Except they are even more insanely priced. Was trying to find a no thrills newish Odyssey or Sienna and the prices are even more insane than the SUVs on similar platforms.
I know y'all have reviewed the Sienna before, but you really undersold the hybrid nature of the van in this review. I regularly got 40 mpg on it, and the ability to ride in EV mode is also a great saver for little trips within a small radius. The MPG is simply incredible for the size of this vehicle.
i thought anything over 10-15 mph automatically goes back to gas; it's something like if you're cruising in your neighbourhood or parking garage the EV only may work.
@@MrCarpediem6 not true. The ev mode works until 25mpg. I can post a video demonstration if you want to see how it works. After 25mph if your foot is might in the pedal and there is enough battery life the van will stay in ev mode. I regularly can accelerate from 0-35mph in ev mode and I take my foot off the pedal early for regen to charge the battery.
The biggest con with these is you can't get them. In my area the dealers quote a year wait time and used ones are selling for thousands and thousands above new MSRP. Kinda crazy to me to spend $7000 over original MSRP for a used two year old car or to pay original MSRP for a car with 50k miles. Even with the great fuel economy the value proposition just isn't there at those inflated prices which is a shame because I think its such a compelling car. That is unless you can wait for a year or more.
In Toronto Canada we have a 3 year wait for them also the highlander hybrid and rav 4 hybrid. It's just brutal. We have to order the highlander hybrid and then lease an interim car. It sucks
…I ordered one about 2k above MSRP. Village Toyota, Homosassa Florida, see John “Beatle Tie” DeLoach. Tell em’ Stephen Fiore sent you please. He said it could be a 1 to 2 year wait, no exact time given. The 2k is a Dimmet package I couldn’t get out of
I got this vehicle and installed a 3” Journey lift kit plus Wildpeak all terrain tires. Looks great and can go *almost* anywhere I wanted to go. Went to Tahoe a week ago during the heavy snows and didn’t need to put in chains. I was able to negotiate the deeper snow even on inclines and declines. Love this car.
I got the 2023 Sienna XLE, and I was once someone who would never never buy a mini-van. I am now an awesome DAD, and I am thinking what took me so long to buy a mini-van. I love everything about. Now before bed, I just take the kids for drive to but them to sleep. I love the tech, convenience, and mpg
On a white board somewhere in Japan right now, designers are discussing adding a seaweed dispenser to the next gen Sienna. As usual a very useful and personal family review...right down to the specification of which fuel to use.
I really like this van, it seems like the best option to replace my aging 2000 Chevrolet Express. I also really like your style of reviews from the whole family perspective, just found your channel, Subscribed!
If Toyota made the sienna in a cargo version with the 1500 W inverter they would sell 250,000 a year in the United States! Yes there would be a waiting list for this van, Wait there already is a waiting list for this van without a cargo version. Yes that means that it would be a amazing van in the cargo version. Yes I have already owned this van 2021 XSE with the inverter package . Yes if you are easy with it you can easily get 40 miles per gallon. #ToyotaPleaseMakeASiennaCargoVersion.
I wholeheartedly agree! I suspect production constraints are behind Toyota's decision to leave the cargo van market at the mercy of the Detroit 3 and Mercedes.
And just like every other Toyota hybrid, you simply can't get one. Begs the question of why they even bother with full-electric vehicles. Hybrids should get tax credits too.
We bought a 2021 Sienna XLE and do not regret it at all. We went from a Town & Country and the Sienna is better in every way. BTW we got it in Green and it is the only car I have ever been complemented on the color (several times)
from what i understand some minivan fit 4x8 foot sheets of plywood or drywall inside - with the sienna sounds like i will have to strap it to the roof - would prefer to have both options but if i can attach it to the roof not a deal breaker
We’ve had our 2021 Sienna AWD platinum for a couple years now and it has been a great vehicle. My wife absolutely loves it, and when you have 3 kids, lots of trips to soccer practices, to the mall, school, etc., there is no substitute. The Tahoe moms in my neighborhood are constantly fighting fuel economy, lack of sliding doors and general unwieldiness. Downsides: in cold climates it takes a long time to actually blow hot air from the vents. Heated seats and steering wheel provide “Luke warmth” And not really heat. Real world mpg around town is about 31. Highway cruising is great, not too much NVH. Tech is crap, cameras are low resolution as is typical for Toyota. No wireless CarPlay. No USB c for CarPlay. Emotion factor: if people see you driving this they know you feel good about yourself and that you’re not trying to play in the suv rat race. That said, my fun cars are a 392 wrangler, manual Supra and f250 tremor 😂
Nice try. The interior dimensions of SUVs do not even come close to competing with the superior capacity in minivans including legroom in all three rows.
