Structural Engineer vs Architect - Design Meeting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2019
- A structural engineer is a part of the design team for all my residential work in the studio. In this video you'll join me for the kick-off meeting with my structural engineer as we begin developing the structural design for the Outpost project. You’ll see how we choose a foundation strategy, work through framing + detail ideas, and understand how lateral loads are transferred and how they affect the materials we choose to build with. The professional tug-of-war between engineer and architect isn't adversarial, rather it's collaborative and makes for a better, more efficient project.
The most interesting part of our dialogue begins around minute eighteen where I ask Albert to comment on one of the most common objections I hear from contractors in the field: "This structure is way over-engineered." His answer illuminates how a structural engineer can complement the architectural design process in ways you may not have anticipated. Not only do engineers help us to efficiently size structural members and optimize the design, but their practical building knowledge and field experience can prove invaluable.
Because an engineer’s work is smaller in scope, (their fee is typically about 10% of an architectural fee), they must secure 10X the number of commissions to make a comparable income. This naturally exposes them to many more projects (in theory 10X), ideas, and failures than an architect would typically see. And, it’s those failures that are the most instructive. This symbiotic relationship between architect and engineer has benefitted my practice and my clients in ways that are difficult to calculate but that surely far exceed the engineering fees invested.
Structural engineering is more than sizing beams, designing connections and specifying concrete mixes, it’s an allied discipline which helps to make our jobs as architects easier and to deliver a home that meets (and often exceeds) our client’s expectations.
Although this footage is but a small sampling of our conversation, you can appreciate the give and take that a typical design collaboration entails. As professionals, we rely on the expertise of many consultants to realize our architectural goals.
This is a long video, here’s a few timestamps to guide you:
0:30 ** General Site + Foundation Considerations
4:05 ** Architectural Goals
5:02 ** Roof Design + Framing
6:36 ** Eave Detail
8:55 ** Possible vs. Practical
10:00 ** Designing for Lateral Loads
13:24 **Transferring the loads: bracing (wood vs. steel)
18:12 ** “This feels over-engineered” - The most common complaint I hear from contractors in the field (DON’T MISS THIS SECTION)
22:09 ** Value of engineers from an Architect’s perspective
23:43 ** 10X Projects, 10X Failures, 10X Knowledge (a convincing case for collaborating with engineers)
25:10 ** Engineer’s steel manual vs. Architect’s steel manual
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Hello! Love your videos! Can you tell me what software do you use for video editing?
Architecture in our country we are studying lessons about resistance, materials, concrete, physics, and soil mechanics, whether or not you are in your country
this engineer is very well spoken it’s mind blowing how he keeps someone engaged and interested a conversation about construction
He's a natural. I wouldn't be surprised if he seduced his now wife by talking her into his new costruction project during their first date.
Construction isn't any harder to keep someone interested than other topics.
@@luissorsini lmaoo
So construction's boring?
Engineers are always mind blowing.😀
At my old firm, our structural engineer was 82 and still sharp as a tack. He worked on the original WTC and countless other impressive projects. Those meetings with him were by far the best because you're the one that now has to sit, listen, and learn. He would calmly look over the architecturals and bust out his calculator and start pumping out calculation after calculation, sizing beams and joists and always making sure that his structurals wouldn't interfere with our designs. RIP Franz
Great Legacy
Franz no doubt had some fascinating opinions with regard to the potential for burning jet fuel to compromise and weaken a massive steel structure (two of them) specifically over-engineered to withstand several such incidents simultaneously.
was he german? I think i heard about him...
That’s sad 😞 rip
Christian Boran is there job in architecture?I've a Bsc in Biology but i've n ever been fascinated by this field and i'd like to work as an architect ,carrying out projects and seeing my ideal design coming to life. Is this a romantic conception of architecture? Would you suggest me to start studying architecture? I'm from Italy
The words every architect would love to hear from engineers:
"We'll make it work "
#teamwork
The words every engineer wants to hear from architects: "Yeah that makes sense. Let's do it that way."
