I love this scene Green Arrow: Batman said I was supposed to keep you guys honest. Superman: Do I look like Batman to you? Flash: Actually you kinda do.
It was a good indicator of two things: Batman's confidence in Green Arrow keeping the League's head straight, and Flash being true to his role as the Heart of the League.
God they really made every character a main character. With their own perspectives and opinions. There is not a bad character in that massive team and that is still impressive.
Green arrow is a billionaire who can’t do half the things Batman can. Would be better if he put time and money into his city instead of upgrading his bow and arrows
@@PoutingScout That is why having Bruce parents donated to the city is important. It shows that giving money does not solve the problem. Bruce as Batman problely improved more lives than all the money he gave away. It been shown giving more money can make problems worse.
I think this was a lot of people's introduction to Green Arrow and imo one of the best adaptions of the character. Went from not being a team player like Batman, to becoming one of the most humble and beating heart of the league. I have watched the Arrowverse version of Ollie since 2014 and even though I liked that version, this version for me is one of the one . He doesn't act like Batman and doesn't need to, he is charming and funny as hell. I hope we get more versions like this one
"Do I look like Batman to you?" "Actually, you kind of do." This is fucking hilarious, why isn't anyone talking about how brilliant this exchange is? it almost breaks the fourth wall lmao
With NO respect to Stephen Amell, THIS is the best version of Green Arrow. His belief in people, his strong principles, the fact that he rides into battle while singing his own theme song, it all makes for a little man who’s earned his place among gods. Also, dang he and Black Canary are great together.
the Arrow character was clearly not conceived to be Green Arrow, it was conceived to be Batman with Green Arrow origin and abilities, it was more of a Bruce Wayne, it lacks the political opinion, the anti far right. Even the actor doesn't understand that unions are actually something good.
Oliver Queen and Wally West are the main two characters that keep the team together. I miss Wally West and wish the actor who voiced him and played Lex in Smallville got a chance to play him in live action.
Green arrow is the most hated character in my eyes. He so damn corny and cheesy. A lucky lefty who always blurting out his liberalism. Fortunately he fit and helps balance things out.
That "I'm an old lefty" speech from Green Arrow informs my understanding of what left-wing and right-wing are to this day. If the left wing says "The government must do for the people what the people cannot do for themselves," then the right wing says "The government must not do for the people what the people can do for themselves." A bit oversimplified, but it shakes out.
@@GDKF0238 I see the _parties-_ that is, the Democrats and Republicans- as both left-wing. Both liberally utilize government to impose, on paper, the will of the people upon the people. The only difference is what exactly that imposition is. The closest thing to a right wing the US government has is the Libertarian party, which is anemic and impotent. Its mission statement, however, indicates the intent of minimizing the influence of government on the people. I would call that right-wing.
@@SaltpeterTaffyyou are fucking crazy lol. We have two right wing countries in this country, and every country in the world thinks this. You do not understand what makes someone right or left wing. It’s a government, it’s always going to act like a government. The left and right are not necessarily what you think they are if you’re just thinking it’s about who uses the government. It’s all about how it’s used. What it’s limits are. But if you have a government then it’s gotta impose some kind of will on the people otherwise you don’t have a government. Like by your own definition Fascism wouldn’t be right wing, despite it being well known as the furthest extreme of it, like Communism is about the furthest left you can get.
@@SaltpeterTaffy It's an interesting view. I never thought I would see someone describe Republicans as left-wing, let alone americans (I'm not American btw). Always good to see a new perspective.
Thank you for planning a separate video on the relationship between Green Arrow and Black Canary. Like his blonde hair, goatee, and charming grin, this ship shows off another magical chemistry missing from the CW Arrow. I know I'm not the only one looking forward to it. ❤
I watched multiple seasons of Arrow, hoping to one day see the character I loved. I eventually gave up after the third Huntress episode, when they finally finished assassinating her character.
Just a small little detail i love about the cadmis arc, an arc about superheros facing off against the politics of the modern world, the two non-original 7 members that played the biggest role in it were green arrow & the question, one hero who actively calls himself "an old leftie" and the other hero who is fairly conservative/created by a conservative writer (A is A).
It all started with Kevin Conroy and his Batman and JLU and Batman Beyond was the epitome of DC is and what it could be beyond the original Crisis storyline. Green Arrow was a great addition to it
Ollie was my favorite character beyond the main cast, because he sticks with his discomfort with the League and moves past it (like a good lefty); Question, Supergirl, and Shining Knight are my close 2nd faves for obvious reasons.