If you want quality interiors, pay the bills. Toyota and Japanese manufacturers may have a slightly different sense of values from the rest of the world. I think that the luxurious interior can be satisfied if leather, interior covered with soft pads, real metal dials, and decorative parts are used, but the vehicle price will be high accordingly. When ordinary people buy it, it's a burden, right? Also, are starting acceleration and top speed important factors in your life? I doubt it. You can build any number of fast cars at any time! 0-400m, 0-100k is easy if you want to do it. If you always drive like that, what about your license? Get picked up or go to jail.
Just tried to order this Woodlander at one of the largest Toyota car dealership in my state. There's a waiting list of 100 people. The dealership said they will get "1" from Japan. So whoever's on the list first will get first dibs. Doesn't make sense to make people think they can order one and get it.
Great review!! I really appreciate the two viewpoints, and your enthusiasm and energy. Very watchable. Also, you got so many different shots of the vehicle driving, and I know that takes a lot of work. It really shows on screen. Thank you. More please!
The headlights are bright. I have not had anyone flash their highbeams at me thinking I had my highbeams on (except when I did.) There is an adptive high beam control. I never use it, but it works when I have accidentally bumped it.
I just got one and when the lights are dimmed, people are always putting their brights on me. I have a platinum, so I'm not really sure if the headlights are different between models. I honestly don't think the headlights are adaptive.
The prices on the Transit Connects are utterly insane. Even used they appear to hold their price. Which is nuts. It’s a plastic box with 4 wheels. I’d totally have one of the price reflected what you were purchasing.
I love literally everything about this vehicle, and I would have ordered one instantly as soon as this new generation became available, but there was one massive deal breaker. The inability to remove or stow the second row is just not acceptable for my needs. I have talked to many others who are in the same situation. Crazy how one simple thing can alienate many buyers. I suspect Toyota will lose many sales because of this.
Try finding and buying a new one-they are very sought after and often with markups. Side curtain airbags for 2nd row and more padded 2nd row seats are why they are not removable. It’s not a truck, so this trade off adds up.
@@grisa12345 I know why the seats are not removable. I don't care about that. Comparing a mini-van to a truck is nonsensical. Additionally, there are no markups in Canada.
Same for us. We had a 2004 Sienna, and now a 2015 Odyssey. We have the 2nd row seats out all the time for various stuff; it's a dealbreaker for us too.
@contingencyibct3120 Because I also have a family and I need something that is multi-purpose, like the Sienna used to be. I thought that was pretty obvious.
I noticed quite a bit a few videos expressing extra focus on the number of cup holders in some of these vehicles, such as the Toyota sienna for year 2023, or the 2024 Toyota Grand highlander, etc. What I failed to see is why this is either attractive, or necessary. I do not want 13, 18, 100 cup holders. I don't consider that storage. I don't think this cup holders really matter. It's a beautiful looking vehicle anyway.
The issue I have heard is that the side airbags are integrated into the seats and unplugging that would cause issues in the safety systems. The airbags are in the seat bacause of how far the seats can slide. A regular curtain airbag would not be able to cover the entire area.
We have a 2024 woodland, very happy with it. It’s our 5th sienna, but the first woodland. Suspension is a little stiffer, which I like, plus it has a hitch (3500 lbs) so we can tow boat/camper/atv & trailer etc. For a 7 passenger vehicle it’s very versatile.
Does the Sienna have audible alert on blind spot monitor? I'm not talking about RCTA. I'm talking about when you try to change the lane and there's a car next to you, will it make audible alert?, not just visual alert on the side mirror. Thanks.
It is amazing how much reviewers care about things like soft touch dashboards. Personally I really only care about the areas I actually touch on a regular basis. I want comfortable armrests and don't want me knee smacking hard plastic. Beyond that I'm fine with everything being hard and durable plastic. I do think Toyota could do better with armrests. The armrest comfort is a real weakness in Toyotas I've owned. Honda, in my personal experience, does a better job of padding the areas you will come in contract with.