In the end it's about finding a good middle ground.
Not when you think a floor can flood in the air or a piece of glass can brace its own.
Invert that part, thé chickend is not first than egg you need a architec Project to make thé calculation but if you can work in a project in 0 together could be better
@@lars7935 Even more complicated is making sure labor can build it and the client can pay for it. It's nice to see the Architect here acknowledge regularly simplicity of build and sensitivity to cost. So fun to watch
Im sure it comes with the paygrade
The architect is the dreamer and the engineer is the genie making his wishes come true
Aladdin movie👨🕌🐒✨🔮
engineer need to fallow the dream because they dont dream👨✨
It's a saying, every architect dream is a nightmare for the engineer. Still a great architect and a great engineer can build and plan wonderful works.
No thats not even close to being true. The architect is usually the one saying telling the engineer that he has to find a cheaper solution because there isn't money in the budget.
Guys yall look down too much on architects.. .
fun fact: you didn't search for this but you actually stayed and watch
@@kolomonsane9013 20 min here, but it was mildly interesting.
i did, i've been watching this process for a while
I wasn’t looking but I do need a structural Engineer soon so it was very informative.
I searched for it...
Lol so true
This video makes me realize that I need to get better at speaking cohesively and professionally while keeping cool. Oof.
Yep, people skills and good communication are key to so much.
Cool.
Coherently^ no hate, just helping you out brother :)
what do you mean by keeping cool
@@Julian-we6qg Being persuasive (convincing the architect that something needs to be changed to be structurally allowable) without being antagonizing, I suppose.
Construction is an interesting industry. It's easy to see an architect as the master designer and be-all and say-all of a project. But there is a definite pecking order which everyone getting into the industry should understand...
An architect designs a building to look nice, they make the pretty pictures and decide where the doors go and essentially sell the project to a client, they will have final say on anything as they are essentially taking responsibility for the design of a project.
The main contractor (general contractor in the US) is the company/person paid by the client to build the project which has been envisioned by the architect. They are ultimately the top dog, they are the ones spending the clients budget to make the project a reality, if they can deliver under budget then they make more money, if costs spiral then they lose money or have to beg the client for more. The actual extent of works that a main contractor will carry out themselves depends on their abilities.
The engineer liases with both the architect and the main contractor as well as relevant sub contractors to figure out what is actually required to make the thing not fall down and kill someone or that the building doesn't fail in slightly less important ways. They have to do this for the lowest possible costs otherwise the main contractor will not be happy. If they massively over engineer things, the main contractor will lose money, if they under engineer things, the building and lives may be at risk.
Subcontractors work for the main contractor and perform smaller elements of the main project, their works are typically much more specialised such as glazed and cladded facades, elevators, modular building elements, even down to steelworks, concrete works, balconies, canopies, rooflights, mechanical and electrical elements, security consultants, environmental impact contractors as well as about 30 other trades and specialists.
I work as a designer for a facade contractor, we design a solution to try to meet the specification of both the architect and engineer while maintaining the requirements (in cost and performance) set out by the main contractor.
Finally you have the boots on the ground, the people actually constructing the building. They have to work at a level of detail which is almost impossible to appreciate in paper right up until the highest detail of 3d models. They are the ones who realise that the opening cupboard door is clashing on the side of an oven. Or that a cladding panel is 3mm too short resulting in an excessive gap around an opening or that an EPDM seal is not sufficient in the corner of a curtain walking screen.
Construction is only possible because everyone works to their strengths.
This was an amazing read, thank you!
Excellent description. The cabinetmakers need more mention though. Maybe a few paragraphs outlining how great they are and how they make the architect look like a hero. Also you could mention that most cabinetmakers are incredibly handsome and the owners love to hang around them. Basically, without cabinetmakers the whole construction industry would crash and burn. I'm not biased, of course. Just sayin'. Peace, from Canada.
