing the pitch so we can see what it looks like?
i mean it says pitching grip.
@@enderfire2222 Well ya but I would like to see how the pitch looks coming out of someone's hand so I could compare to mine.
Agreed
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@@LMcFalls16 me to cuz I hit off of a slider that was coming towards me and I was scared
Only half-way through and I'm amazed! Two tiny suggestions for any future vids on these grips. Like someone mentioned below, it would be nice to see each pitch as it crosses the plate in slo/mo. The other is to take an over-the-shoulder shot of each grip so we can copy you better.
Thank you coach. Great detail. My son is 12 and just had a growth spurt. He is a left handed pitcher and we concentrate on arm care and proper mechanics. He never throws his hardest, we stick to 70%-80%. He throws his fast ball, change up (palm ball), and a knuckle. We will begin concentrating on seam and finger placement. Question. We noticed your glove in the first seconds of the video. What make model is that? Thanks.
i’m a year late to this comment, and i might not even be right lol, but it’s a 44 glove and i think it’s the 574 (not 100 percent sure)
Thank you for this good video. Helpful for those grips. Are you going to offer a video showing the movement and where to release the ball in a effect pitch?
Thanks for the tutorial, would be helpful to also see the thumb placement, do you tuck it in or leave it extended.
Explaining what each pitch is supposed to do in flight and how the finger release triggers the movement of those pitches is the most helpful
Great info. Can you talk abit about arm slot along with the grip. How does arm slot affect the pitch grip if any, and how to adjust the grip for different arm slot. Also how to teach kids with 3/4 arm slot versus over the top.
I’m a 14u pitcher with a sinker circle change and a knuckleball I’ve been trying to develop the slider thanks
I never understood why lining up the seams differently in your hand has any effect on the movement of the ball. Perhaps I'd understand it better if I knew how these are released from the hand.
Yes! No mention of witch way they rotating. Top spin bottom spin ect.
“If a ball is breaking 15 inches but is going 20mph slower than your fastball the hitter is gonna see that and is gonna be able to hit on it”
...unless you’re Zack Greinke.
I honestly love greinke he just throws duds and can locate them so well
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It is important to show the position of the thumb relative to the middle and index fingers. A pitcher who relies more on a 2-seam fastball will line their thumb up with the index finger inside the “tunnel”.
But, each pitcher develops their own preferences. Coaches can only teach the mechanics. The athlete makes adjustments based on how tall they are, the size of their hands, the strength of their legs, etc. Ron Guidry had to develop his pitches much differently than Randy Johnson.
that helps alot and im in ozone 11and12 i just started and i can only throw a 2seam and i throw 54
Thank you this is SO helpful!!!!
Interesting. In future, maybe zoom in on grip to show it super clearly. Also maybe diagram desired movement, or show game clips. Very helpful. Young pitchers, throw strike one on first pitch.
For the cutter, and you have a further down arm angle, would you throw it the same way?
At 55 I just learned something! Thanks Z the man! Btw , would’ve been cool from the mound and us looking back as the Ump to see how it’s done. Great channel!
Thanks you this is helpful
Haha, this is really interesting.In New Zealand our main sport is cricket, this was really interesting to see how pitchers throw different balls, it's actually kinda similar to bowlers in cricket..we have seam bowlers, spin bowlers, swing bowlers leg spin bowlers etc etc..cool stuff :)
Hitting a tennis ball has some similarities too.
I have a question:
I think it as being a screwball because of the way the pitch is held, but the release, instead of spinning vertically, it is thrown to spin completely sideways. Instead of snapping the wrist forward like the screwball, the wrist is snapped sideways, and can be thrown as routine as a knuckleballer would throw the knuckler.
I don't think I've ever thrown this pitch above 50 MPH, but I can confirm that I've thrown it as slow as 32 MPH. And it has BOTH an up and down as well as a left to right movement (It's an outside-in pitch to a right-handed batter with lots of vertical movement).
throw/bat: Left/Switch
Can someone make sense out of the garbage I'm throwing?
If you are a lefty and it is going inside on right handed batters it is probably a slider that you are throwing, if it has a lot of vertical movement it could be because you are throwing slow from 60 feet and it is just lobbing in there or it could be actually dropping. Yes you have to snap your wrist sideways like you are opening a door, when you snap your wrist make sure your palm faces away from your body. If you are young I would stay off the screwball but if you're above 16 then it's probably fine as long as you have good mechanics.
@@bobbyshmurda6923 when I release it, my arm from the elbow toward the hand is full on straight up. Then I snap the wrist sideways with my arm in the fully upright position in a counterclockwise motion, meaning the ball will have a counterclockwise sidespin as it leaves my hand.
I hope I painted an accurate description for you. Btw, I've been throwing this pitch for 30 years (I'm 50 y/o). And it's best thrown slow.
When I release the ball, my palm faces me, but that's because I'm rotating my wrist in the opposite direction as a screwball is thrown, and my fingers are facing up as the ball is released.
@@markdubois4882 Lol my bad I have never really thrown a screwball, but yes you are throwing a screwball
@@bobbyshmurda6923 And I feast on right handed batters with that pitch. Yes, I am a southpaw..