Hi Micah, thank you for the great review. I have two questions. At 10:49 the mpg reading was only 26.8. Any guesses on why that's so low compared to the estimate of 35/36? And, of all the current minivans on the market which one do you like best? Specifically I'm wondering about the Pacifica hybrid vs. the Sienna.
Great question. The reason we don't use our experience to demonstrate real world fuel economy is because our use case throws off the numbers in a hugely negative way. Simply driving home involves a mountain climb in excess of 6,000 feet. Then shooting driving footage involves a lot of full-throttle acceleration. Quick gist, we burn a ton of fuel reviewing cars that most buyers won't.
If this has the ground clearance as a Subaru… this would be epic. Load up a ton of gear, camp in the van or whatever and just have a blast w a minivan. But still great review and vehicle
NEVER PAY OVER MSRP, I DEMAND AT LEAST A 1500 TO 2,000 DISCOUNT OR I Walk Way, hell with them.!....i do not ever kEEp a car once the mfg warranty expires cause aLL BRANDS FALL APART.after 4 yrs...if miles do not destroy them time and HEAT will...THE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THIS SIENNA IS NO 6 CYL, 4 DOES NOT CUT IT!
Hi do you still have the sienna? We just signed for one, a woodland, and expecting delivery in two months. Could you please help me confirm something? Does it have the premium 3 bar LED stripe taillights? Could you share a picture or video of the taillights on at night and the brake lights. Thanks!!
Here's to you Mom's and Dad's you need to get past the psychological thing of it Being a Minivan!!! A Minivan is all about being practical. You get into a parking lot at Walmart the doors don't hit other cars doors they slide open. A Toyota is way2go especially when you can get all wheel drive for MN Winters.
That rear hitch really hangs down low. I'd expect that from an aftermarket affair, but feel like if it's a factory or even specific model dealer installed option that it should be a bit better integrated. I can see that crunching even some low profile parking stops or curbs.
@@jefferychambrovichjr6681 true, but if it were just an inch or two higher may not bottom out at all. Still though suppose just having a hitch on this type of minivan would be considered a win.
The factory hitch is the smaller size 1.25” and is almost low-profile. I added an aftermarket 2” hitch (Kurt brand) and it’s reeeealy low. Stick with the 1.25” if you can get away with it for your usage needs.
Yes, my kids eat 2-3 packs of them, just not the costco size seaweed. Minivans are truly remarkable. I wish Odyssey comes in Hybrid and AWD as well so we can show and compare. Also not sure where we can get Sienna at MSRP in tri state NY area. Everything is marked up $5k or more.
How did you even get one of these?!? I’ve gone to order one of these, really any model of Sienna, from just about every dealer there’s a 6-8 month waiting list if, IF, you want it as MSRP.
The second row of the sienna may be harder to move, but that sacrifice is worth it to have the most comfortable second row in a van and most other large vehicles.
We have a 2020 Honda Odyssey and we are considering to get a 2023 Toyota Sienna after renting one. The gas mileage was fantastic and we felt it was more spacious than the honda. We also like how it doesnt feel like a large vehicle and it has a tight turning radius. The downside though is the noise when you push the engine too hard because its a 4 cylinder w/ a CVT.
@@damilolaakanni they are almost the same, I mean they dont shift like a conventional automatic transmission but I must say it drives better than a normal CVT which has the rubber band effect.
That’s small head ups unit hurt my eyes and I could barely see clearly. There no reason why my backup camera from Amazon that I bought 5 years ago for my 2013 Camry should look better than a 40k+ vehicle in 2023 when competitors are offering Mercedes’ like crisp hd displays units… That droning sound from the motor is annoying as fudge and test drive was only 10 mins lol. I couldn’t imagine driving 2-3 hrs with that droning should.. Interior was super cheap and dated vs competitor… Hard plastics everywhere..
Just like electric vehicles are finally starting to look appealing, minivans got a lot of work ahead of them...maybe in the next 10yrs we would look at say, wait ...is that a minivan!
This is what people should be buying instead of SUVs or trucks just to get around town!