Can't like this twice, so i'll just comment to testify this as true. I used to work in the main contractor and being in the engineering division was one hell of a challange as you'll seriously need to contact the architect often times about microdesigns of the building and solve it together. Sometimes it's not even about the design, it's just that it couldn't be as ideal as drawn and we got to compromise.
Very well said..😍😁
Uhm... I don't know much about how the industry works on your side of the world, but I see you don't mentioning a Quantity Surveyor... even the American shows on cable TV about renovation and stuff I never see them Consulting with a Quantity Surveyor. How come that is?
as a college junior in civil engineering this is such a cool conversation to watch
so Statics is useful after all... (lol)
@@maxrybold1531 if you couldn't tell statics was useful when you took the class, you're an idiot. Not only that, statics is one of the easier courses at most engineering schools.
BrandonF216 statics was very hard for me, the reason I decided to focus on the transportation side of civil
@BrandonF216 Ok understanding the theory behind forces and how they act in R^3 is very practical; the M_0, F_Rxn, M_i, etc. And your bluffing if you think static is easy. Ok maybe the first half of the questions at the end of each chapter, yet there are some pretty challenging ones. Also I was sarcastically speaking 😆
@@maxrybold1531 relative to some of the other courses taken, statics is pretty easy. I'm talking thermo, fluids, circuits, dynamics, materials etc
(Good Engineer + Good Architect) = Perfect Design 😍
well said!
Nice one sir sad to say here in the Philippines poor practice of profession
@@esojabuc2151 true sir, pangit ang sistema, they dont value schematics
@@komentor1993 yes sir sna they educate the true value for each profession na dpat nag start palang sa school sa mga aspiring professional
Its so nice having a sibling or close people that can make your dream home come true. Btw im a student pusuing either engineering or architecture i will take soon in collage.
It's nice to see a video talking more about the structural aspects of buildings for a change. It would be nice to see some more of your videos on your thought process of structural designs.
yes maybe some collaboration with other design allieds that would be super awesome
Completely agree! Its nice to see something so practically informative.
Just adding another like so it won't stay at 666. 😌 Kidding. The engineer is pretty impressive.
I have never seen a duo of educated men talk so respectfully and collaborate this well with one another. There was no power tripping or ego, just communication and solutions. Incredible!
This is my industry and how the vast majority of our conversations go. That's why I can't understand why people get so emotionally attached their ideas. They're just ideas. What you should want is the best solution and so, you should want everyone to put their best ideas up for consideration. Being attached to your own ideas just makes everything difficult. People won't want to collaborate with you, and your solutions will be sub-optimal. See also: the current state of our world.
Thats so cool rigth?
ahhh I see... so this is what engineers do...
(I have an engineer degree, and apparently, I learned nothing.)
Hate to admit it but i learned fairly lot here in youtube than most of my class.
@Sumaya Ben Saad if I you are creative, the design aspects would come naturally to you. You wouldn't learn to think on top your head like in this video in structural engineering but structural engineering knowledge would give useful knowledge of how your architectural design is being considered from structural point of view and wether if it's compliant with the law and design codes in the respective country. Be prepared it's long and sometimes tiresome calculations, however if you combine your knowledge of architectural, structural and some softwares' knowledge like AutoCAD and Revit then you will be a very well rounded person
You should remember that this engineer probably has years of experience in this specific field of structural engineering, years of conversing with architects about similar projects.
It's impressive to watch professionals who are good at what they do, something to aspire to perhaps.
@Sumaya Ben Saad Hi I'm in similar situation. I would argue design is creativity focused but def need a long term training by mentors not just by yourself. Structural engineering is very helpful to architectural design but they don't equal to each other. I reckon structural engineer requires high attention to details and maybe less creativity, maybe. Architects might have to deal with clients in a more personal way, as designers we learn what the clients want and present and persuade the general public our ideas. Go with what you love or what your personality are like. Think about what the job is like.