Speaking of the Question, I feel it could be argued that him and green arrow are the two non original 7 members that played the biggest roles during the Cadmus arc, an arc about superheroes having to face off against modern day political systems/government. This is thematically brilliant because like you said Oliver is an old lefty and the question can be seen as a conservative hero (his original creator was openly so & in show question references one of his earlier characters Mr. A
Let's not also forget that chemistry ( and the innuendos) between Ollie and Dinah. 😏 Edit after catching the last blurb: Of _course_ you're gonna make it into another video. I'll wait with baited breath.
What makes Ollie work so well is that he's in just as much a morally perilous position in the show as anyone else; early on, there's a joking conversation shared by him and Black Canary about how Ollie just sold his company for a hefty payday. Ollie is almost as rich as Bruce or Lex, and that could easily keep him out of touch with the people he saves on a daily basis, but he's steadfast in keeping himself grounded and focused on what's right. He's seen both sides, the apathy and the corruption of power or status, and he keeps his head on straight through it. That's why Bruce was so insistent: if Ollie is just like Bruce in the beginning, he's also the more gentle and empathetic touch that Bruce couldn't provide alone.
yeah comic wise, movie wise and cartoon wise aswell dc was at their peak the only reason DC and Marvel is debatable atm is because the DCEU movies never got a director that understood the characters or generally respected them, which is something the MCU had and spider-man (we cant forget about him)
Always pull at least one tear, my guy. Ollie is Such a Great character in the DCAU. Gods... I miss the JLU shows. I'm lucky I got to binge them about 7-8yrs ago on Netflix.
This and the Green Arrow DC Showcase were the absolute best adaptations of the character to date. Since James Gunn has said he’s a massive GA fan, hopefully he’ll get his due in the upcoming DCU sometime soon.
This show addressed so much that went over kids’ (and adults’ heads), but I love that it never talked down to the audience. There was racism, there was sexism, there was politics, murder, love, laughter, and oftentimes more than one right answer. It’s just impossible for me to see this show as anything less than a masterpiece
You know how there's a lot of cartoons that are written with a kid audience in mind first but also with enough depth and nuance that they also attract a sizable adult audience? Well I firmly believe that it's reversed when it comes to the DCAU. These shows were written for grown up fans of DC first but also put enough restrictions on writing that kids can also watch them and follow along without anything objectionable or confusing. Maybe a few lines that would go over a kids head nothing that would confuse them enough that they couldn't follow the plot.
This show is why Green Arrow and Question are my favorite heroes (besides Superman). It has a way of making every hero shine with great lines, “As I suspected, 32 flavors.” and character moments.
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 To some degree yes. Rorschach and the conspiracies he believes are often populist right wing narratives on the failure of modern society while Question’s conspiracies tend to be “What’s really going beneath surface” ones. But yeah Rorschach was modeled on him and it’s clear that influence has gone the other way since the publication of Watchmen in the 80’s to some degree. They both believe that the failure of individuals to act is unforgiven as we see when Question attempts to kill Luthor and when Rorschach confronts Manhattan despite the consequences of both.
7:44 editing b2b scenes where Ollie is talking to Superman and then to Brainiac 5 is INSANE “That’s a job for Superman. Admit it genius, you’re in love with her” made me do SUCH a DOUBLE TAKE
JLU really reinvigorated the Green Arrow brand (for better or worse). There's no way the Arrow series would have existed without JLU, or him being such a major player in the Injustice games. Plus, Ollie looks fantastic in just a towel! :]
I appreciate how much perspectives, even political ones, were explored with maturity in JL/JLU. People had respect for each other despite different views, bc everyone was just trying to do the right thing.
James Gunn's current version of Green Arrow goes to Brony conventions dressed as Twilight Sparkle with a hole purposely put in the costume's ass. I wonder how he'll change it.
well to be fair that was Peacemaker's Green Arrow, even Economous agreeing could have just been going along with the joke, so that could easily be retconned as Peacemaker making up standard Peacemaker bullshit. Would be funny though if he has some fight scene in a brony convention where has to dress up like that for some plot reason and at the end of the scene Peacemaker is just watching him come out of the costume@@lancehowelllagunay1943
Just based on how many times you have used the clip, it just goes to show how impactful and important to the story arcs that moment where superman is giving the speech about disbanding is.