It's lefties at the plate that give me issues. My fastball on a good day will barely crack 65 MPH.
Lol my curveball is my slowest pitch and it's my best pitch. 3/4 of my strikeouts this season have been from my curve, just because it's slow doesn't mean hitters will crush it.
Sometimes I hit balls that go a hit slow because I have time to think and get ready to hit but like if it's curving it might be tricky
hey offspeed pitches work for a reason
Nice video coach Justin
This helped me a lot
Ok now, my second pitch is a curveball, so would you recommend for me to work more on my circle change? (Im 11 yrs old)
Is this Zack Kelly pitcher for the Boston Redsox
I remember reading about Sam McDowell in the late 60s explaining the way he gripped his favorite fastball. The 4 seamer and the way the vertical "seams cut through the air"
This helped me so much. Keep up the good work.
Just picked up the bat speed work out for Christmas
Thank you for the videos bro!
I always threw a kind of two-seam circle change and man that pitch had a ton of movement on it. That was my strikeout pitch throughout college even after adding a slider, splitter and curve
I threw that pitch in my 40s with the fingers split wide on the outside of the two seams -- circle-change splitter. No batter ever made solid contact -- not even ex-Big Leaguers -- wish I had learned it in college.
So really its the spin (axis, rpm, velocity) each pitch / pitcher has some unique quality to them. The names of pitches are more tradition than exact. Sure a 12-6 curveball at 75mph is easy to agree but slurve, sweeper, slider, breaking ball apply to other similar but different pitches. As does screwball, circle change, sinker. Or forkball vs split fingered.
I am at an age where I don't know if I could hurt my arm by throwing some of these. I already have the 4 seam, 2 seam, and change up(s). Is there a pitch that you would recommend so that I do not hurt my arm?
i’m playing my first year and i’m 13 and have developed a slider curveball 4 seam and change up with no significant arm pain as long as u don’t over do it u should be gine
He did a great video. I recommend it 👍 Five star review right there
Thanks great lecture
Thanks for the video!
I like coach Justin better he brings positive energy
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I agree
hey i know this probably wont be seen but ive tried all these grips and not a single one has worked not even that four seam im really confused what should i do
What do you use to edit your vids
You forewent thumb angle /placement on the change up, which is a necessity
Thank you for the vid. And are all these pitches safe to throw like a fastball? If that makes sense.
Anything is safe if done correctly. Generally balls that break arm side are safer because you pronate around the ball when releasing it. Balls that break glove side, like curves and sliders, are more dangerous if you throw them incorrectly and don't take care of your arm.
I've been thinking, can a pitcher use only 2 seam grip, with a little bit of finger offset, to throw sinker/cutter/splitter in exactly the same swing and release?
that is, for a righty, move both fingers left and you get a sinker
move both fingers right and you get a cutter
open up both fingers a little bit and that's a splitter
Yes except for a splitter, you need your fingers on the outside of the widest part of the seams so it can get that drop that you get from a standard change up.
@@jeremiahcrawford7582 is there any pro pitcher really doing this? as i’m aware, textbook cutter is an offset grip 4seamer, is there a pitcher good at offset grip 2seamer as both sinker and cutter?
@@jeremiahcrawford7582 th-cam.com/video/95QMRKLaZOw/w-d-xo.html
Just found this clip, Dan mentioned that some 2-seamer learners do throw cutter(glove side) instead of sinker (palm side), just it's a bad cutter, guess it means 2 seam cutter does not break significantly
Love watching the videos and have put them into work with my son, thank you very much. However, I've never received the FREE Pitching Grips Cheat Sheet. I've clicked on the link, but it only takes me to Coach Zack's site to purchase his videos. Do I have to purchase the videos to get the free cheatsheet? Thanks again for the great content.
When I throw, do I push my fingers down when I throw or not?
Great vid, just, I'd just like to see the entire hand view, especially with the thumb.
Did he keep his dip in his lip when recording this video? HAH! Thanks for the tips.
Idk how you only have 200k subs. Thank you for these videos!
No screwball, palmball, knuckleball/knucklecurve, running fastball, slurve, forkball, splitter, 12-6 curveball, sweeping curve or vulcanchange?
Screw ball is a good way to mess up ur arm, palmball is just a change up, everyone knows how to throw a knuckleball, slurve, 12-6 and sweeping curve are just determined by your arm slot, if your really over the top it'll be a 12-6, if you are closer to sidearm it'll be a slurve and a sweeping curve is the same as curveball just slower. The people watching these video's are kids/teenagers, no kid is throwing a forkball, a running fastball is a 2 seam, and a Vulcan change is just stupid. The only pitches that are useful that u listed and need different grips are the splitter and the knuckle curve
Ok so two fingers on the center of the ball for every pitch except the chageup is 3 fingers. But how do you make it curve, sink and rise? Do you spin the ball a certain way or something? It looks like you hold the ball the same way for every pitch and what does pressing with your index finger do? I feel like actually explaining how to throw the ball and how to make it curve or sink was needed in this video. I don't see how moving my two fingers a tiny bit over is going to make it a completely different type of pitch. I didn't learn anything from this.
