Fascinating stuff, I love these tactical analysis videos. I was particularly impressed by how Wales swapped Biggar into the back field to give a better kicking option ad Pens chased his own kick.
Thank you for taking a look and commenting! Really glad you're enjoying the content! I'm doing a Live Review of Wales v Ireland on the RugbyPass channel tomorrow straight after the game if you're interested!
Really liked this analysis, I have been trying to wrap my brain around using 13+2. Interested to see the 9/10/12. move out to the edge and 13/14 on the other edge.
We are looking at moving to a 13 2 from a Pendulum. The biggest thing with the 9 in the line in that example is the lack of jockey cover in the 2nd line? What's your thoughts on that with the 9 flat in the line most of the time?
Just one question, do you think that teams with this sistem (13-2) are trying to challenge the attack team to kick chips or grubbers? cause they are leaving that space behind the line. One nz coach told me that, they dont care about the chips or grubbers cause normally are a 50-50 to be recover by the attacking team. I like the 9 in that posicion like allblacks normally do. What do you think about that?
Hi Tomas, it's a case of trying to manage the variables. By being in this 13+2 shape their primary concern is protecting the touchlines so they are more prepared to allows the chips & grubbers. As you say the percentages aren't great for those kicks, although teams do concede when they do come off! Yeah I'm a fan of 9 in the channel, but I also like the 9 in the 7 position at the back of the lineout!
Brilliant video! I have a suggestion! Is it possible to have the play-by-play on fullscreen while you are breaking it down? Like maybe editing yourself with a green screen at the corner of the video would be great! Nevertheless great video! Thank you
Thanks for taking a look! Yes I agree that video needed more full screen in it. The Ospreys one I did was a better balance I think. The last 3 have just been the video without me in it. Trying to find a balance that works!
Quality slides and coaching - would you apply this defensive structure in all parts of the field as default? Obviously as you mentioned, there are times the either of the back 2 would need to come up into the line, perhaps on the outer fringes i.e when the ball reaches the attacking wing. Thanks!
Thanks for taking a look! It doesn't tend to be employed at all times. Generally you'd see it in phase play between the 22's. Most teams got to 14+1 closer to their own try line and will have a 12+3 in the opposition 22m. But there's huge variation depending on whether it's a scrum, lineout, restart, the situation of the game, who the opposition are etc.!
I prefer a 13+2 as a pendulum is a feature of the system too, mainly when the defence get exposed out wide, so the backfield player has to push up. The issue of a pendulum for me is the constant unnecessary moving & the issue of leaving potentially more grass exposed near the touch lines!
@@GeraintDaviesGDD I'm curious to see the analytics on 13+2 vs. pendulum. Qs: Does the pendulum (or 13+2) tend to give up more short clearances (due to being hurried by chasers) resulting in better field position for attacking lineouts? Same Q: for 22 dropouts or other bad results (turnovers, adverse tries) for the defending team, i.e. the team receiving or chasing down kicks?
Some teams (Scarlets/Argentina) put the 10 in the channel so he can drop when the threat has past. Some drop the 10 from kick offs, & kick exits etc (Wales do this). Biggar was in the back field by phase 3 & that’s fairly typical!
@@GeraintDaviesGDD It is going to be very interesting if you make a preview of every team from the six nations and make a competition. Let’s say first round Scotland v England. Make a preview and do a competition. The winner wins one of your GDD T-shirts
Geraint - brilliant analysis on 13+2 defensive system. Keep up the good work mate.
Thank you, Abel! Really glad you enjoyed it. Lots more to come I hope!
Fascinating stuff, I love these tactical analysis videos. I was particularly impressed by how Wales swapped Biggar into the back field to give a better kicking option ad Pens chased his own kick.
Thanks, Misty! Backfield management is such a massive part of the elite game, yet I see little if any analysis on it!
Well explained and detailed nicely. Well done. What program or app are you using the highlight players etc. Ta.
Very insightful and detail is fascinating.
Thanks for taking a look, Dafydd. Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
Absolutely brilliant video, I'm learning so much from you.
Glad you liked it, Lewis 👍🏻
Can you recommend any videos or links for drills to coach this? My team only able to do pendulum but I’m keen to progress them to 13+2
As always, pinpoint analysis... thank you !
Thank you, Gilles! Now to find time to make a new one!
Love your work mate very informative
Thank you for taking a look and commenting! Really glad you're enjoying the content! I'm doing a Live Review of Wales v Ireland on the RugbyPass channel tomorrow straight after the game if you're interested!
great explanation
Great job. Tons to learn!!