Green arrow was the best character in jlu imo, and jlu is why i still love his character the most. I think he ended up being what batman was supposed to be
Decades ago I had a debate with someone over Batman versus Green Arrow. I won't lie, Ollie being "an old lefty" was part of my bias against him, and that he'd rather (at times) earn the respect of the criminal element than just stomp them out like Batman would do made me see him as weak, or at least less effective. But in time, and in no small part because of JLU, I came to really respect him, his kind of compassion, his standing up for the little guy in light of the large interests that don't care for said little guy, and even his viewpoint that "the government must do for people what people can't do for themselves" kinda became a core value for me (even if I think people need to take more agency for themselves than sometimes they do, but that's a side rant). Now GA is one of my more respected DC heroes. And as was said, he is the guy in the middle that is needed to bring people together. God we need more like him today. And on your final point, Stephen Amell definitely got Ollie's chest muscle definition down pat even if his live action incarnation was more of a Batman in a Green Arrow costume but he kills rampantly for a season, and he just bangs everyone in sight. But he's still cool. Would love to see James Gunn use Amell as GA in his new DC universe.
Honestly, I am sure how much of the comics you have read but in the 90s before rebirth Green Arrow was ridiculous liberal so much so that he was often made fun of by himself and the writers for it. Secondly, Green Arrow has a different relationship with killing than Batman as that Green Arrow will kill but only if absolutely necessary whereas Batman is even more stringent with that. That was what Arrow tried to explore in the first season because there was a point in the comics where Green Arrow basically abandoned this moral position. In fact the difference that people often miss between Batman and Green Arrow is that you can argue that Bruce became Batman when he was 8 years old while Oliver did not become Green Arrow until he was stranded on that island so a large part of Oliver's character is trying to atone for his mistakes (which Arrow also explored).
I would’ve upvoted but I can’t stand narrow minded casting and clinging to previous actors. The characters are bigger than any single actor. And I’d rather see mask than pretty face incessantly. It’s vanity/career move over proper portrayal, just like the Rock as Black Adam. James Gunn will pick an inspired choice and you will be blown away, Amell paling in comparison.
@@henrypeters5291 regarding clinging to them as an actor or inappropriate portrayal of "Barry"? I hope you don't mean they (Ezra) continue in James Gunn universe.
@@indatube I was referring to when Miller was cast instead of Grant Gustin. Even if I were to ignore all the shit Miller has pulled, Gustin is still the superior Flash and Barry Allen by miles. Look, I am all for giving actors a fair shot. And I do not agree with being pessimistic for the sake of being pessimistic. But I also do not agree with being optimistic for the sake of being optimistic. I agree with the original poster that Amell would do a great job, and he definitely deserves a chance, but if he is replaced it is either going to be good or bad. There is no guarantee either way. Also, quick side note. James Gunn is a great storyteller and he understands DC better than any executive has in a long time, but the fact that he called the Flash the greatest superhero movie ever seriously concerns me (I did not even think it was that bad, but damn did he contribute to the hype). Also, there is just something about how he is running things that sends a red flag up the pole.
I love how both the cw green arrow and this version is the glue for their respective justice leagues in their own ways. Even though hes sorrounded my superman, the flash, supergirl, and other powered heros he still manages to make them respect him and in terms of the cw fear him as well because of his honesty and love.
I have to say I’m a fan of yours because you make me feel nostalgic and give a deeper analysis of the shows I grew up watching as a kid. Justice and Justice League unlimited are classic. Your music selection as well is top tier. I get emotional with some of your videos but in a good way thank you and please continue what you’re doing.
The thing is, it’s the flash that keeps them honest. He’s the heart and soul of the team so they’ve already got that covered and don’t really need green arrow but he’s nice to have around what green arrow doesn’t understand is that the justice league saves the world which means they save the little guys.
A lowly human Archer who shot so true he was accepted amongst the gods and acted as the voice of mankind. Oliver Queen when described objectively is a fucking wild character and I love him for it
This show was fundamental to my childhood and defined my view of what a hero and an adult should be. I believe it has the most definitive versions of the characters that have ever been produced.
great video essay. green arrow has always interested me more then hawkeye because he exists in a world where the most popular and apparently not superhuman character (batman) also exists. this video shows that ollie is a way to give a human perspective to those that are the gods amongst men. thank you
Man I actually teared up I am going to find your patreon. Today I started out with with a little more hope and faith. And that is why I loved love comic books.