Can anyone answer this. I’m 13 and I throw about 60mph. I used to over power kids but now I have to move up and I will throw average speed. my two seamer breaks in to righty’s a lot (I’m a righty) but I don’t really have a different pitch a lot of the time by the third inning I get hit around cause they just swing earlier. What pitches should I learn to throw?
I don't understand the 4 seam when his 2 fingertips are only pulling down on the one across. Someone help me out?
Nice video!
What about the Knuckle Ball? And the Knuckle-Curve Ball?
Man I love your stuff !! More videos on this !!
Your awesome dude and awesome video be safe out there
Back in school I came up with a pitch that was gripped with the middle finger 🖕 only like a splitter and I called it the F U pitch.. Kind of a crazy pitch like it had a 2 seamer tail with splitter fork ball movement. Struck out a lot of batters with that pitch.. I just couldn’t throw hard enough to make it to the majors.
i use that in wiffleball
Annunciation would help.
Thanks coach
Is this at Rip City
Thank you that was very helpful
Wow, if this guy gets anymore excited for this video, a funeral will break out.
is the cheat sheet good?
I throw four seam two seam change up knuckle curve, curve ball, knuckle
Thank you
thank you!
i learned how to throw a curve before i learned the changeup. i dont regret it at all ive strucken out so many people with it
And you’ve also destroyed your arm lol
Who cares.js
im not the worlds greatest pitcher(haven’t pitched in a game ever) but i tried to throw a sinker and i saw it break from the mound
What! Really
Awesome vidio where were you when i was 9yrs old 58yrs old now
add 20 years for me. Read "How to Pitch" by Bob Feller. Practiced by throwing at a padlock on the garage door and could hit it 9/10 but only at Little League distance. At that age most kids pitching had a hard time controlling getting the ball in the strike zone. Some kids could hit but by not walking and most kids could not hit even a mediocre fastball, strikeout to walk was 11:2 over 6 innings of a game. No one to show anything about pitching or other pitches which likely would not move at the short distance so never learned more as once Little League age limit was reached, no more baseball. Unfortunately, being an over the top pitcher, now, Rotator Cuff issues cause 24/7 pain. Tylenol does help some. Difficult to lift things though and raise the arm much.
I have this really good curve that I randomly made up but it’s fire
I doubt it
Thanks
You're welcome!
Are you always trying to expect each pitch to be in the strike zone?
I watched this video and just signed a contract with the Yankees. This video is legit.
I finally found my baseball I've been looking for, for over a month so I went to the baseball field at the park next to my house for five hours and just kept throwing it at the fence behind the ''plate".
You need to add on how you're actually throwing it and maybe put some videos in on the different pitches
yes you are right he is not showing how you throw some of these pitches.
i throw a two seam curve and cutter and ive only aloud to hits and 1 earned run in my two starts of pitching and i usally throw my two seam and with two strikes my curves goes at 65mph breaking about 9 inches my cutter is about 74 mph and two seam is 78 to 82 is that good or bad and also i throw a changeup at times at 71 mph
how old r u?
@@jmcd2053 14
14 is it good for 14
@@AlexMalcomUX yes
"Mariano Rivera is ONE of the best closers of all time" one? or the best? Definitely the latter
Ladder*
@@elijahbond3247 that’s how you correctly pronounce latter when used in this way, ladder is an object that you climb to get up higher or lower, latter means the second option I believe.
If I knew this back when I was in high school my career would have turned out a lot different
Are you at rip coty
helped so much
Where has this video been my entire life
During one of my baseball games one of the opposing teams pitchers hurt his arm throwing curve balls so you have to be careful about throwing them.
That would’ve meant it was hurting before the game
I've been to the place he's at I had batting practice there
Not being a pitcher, I can't follow the techniques and I don't understand how it looks when thrown.
I love these videos the only thing I don't like is how he does not shot him throwing it
I was throwing curves when I was seven
I MADE THE TEAM FROM NOT PLAYING IN 7 YEARS!!!
The RISING CURVEBALL should be in ur arsenal watch the pitch it’s nasty
What has happened to your channel icon
🤷♂️ TH-cam is working on getting it fixed!
@@UltimateBaseballTraining oh no wonder
No knuckle ball?
The 4 seam is called 4 seam cause of the four seams that rotate see the air as it rotates.
I'm 57 I wish I new this stuff when I was 13. Then at 16 I had surgery on my back and lost everything.
Dawg I go to rip city
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Now can you do a vid about "Pitches recommended 8-11 year olds"?
Just throw a fastball probably, form is more important than pitches then. Maybe a circle change.
@@honeyleaf2499 ok thanks
The 2seam sinker is what i wanna See
Rosin is a legal substance. Let's start there.
Great bowlers should be good pitchers.
Why would you make a video like this without showing the pitch?
I thot the first Change up was a circle change
i throw curve balls and thats all i throw they were natrual for me
Knuckleball,knucklecurve,screwball,slurve,ephus???????????????