Except they are even more insanely priced. Was trying to find a no thrills newish Odyssey or Sienna and the prices are even more insane than the SUVs on similar platforms.
Minivans just don’t have the look that people like (the suv/crossover look).
I prefer this van but damn, 60k + where I live for this trim. And it's a rare find because of the chip shortage
Totally agree. For what SUV go for it makes no sense.
Except they are impossible to find!
I know y'all have reviewed the Sienna before, but you really undersold the hybrid nature of the van in this review. I regularly got 40 mpg on it, and the ability to ride in EV mode is also a great saver for little trips within a small radius. The MPG is simply incredible for the size of this vehicle.
i thought anything over 10-15 mph automatically goes back to gas; it's something like if you're cruising in your neighbourhood or parking garage the EV only may work.
@@MrCarpediem6 not true. The ev mode works until 25mpg. I can post a video demonstration if you want to see how it works. After 25mph if your foot is might in the pedal and there is enough battery life the van will stay in ev mode. I regularly can accelerate from 0-35mph in ev mode and I take my foot off the pedal early for regen to charge the battery.
@TheMrDudiness that depends on driving habit. Overall I'm always above 36 and when I try I'm above 40
@@occckid123 yes, if you have a chance would like to see how it works
@@MrCarpediem6 I'll do it next week and post it for you :)
I love this review and your daughter additions made it more wholesome ❤❤
The biggest con with these is you can't get them. In my area the dealers quote a year wait time and used ones are selling for thousands and thousands above new MSRP. Kinda crazy to me to spend $7000 over original MSRP for a used two year old car or to pay original MSRP for a car with 50k miles. Even with the great fuel economy the value proposition just isn't there at those inflated prices which is a shame because I think its such a compelling car. That is unless you can wait for a year or more.
In Toronto Canada we have a 3 year wait for them also the highlander hybrid and rav 4 hybrid. It's just brutal. We have to order the highlander hybrid and then lease an interim car. It sucks
👆👆ᴛʜᴀɴᴋꜱ ꜰᴏʀ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴀɴ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠᴇ ꜱᴜʙꜱᴄʀɪʙᴇʀ❣ɪ ɢᴏᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜ🎉ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ
…I ordered one about 2k above MSRP. Village Toyota, Homosassa Florida, see John “Beatle Tie” DeLoach. Tell em’ Stephen Fiore sent you please. He said it could be a 1 to 2 year wait, no exact time given. The 2k is a Dimmet package I couldn’t get out of
I’m feeling your pain going through this now. Just a bunch of nonsense
I got this vehicle and installed a 3” Journey lift kit plus Wildpeak all terrain tires. Looks great and can go *almost* anywhere I wanted to go. Went to Tahoe a week ago during the heavy snows and didn’t need to put in chains. I was able to negotiate the deeper snow even on inclines and declines. Love this car.
Do you have a TH-cam channel showing your vehicle?
what tire size did you run?
Did you put bigger tires on?
How much did it cost you to raise it?
@@luperamos7307 Hi! The lift kit itself was $2500. In total it was about $5000 with tires and rims.
I got the 2023 Sienna XLE, and I was once someone who would never never buy a mini-van. I am now an awesome DAD, and I am thinking what took me so long to buy a mini-van. I love everything about. Now before bed, I just take the kids for drive to but them to sleep. I love the tech, convenience, and mpg
Wise man. 👍🏽
On a white board somewhere in Japan right now, designers are discussing adding a seaweed dispenser to the next gen Sienna. As usual a very useful and personal family review...right down to the specification of which fuel to use.
I really like this van, it seems like the best option to replace my aging 2000 Chevrolet Express. I also really like your style of reviews from the whole family perspective, just found your channel, Subscribed!
If Toyota made the sienna in a cargo version with the 1500 W inverter they would sell 250,000 a year in the United States! Yes there would be a waiting list for this van, Wait there already is a waiting list for this van without a cargo version. Yes that means that it would be a amazing van in the cargo version. Yes I have already owned this van 2021 XSE with the inverter package . Yes if you are easy with it you can easily get 40 miles per gallon. #ToyotaPleaseMakeASiennaCargoVersion.
I wholeheartedly agree! I suspect production constraints are behind Toyota's decision to leave the cargo van market at the mercy of the Detroit 3 and Mercedes.