Thank you! Videos coming thick and fast at the minute!
Really liked this analysis, I have been trying to wrap my brain around using 13+2. Interested to see the 9/10/12. move out to the edge and 13/14 on the other edge.
Glad you liked it, Michael. It's tough because of the poor TV angles! I'd do some more on it too👍
We are looking at moving to a 13 2 from a Pendulum. The biggest thing with the 9 in the line in that example is the lack of jockey cover in the 2nd line? What's your thoughts on that with the 9 flat in the line most of the time?
Great Stuff boy! Thanks!
Thanks for taking a look!
Brilliant thank you. Are you doing these videos for the 6N?
A pleasure! Yes, I'm hoping to get something out pretty quickly following the games, provided I can get footage quickly!
Just one question, do you think that teams with this sistem (13-2) are trying to challenge the attack team to kick chips or grubbers? cause they are leaving that space behind the line. One nz coach told me that, they dont care about the chips or grubbers cause normally are a 50-50 to be recover by the attacking team. I like the 9 in that posicion like allblacks normally do. What do you think about that?
as always awsome work and really clear concepts
Hi Tomas, it's a case of trying to manage the variables. By being in this 13+2 shape their primary concern is protecting the touchlines so they are more prepared to allows the chips & grubbers. As you say the percentages aren't great for those kicks, although teams do concede when they do come off! Yeah I'm a fan of 9 in the channel, but I also like the 9 in the 7 position at the back of the lineout!
@@GeraintDaviesGDD thanks answering my question!
A pleasure!
Brilliant video! I have a suggestion! Is it possible to have the play-by-play on fullscreen while you are breaking it down? Like maybe editing yourself with a green screen at the corner of the video would be great!
Nevertheless great video! Thank you
Thanks for taking a look! Yes I agree that video needed more full screen in it. The Ospreys one I did was a better balance I think. The last 3 have just been the video without me in it. Trying to find a balance that works!
Quality slides and coaching - would you apply this defensive structure in all parts of the field as default? Obviously as you mentioned, there are times the either of the back 2 would need to come up into the line, perhaps on the outer fringes i.e when the ball reaches the attacking wing. Thanks!
Thanks for taking a look! It doesn't tend to be employed at all times. Generally you'd see it in phase play between the 22's. Most teams got to 14+1 closer to their own try line and will have a 12+3 in the opposition 22m. But there's huge variation depending on whether it's a scrum, lineout, restart, the situation of the game, who the opposition are etc.!
@@GeraintDaviesGDD Thank you for taking the time to a answer! I appreciate it and this makes sense. Love your work mate, keep it up!
Great stuff maye
Thank you for taking a look, Leigh!
Great Video
Thank you for taking a look, Meep!
Do you prefer a 13-2 or a pendulum Geraint? Which do you think is more effective?
I prefer a 13+2 as a pendulum is a feature of the system too, mainly when the defence get exposed out wide, so the backfield player has to push up. The issue of a pendulum for me is the constant unnecessary moving & the issue of leaving potentially more grass exposed near the touch lines!
@@GeraintDaviesGDD I'm curious to see the analytics on 13+2 vs. pendulum.
Qs: Does the pendulum (or 13+2) tend to give up more short clearances (due to being hurried by chasers) resulting in better field position for attacking lineouts?
Same Q: for 22 dropouts or other bad results (turnovers, adverse tries) for the defending team, i.e. the team receiving or chasing down kicks?
Really good video. Out of interest how would you get 10 into the back field instead of 9?
Some teams (Scarlets/Argentina) put the 10 in the channel so he can drop when the threat has past. Some drop the 10 from kick offs, & kick exits etc (Wales do this). Biggar was in the back field by phase 3 & that’s fairly typical!
Good Work!
Thank you for taking a look, Santiago!
Just your accent Geraint !!! I am a Frog so it sounds sometimes a bit rough to me. Great analyses !!!
Thank you kindly!
Great job
Thank you as always! Hopefully one more to come this week!
@@GeraintDaviesGDD It is going to be very interesting if you make a preview of every team from the six nations and make a competition. Let’s say first round Scotland v England. Make a preview and do a competition. The winner wins one of your GDD T-shirts
@@Debrenliev That's a really cool idea! I'll see what I can do in the time I've got between now and then!
This would be a lot more enjoyable if you could full screen the gameplay then just talk over it like you did for like 5 seconds in the video
This was a bit of an experiment to see how it worked. Hope you took something from the video nevertheless!
Great video