Same here bro
21:21 "If it's been built a million times, you don't need a structural engineer. But once there's something unique about the design, that's when professionals get brought in."
Also you need a P. E. stamp on your final engineering design.
@@adityadeshmukh6426 if it has been built a millions times it doesn't matter every site has unique characteristics, you can't pick drawings from one site and transpose it on a different site.
Take foundation for instance would you propose the same foundation for different site with different soil characteristics and Bearing Capacity.
What protection would you provide to mitigate dampening etc.
If the lot you are building is such that you need to build close it a wall or fence and the footing needs to be designed differently , think about the eccentric loading situations etc.
Environmental conditions like wind, seismic... Do both sites have the same characteristics.. Definitely not.
Always employ a professional.
@@michaelacheampong2869 i thought the foundation is part of the design. If the foundation design is unique because of a unique environment then you need to bring a professional.
@@chandy3859 I never claim the foundation isn't part of the design. The foundation is always unique two sites are never the same.
Would you use the same foundation for an area that has a high water table and one which doesn't.
@@chandy3859 Yes it is part of the design.
One of the greatest videos I’ve seen on TH-cam in a while
YOU ABS RIGHT, I LOVE IT!!!!!
As an aspiring structural engineer, I have to say this is one of my favorite videos of @30X40 Design Workshop! This engineer is so well spoken and the visuals help explain the details discussed in this meeting.
Cheers!
@@30by40 please create more content like this. Long form, detailed - setting the conversational bar
I’m in my third year of architecture school and I have always wondered how a conversation and negotiation between a structural engineer and an architect would be played out. This is very helpful. If you could, im sure many future architects would appreciate future conversations between you two again. Just thank you!
The effort put in this channel is amazing, as an architecture student it makes me feel that I choose the right path.
Wait till you get to work with a great engineer. It will make you sing...
what should i major in to persue architecture
As a technical drafter who's aspiring to be an architect, this actually just became one of my all-time favorite videos. I've always respected and have had interest in structural engineering emphasizing my deep interest in the powerful relationship between architects and engineers (even regarding the banter and headbutting between both fields at times lol) This kind of relationship and collaboration is legitimately what initates the creation and manifestation of unique structural spaces that impact multitudes of lives each and every day. I felt like an intern student who got an opportunity to sit and witness two masters collaberate lol
Awesome work truly!
Darius Worrell . Great informative video. I am also a draftsman who is trying to work my way up, I like both architecture and structural engineering, a friend of mine who is an architect encourage me to do both.
Yes one of may favourite Architects/Engineers is Santiago Calatrava.
1 thing i would fear is this doesnt happen veary often or more like these type of jobs are very limited, i as a drafter get to go to some meetings and they mostly dont go to this level of detail and discussion. this project also doesnt look like the average project?
Calatrava's designs are epic but only if you want to go over a million times over budget. That is something that isn't thought in school.
Im a mechanical engineer and this vide is just soooo interesting!
I first watched this video when I was still in high school, confused on what to study in college, whether structural engineering or architecture. I did not understand anything way back then.
Now that I am a first year college studying structural engineering, I'm happy to understand their conversation even just a little.
5 years from now, hopefully when I graduate, I'll comeback here and try to understand this completely.
Having spent many years as a consulting engineer, I think this was a good demonstration of a typical meeting between an architect and engineer. Also, the engineer’s response to “is this really necessary?” was excellent. It’s not just a matter of will the building fall down if lesser materials and methods are used. It’s about the level of quality and performance that is achieved.
THIS IS FASCINATING! You guys speak so patiently and thoroughly. I can imagine this meeting was hours long, if not, at least an hour. There is no interrupting or impatience at all it seems. I can't WAIT to see the final product.
Definitely the one I've been waiting on. Shout out to Albert. Happy holidays to you Eric, your work makes the world a better place!
Thank you for putting such an in depth look into a day in the actual work life of engineers and architects! It is extremely helpful for those considering different career options, such as myself.
