Jack Roush "Sudden Death" Mafia Street Race Mustang II | '69 Gapp & Roush Mustang | Interview PT 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2021
- In this last part of our visit to Jack Roush's shop (at least from this trip) Jack talks about his 1969 Super Stock Mustang and the Sudden Death Mustang II street racer that he built for the Detroit Mafia. I apologize for the poor audio, as this was an impromptu interview that we captured.
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Sudden Death really changed everything. It shook the street guys to their core. Pro Street became a thing back then.
You need to put a mic on Jack had a very difficult time hearing him. I really enjoy his stories!
Good God potato mic,, It's 2021 bro.
Quite true ❗️
Hit close captioning on top (cc) you'll see the dialog
Man, I love that Sudden Death car. They actually brought it to a car show here where I work a couple years ago. Its an amazing piece in person.
I remember when "sudden death' was built and in the magazines! No internet then....
Love these videos, thank Jack for sharing with us. Ford Forever!
Thank you.
This motivates me to finish building my 428CJ for my 68.5 Cougar!
My first car was a 68 Mercury Cougar XR7 and home on leave in the service looked and test drove a 67 GT-E with a 427 manual, I had a couple more years and didn't know where I would have stored it, I was in the Navy, so I passed on it, I have regretted that decision. A buddy of mine got a 428cj driveline out of a wrecked 69 cougar eliminator. Good luck with your build.
@@kennethchapman9564 not to late!
Always told Mustang II haters, if you ever experienced one like this you wouldn't hate it.
In the early 70s I helped wrench on a 69 CJ convertible. The convertible was allowed a full roll cage (allowed because of the conv. top, for safety) which was fudged into a back half car. That car was a very rare factory 4 speed car and had a national record first in stock (without the full cage) as a stick car. It was modified into super stock with the cage and an automatic. It sat for a long time afterwards. It was eventually returned to original, stock configuration, and sold for well over $100K at auction. No idea where it is today.
I wish I could meet you two and go for a quick tour of the place for my bucket list. God bless you all and the work that you all do. Thanks for letting us see it and have a great day.
Thanks for the memories! I remember reading about Sudden Death! You keep bringing us the coolest people and cars in the Ford fleet!
Wow, I had that edition of Hot Rod back in the day, I couldn't believe how a 460 got stuffed into a Mustang II.
I wonder weight? Fox Body 3,000 pounds,a Mustang II had galvanized hood and other heavy parts..I love that,had same color..
Mustang II must have been much heavier than a Foxxy...I had both styles in same color and neither rusted..Must be something with it..
I got model too
So cool to see that silver Mustang II. Best coverage of that car, ever. Super helpful. Because I have wanted to do a model of that car for years. Boy, will this video be my main reference material, now.
This has been a great series on Jack Roush's collection. Great job.
I still have the old car magazine with Sudden Death in it. Whatta dream car.
Subscribed!
@@revanevan Thank you!
Jack Roush is the man!
My favorite Mustang body style the Silver Mustang II fastback. Never could understand why almost no one likes them.
My first car was a Mustang II, so was my second. Number two got it's heavy stock bumpers removed and fiberglass units installed, just like the ones on that silver Mustang II. Saved over 100lbs. per bumper. It was a big enough of a difference to feel. Neat collection.
I got my Mustang II in 1988, and I still have it, it's just a bit faster now, videos on my channel.
I had twin to that in blue, i drove that car in 89. It was insane for the day. Jacks cars are incredible. The fact he bought alot of them new is wonderful.
Thank you for this!!! I love drag racing history!!! Hopefully you can get Mr roush to show more and talk more that was such a treat!!!!
You're welcome.
It would have been nice to hear what he said
yeah, he’s a “low talker” as the Seinfeld episode related.
What
The Sudden Death car was huge influence on me even as a pre teen.
My thought was that it was on the street naturally aspirated and that the turbos were added by a different owner. But now I hear that Jack set the turbos up... So it was always a turbo car ? I'd love some more information.
The very first built street machine I got a ride in was a Mustang II king Cobra, it had several different combinations of high winding, tunnel rammed 289s and 302s, caged with twin nitrous bottles and running big slicks on the street. Getting to help with and riding in that car was a mind blower for me in the early 80s. I'll always have a soft spot for the Mustang II.