This Green Arrow was great. I loved it everytime he is on screen. When he was calling out Supes, I was 100 percent there. Y'all get mind controlled on the regular, so yeah having some kryptonite around is a good thing.
The DCAU produced some of the best characters based off the comics. In my opinion they had the best version of Batman, Green Arrow, the Question, Wonder Woman, Hawk Girl, Martian Man, Captain Atom, Huntress and probably more im forgetting. I would say a very realistic version of Superman. A normal guy who does have an anger problem. I would say the best but Christopher Reeves, the supermen from both the new superman and lois shows.
I love DCAU! are you ever planning on making essay videos for good old teen titans? or maybe some more young justice stuff. why not the new-52 whole verse?
As off topic as it might sound, I really appreciated how this show didn't shy away from Ollie's politics. The show has episodes with political themes, but Green Arrow is the only character in the entire show who straight up identifies as a "leftie". I myself am not a leftie, I'm not really sure what I would classify myself as, but Green Arrow is one of the very, very few characters in comics who's political leanings are integral to who he is as a character, and I really appreciate that JLU didn't try to dumb it down or sweep it under the rug because it was a kids show. Dwayne McDuffy looked at a bunch of kids and said "Here's your staunchly liberal POV character, have fun" and we fucking did.
"I'm the only guy in here without superpowers" **consciously pans to Batman** Dude, I LOVE your editing style. And personally, I think your Lex Luthor is bald video was your absolute best. Keep em coming.
I love this scene
Green Arrow: Batman said I was supposed to keep you guys honest.
Superman: Do I look like Batman to you?
Flash: Actually you kinda do.
It was a good indicator of two things: Batman's confidence in Green Arrow keeping the League's head straight, and Flash being true to his role as the Heart of the League.
He's an archer. I feel like his back muscles would be FAR more impressive
I mean, they are. Did you miss those Lats?
Every man has the same body shape ngl
God they really made every character a main character. With their own perspectives and opinions. There is not a bad character in that massive team and that is still impressive.
such a testament to good writing
Green arrow is a billionaire who can’t do half the things Batman can. Would be better if he put time and money into his city instead of upgrading his bow and arrows
@@PoutingScout Both he and Bruce do. It's just no one want's to watch a rich guy spend several hours in a board meeting discussing policies.
@@jasonsmith6219 I mean I will, what does bat-business look like?
@@PoutingScout That is why having Bruce parents donated to the city is important. It shows that giving money does not solve the problem. Bruce as Batman problely improved more lives than all the money he gave away. It been shown giving more money can make problems worse.
I think this was a lot of people's introduction to Green Arrow and imo one of the best adaptions of the character. Went from not being a team player like Batman, to becoming one of the most humble and beating heart of the league.
I have watched the Arrowverse version of Ollie since 2014 and even though I liked that version, this version for me is one of the one . He doesn't act like Batman and doesn't need to, he is charming and funny as hell.
I hope we get more versions like this one
They turn leftist hero Oliver Queen into a cop. HOW???
smallville
The flash is more so the heart of the team.
"Do I look like Batman to you?"
"Actually, you kind of do."
This is fucking hilarious, why isn't anyone talking about how brilliant this exchange is? it almost breaks the fourth wall lmao
It's not a 4th wall break, he just means Superman is being moany and sulky
I totally clicked on this because Oliver is in a towel. Plus, DCAU essays are always awesome.
I'm not gay but shi... Bruce and Ollie had be reconsidering a couple things
Funny, I clicked on this because DCAU essay. Plus, Oliver in a towel is always awesome.
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With NO respect to Stephen Amell, THIS is the best version of Green Arrow. His belief in people, his strong principles, the fact that he rides into battle while singing his own theme song, it all makes for a little man who’s earned his place among gods. Also, dang he and Black Canary are great together.
This is the best version of the DC Universe
No respect to Stephen Amell actually cause he's anti-worker
the Arrow character was clearly not conceived to be Green Arrow, it was conceived to be Batman with Green Arrow origin and abilities, it was more of a Bruce Wayne, it lacks the political opinion, the anti far right. Even the actor doesn't understand that unions are actually something good.
@@_BlockDeNotasI didn’t watch more than a few episodes, but he’s not even really Batman from what I saw. He lacks his morals completely.
@@dankaroos he walked his comments back on facebook to be fair.
Finally some Green Arrow appreciation, both character wise and body wise
Green arrow’s character makes up for his seemingly boring skill in archery. Then you get hit by a boxing glove arrow.