I watched this video 1 year ago for the first time because I was going to an interview in a structural design office. Here I am again, after a bit of experience in practice, I'm happy to understand better their conversation! That would be great to have more of those interactions between arch and engineers professionals!
I can't say how awesome these videos are! I'm currently getting an associates degree in Architectural Engineering and Building Sciences... It's super cool to see a professional interaction at this stage of the process. Super informative and interesting to watch video! Well done!
yo! i'm thinking of majoring in architectural engineering. how is it? is it worth studying?
@@ash-zm7ol I can't speak on what it's like to be an engineering student, my degree is in Drafting & Design Technology, but speaking as a draft designer, learning how to read structural sections and plans are definitely worth it. It's like having the ability to see through houses almost. That was one of the biggest hurdles to overcome when I got employed at my current firm. I think Eric actually has a structural section book somewhere in his list.
@@ash-zm7ol it's like solving a really really big puzzle. It's so big since there are so many aspects to the design process. Currently it's just a tidal wave of information I was previously ignorant of!
@HeatEnd it's a 2 year degree designed to get people ready for a specific career quickly. I might get my bachelors afterwards.
Nice! I’m almost done with getting my civil (structural) engineering bachelors. I love this stuff! Keep at it and good luck
Every job and project I produce is fully engineered. It's a very integral part of the design | build process. Many times they request changes to a design to make engineering more cost efficient, and it's a dance that we do back and forth to achieve the vision of the design and how its built, without either having to compromise. Great video.
100% agree...a difficult dance to learn, it's always different...! thanks for your comment and for watching...
@@30by40 this video is spectacular. Your video editing is quite cinematic, and I mean that as a good thing. The improvements you've consistently made, have not gone unnoticed.
At some points, I actually had to stop myself from focusing on how good the editing is, and pay attention to the discussion.
The discussion was also very interesting.
Eric ! You always find a way to inspire. Keep breaking the boundaries of architecture and education. Your definitely on to something. Much Love from Boston.
This video was an experience! I was so intrigued throughout the entire video, especially as someone who just finished school for Archictural Technology and Drafting. Thank you for this!
Saw that Peter Zumthor is one of your reference, I love how he cure the details. Compose poetry with material concistency. Really like your video from Italy. I'm a student and I love your dimension of architecture; not big studios, but take your time to think and create humble and tangible architecture.
I'm an Archiectural Technology student from the UK so this was absolutely fascinating for me to watch, keep up the great work, your work never ceases to inspire me
AT student from Canada here hope for all the best in your studies!
@@karl5428 aw thanks, you too!
Structural Engineering student from india.... It's fascinating to meet people of same background.... We should ake our own community
@@hrishikeshkalshetti7299 is there enough design and modelling in this type of degree or is it just maths
Are not worried about getting a job coming out of university ? Because After research i feel if I do architecture I may struggle to get a well paid job
This is one of the best videos I have watched in 2019. As someone involved with buildings design I extremely value the importance of the interaction between the professionals for good end results.
Super informative! Thank you so much for uploading this - for someone like me who is structural engineer with only a year of experience this is gold. And this engineer did such a great job in talking about it so smoothly with ease. Need more videos like this!
It is amazing to see how you put this video around a work meeting. The importance of the collaboration between architects and structural engineers is often overlooked in schools, so it is quite cool to see your approach to this subject in your projects.
This is amazing! I'm from Swaziland and I've been watching your uploads for awhile now and they've helped me so much through my studies! I just completed my second degree with a 3.5 in Malaysia. i couldn't thank you enough, keep doing amazing things! God Bless you!
What a premium service that an engineer can sit face to face and discuss in such a thorough manner!
Eric, I'm an architect in UK, and this video is pure gold! Thanks so much for sharing, its rear to see this sort of live interaction between design team members unless you are in a meeting yourself. Also I like how articulate the engineer is - many aren't! He also should have a TH-cam channel!
