Rugby: France's Defence System

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  • Rugby Coaching: In this rugby video, I look at France's most recent games in the Autumn Nations Cup and look at how the system is developing under Shaun Edwards.
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  • @lukebridgwater6288
    @lukebridgwater6288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I've been trying to find a video like this for ages, so thank you for ending that suffering

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for having a look, Luke!

    • @tjv2258
      @tjv2258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been in the same bandwagon with Luke.

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tjv2258 Thanks for taking a look!

  • @44irwi
    @44irwi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    An important starting point on Galthie's system is that he defends with the 15 and 10 deep and wingers on the line. Enables wingers to run less, a better coverage of the kicks and to have your 2 best kickers to kick the ball back.

  • @BrunoDECOURCY
    @BrunoDECOURCY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think Dusautoir mentioned something very true on the Scotland game.
    When you defend a lot, you start to lose your cool attitude and you start to be too aggressive. And you pay the price as penalties.
    A very good point for me.

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, limiting the penalties will be a big factor!

  • @ianwebb2235
    @ianwebb2235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That was really interesting. I am a Welshman living in Japan - been out here almost 20 years. As a Welshman,,,,, man we miss the influence of Edwards!!

    • @ay613
      @ay613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      how is it in japan?

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ian. I'm glad you found it interesting. I'm also interested to see how Wales are looking in the 2021 six nations which is right around the corner.

    • @ianwebb2235
      @ianwebb2235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ay613 wet and cold at the moment😝

    • @ay613
      @ay613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ianwebb2235 Almost like you never left?😅

    • @abe000torte
      @abe000torte 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianwebb2235 Do you watch rugby games ? National team were so brilliant at the WC. How is the league ?

  • @loicmaupied8906
    @loicmaupied8906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    we re back dude ;)

  • @usarugbyleagueunionfan
    @usarugbyleagueunionfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect timing. I watched an 18 Shaun Edwards at Fullback with Wigan vs Hull FC 1985 at Wembley (Challenge Cup) today. The dude is good.

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His highlight reel is great! A very fierce competitor!

  • @DrAAAli
    @DrAAAli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mate you need to do a whole 1 hour special on Bruce Dulins personal defence system that snatched defeat like a hungry croc from the jaws of victory.

  • @illhavenoneofthat
    @illhavenoneofthat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shaun Edwards has had a massive impact on the french defence, he’s proven over a long period of time to be an excellent coach. I really wonder why he hasn’t been part of the England coaching team he seems a passionate man.

    • @Deustien
      @Deustien 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are friends with Galthié

    • @theric66
      @theric66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Deustien he was ibanez coach at london wasps

  • @jeanverjean5636
    @jeanverjean5636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad to watch your analyses, very good explained.
    Excellent work
    :)

  • @TheAragorn22
    @TheAragorn22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always, really fantastic analysis. No suggestions either, just keep up the good work!

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, mate! I’m glad you like the video.

  • @rovingwaves1199
    @rovingwaves1199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really interesting, will be another biscuit against England. You reckon the defensive system is the same system as Wales in the 2010's?

  • @foucauldrenard4426
    @foucauldrenard4426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wonderful video thank you !

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Foucauld! I'm glad you liked it!

  • @emmanuelbrun6002
    @emmanuelbrun6002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Again really nice video, always a pleasure to learn about my team's strategy :D. Keep going!

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Emmanuel!

    • @dommartin8814
      @dommartin8814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it's a very useful video because it's not with the pathetic French TV or Radio commentators and so-called "consultants" that we can expect something like that.
      In fact, they are useless and incompetent. Thank you again for this video, I learned so much!

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dommartin8814 thanks, mate! I'm glad you enjoyed the video 👊

  • @shinywarm6906
    @shinywarm6906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. I think it highlights what has happened to Wales since Edwards left. From this stereotyped and simple 'drill' type defence, they've tried to encourage more individual decision-making in defence. Result = uncoordinated "shooters", uncoordinated tackle entry etc

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi! Yeah, Wales are still finding their feet in defence but I thought the tackle selection was much better vs England. I'm interested to see how they develop.

  • @paolobocca9018
    @paolobocca9018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in the red zone the French defend the ball carrier by putting the knee on the ground, they do not advance on the tackle but they bring the man to the ground in order to contend the ball. in the match with Italy it was like this and it cannot be done .. ..in this video it looks very good

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, technically, you must be on your feet to make a tackle! Thanks for watching, Paolo.

  • @justsceptic3085
    @justsceptic3085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good job contact coach you're the best

  • @michaelsleftfoot352
    @michaelsleftfoot352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a rugby league defence system that edwards did with Wales for years b4going to France.. in league the ball is the threat hence why the high and low combined tackle .. the high tackler obviously preventing any offload

  • @mathieuambert9273
    @mathieuambert9273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video... very educative

  • @aleksr8890
    @aleksr8890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some Fly Half will maybe kick a bit more the ball behind french wingers, because 11 or 14 do not cover well a zone as they are on the same line as 10-12-13.

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Aleks. That is the risk and puts a lot of pressure on the 1/2 players in the back field.

  • @mathieuambert9273
    @mathieuambert9273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you add some comparison of defensive teams techniques?

