My question is while this sounds really good on private land are public land services taking these same measures. In my area I don't really see the dnr doing much of this on public.
A buddy of mine calls his DNR folks and tells them he likes seeing habitat management on the ground and wants to see more of it. It may not change much, but they appreciate the positive encouragement. They get lots of calls urging them NOT to do management.
Just as an example, New York just finished up their pilot round of what they're calling the YFI or Young Forest Initiative that calls for 10% of state forests (Piloted on WMAs) to be designated as Young Forest. This was done in Region 6 (Jefferson, St. Lawrence & Lewis Counties) and from what I've seen it looks great. I live in Arizona now, but when I visited home this past summer and saw the efforts and the habitat, it looked phenomenal compared to when I lived in the region 5 years ago.
Is some states, they are as funding permits. Marcus Hockett from the Randy Newberg Clan did a video with Wade Zarlingo about a project here in AZ about a year ago to improve habitat. It is ongoing as funding becomes available and is written into many game management plans.
Been following Matt and Adam since they started L&L. I love that they teach replicating nature and sciences based principles. Not product driven. Their podcast is a wealth of knowledge. I encourage anybody who is interested in habitat management to look them up
I agree with these guys almost 100% i enjoy doing burns. Now back burning I feel does a better job. With the wind burn I've seen it pass over a lot of under growth. Back burning is a slower method and easy to control with a light crew. Leaf blowers is a must and a atv sprayer, drag mats are useful too if your on a budget. I wish more people would burn their wooded areas and cut the trash out. Those tree laps are aewsome nesting sites and deer bedding. This was probably the most helpful land video that any hunting channel has published. I really enjoyed this!
Love the habitat improvement content! Hope y'all can continue to share this kind of content in between seasons and hopefully show updates of the improvements working to benefit wildlife to encourage more people to join the effort!
I’m not a property owner yet but with turkey numbers declining this will benefit all land owners and I know once I am a land owner I will be deep into this stuff helping out the wildlife!
This video is just what many people need! and we need to do more of this! The only down fall is in states like mine here in NY, fire is illegal. And without fire, its tough to control briars and etc that come on fast and thick after a good canopy opening.. this requires a lot of herbicide use and boots to the ground.. many folks give up at this point and a "used to be" closed canopy turns into a monster briar patch, by year 2 or 3 its too thick for much anything to use it besides rabbits maybe. Just hard to do great work when a state restricts you, while your trying to do everything in your power to help a dwindling turkey population or just produce better habitat for all.. Also.. it should be noted, to never rake or blow away from your fire towards more potential fuels, always rake or blow back into the fire
A lot of good info in a short amount of video. For guys starting out, and have never used a chainsaw, get a pair of good chaps and helmet/ safety glasses. Also don’t cut alone. And when using the herbicide I would keep cuts at the waist and lower, also wearing safety glasses. A lot of the herbicides have a danger warning due to eye damage if chemical gets in eye. Removing several of the possums and raccoon which raid the turkey nests was also great. Excited to see results. Good luck and stay safe.
Aaron you should invest in doing a little predator control on your farm for the coyotes and bobcats much like you done the coons and opossums! A dozen footholds is relatively cheap and a good solid two weeks on the property you could do some real good. I’d don’t know if you have ever trapped before but I’m sure you have many connections or friends that could help you out. It would be huge for your fawns and young hatchlings in the spring and summer. This along with what you’ve already got going on would yield amazing results! I’m excited to see what it looks like later down the road man, great job!
I agree but you can't have a control burn right at the beginning of hens nesting,it needs to be done in the early part of the new turkey season, not 1 mouth before spring turkey season opens.!!
Awesome info really appreciate it it's that'll definitely help out a lot of people along with myself thanks for your time and content Keep it coming brother appreciate you guys
This is an awesome video, we're planning on incorporating some of these tidbits on our property in NY (sans burning). Just in my lifetime I've seen the turkey population drop tremendously. I believe there are many factors at play here like Doc Chamberlain has said but every effort is worthwhile
@@Landandlegacytube Would be nice to figure out a cheap way to get it to the SW! They sell it here in all the big stores. Chipped and pellets for smoking.
Got a lot out of this video. Would love to see more stuff like this showing management strategies for native species which benefit wildlife, our landscapes need it.