I couldn't say enough about how amazing your contents are especially this one. I have so much respect for you sir Eric. You're one of my inspirations as an aspiring architect.
As a Civil Engineering Graduate I am really inspired by the way these two professionals conduct themselves, and most importantly the great work that they are doing. Keep it up !!
I love how you show the discussion between the gap in Structural Engineer and Architect in designing a building. There's so much consideration in a project. The good communication is the key to achieve the sustainable design.
This is an example to show that every engineers and architects should cooperate and not be stubborn about something.
Keep up the good work! Love the video though
Must be quite fun for the clients to watch how their project develops step by step. Kind of the behind the scenes of their house. Nice video btw interesting to see what goes into constructing the house.
This is a very bright Engineer who knows how to explain hus work well. So grateful to you
Great video! Loved the discussion and I actually learned a few new things and new perspectives. Hope you would keep making these every now and then. As an architecture student I have to say that I'm grateful your videos present so much insight of an architect's life, while at the same time helping me expand my knowledge. Even the editing is on point. Love your content.
exactly what was needed.
I am a fashion designer and subscriber of 30x40 for the last almost four years, I love to see the amount of information, cinematic filming, and all aspects of architectural design coming from your side in beautiful manner. many thanks
I love working with my struct. engineer! I learn something from him on every project and of course - I think he has learned from me.
3 minutes in and initial reaction is that this video is gorgeous. You consistently level up with each effort. Much appreciated.
Hi, I'm a recent subscriber to your channel and as an experienced UK architect, I must say how impressed I was with this video. The clear and articulate explanation your engineer gave as to how, when and why an engineer can be crucial to a project was really excellent. He was also a much better sketcher than pretty much every other engineer - and a lot of architects - I've encountered over the last 30 years! You both exemplify the spirit of collaboration and care for the finished product, demonstrating exactly how a building should be designed. The high production values you have in the videos is also refreshing and must take a considerable amount of time to achieve. Cheers for this and keep up the fantastic work, Fraser
Young and upcoming architects, this is perhaps one of the most valuable videos on youtube. I remember in our first year of architecture school they taught us to scrunch up a piece of paper and draw inspiration from it. Well as an architect, structure and how the building will be built and supported should always be in the back of your mind as you design.
Great video! I practice structural engineering and even have my own TH-cam structural engineering channel, I hope to do for the structural engineering industry what you've done for the architectural industry! Thanks for the inspiration!
Oh hey Mat! Cool to see you here too. Your videos are awesome xd
Hey @Mat Picardal good to (virtually) meet you...keep up the great work on your channel, I know how much work goes into making video content and really glad to see others in the design profession willing to share their voice. Cheers...
@@30by40 Thanks Eric, yes, definitely a lot of work, especially while working full-time as you know. Glad I can relate to someone in the AEC community. Have a great new year!
Mat!! You have awesome structural engineering videos! Great to see you here haha.
I know your channel, definitely recommend it
listening to these two guys talk is amazing
As a student, these types of videos are extremely useful for how to problem solve issues and find solutions with others, and bounce ideas. Love it.
This video simply proves that you need great communication and listening skills. This is important for most of the engineer jobs.
This is amazing! Colaboration, the talk between peofessionals to reach an end goal is truly an experience. I don't know if I'm geeking out, but I think it's pretty cool. Have you done a video about talking to other Engineers, contractors, interior designers, etc.? That can be a great series on it's own. Of course, construction videos is another series, but you know ...😁. Yup, I think I geeked out a bit. Great chanel, Sir. Please do more. Cheers, and keep on rocking.
Loved this video!!! so awesome to see two professions corroborate! I love how you showed us a part of the meeting to give us a sense of the type of communication that takes place between an architect and engineer. Also, the final part where you guys elaborated on the purpose of Engineering's involvement in the process. give us more!!! we need to see the kitchen))))
Brilliant collaboration gentlemen! The marriage of two skill sets and highly talented individuals is such a beautiful thing to see.
