I feel really sorry for him. He never had an easy life. His childhood, the early death of his parents, he loses his arm and leg, his marriage did not work and then he is killed. Also the last sentence is even more depressing after TPP. But in PW he is still a funny guy who knows how to have a good time.
@@user-en4eo1cc4t He felt betrayed yet again when he realized that venom wasn't big boss. Did he deserved punishment for his crimes? Yes. Was he wrong to support solid in order to take revenge on big boss? Nope.
I really like the backstories in MGS--especially The Boss and Big Boss--but, I don't know... Kaz's felt the most real. Things that totally could have happened. Definitely makes it well, y'know, depressing.
I love Kaz regardless, but hearing him talking about how he's not going to die like that... when we all know what happens to him. :( It's heartbreaking. DAMNIT LIQUID, SERIOUSLY.
Miller is a part of Snake's personalities. This is why he had a similar upbringing to Naomi and was impersonated by Eli, Solid Snake's other persona. Miller is to Big Boss as Solid Snake is to Liquid. it's the biggest foreshadowing of the series no one has yet to understand but me
I'M CRYING, GENUINELY CRYING, NOW I REMEMBER WHY IS HE MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER, HE'S THE HUMAN TRAGEDY MAN I'M SOBBING I'M IN TEARS POOR MAN HE NEEDS A HUG, LOTS OF HUGS 😭😭😭😭
He ended up training Solid Snake (with 1 arm and leg) to kill Big Boss who was once his, probably bestfriend. Well, like Miller said War is just a business and it's good business and it also means it's not personal. It's sad that the bad guys won, Liquid ordered Ocelot to kill Miller
Well Ocelot *DID* say that one day they Wil be on different sides.... And then 1 of them will have to die Ocelot would never betray *BIG BOSS* he was so obsessed with him that he even used nanomachines and phyco therapy to make him self believe he is Liquid, so he could fool the system Ocelot wouldn't have a problem pulling the trigger to Miller
But in the end Miller won, Solid Snake managed to defeat every son of Big Boss and he himself became the strongest. In the end the one who saved the world multiple times was Snake the man he trained.
@@pixytorres7117 Also, it's a bit far fetched, a line thatvhas stuck to me from mgs 1 was Solid Snake saying, "Just because you're at war, doesn't mean you have to end a friendship." I like to think he caught on or heard such words from a jaded Miller who had time to reflect on things after he was taken out of the game between Patriots and Outer Heaven. Basically, he hates what Big Boss has done, but he refuses to end their friendship, same thing Zero felt for Big Boss too. If given a chance, they either reconcile or try and look past old faults.
@@erickvalencia2016 I have replayed MGS3 this year and there doesn't seem to be a mother-son relationship going on with them anyway. From what I remember, Ocelot was taken away by the Philosophers from his mother as soon as he was born. And then the two just ended up as the best (or worst?) spies in the world 😅 having to outdo each other.
Good Lord, after listening to this it makes me feel absolutely horrible for him in Phantom Pain. Kaz is a broken down shell of a man who will never return. And after the kick in the balls he got after learning the truth about Venom Snake, he still lusted for revenge even though he admitted it didn't bring him peace. Then to die in cold blood right before MGS. His only real accomplishment of pride was training Solid Snake.
I feel so sorry for Kaz... He had the perfect body for a solider, losing his arm and leg as a result for the torture, it's just brutal, he had his whole life ahead of him, and I think he had gone a little bit chubby( maybe lack of the ability for movements?) in TTP. Anyway, wanna give him a big hug.
Many people with sad childhood are killed, day by day, still, near us, Kaz is not exception. There is no peace on world. Great fragment, thanks for sharing!
Damn, that's sad. Even though he was named for peace, war and conflict was written into his DNA. Worse yet is that he never really found peace in his life, between watching MSF be destroyed, losing his arm, leg and his sight, Miller couldn't escape war and violence.