I have the issue of Hot Rod mag with the Sudden Death feature, written by Gray Baskerville. Car was not turbocharged when Gray shot it for the magazine. Just a big single 4bbl on a single plane.
@@vr6swp that's how I remember it also..
People don't usually like these cars and I can understand why. But you definitely can have fun with them without spending a lot of money. Nice and light and a cheap 400hp small block and your going to go pretty fast
Had a 75 Mustang 2 myself that originally had the four banger and put in a complete V8 driveline, posi rear, manual gearbox and mildly built 289 with torquer intake and hooker headers
The car started out with a naturally aspirated 460 (with 429SCJ mods) opened up to 505" and stayed that way until Steve Lisk built his back-halved, Lenco trans Hemi Challenger - which was a bit quicker than the the Mustang.
Next was the twin turbo big block in the Mustang but I don't know much from that point on.
Joe was a neighbor, but I moved away about the time the twin turbo setup came along and lost touch with what went on from there.
I remember the Mustang II from the magazine back in the day!
The fuselage from Jack's first plane crash hanging on the wall.
Was trying to figure out what “car” part that was❗️🆗
9.50 on 1/4 mile for that time was really great achivement.
Nice love hearing the stories. Thanks 😊🙏
I remember seeing the Mustang II at the “Top End ‘Club’” meetings at Clock restaurant at 12 mile and Orchard Lake off I-696 when the freeway first opened. I think they were Thursday nights. I still have the vision burned in my brain looking under the back of the car. 2/3 of the view was tire all tucked under that car!!! Well that’s how I remember it. My friend with his Comet GT and me in my Cougar Eliminator.
a fellow on my fb page restored that car. did a good job.. he would post it as he went along.. great car..
❤😂😢😮😅😊 and Jack Roush is a smart man. He knows his cars and I’m glad he specializes in Ford cars and parts. He’s awesome Reverend Revan I hear that engine keep on revving.
Dude your title gave me a heart attack! I forgot about the sudden death car.
was almost going to buy a silver MUSTANG 2 wish i would have i remember JOE AND THIS MUSTANG AND ITS TIMES AND THOUGHT WOW
Very cool, really enjoyed!!! 👍👍👍
Thanks
Beyond belief !!!
These videos are wonderful, thank you! More JR late model pony cars please. Awesome chanel!
Thanks Glenn! We appreciate the comment.
I remember reading about Sudden Death, that was one bad machine.
Awesome
The "Sudden Death" Mustang and the "Silver Bullet" Plymouth GTX were the 2 quickest cars that ruled the Detroit streets back in the early - mid 70's.
Absolutely Feckin Awesome
i saw the sudden death car at the NPD Silver Springs show back in the mid teens. iirc a guy in Homosassa Fl had it at the time
Audio on Jack was NFG!
We did the best we could during this quick visit. Thanks for watching.
If I could wish for any car on 🌎, it would probably be that Mustang II. Until I needed new spark plugs.
No mention of the guy that did the restoration of Sudden Death. Tom Tate deserves a ton of credit for that.
ALL of the credit
@@gapporama You are correct! The level of fit and finish is incredible
❤😂😢😮😅😊😊 Evan that is a nice shop for Jack Rauch. I’m gonna go up there one of these years maybe next year and see the raider game and go through the museum and see all the nice awesome Fords that he did.
I remember the Mustang II from 70's magazines, and that convertible Mustang has a killer stance
Somewhere in my stacks of magazines I have the Sudden Death article.
I noticed a white early Fox bidy in the next room in the background. Any story to tell on that car?
X2 That can't be the original color! It looks to be a 1982 Mustang GT.
Priceless listening to Jack and his stories. I agree with the others , the audio on Jack could use improvement. 👍
I know you don't have a problem being loud, Evan. All those nights on Gulf Avenue that we had loud screaming matches. LOL. You Jersey kids with your 5.0 mustangs thinkin' ya own da place....LOL... The sound quality of this is pretty bad. I would love to watch this on my lunch hour but I can barely hear what Jack is saying. I remember when that Mustang 2 was in Hot Rod or Car Craft or something. Looking forward to watching this when I get home. Love what you're doing and would love to see you hook up with dragboss garage.