I'm an architecture student and this video should be part of the curriculum. A window into a real meeting between professionals is such a rare thing to get to witness.
This popped up on my recommendations and I must say this video is enjoyable. 10/10
It was worth the wait..
Over here, contractors question the need of an architect more than questioning an engineer..
Well presented and Albert's explanations are easily understandable..
Thanks for sharing something new..
I just binge watched about 10 of the 30 x 40 videos and this was the best. The engineer is wicked smart! Sometimes extreme competence is expressed so smoothly that it almost seems like a sales pitch. Well done.
I'm an architecture student and watching this got me so excited and inspired.
It's refreshing to see structural engineering being highlighted in an architectural design video. I think most people don't realize how crucial it is to have an engineer involved in the process. You can't just have a pretty house that will only last for a year or two. And yes, you can always size building elements yourself but will it be enough to make the building safe and be cost-efficient at the same time.
I've talked too much. 😂
I just started watching and it’s already over..
Great video I really really enjoyed it!! 👍
Really great video. Very rare that you get to see and hear such a detailed walk-through of the thought process with real and practical advice. Keep up the good work.
Every single video on your channel is absolutely engaging and interesting. Love this channel mate
I miss design review meetings. Regardless of the engineering disciplines, the engineering design review sessions are still an awesome experience.
I love this video, I hope some of your clients get to see the effort that goes into the background of design and how the dialog between the different services come together to form the project. Anyone that wants to show the true value in what we all do in the construction profession then refer them to this video. And so true of builder of hand comments and then soon back track when they are out of their depth and then don’t perform later.
I want to thank you so much for this video. I'm a civil engineer (similar to a structural engineer) in the making and this was particularly insightful.
As a studying third-year architectural technologist, we are subjugated to a plethora of design variables. It seems we become a coordinator of disciplines. Seeing this conversation happen on the ominous "other side" of the architectural realm warms my heart to know that even 'designer-centric' architects are still cognizant and resourceful in facing these sorts of design problems.
Both of you guys are excellent at your jobs, and even though in Canada we build primarily for a warming environment, there are still similar design philosophies about repeatable construction / durability and costing that carry the design forward. In the discipline of construction as a whole, all need each other at some point or another and it's neat to see a glimpse of how it works outside the classroom.
Thank you for documenting your fabulous work - it serves as a huge inspiration to many. :)
You're one of my heroes, man. Such a professional.
that's so awesome, very enlightening. Structure engineers should be best friends with architects to have such open and meaningful discussions.
The best video of the series so far. Loved it! Keep them coming. Learning more practical here than what I picked up in school. Thank you.
I wasn't looking for this video but I'm so happy that TH-cam recommend me to watch it. Thanks!
Can't wait for my project evaluation skills to be on this engineers level. Straight up goals.
Loved listening to every second of this video, things I've always assumed to be more the Architects sole responsibility I now see that they more of a collaboration.
Really great way to practically show how engineers and architects collaborate on a project. It's not always clear to people who don't work in construction how exactly this goes down and who is responsible for what. Thanks for making this one, great content!
We could only wish that every structural engineer is as knowledgeable as this guy. Not just technical knowledge but his experience and knowledge of the locality is impressive!
Looking at them, make me realized that i learned nothing in my college life and far away to be called professional or even a junior architect! Nice video! Love to see the 'world' in works, waiting for ur next video!
Great video! I could watch these detail heavy videos all day!!
I just started working in a bureau a year ago after 4 years of arch education and this meeting seems pretty accurate. I appreciate that the Architect let the SE talk and spitball. Good video!
Amazing what the sinergy between these two great professionals can do! Wonderful projects and structures!
I enjoyed this immensely... I also looked at my Steel Manual and it is the seventh edition....regrettably I haven't practiced structural engineering since a couple of years out of school.