"... and Canary said a buzzsaw arrow was self-indulgent."
Oliver Queen and Wally West are the main two characters that keep the team together. I miss Wally West and wish the actor who voiced him and played Lex in Smallville got a chance to play him in live action.
Legit. My favorite episodes are Green Arrow episodes, Flash episodes, and The Greatest Story Never Told.
Green arrow is the most hated character in my eyes. He so damn corny and cheesy. A lucky lefty who always blurting out his liberalism. Fortunately he fit and helps balance things out.
“hot guys.”
Finally a video essay for me.
That "I'm an old lefty" speech from Green Arrow informs my understanding of what left-wing and right-wing are to this day. If the left wing says "The government must do for the people what the people cannot do for themselves," then the right wing says "The government must not do for the people what the people can do for themselves." A bit oversimplified, but it shakes out.
And just like those two thoughts together, from both parties- it all shakes out
@@GDKF0238 I see the _parties-_ that is, the Democrats and Republicans- as both left-wing. Both liberally utilize government to impose, on paper, the will of the people upon the people. The only difference is what exactly that imposition is. The closest thing to a right wing the US government has is the Libertarian party, which is anemic and impotent. Its mission statement, however, indicates the intent of minimizing the influence of government on the people. I would call that right-wing.
@@SaltpeterTaffy jesus christ on a cross, you're stupid
@@SaltpeterTaffyyou are fucking crazy lol. We have two right wing countries in this country, and every country in the world thinks this.
You do not understand what makes someone right or left wing. It’s a government, it’s always going to act like a government.
The left and right are not necessarily what you think they are if you’re just thinking it’s about who uses the government. It’s all about how it’s used. What it’s limits are. But if you have a government then it’s gotta impose some kind of will on the people otherwise you don’t have a government.
Like by your own definition Fascism wouldn’t be right wing, despite it being well known as the furthest extreme of it, like Communism is about the furthest left you can get.
@@SaltpeterTaffy It's an interesting view. I never thought I would see someone describe Republicans as left-wing, let alone americans (I'm not American btw). Always good to see a new perspective.
Thank you for planning a separate video on the relationship between Green Arrow and Black Canary. Like his blonde hair, goatee, and charming grin, this ship shows off another magical chemistry missing from the CW Arrow. I know I'm not the only one looking forward to it. ❤
I watched multiple seasons of Arrow, hoping to one day see the character I loved.
I eventually gave up after the third Huntress episode, when they finally finished assassinating her character.
Just a small little detail i love about the cadmis arc, an arc about superheros facing off against the politics of the modern world, the two non-original 7 members that played the biggest role in it were green arrow & the question, one hero who actively calls himself "an old leftie" and the other hero who is fairly conservative/created by a conservative writer (A is A).
"The purpose of this video is to talk about Ollie's chest muscles" I mean... yeah, his heart is a muscle 😂
It all started with Kevin Conroy and his Batman and JLU and Batman Beyond was the epitome of DC is and what it could be beyond the original Crisis storyline. Green Arrow was a great addition to it
Ollie was my favorite character beyond the main cast, because he sticks with his discomfort with the League and moves past it (like a good lefty); Question, Supergirl, and Shining Knight are my close 2nd faves for obvious reasons.
Speaking of the Question, I feel it could be argued that him and green arrow are the two non original 7 members that played the biggest roles during the Cadmus arc, an arc about superheroes having to face off against modern day political systems/government. This is thematically brilliant because like you said Oliver is an old lefty and the question can be seen as a conservative hero (his original creator was openly so & in show question references one of his earlier characters Mr. A
Let's not also forget that chemistry ( and the innuendos) between Ollie and Dinah. 😏
Edit after catching the last blurb: Of _course_ you're gonna make it into another video. I'll wait with baited breath.
To be *that* guy: “bated”.
@@johndaily263 I thought it was "baited" as in he was wanting to get our attention and then snag us like a fish.
These videos make me wanna rewatch the Cadmus arc so bad.
Same
What makes Ollie work so well is that he's in just as much a morally perilous position in the show as anyone else; early on, there's a joking conversation shared by him and Black Canary about how Ollie just sold his company for a hefty payday. Ollie is almost as rich as Bruce or Lex, and that could easily keep him out of touch with the people he saves on a daily basis, but he's steadfast in keeping himself grounded and focused on what's right. He's seen both sides, the apathy and the corruption of power or status, and he keeps his head on straight through it. That's why Bruce was so insistent: if Ollie is just like Bruce in the beginning, he's also the more gentle and empathetic touch that Bruce couldn't provide alone.