Does he have the Tijuana Taxi still?
I love that silver mustang ll.. my top ford dream cars #1 ford gt 40 #2 ford thunderbolt #3 75 mustang ll #4 70 mustang #5 88 Thunderbird turbo coupe
I think I saw the Mustang II in a magazine article about Jack back in the early 80's
So coo!
What size wheels and how many inches did u lift it ? How did u lift it?
Is that 1975 Mustang ii for sale?
I remember the "Sudden Death" mustang in Hot Rod magazine guy who had it built lived in Detroit if I am remembering it correctly.
Joe lived in Lathrup Village, near 12Mile Rd. and Evergreen, a suburb of Detroit.
I was in my teens at the time and lived not far from him.
Listening to Jack speak, this is not the same Jack who was winning consistently in NASCAR back in the '90s. Hopefully, Keselosky can help Roush to get back to the days of winning.
Can anyone tell me anything about the Thunderbird at 8:12 ?
Pretty cool never knew sudden death was a twin turbo car.
Can you find brown maverick dragger there for me
That Mustang II is definitely a sleeper car.
The fox behind Mr. Roush around the 5min mark... Is that a Mustang or Capri?
Pretty sure it's a 1982 Mustang GT.
I can't hear jack
guys, cool stuff, but please look into a Rode WIGOII (or similar) setup.
Hey Ed, we have a Rode, but this was literally Jack walking around the shop chatting with us, not a planned interview so I took what I could get.
REVan Evan, you know everybody, Brian Wolfe, Jack Roush and on and on. You oughta be in missing persons. Lol!!😂🤣
Can't hear what Jack is saying!
How did he get the 460 to fit in there?My 1978 Mustang 2 it was a pain in the ass just to put the 302 in it
I think back then it was fire saws and big hammers made room.🔥
Firewall was moved back.
Quite a few things were moved around to get the big block in the car.
As Evan said, the firewall was moved back, also the crossmember was modified for pan clearance - the big blocks were front sump pans also - and the unitized frame area was messaged for header clearance.
Joe (the cars owner back then) was a neighbor while in my teens and let me look the car over from end to end.
R.I.P. Joe
A nice 351W/427 would be right at home without all the fabrication that went into this particular awesome beast. Naturally aspirated they’ve been known to make a little over 600 horsepower and 589 foot pounds of torque, in a small block package
@@Motor-City-Mike Don't forget that the shock towers were completely removed, I believe it was converted to a coil over front suspension.
did you see the 68 cougar 427 GTE ?
Yes, awesome car.
Did Ford make any white 1982 Mustang GTs?
And so many folks give the 2 grief...😏
I am a huge fan of Pintos and Mustang IIs. Currently racing a 1972 Pinto woodgrain wagon. Looks almost completely stock. New stock Coppertone paint and woodgrain. Very few decals. Well built 351C single four barrel and a C6 with manual valve bodies. Seriously reinforced chassis, custom built Moser rear end, 5 lug 4 wheel disc conversion. Because it is too old for emissions inspections, it is plated street legal. I would love to get my hands on a Mustang II hatchback, but they just don't exist anymore. They are infinitely better looking than the hideous Foxbody. I can't believe Ford ever built the Foxbody to begin with, then kept it around for so long. Definitely a dark period in Mustang history.
lpve the II
Glad he’s a Ford man. He saved the 03,04 Cobra program.
I’m thinking about building a car like this for a daily and show these modern muscle cars what’s up
Please give the person being interviewed the microphone. Can't hear a thing he's saying. Keep in mind that we don't care what you say, it's the subject we want to hear.
👍💣💥
Good stuff, eh Dean !!
@@arkhsm all the Sudden Life to you in the world A-man. I gotta just love Jack R and Mr Gapps work. Joe R was quite the character! A Gateway _ _ug. (Th, not Dr)
Two thumbs down, like really?
even today some mopar/chevy guys STILL CRY! about the Sudden Death MII on forums
Mopar could beat sudden death with the hemi,lenco, and rear tubs but general motors best chance without blowers and nitrous would be a monza or nova fitted with n50's and the buick 455 stage 2 set back in the firewall with switch pitch convertor 4.11rear and a huge pair behind the wheel.