This was actually a pretty common story following post-war Japan. Lots of American men made Japanese women into wives and then abandoned them and their Japanese children, because they had already married American women that were waiting on them. They also brought diseases like Syphilis, which eats your mind and body if it's not treated early enough. There's tons of romantic movies about this phenomena, but the truth was far uglier than that.
this is 9 months late but Miller didnt betray him, he was assassinated by Liquid and Liquid assumed his identity. It explained at the end of Peace Walker and in the first game....I don't know what bullshit others were telling you but there wrong....
@Iforgot276 Actually, in the official timeline, Big Boss goes back to FOXHOUND. (Late 80s, early 90s.) Since Snake joins the unit in the 90s and received training from Miller, it's probably safe to say it wasn't at MSF since Miller was known to train other various groups. That and during MG2, he calls Big Boss a monster. So Miller probably left Outer Heaven somewhere after PW and some time before the first Metal Gear.
@lalluprasadindia because their ideals clashed, as BB wanted to throw the world into perpetual war, taking in war orphans only to feed them back into the battle field, while Miller wanted MSF to be a business. Either wait for it in the next game or don't worry about it.
Wow......... Now I actually feel bad..... I understand Miller even more now.... Fml MGS games can't let you hate a character without sympathizing with him first..... Well they always had these *morals games*
@Iforgot276 The point I was trying to make was that Snake wouldn't be part of/learn at Outer Heaven/MSF. As for the CQC, I don't think he explicitly stated that in MGS4. ... It's not really that strange, even if he does know it. CQC was just developed by Big Boss and The Boss, not strictly for them. So even if he did learn it from Big Boss, it's possible it was while Big Boss was in command of FOXHOUND just before the Outer Heaven Uprising in 1995.
@lalluprasadindia Well throughout PW he says that he wants to maintain a business. When BB becomes a warmonger in MG2 and wants to throw the world into perpetual war, going against the ideals that Miller was going for with MSF. Hey, if Zero and BB can go from good friends to bitter enemies the same can happen between these two friends. You know there's gonna be another Peace Walker-esque game, and they've got about 25 years between PW and MG2, either an answer will show or Kojima has forgotten.
@@sambridgers9543 I think he hates it because in this recording Kaz talks about such a personal issue and he does it with such confidence that it shows how much he appreciates and trusts Big Boss which makes Snake's betrayal so painful and that is very sad because it seems like Snake never cared about Kaz so Big Boss can go to hell
@@bigsoss1144 Kaz betrayed Big Boss so that's why Big Boss didn't cared about him. But still Kas got revenge and trained Snake who ended up killing Big Boss.
@Iforgot276 Ah, yeah. Okay. I try to avoid talking to Otacon so I didn't see this. Thank you. XD That answers that then. If they did make another entry or a remake, Snake would be training, yes. Just in FOXHOUND like I suggested as opposed to MSF/Outer Heaven like you originally stated. We were both technically right, just on different matters.
ummm.....kaz was part of the patriots...he sold out big boss and helped create liquid and solid snake. im not saying solid snake is a bad guy, but as big boss said, "the world would be better off wthout snakes"
the kind of cool thing was that Kaz kind of right and kind of wrong. In terms of war, he survived all of them. But by aligning himself with big boss, he ended up getting murdered by his clone...crazy
Master Miller is one of the most Mysterious and Desired to know Character's in the MGS Series They better do this right. I am a huge fan of MGS / miller hope they keep his voice from MGS 1 TS and Keep him cool like he is suppose to be - a Survival Instructor Hope they don't gay up the characters because this is kinda gay. Mega Gay.
I feel really sorry for him. He never had an easy life. His childhood, the early death of his parents, he loses his arm and leg, his marriage did not work and then he is killed.
Also the last sentence is even more depressing after TPP. But in PW he is still a funny guy who knows how to have a good time.
He's a fiction character
+sebi marius ??so????? It's still sad you rudeass
@@calinwin445 So what, you can't feel empathy for fiction characters? You must be sad
He had it coming when he betrayed DD and Big Boss.