JLU is objectively the best Superhero show that doesn't have one main character. BTAS still holds that lofty award.
“Look, I’m an old Lefty,” that’s it, that’s Green Arrow in a nutshell
This era was DC at its absolute best, and it is delightful to revisit through your lens and videos. Merci beaucoup! 👏
yeah comic wise, movie wise and cartoon wise aswell dc was at their peak the only reason DC and Marvel is debatable atm is because the DCEU movies never got a director that understood the characters or generally respected them, which is something the MCU had and spider-man (we cant forget about him)
Always pull at least one tear, my guy.
Ollie is Such a Great character in the DCAU.
Gods... I miss the JLU shows. I'm lucky I got to binge them about 7-8yrs ago on Netflix.
This and the Green Arrow DC Showcase were the absolute best adaptations of the character to date. Since James Gunn has said he’s a massive GA fan, hopefully he’ll get his due in the upcoming DCU sometime soon.
This is the version of GA that made me fall in love with the character.
Green Arrow is a great middle ground. I think everyone needs somebody who can speak to both sides to find common ground.
he's kinda hot too
This is the show you watch if you're still asking "why would anyone like Green Arrow" or if you're wondering why people like DC in general.
The phrase, 'Im an old leftie' in an American kids cartoon. Wild lol
This show addressed so much that went over kids’ (and adults’ heads), but I love that it never talked down to the audience. There was racism, there was sexism, there was politics, murder, love, laughter, and oftentimes more than one right answer. It’s just impossible for me to see this show as anything less than a masterpiece
You know how there's a lot of cartoons that are written with a kid audience in mind first but also with enough depth and nuance that they also attract a sizable adult audience? Well I firmly believe that it's reversed when it comes to the DCAU. These shows were written for grown up fans of DC first but also put enough restrictions on writing that kids can also watch them and follow along without anything objectionable or confusing. Maybe a few lines that would go over a kids head nothing that would confuse them enough that they couldn't follow the plot.
I agree. Ollie's chest muscles 👀👀👀
This show is why Green Arrow and Question are my favorite heroes (besides Superman). It has a way of making every hero shine with great lines, “As I suspected, 32 flavors.” and character moments.
DCAU Question is basically PG-13 Rorschach
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 To some degree yes. Rorschach and the conspiracies he believes are often populist right wing narratives on the failure of modern society while Question’s conspiracies tend to be “What’s really going beneath surface” ones. But yeah Rorschach was modeled on him and it’s clear that influence has gone the other way since the publication of Watchmen in the 80’s to some degree. They both believe that the failure of individuals to act is unforgiven as we see when Question attempts to kill Luthor and when Rorschach confronts Manhattan despite the consequences of both.
No one ever talks about Smallville Green Arrow. Justin Hartley really killed it
7:44 editing b2b scenes where Ollie is talking to Superman and then to Brainiac 5 is INSANE
“That’s a job for Superman. Admit it genius, you’re in love with her” made me do SUCH a DOUBLE TAKE
JLU really reinvigorated the Green Arrow brand (for better or worse). There's no way the Arrow series would have existed without JLU, or him being such a major player in the Injustice games.
Plus, Ollie looks fantastic in just a towel! :]
idk about anyone else but watching superman the animated series as a kid was where i discovered a lot of things about myself. thanks, DCAU
Hahaha. Fantastic joke at the end, and Ollie is a fantastic character to extrapolate on. Well done!
I appreciate how much perspectives, even political ones, were explored with maturity in JL/JLU. People had respect for each other despite different views, bc everyone was just trying to do the right thing.
The absolute best intro over the entire website of youtube.
I really liked Arrow, and enjoyed Amell's "Green Batman", but I hope when Gunn's DC gets going we get a Green Arrow like this.
James Gunn's current version of Green Arrow goes to Brony conventions dressed as Twilight Sparkle with a hole purposely put in the costume's ass. I wonder how he'll change it.
well to be fair that was Peacemaker's Green Arrow, even Economous agreeing could have just been going along with the joke, so that could easily be retconned as Peacemaker making up standard Peacemaker bullshit. Would be funny though if he has some fight scene in a brony convention where has to dress up like that for some plot reason and at the end of the scene Peacemaker is just watching him come out of the costume@@lancehowelllagunay1943
ok but Ollie's side pecks sticking out of his costume is just something else!