@@patriley5333 FACT! Lisks 3650Lib hemi Challenger was documented as a high 9.70's car on track WITH USING NITROUS! ... FACT!... the only way Lisks challenger could beat the SD MII is when it's leaky lenco was constantly pumping it's oil all over the road.
@@393boss Hey i bet the mii was more streetable and with high octane available, just the right amount of distributor advance before they lined up, and perfect burnout made for a great race. Wish more guys who were there would talk about motown muscle.
Wouldn't it be cool to see that car and some small tire events you say s**** and giggles but I bet with some tuning and some rigging I bet you the car could really put it down yes I do realize technology and these guys play for keeps but you're telling me that car ain't better than 400 horsepower just awesome piece of History .
Damn I love ii's. Too bad most of them rotted out.
Beautiful mustang 2.
Got you on surround sound Mr roush.....can't hear you
Jack said twin turbo 520!
❤😂😢😮😅😊 Evan I even have Jack Rouse stickers on my car with a jack Ruch air cleaner
Put the women, kids and Shevrolayz in a safe place
Awesome mustang....iconic....
Piss poor representation of it tho...
The details and recognition on Sudden Death were very lacking . The old Hot Rod mag story was a lot better .
This wasn't a planned deal, we just showed up to see the car and Jack happened to be there and gave me a few minutes of his time. I still hope you enjoyed a look at the car. Check out some of our other videos, we normally go into much greater detail.
@@revanevan
With Joe gone and most of the "Top-Enders" gone and/or moved on accurate history on Sudden Death is getting more rare all the time, and much of what's out there now is pretty inaccurate.
Jack is even 'Hazy' on some of the details - initially the Big Block was 505" and naturally aspirated, the twin turbo 520+ didn't come along until Lisk's back-halved, Lenco trans Hemi Challenger showed up to "dethrone" Sudden Death as the king of the street.
Something that came along just about the time I lost touch with Joe is that the twin turbo was built using an aluminum 600" Can Am series race block - but I never did see it in person so I can't verify it.
For everything that Jack has seen and done it's easy to overlook anything that he says that isn't dead on after all these years, the man has done more with one life than most ten people put together.
There's still a few of us left that were there at the time and remember the details only because to us these cars were like being around NASA's spacecrafts.
I lived near Joe, and he was very patient - and quite friendly - about letting this then teenaged speed junky look over and talk with him about the car.
Good times...
Anybody know the whereabouts of Steve Lisk’s Challenger? (Built with the assistance of Mike Fons. Back halved, Lenco, tunnel ram hemi) aka the car that bested Sudden Death. Truly incredible build…
Love to watch this but this audio sucks buy a new mike
Bad Audio
Cat in hat wow I can listen for hours to him I grew up in race family my older brothers had fast car s in 60s 70s and I am 10 years old the race s we nice I get the cars cood off whit spraying the radiators off free cans pop Nan got time slips for many fast cars Gump was not to Gump when I wanted to look at fast car told him got good spot on right lane the Gove was better. I was and now bit. Of talker
Terrible audio….just saying.
Horrid audio.
You would never know the racing history of Jack watching the General Motors run NASCAR. And bye the way, trying to talk to Chevy guy is like trying to have a conversation with a liberal. You can’t because they believe all the crap they see on tv.
Furd always cheatin. The "Canadian" heads were in FACT illegal and not NHRA approved back then. Years later Dove began casting new versions and got the NHRA's approval. NHRA always looking out for Furd. ;)
That's why they kept adding weight to Cleveland fords in Pro Stock. Grumpy and Sox would whine, Uncle Wally would coddle them.
@P1 So you're saying that when The Border Bandits came down from Canada in their fastback & squareback Mustangs, racing in NHRA, their 428 CJ's were illegal?
Hem back now
I guess NHR chevorlet is paying FORD back now
@@r.d.riddle2068 "They put 300 lbs on me"...my azz.
Terrible recording and missed opportunity with the great Jack Roush. Shame, shame....