Hey guys great content keep up the good work love all your videos question did any of you turkey hunt in Maine in 2021 herd you talk about it but haven't seen a video yet just wondering , good luck this year . Take care guys and thanks for the videos
Appreciate the habitat conversation as quality habitats are always key to good game populations. We hunters are all conservationists and at some point we ALL have to give back as much or more as we take out. We must each ask ourselves how many gobblers do I need to harvest in one year? How many bucks? We are kidding ourselves if we try to justify our excesses by saying I pay taxes, I buy licenses and stamps, I contribute to conservation organizations, and I play by the rules therefore I've earned the right to shoot as many legal birds and bucks as I want! If I see a THP hunting crew anywhere on public land, I am moving on. Because you have proven yourselves to get while the getting is good and shoot as many gobblers or bucks off a single property as quickly as you can only to move on to the next property or state and repeat. And the trickle down effect of ever more filmers and state jumpers is all contributing to excessive take take take of finite and precious public natural resources. Wild game are public, even if on private land. Game Wardens are so named because all wild game are considered "wards" of the state. We owe it to ourselves and the game we love to ask: how much is excessive harvest contributing to lower turkey populations? I realize it is complicated and harvest is just one of many factors. But how many gobblers and bucks does one hunter need to harvest in one year? How many should an ethical hunter/conservationist harvest in one year? I respect Greg and Mindy, they seem to do things right.
Luck will have it iv seen the turkey explode in numbers in Kanawha County west Virginia over last 7 years just about every place u walk in the woods ur on 2 -3 different birds in summer months nothing to see 25 - 40 birds in the fields hens Jakes makes the biggest part of them
What if those trees you cut were roost trees? And now you "opened the canopy to promote growth..." of what will most likely be invasive species of autumn olive, honeysuckle and multi flora rose.
Doesn’t look like they’re short on roost trees. As for invasive plants, they’re not in there with equipment tearing up the soil, so it shouldn’t be as much of a problem. Even so, burning and spot treatment with herbicide will help control invasives.
Where I live in Louisiana the only place you can find a Hickory is at an old house place. None in the woods, especially where control burning takes place.
It shocks me that some Areas in the US are having issues with Turkey Populations. I live in Idaho and they are seen as huge pests here they are over populated and have been pushing out the ring necked pheasant, Quail, and Grouse out of whole area’s. Everyday whilst out at work i see flocks of turkey’s around 30-50 strong.
Honestly, the management they are doing in the forest is creating something closer to “old growth forest” than what they had. Old growth forests have a balanced mix of age classes of trees, not just a bunch of big trees that are the same age. Forests of all age classes are important.
We appreciate you commenting but do encourage you to listen to more of our content, especially our podcast. You will learn way more about us there, this is one farm and a snippet of the two days we spent onsite. You will find when you dive deeper into that a balanced ecosystem is exacting what we are managing for and promoting.
By making the land more attractive to species like turkey and deer, it will greatly benefit other wildlife. It's a win win scenario. More plant and insect diversity, more quail habitat, more migratory birds, etc. Nothing selfish about this.
My question is while this sounds really good on private land are public land services taking these same measures. In my area I don't really see the dnr doing much of this on public.
Yes many public lands do habitat work. NWTF just helped the US Forest Service fund an aerial burning program on their public lands in Missouri.
A buddy of mine calls his DNR folks and tells them he likes seeing habitat management on the ground and wants to see more of it. It may not change much, but they appreciate the positive encouragement. They get lots of calls urging them NOT to do management.
Just as an example, New York just finished up their pilot round of what they're calling the YFI or Young Forest Initiative that calls for 10% of state forests (Piloted on WMAs) to be designated as Young Forest. This was done in Region 6 (Jefferson, St. Lawrence & Lewis Counties) and from what I've seen it looks great. I live in Arizona now, but when I visited home this past summer and saw the efforts and the habitat, it looked phenomenal compared to when I lived in the region 5 years ago.
Is some states, they are as funding permits. Marcus Hockett from the Randy Newberg Clan did a video with Wade Zarlingo about a project here in AZ about a year ago to improve habitat. It is ongoing as funding becomes available and is written into many game management plans.
@@KyleAldinger on one of my local wma they planted a decent food plot for deer once but I haven't seen anything done since
Been following Matt and Adam since they started L&L. I love that they teach replicating nature and sciences based principles. Not product driven. Their podcast is a wealth of knowledge. I encourage anybody who is interested in habitat management to look them up
Very informative. From a forest biologist, this is 100% accurate. Great scientific popularization. Good job guys!
I agree with these guys almost 100% i enjoy doing burns. Now back burning I feel does a better job. With the wind burn I've seen it pass over a lot of under growth. Back burning is a slower method and easy to control with a light crew. Leaf blowers is a must and a atv sprayer, drag mats are useful too if your on a budget. I wish more people would burn their wooded areas and cut the trash out. Those tree laps are aewsome nesting sites and deer bedding. This was probably the most helpful land video that any hunting channel has published. I really enjoyed this!
Glad to see THP hook up with these guys. Used to watch them being mentored by Grant Woods. They know what they are doing.
I liked watching Adam on growing deer glad to see he is still doing what he loves
Bird nerds, are the best kinda people.