Beautiful opening montage, another banger essay.
Just based on how many times you have used the clip, it just goes to show how impactful and important to the story arcs that moment where superman is giving the speech about disbanding is.
I absolutely adore the dcau green arrow its portrayal of him made him one of my favorite dc characters overall
It really was well written.
Epitome of professionalism and talent
This Oliver is still my favorite version of him. The CW just doesn’t hit the same way.
Green arrow was the best character in jlu imo, and jlu is why i still love his character the most. I think he ended up being what batman was supposed to be
Decades ago I had a debate with someone over Batman versus Green Arrow. I won't lie, Ollie being "an old lefty" was part of my bias against him, and that he'd rather (at times) earn the respect of the criminal element than just stomp them out like Batman would do made me see him as weak, or at least less effective. But in time, and in no small part because of JLU, I came to really respect him, his kind of compassion, his standing up for the little guy in light of the large interests that don't care for said little guy, and even his viewpoint that "the government must do for people what people can't do for themselves" kinda became a core value for me (even if I think people need to take more agency for themselves than sometimes they do, but that's a side rant). Now GA is one of my more respected DC heroes. And as was said, he is the guy in the middle that is needed to bring people together. God we need more like him today.
And on your final point, Stephen Amell definitely got Ollie's chest muscle definition down pat even if his live action incarnation was more of a Batman in a Green Arrow costume but he kills rampantly for a season, and he just bangs everyone in sight. But he's still cool. Would love to see James Gunn use Amell as GA in his new DC universe.
Honestly, I am sure how much of the comics you have read but in the 90s before rebirth Green Arrow was ridiculous liberal so much so that he was often made fun of by himself and the writers for it. Secondly, Green Arrow has a different relationship with killing than Batman as that Green Arrow will kill but only if absolutely necessary whereas Batman is even more stringent with that. That was what Arrow tried to explore in the first season because there was a point in the comics where Green Arrow basically abandoned this moral position. In fact the difference that people often miss between Batman and Green Arrow is that you can argue that Bruce became Batman when he was 8 years old while Oliver did not become Green Arrow until he was stranded on that island so a large part of Oliver's character is trying to atone for his mistakes (which Arrow also explored).
I would’ve upvoted but I can’t stand narrow minded casting and clinging to previous actors. The characters are bigger than any single actor. And I’d rather see mask than pretty face incessantly. It’s vanity/career move over proper portrayal, just like the Rock as Black Adam. James Gunn will pick an inspired choice and you will be blown away, Amell paling in comparison.
@@indatube You know they said the same thing about Ezra Miller and the Flash.
@@henrypeters5291 regarding clinging to them as an actor or inappropriate portrayal of "Barry"? I hope you don't mean they (Ezra) continue in James Gunn universe.
@@indatube I was referring to when Miller was cast instead of Grant Gustin. Even if I were to ignore all the shit Miller has pulled, Gustin is still the superior Flash and Barry Allen by miles.
Look, I am all for giving actors a fair shot. And I do not agree with being pessimistic for the sake of being pessimistic. But I also do not agree with being optimistic for the sake of being optimistic. I agree with the original poster that Amell would do a great job, and he definitely deserves a chance, but if he is replaced it is either going to be good or bad. There is no guarantee either way.
Also, quick side note. James Gunn is a great storyteller and he understands DC better than any executive has in a long time, but the fact that he called the Flash the greatest superhero movie ever seriously concerns me (I did not even think it was that bad, but damn did he contribute to the hype). Also, there is just something about how he is running things that sends a red flag up the pole.
The world needs the Justice League, and the Justice League needs you Superman!
I love how both the cw green arrow and this version is the glue for their respective justice leagues in their own ways. Even though hes sorrounded my superman, the flash, supergirl, and other powered heros he still manages to make them respect him and in terms of the cw fear him as well because of his honesty and love.
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Accurate
I will never get tired of saying that the Justice League animated series is the peak of DC.
Introduced me to a couple neat songs. Editing was on point. Sub.
Goddamn I'm gay
I have to say I’m a fan of yours because you make me feel nostalgic and give a deeper analysis of the shows I grew up watching as a kid. Justice and Justice League unlimited are classic. Your music selection as well is top tier. I get emotional with some of your videos but in a good way thank you and please continue what you’re doing.
This might be your best video yet.
Also, can’t argue with Ollie in a towel.
JLU is the reason Green Arrow is my favorite superhero. Just an absolute stand up guy, and a great mentor to Supergirl.