@@user-en4eo1cc4t He felt betrayed yet again when he realized that venom wasn't big boss. Did he deserved punishment for his crimes? Yes. Was he wrong to support solid in order to take revenge on big boss? Nope.
Kaz,
He was named 'peace', yet almost never felt like one
i just want to give this guy a hug. Really :"/
Robin atkin downes's voice acting is absolutely outstanding!!!
Yeah but he sounds better in V
I forget that hes Medics (tf2) va as well
@@RussellAdlerCIA He sounds fantastic in both games! He’s just more emotional in V!
Poor Kaz....
I want to give him a hug.
Right.
In.
The
Feels.
I really like the backstories in MGS--especially The Boss and Big Boss--but, I don't know... Kaz's felt the most real. Things that totally could have happened. Definitely makes it well, y'know, depressing.
i feel you
He's always been the most relatable MGS character. Even more so after GZ.
Poor Kaz. He had a really poor life back in Japan. And then years later, he was killed by Liquid.
Spoilers! Yay! XD
Joel Persson Over ten year old game yay
drkinferno72 1 Spoilers are still spoilers
2 I was joking
"Claps and applauds you" Good for you man!
+Raihan Hakim98 It was actually Ocelot that killed him, it is implied in the ending of MGSV
Aw, Kaz. :( Man, I could listen to his voice all day.
I love Kaz regardless, but hearing him talking about how he's not going to die like that... when we all know what happens to him. :( It's heartbreaking. DAMNIT LIQUID, SERIOUSLY.
and then loses an arm, a leg, MAYBE his sight (idk until TPP comes out) and then dies? Shit this guy goes through a lot
+Hydra gaming "it's just really bright"
Then killed in 2005 and impersonated by Eli....little shit
+The Hhydra He did lose his eyes :S
Miller is a part of Snake's personalities. This is why he had a similar upbringing to Naomi and was impersonated by Eli, Solid Snake's other persona. Miller is to Big Boss as Solid Snake is to Liquid. it's the biggest foreshadowing of the series no one has yet to understand but me
@Sand Man it did
i had lot of respect for Kazuhira ... sadly he did some things... still master miller was one of the greats
What kinds of things?
Believe it or not, but this guy has the same voice as the Medic from War-Themed Hat Simulator.
I'M CRYING, GENUINELY CRYING, NOW I REMEMBER WHY IS HE MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER, HE'S THE HUMAN TRAGEDY MAN I'M SOBBING I'M IN TEARS POOR MAN HE NEEDS A HUG, LOTS OF HUGS 😭😭😭😭
Miller deserved better.
He ended up training Solid Snake (with 1 arm and leg) to kill Big Boss who was once his, probably bestfriend. Well, like Miller said War is just a business and it's good business and it also means it's not personal. It's sad that the bad guys won, Liquid ordered Ocelot to kill Miller
Well Ocelot *DID* say that one day they Wil be on different sides....
And then 1 of them will have to die
Ocelot would never betray *BIG BOSS* he was so obsessed with him that he even used nanomachines and phyco therapy to make him self believe he is Liquid, so he could fool the system
Ocelot wouldn't have a problem pulling the trigger to Miller
But in the end Miller won, Solid Snake managed to defeat every son of Big Boss and he himself became the strongest. In the end the one who saved the world multiple times was Snake the man he trained.
@@pixytorres7117 Also, it's a bit far fetched, a line thatvhas stuck to me from mgs 1 was Solid Snake saying, "Just because you're at war, doesn't mean you have to end a friendship."
I like to think he caught on or heard such words from a jaded Miller who had time to reflect on things after he was taken out of the game between Patriots and Outer Heaven. Basically, he hates what Big Boss has done, but he refuses to end their friendship, same thing Zero felt for Big Boss too. If given a chance, they either reconcile or try and look past old faults.
The biggest plot hole in this entire series, How could Ocelot be so obsessed with the guy who killed his mother??