Please continue with this type content, either follow ups or game camera validation, etc. Thanks for putting this type of video together.
Love the habitat improvement content! Hope y'all can continue to share this kind of content in between seasons and hopefully show updates of the improvements working to benefit wildlife to encourage more people to join the effort!
I can't like this video enough! So so helpful! Answered so many questions for this Missouri boy. Keep it up!
I’m not a property owner yet but with turkey numbers declining this will benefit all land owners and I know once I am a land owner I will be deep into this stuff helping out the wildlife!
Awesome to see Matt and Adam moved forward from their growing deer tv with grant woods days. Awesome content.
Great and informative video. Lots of information that will help both deer and turkeys, just gotta love that. Thanks for presenting this for us.
I love the hunting videos, but these instructional/informational videos are really fascinating.
Good content THP, this is a critical part of hunting. A better understanding of this makes us ALL better hunters in the end.
Great content guys thanks for showing us how easy it is to maintain are properties for better Turkey land.
Land and Legacy some of the best content out there!
What pesticides are being sprayed on the fields? Is it a NEONICOTENOID ? That may be the reason the birds are declining nationally.
Makes me think what I can do for my land.
Awesome video!! I bet y’all will get tons of likes and views on this series!!! Hope every spring to follow along with your habitat work!
Great info. Now I just need a farm and a full size truck bed full of cash
We are maintaining a good habitat and see more and more
Great content, thanks for getting the word out on how easy it is to better manage your hunting properties.
This video is just what many people need! and we need to do more of this! The only down fall is in states like mine here in NY, fire is illegal. And without fire, its tough to control briars and etc that come on fast and thick after a good canopy opening.. this requires a lot of herbicide use and boots to the ground.. many folks give up at this point and a "used to be" closed canopy turns into a monster briar patch, by year 2 or 3 its too thick for much anything to use it besides rabbits maybe. Just hard to do great work when a state restricts you, while your trying to do everything in your power to help a dwindling turkey population or just produce better habitat for all..
Also.. it should be noted, to never rake or blow away from your fire towards more potential fuels, always rake or blow back into the fire
What an awesome video. I wish they did this on our public land . This would be a huge benefit
A lot of good info in a short amount of video. For guys starting out, and have never used a chainsaw, get a pair of good chaps and helmet/ safety glasses. Also don’t cut alone. And when using the herbicide I would keep cuts at the waist and lower, also wearing safety glasses. A lot of the herbicides have a danger warning due to eye damage if chemical gets in eye. Removing several of the possums and raccoon which raid the turkey nests was also great. Excited to see results. Good luck and stay safe.
Get these 2 on public land challenge. Been following them especially adam since his growing deer days.
Makes you think how great land could be! Thanks for the ideas 💡
I love the habitat videos! I’ll definitely check out their podcast
These types of videos are amazing I love to learn about how to manage the land it’s quite amazing
Aaron you should invest in doing a little predator control on your farm for the coyotes and bobcats much like you done the coons and opossums! A dozen footholds is relatively cheap and a good solid two weeks on the property you could do some real good. I’d don’t know if you have ever trapped before but I’m sure you have many connections or friends that could help you out. It would be huge for your fawns and young hatchlings in the spring and summer. This along with what you’ve already got going on would yield amazing results! I’m excited to see what it looks like later down the road man, great job!
Been watching matt and the og adam for years
I agree but you can't have a control burn right at the beginning of hens nesting,it needs to be done in the early part of the new turkey season, not 1 mouth before spring turkey season opens.!!
Hopefully, the progress reaps benefits galore
Enjoying the nice variety of videos,well done
Awesome info really appreciate it it's that'll definitely help out a lot of people along with myself thanks for your time and content Keep it coming brother appreciate you guys
Loved this video, keep doing ones like this too this spring!
Can’t wait for this spring keep up the good work yall
This is an awesome video, we're planning on incorporating some of these tidbits on our property in NY (sans burning). Just in my lifetime I've seen the turkey population drop tremendously. I believe there are many factors at play here like Doc Chamberlain has said but every effort is worthwhile
I’ve wondered what happened to Matt and Adam from growing deer. Glad to see he’s doing well having started his own thing.
I can't even enjoy a walk in a park anymore because of this channel, I'm always looking for hazard trees. Haha.
That hickory is worth money! One of the most used BBQ woods in the West. And firewood! Wow!!!
Come on out and bring the market with you! Lol
@@Landandlegacytube Would be nice to figure out a cheap way to get it to the SW! They sell it here in all the big stores. Chipped and pellets for smoking.
@@JimWooddell would love it but around here hickory is so abundant can’t hardly give it away
@@Landandlegacytube That is like mesquite out here in AZ. It is all over the place.
Really great info, thanks guys.
Got a lot out of this video. Would love to see more stuff like this showing management strategies for native species which benefit wildlife, our landscapes need it.