And just like every other Toyota hybrid, you simply can't get one. Begs the question of why they even bother with full-electric vehicles.
Hybrids should get tax credits too.
All the sudden I realized I can't afford minivan anymore.
Even though I'd rather drive the C300, I drove this van couple of weeks ago and rides so nice and getting close to 40 mpg isn't bad either.
I own a 22 limited AWD and sometimes I would rather take the van out then my 21 Ram Laramie 1500. It rides so nice and love the gas mileage.
22 silverado 2.7 and same like you!!! Somedays, juat is waiting to ride this incredible van. Unbelievable space and comfort
We bought a 2021 Sienna XLE and do not regret it at all. We went from a Town & Country and the Sienna is better in every way. BTW we got it in Green and it is the only car I have ever been complemented on the color (several times)
They gave this thing major Lexus vibes on the exterior. 👍👍
Id get the sienna if the second row seats were removable. too bad they're not. They blew it on that feature.
👆👆ᴛʜᴀɴᴋꜱ ꜰᴏʀ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴀɴ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠᴇ ꜱᴜʙꜱᴄʀɪʙᴇʀ❣ɪ ɢᴏᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜ🎉ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ
Yep. Dealbreaker for me.
A big negative for me is not being able to remove the 2nd row seats. Otherwise good review. I really like the lifted feature.
from what i understand some minivan fit 4x8 foot sheets of plywood or drywall inside - with the sienna sounds like i will have to strap it to the roof - would prefer to have both options but if i can attach it to the roof not a deal breaker
Lovely family. Pleasure to watch. Keep up the good work.
We’ve had our 2021 Sienna AWD platinum for a couple years now and it has been a great vehicle. My wife absolutely loves it, and when you have 3 kids, lots of trips to soccer practices, to the mall, school, etc., there is no substitute. The Tahoe moms in my neighborhood are constantly fighting fuel economy, lack of sliding doors and general unwieldiness. Downsides: in cold climates it takes a long time to actually blow hot air from the vents. Heated seats and steering wheel provide “Luke warmth”
And not really heat. Real world mpg around town is about 31. Highway cruising is great, not too much NVH. Tech is crap, cameras are low resolution as is typical for Toyota. No wireless CarPlay. No USB c for CarPlay. Emotion factor: if people see you driving this they know you feel good about yourself and that you’re not trying to play in the suv rat race. That said, my fun cars are a 392 wrangler, manual Supra and f250 tremor 😂
Hard to find one that Toyota dealers sell without an $8000 markup or 2-year (indefinite) wait time.
I wish there was a minivan with 8”+ of ground clearance. Nice review!
👆👆ᴛʜᴀɴᴋꜱ ꜰᴏʀ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴀɴ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠᴇ ꜱᴜʙꜱᴄʀɪʙᴇʀ❣ɪ ɢᴏᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜ🎉ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ
They do have it. It's called SUV
Nice try. The interior dimensions of SUVs do not even come close to competing with the superior capacity in minivans including legroom in all three rows.
You can get a lift kit for the Sienna
Have you ever decided to lift the van up? It would basically just be a little more than an inch. Kind of curious how much that would cost.
I understand the 'Woodlands' got a fraction of an inch of extra tire sidewall to make it even more rational. 😁
👆👆ᴛʜᴀɴᴋꜱ ꜰᴏʀ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴀɴ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠᴇ ꜱᴜʙꜱᴄʀɪʙᴇʀ❣ɪ ɢᴏᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜ🎉ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ
I ordered this “new” sienna back in 2021 and still waiting in 2023! It’s less attractive in 2023, I may switch to cx90 or the new pilot instead.
Wow. It sounds like all the comments about the Sienna's lack of availability are 100% true. That's wild.
Please add Cabin Noise number in up coming reviews , please .
They really need a TRD Pro version
Or a Gazoo Racing version. Kids everywhere would laugh at a car’s that’s named Gazoo.
TRD off road or TRD sport?
Ha. Imagine. Makes sure it is covered in big shouty decals.
Excellent review, and seaweed is underrated tbh!