@@erickvalencia2016 I have replayed MGS3 this year and there doesn't seem to be a mother-son relationship going on with them anyway. From what I remember, Ocelot was taken away by the Philosophers from his mother as soon as he was born. And then the two just ended up as the best (or worst?) spies in the world 😅 having to outdo each other.
Good Lord, after listening to this it makes me feel absolutely horrible for him in Phantom Pain. Kaz is a broken down shell of a man who will never return. And after the kick in the balls he got after learning the truth about Venom Snake, he still lusted for revenge even though he admitted it didn't bring him peace. Then to die in cold blood right before MGS. His only real accomplishment of pride was training Solid Snake.
I feel so sorry for Kaz... He had the perfect body for a solider, losing his arm and leg as a result for the torture, it's just brutal, he had his whole life ahead of him, and I think he had gone a little bit chubby( maybe lack of the ability for movements?) in TTP. Anyway, wanna give him a big hug.
Many people with sad childhood are killed, day by day, still, near us, Kaz is not exception. There is no peace on world. Great fragment, thanks for sharing!
Damn, that's sad. Even though he was named for peace, war and conflict was written into his DNA. Worse yet is that he never really found peace in his life, between watching MSF be destroyed, losing his arm, leg and his sight, Miller couldn't escape war and violence.
he played us like a damn fiddle!!!!!!
This is almost one of those Disney stories at first where a kid learns they're royalty or something.
But this doesn’t have a happy ending for him.
@@Gadget-Walkmen
Exactly
Well yeah but actually no lol
But I get where you coming from
This was actually a pretty common story following post-war Japan. Lots of American men made Japanese women into wives and then abandoned them and their Japanese children, because they had already married American women that were waiting on them. They also brought diseases like Syphilis, which eats your mind and body if it's not treated early enough. There's tons of romantic movies about this phenomena, but the truth was far uglier than that.
I love you Kaz
He played my feelings like a damn fiddle.
at least he did't die in a war :')
Well 50/50
To everyone with more knowledge of Japan did they end up changing that law about family registry.
i want to hug him till broke his spine 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
In the true ending, it dates his death the same year of the Shadow Moses Incident (MGS1), 2005
my poor baby...
Meanwhile Snake....
Snake: ZzzzzzzZzzzzzz... uhh I'm sorry..?
LMAO
this is 9 months late but Miller didnt betray him, he was assassinated by Liquid and Liquid assumed his identity. It explained at the end of Peace Walker and in the first game....I don't know what bullshit others were telling you but there wrong....
Supposedly his mother got syphilis when she was young. But that would've transmited it to him, wouldn't it?
Master Miller RIP.
@Iforgot276 Actually, in the official timeline, Big Boss goes back to FOXHOUND. (Late 80s, early 90s.) Since Snake joins the unit in the 90s and received training from Miller, it's probably safe to say it wasn't at MSF since Miller was known to train other various groups. That and during MG2, he calls Big Boss a monster. So Miller probably left Outer Heaven somewhere after PW and some time before the first Metal Gear.
Kaz wesker miller :)
completely global damn fiddle 🤣🤣🤣
not sure about that young miller
I wonder if there will be any inference to Liquid killing Kaz in MGSV - like for instance how he managed to learn to mimic Kaz so perfectly
Well considering Liquid is 12 in TPP probably not.
They could foreshadow it still
@lalluprasadindia because their ideals clashed, as BB wanted to throw the world into perpetual war, taking in war orphans only to feed them back into the battle field, while Miller wanted MSF to be a business. Either wait for it in the next game or don't worry about it.
Wow......... Now I actually feel bad..... I understand Miller even more now.... Fml
MGS games can't let you hate a character without sympathizing with him first.....
Well they always had these *morals games*
they should make a mgs set in the 80s
hoo boy you ain't gonna believe this one
and they sure did make MGS set in the 80s
Surprise!
there isn't much on this guys channel but i hope he's all good and knows about mgsv
Manly tears. ;_;
@Iforgot276 The point I was trying to make was that Snake wouldn't be part of/learn at Outer Heaven/MSF. As for the CQC, I don't think he explicitly stated that in MGS4. ... It's not really that strange, even if he does know it. CQC was just developed by Big Boss and The Boss, not strictly for them. So even if he did learn it from Big Boss, it's possible it was while Big Boss was in command of FOXHOUND just before the Outer Heaven Uprising in 1995.