I love this content. Keep it coming.
Thanks to that was great! Learned a lot!
This was very helpful! Thanks
Great info, keep it coming.
Can I spray and mow and that would be close to burning?
This was super interesting!
Great video, Aaron
Hey guys great content keep up the good work love all your videos question did any of you turkey hunt in Maine in 2021 herd you talk about it but haven't seen a video yet just wondering , good luck this year . Take care guys and thanks for the videos
Them little spike antlers would make some good knife 🔪 handles 👍
Appreciate the habitat conversation as quality habitats are always key to good game populations. We hunters are all conservationists and at some point we ALL have to give back as much or more as we take out. We must each ask ourselves how many gobblers do I need to harvest in one year? How many bucks? We are kidding ourselves if we try to justify our excesses by saying I pay taxes, I buy licenses and stamps, I contribute to conservation organizations, and I play by the rules therefore I've earned the right to shoot as many legal birds and bucks as I want!
If I see a THP hunting crew anywhere on public land, I am moving on. Because you have proven yourselves to get while the getting is good and shoot as many gobblers or bucks off a single property as quickly as you can only to move on to the next property or state and repeat. And the trickle down effect of ever more filmers and state jumpers is all contributing to excessive take take take of finite and precious public natural resources.
Wild game are public, even if on private land. Game Wardens are so named because all wild game are considered "wards" of the state. We owe it to ourselves and the game we love to ask: how much is excessive harvest contributing to lower turkey populations? I realize it is complicated and harvest is just one of many factors. But how many gobblers and bucks does one hunter need to harvest in one year? How many should an ethical hunter/conservationist harvest in one year?
I respect Greg and Mindy, they seem to do things right.
Thank you!
I also believe lowering population of nest invaders such as opossums and raccoons, would also be very beneficial to Missouri’s wild Turkey population.
Luck will have it iv seen the turkey explode in numbers in Kanawha County west Virginia over last 7 years just about every place u walk in the woods ur on 2 -3 different birds in summer months nothing to see 25 - 40 birds in the fields hens Jakes makes the biggest part of them
🦃 cool content. Me likey 👍
My property is in Northwest Wisconsin. No way we can do prescribed burns. Would start a very big forest fire.
Alabama 11 point!
Does anybody know if these guys answer questions anywhere? Do they still do the podcast?
Yes
You should also have a shoot on site policy for egg eating predators e.g. coons, possum
Hey! Adam used to be on growing deer tv what happened
Hi guys love the vids
Paris MO = longbirds, big bucks, ducks, crappie, morrel mushrooms.....
There is only 7 wild turkeys left in the entire state of Arkansas.
What if those trees you cut were roost trees?
And now you "opened the canopy to promote growth..." of what will most likely be invasive species of autumn olive, honeysuckle and multi flora rose.
Doesn’t look like they’re short on roost trees.
As for invasive plants, they’re not in there with equipment tearing up the soil, so it shouldn’t be as much of a problem. Even so, burning and spot treatment with herbicide will help control invasives.
Exactly
Pull some out for fire wood on those hickory's. Sell some and enjoy some.
Where I live in Louisiana the only place you can find a Hickory is at an old house place. None in the woods, especially where control burning takes place.
@cperkins405, that’s interesting because hickory is a fire-adapted species. Maybe the are just naturally doesn’t support much hickory.
where I am from a tree less than 10 years old does not produce any fruit
It shocks me that some Areas in the US are having issues with Turkey Populations. I live in Idaho and they are seen as huge pests here they are over populated and have been pushing out the ring necked pheasant, Quail, and Grouse out of whole area’s. Everyday whilst out at work i see flocks of turkey’s around 30-50 strong.
Predators equals less turkey 🦃
Watch whitetail habitat solution he gives the best habitat advice
Let go
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These guys know about how to maximize food and cover for deer/turkey. But, not much about a balanced ecosystem. Old growth forest are key
Honestly, the management they are doing in the forest is creating something closer to “old growth forest” than what they had. Old growth forests have a balanced mix of age classes of trees, not just a bunch of big trees that are the same age. Forests of all age classes are important.
We appreciate you commenting but do encourage you to listen to more of our content, especially our podcast. You will learn way more about us there, this is one farm and a snippet of the two days we spent onsite. You will find when you dive deeper into that a balanced ecosystem is exacting what we are managing for and promoting.
Managing a property to make it conducive to a high population of only the animals you hunt is selfish
By making the land more attractive to species like turkey and deer, it will greatly benefit other wildlife. It's a win win scenario. More plant and insect diversity, more quail habitat, more migratory birds, etc. Nothing selfish about this.
Improving habitat usually benefits most species. Every habitat management practice benefits a few species most though. Gotta choose one to target.