Through these, it’s evident just how well crafted the writing and storytelling in JLU was
Green arrow the man that grounds the league
8:37 holy hell, he's unraveling and I'm here for it! Great job on another video, friend
Always wondered how Bruce Waynes accountants cooks his books for him to buy all his stuff
The thing is, it’s the flash that keeps them honest. He’s the heart and soul of the team so they’ve already got that covered and don’t really need green arrow but he’s nice to have around what green arrow doesn’t understand is that the justice league saves the world which means they save the little guys.
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finally video essay on oliver absolutely love him need him in every justice league
How do you produce SO many banger video essays so fast. Literally insane.
I love Oliver Queen
A lowly human Archer who shot so true he was accepted amongst the gods and acted as the voice of mankind. Oliver Queen when described objectively is a fucking wild character and I love him for it
This version of the Green Arrow will always be my favorite. This show introduced him to me and he became one of my favorite characters
This show was fundamental to my childhood and defined my view of what a hero and an adult should be. I believe it has the most definitive versions of the characters that have ever been produced.
I love Batman and GA’s small scenes they share
great video essay. green arrow has always interested me more then hawkeye because he exists in a world where the most popular and apparently not superhuman character (batman) also exists. this video shows that ollie is a way to give a human perspective to those that are the gods amongst men. thank you
Man I actually teared up I am going to find your patreon. Today I started out with with a little more hope and faith. And that is why I loved love comic books.
RIP Dennis O Neil and Neal Adams. Green Arrow wouldn't be who he is, if they weren't who they were.
Man they really need to get him a MOVIE!
This version of Green Arrow is peak. Man zipglides and sings his own theme song.
There. I watched it. You can stop putting shirtless Green Arrow in my feed now, TH-cam. People are starting to get suspicious.
(goodtimeswithscar voice) hotguy!
I understood that reference
Another fantastic video another fantastic opening and such amazing editing.
an archer of that calibre has to have pecks and back muscles off the charts.
This Green Arrow was great. I loved it everytime he is on screen.
When he was calling out Supes, I was 100 percent there. Y'all get mind controlled on the regular, so yeah having some kryptonite around is a good thing.
Green Arrow was definitely one of my favorites in JLU
I’m glad someone put respect on my favorite comic book character. People talk way too much crap about my dawg Oliver Queen
The DCAU produced some of the best characters based off the comics. In my opinion they had the best version of Batman, Green Arrow, the Question, Wonder Woman, Hawk Girl, Martian Man, Captain Atom, Huntress and probably more im forgetting. I would say a very realistic version of Superman. A normal guy who does have an anger problem. I would say the best but Christopher Reeves, the supermen from both the new superman and lois shows.
yea can we get more hot guy talks
now guys, i think this might just be a video. Jokes aside, I always love listening to your video essays while I'm playing video games.
The one fault this video has is not showing GA singing his theme song while sliding into battle.
Most out of pocket title and thumbnail to come out of this man
I love DCAU! are you ever planning on making essay videos for good old teen titans? or maybe some more young justice stuff. why not the new-52 whole verse?
That speech was hard ASF
As off topic as it might sound, I really appreciated how this show didn't shy away from Ollie's politics. The show has episodes with political themes, but Green Arrow is the only character in the entire show who straight up identifies as a "leftie".
I myself am not a leftie, I'm not really sure what I would classify myself as, but Green Arrow is one of the very, very few characters in comics who's political leanings are integral to who he is as a character, and I really appreciate that JLU didn't try to dumb it down or sweep it under the rug because it was a kids show. Dwayne McDuffy looked at a bunch of kids and said "Here's your staunchly liberal POV character, have fun" and we fucking did.
And then he shoots a man with a boxing glove arrow, coolest shit I've ever seen.
I just found this channel and wow your essays are incredible, brb gonna study you like theres no tomorrow loll
the ending caught me off guard haha
i watched one episode of the justice leage and Green Arrow was already my favorite character
Thank you for that spit take
Best version of Green Arrow.
I still think the final 4 episodes of justice league unlimited season 1 is the best piece of media dc has ever produced its so fucking good
My second most favourite take on Ollie after his comic return in Quiver.
Man, I gotta tell you, this was a video!
Is always cool see a video talking about my boy Ollie
"I'm the only guy in here without superpowers" **consciously pans to Batman**
Dude, I LOVE your editing style. And personally, I think your Lex Luthor is bald video was your absolute best. Keep em coming.