As an architecture student in a country in which the market to practice it in have grown more and more through the years. Your videos have inspired and helped me to help my self fit in the community. Thank you for being you!
as an aspiring architect, this was the most entertaining, interesting, and fun thing to watch and experience cannot wait until i can achieve this and do this with someone.
woow, these videos really inspire me a lot to continue studying Civil Engineering at UNAM
I feel honored to sit in on two great minds sharing.
This video is brilliant. I am a civil engineer who works in construction, and I have been passionate about architecture since I was a little kid. I am so happy I came across this!
Thank you for this video of your meeting. I agree that having a SE isn’t necessary for the structure to stay up, but adds to the quality of the design and final product for the client. Discussions about the connections and how small or large members should be to obtain the aesthetic you looking for is a great reason for having a structural engineer. I also appreciated hearing about the spectrum of work they see in the industry and the many failure conditions they are called to evaluate and correct.
Architect: The Artists that dreams up ideas.
Engineer: The person who has figure out how make them a reality.
This meme has to die. In reality, both need each other.
Yeah, tell that to Frank Lloyd Wright when the Racine city engineers did not believe that his columns could hold up the Johnson building. Architect and Engineer were synonymous for a long time, it’s only quite recently that specialization lead to two distinct professions.
May i also add ... Jon Utzon the Architect behind the famous Sydney Opera House also worked out and convinced his team of engineers on how the roof of the building will hold up. Architects ain't just simply Artists with idea
@@studionumberfive this doesn't really hold water, you explaining one side of the storey. I'm sure engineers had several reasons, amongst others liability in case of failure etc..
@@lefikarock As a senior civil engineering student with my EIT I think the first comment is best. I would have fun with the stigma against the architects when I was a freshman but now think its idiotic. I always liked the idea of meeting in a room with professionals and brainstorming to work something out. Architects and engineers are both professionals and have careers most people are automatically impressed by. #stopthebashing
I’m so annoyed that I can’t go subscribe to this amazing structural engineer who is doing what I want to do he is my dream job
One of the best explanations on how architects and engineers collaborate!
I my self is structural engineer. Came across this video. it's great that they are sharing their knowledge.
Structural Engineer here. Great video of how this meeting is supposed to look like. All said is completely true. but can't help wondering how it would look like if the building is just a bit more complex...say 4 storeys :) Sorry for the sarcasm, I can only dream of things running this smooth in real life.
My wife (Structural Engineer): "So this two piece bikini is fastened to my body like so and allows more surface area for my skin to get a nice tan. It was also very cost effective. Also the materi-"
Me (Architect): "I'm fine with that, as a look."
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Gotta say, as an outsider looking in, this is a phenomenal video. Excellent camera work and editing, sure, but the content and how smoothly all the details were discussed.... truly exceptional. I was entertained, and I'm not the least bit involved with this kind of work!
Interesting... I'm doing my plate while watching this video, and it's really therapheutic to listen to professionals who understands and respect each others job.
This was so professionally pleasing.
Great video again! This engineer could absolutely be your brother. He has the same tone, mannerisms, phrasing and way of speaking.
This is a great video! The discussion of the structural viewpoint isn’t the most glamorous part of a project but it is one of the most important aspects. I received an AAS degree in Drafting and design in 1984 and went to work for one of the few places hiring at that dry time, a structural and pre-Engineered building company. In 35 years I’ve learned the correct ways to design and implement things and I’ve learned the “not so correct” way to design and implement things. The structural engineer and the architect in this video are absolutely going about this design in the correct way. I wish I could have every iron worker, erector, general contractor and end customer watch this video from the 18 minute point on! Well done!
WOW! I absolutely love this, I'm actually majoring in Architecture at the moment, but from an Engineering school, so along with Design, Landscape, and Environmental analysis, I also study Working Drawings, Structure and Materials, it's closer to a double major in Civil Engineering (Construction) and Architecture, so this was really nice to watch, from both perspectives.
Lovely insight into the collaboration between these two professions. Will ask our comms team if we can try something similar.