  • @horaciosperanza4887
    @horaciosperanza4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good ! 👍

  • @yoe91
    @yoe91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting video as always. Why do you think France are committing the penalties though ? Is it just individual egg-headed plays and they just need to get smarter with time, or do you think it's due to something more systemic ?

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, Yoe. Hope you're doing well. Good question and I think it's a mix. You can look at the red card in Scotland and point towards that being stupid. Other things France are penalized for being offside- that should be sorted fast. Ruck penalties are tricky as the policy is to attack rucks aggressively in defense. This comes with pros and cons. The big con being understanding the referee and picking your battles. I think France will be much improved in this area come the Six Nations in 2021.

    • @yoe91
      @yoe91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ContactCoach Hey man. I see. You could also make the argument the offsides/ruck pens might be in part due to Top 14 Rugby being a bit slower than other leagues and the players having trouble adapting to the int'l game.

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true, weekly experience for the French players is a different game to international level. Great point.

  • @french.blackdevil1967
    @french.blackdevil1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Contact Coach, l think you will be in trouble if Shawn watches your video 🤣🤣🤣. Great job you did. All the french systems are explained here.. About the penalties, some are real but referees give more to French than to the other teams.. it's my opinion

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would not want to get on the wrong side of Edwards!! The French and British referee the game quite differently... particularly at the breakdown.

    • @red-onecpasmoijetaitentrai3400
      @red-onecpasmoijetaitentrai3400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They analyse the games. They don't need this vid

  • @fantasticcharisma6724
    @fantasticcharisma6724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bro cross kick passes could break that defense.

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can, and that depends a lot on the back-field setup. No defence is fool-proof but if a team attacks only one way, it might be enough.

  • @maximeevrard9153
    @maximeevrard9153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I noticed in a lot of the clips (not all) that France's 9 seems to be staying on the wing and not really getting involved (even though Dupont is a great tackler imo). Do you think this is tactical? or just a product of the flow of the game?

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going to see how this develops as the Six Nations approaches! Keep an eye out for a future video!

  • @space_cowboy007
    @space_cowboy007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you please explain how a ruck in the middle does not favor a quick line speed compared to a ruck on a 15m channel?

  • @CanardHurleur
    @CanardHurleur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, thank youwhat about England defense ?

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Paul! Here is my take th-cam.com/video/oLaXMt-iWKk/w-d-xo.html

  • @Nathan-uj5sl
    @Nathan-uj5sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so now how do you beat that kind of defence, any ideas?

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Nathan. Now this is easier said than done but a lot comes down to having a great platform through a dominant set-piece. That sets in motion carry dominance (winning the gain line). If an attack can get on the front foot that makes ruck efficiency (carry + effective clear out) easier as the defence are less prepared and retreating. It's a balance of not having too many players in an attacking ruck but also ensuring you're keeping fast ball. What you might see, if the attack does not get ascendancy early, the will kick to avoid the contest.

    • @Nathan-uj5sl
      @Nathan-uj5sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ContactCoach may be make a video or refer me to one

  • @andrewmoir
    @andrewmoir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Frances defence well respected in the N hemisphere? Always thought they were more attack orientated.

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The new era of the French play is very well respected!

    • @berengerlefort8612
      @berengerlefort8612 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since Galthié is coach, ppl of France dying for this for years. Everybody knew how he can be good and he knows how to surround himself with the best (Shaun) but for strange reasons never be in charge till now. New era, as Coach said.

  • @owenrichards8901
    @owenrichards8901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you expect them to defend as narrow against the likes of England?

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will be so interesting to see how they tweak things but I do not envisage a huge shift. I'm more interested to see how (if) England mix the game up. If it's an arm-wrestle at the ruck I expect a lot of kicking from England. If they get on the front foot then maybe some more phases (hopefully!). It's a young French team so it's a bit unknown right now.

  • @paulbourke6298
    @paulbourke6298 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is it that we're teaching our kids that they can't seal off with their hands on the floor but it happens all the time in pro rugby??

  • @iamnutty8471
    @iamnutty8471 ปีที่แล้ว

    to be fair wayne barnes has been morebent then monkey bars recently! i would activly vote for that shit bafg not to ref me!

  • @vincentc3475
    @vincentc3475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best Ally of the english : COVID 19 !!!

  • @sheedcainiste2061
    @sheedcainiste2061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn we need to think another strategy we will be copied …)

  • @superdetartrant
    @superdetartrant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing revolutionary. The difficulty is to do it efficiently during a whole match.

  • @ay613
    @ay613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    penalties cost them yesterday.

    • @joeloutau4956
      @joeloutau4956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *unjustified penalties

    • @ContactCoach
      @ContactCoach  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, some tough but some silly. Clean the discipline up and it will make a big difference.

    • @iraklibenashvili1779
      @iraklibenashvili1779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol the referee supported the britains teams everytime, france and italy play always 15vs16.

    • @joeloutau4956
      @joeloutau4956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ContactCoach You could justify a lot of them yes but then you have to whistle the same way the other team. For example, losing their feet on the ruck was a one sided decision

    • @morphilou
      @morphilou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ContactCoach remove the refere britsh also
      vs the english the france lose because 15 vs16