@lalluprasadindia Well throughout PW he says that he wants to maintain a business. When BB becomes a warmonger in MG2 and wants to throw the world into perpetual war, going against the ideals that Miller was going for with MSF. Hey, if Zero and BB can go from good friends to bitter enemies the same can happen between these two friends. You know there's gonna be another Peace Walker-esque game, and they've got about 25 years between PW and MG2, either an answer will show or Kojima has forgotten.
so MSF could expand. For all of their sakes. He had good intentions.
After hearing this tape for the first time, I absolutely hated Big Boss.
Nire Why did you hate him?
@@sambridgers9543 why not hate it?
@@bigsoss1144 I don't see why NireF would hate Big Boss because of this tape. He didn't have anything to do with Kaz's upbringing.
@@sambridgers9543 I think he hates it because in this recording Kaz talks about such a personal issue and he does it with such confidence that it shows how much he appreciates and trusts Big Boss which makes Snake's betrayal so painful and that is very sad because it seems like Snake never cared about Kaz so Big Boss can go to hell
@@bigsoss1144 Kaz betrayed Big Boss so that's why Big Boss didn't cared about him. But still Kas got revenge and trained Snake who ended up killing Big Boss.
Since he's still alive, we've got to assume he got it treated if so :P
When Kaz was cool and not a dull and boring shadow.
It is called character development
sad story any more files coming soon
@lalluprasadindia Spoiler: Miller is also working with Zero.
but if you listen to the phone call, Miller sort of betrayed Snake, just wanted it in for business.
Liquid Snake threw him around then broke his neck. Noice!
@XxJames08xX
Liquid THE REAL LIQUID hates Big Boss for "raising" snake
@Iforgot276 Ah, yeah. Okay. I try to avoid talking to Otacon so I didn't see this. Thank you. XD
That answers that then. If they did make another entry or a remake, Snake would be training, yes. Just in FOXHOUND like I suggested as opposed to MSF/Outer Heaven like you originally stated. We were both technically right, just on different matters.
Still aren't considered Japanese if you're not born there or are mixed race.
he was born there
He's mixed though
Big boss can go to hell.....
Kazuhira Miller Didnt you comment that like 5 years ago ?? 😂😂
Peace Club
ummm.....kaz was part of the patriots...he sold out big boss and helped create liquid and solid snake. im not saying solid snake is a bad guy, but as big boss said, "the world would be better off wthout snakes"
fuck yeah b29's they rule
Feeeeels
Medic!
It's because you found out Kojima is god. You knew too much.
Kaz is Brad Pitt
so sensitive...
how did u view the briefing files???
the kind of cool thing was that Kaz kind of right and kind of wrong. In terms of war, he survived all of them. But by aligning himself with big boss, he ended up getting murdered by his clone...crazy
@XxJames08xX
Play MGS1.
Original PS1, you'll understand.
@MRPenkov1996 In MGS1 :)
@XxJames08xX
play mgs
Master Miller is one of the most Mysterious and Desired to know Character's in the MGS Series
They better do this right. I am a huge fan of MGS / miller hope they keep his voice from MGS 1 TS and Keep him cool like he is suppose to be - a Survival Instructor
Hope they don't gay up the characters because this is kinda gay. Mega Gay.
Why does he have blonde hair? Isn't black hair a dominant gene?
A recessive gene can be expressed with black haired parents
the womans title was just Boss naked snakes title was Big Boss because he was better than the Boss
dude’s life sucked
Kaz is a weeaboo
You know he actuall is PART Japanese, so technically not really a weeaboo.
wowo
Your manga is shit
Not even close.
Lanasaur what are you talking about?