👆👆ᴛʜᴀɴᴋꜱ ꜰᴏʀ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴀɴ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠᴇ ꜱᴜʙꜱᴄʀɪʙᴇʀ❣ɪ ɢᴏᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜ🎉ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ
No 8 seat configuration or remote start in xle. Also no driver memory seats. Carnival and odessey offer these in mid trim.
I’ve no shame in getting a minivan. Heck if I had a family of my own, I would get a sienna because of its hybrid and functionality
If you want quality interiors, pay the bills.
Toyota and Japanese manufacturers may have a slightly different sense of values from the rest of the world. I think that the luxurious interior can be satisfied if leather, interior covered with soft pads, real metal dials, and decorative parts are used, but the vehicle price will be high accordingly. When ordinary people buy it, it's a burden, right? Also, are starting acceleration and top speed important factors in your life? I doubt it. You can build any number of fast cars at any time!
0-400m, 0-100k is easy if you want to do it. If you always drive like that, what about your license? Get picked up or go to jail.
👆👆ᴛʜᴀɴᴋꜱ ꜰᴏʀ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴀɴ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠᴇ ꜱᴜʙꜱᴄʀɪʙᴇʀ❣ɪ ɢᴏᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜ🎉ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ
Wonder if Toyota/Lexus will ever bring the LM300H here.
👆👆ᴛʜᴀɴᴋꜱ ꜰᴏʀ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴀɴ ᴀᴄᴛɪᴠᴇ ꜱᴜʙꜱᴄʀɪʙᴇʀ❣ɪ ɢᴏᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜ🎉ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ ꜰᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ
Just tried to order this Woodlander at one of the largest Toyota car dealership in my state. There's a waiting list of 100 people. The dealership said they will get "1" from Japan. So whoever's on the list first will get first dibs. Doesn't make sense to make people think they can order one and get it.
Great review!! I really appreciate the two viewpoints, and your enthusiasm and energy. Very watchable. Also, you got so many different shots of the vehicle driving, and I know that takes a lot of work. It really shows on screen. Thank you. More please!
can you start a new segment talking about the headlights at night, if they are bright enough, adaptive headlights, etc??
The headlights are bright. I have not had anyone flash their highbeams at me thinking I had my highbeams on (except when I did.) There is an adptive high beam control. I never use it, but it works when I have accidentally bumped it.
I just got one and when the lights are dimmed, people are always putting their brights on me. I have a platinum, so I'm not really sure if the headlights are different between models. I honestly don't think the headlights are adaptive.
I'd take one of these as a work vehicle I think Ford Transit connects are to much money for what you get, pay the 7000 more for base vs base
The prices on the Transit Connects are utterly insane. Even used they appear to hold their price. Which is nuts. It’s a plastic box with 4 wheels. I’d totally have one of the price reflected what you were purchasing.
I love literally everything about this vehicle, and I would have ordered one instantly as soon as this new generation became available, but there was one massive deal breaker. The inability to remove or stow the second row is just not acceptable for my needs. I have talked to many others who are in the same situation. Crazy how one simple thing can alienate many buyers. I suspect Toyota will lose many sales because of this.
Try finding and buying a new one-they are very sought after and often with markups. Side curtain airbags for 2nd row and more padded 2nd row seats are why they are not removable. It’s not a truck, so this trade off adds up.
@@grisa12345 I know why the seats are not removable. I don't care about that. Comparing a mini-van to a truck is nonsensical. Additionally, there are no markups in Canada.
@@MrBobbyBrown2006 you are not the target market.
Same for us. We had a 2004 Sienna, and now a 2015 Odyssey. We have the 2nd row seats out all the time for various stuff; it's a dealbreaker for us too.
@contingencyibct3120 Because I also have a family and I need something that is multi-purpose, like the Sienna used to be. I thought that was pretty obvious.
Sienna is the best model Toyota makes. I’m a truck and muscle car guy-but the Sienna isn’t your parents’ minivan. Great video Micah-all the best!
HIlarious Video ! Good Job.
I noticed quite a bit a few videos expressing extra focus on the number of cup holders in some of these vehicles, such as the Toyota sienna for year 2023, or the 2024 Toyota Grand highlander, etc. What I failed to see is why this is either attractive, or necessary. I do not want 13, 18, 100 cup holders. I don't consider that storage. I don't think this cup holders really matter. It's a beautiful looking vehicle anyway.
Cute and informative. Thankyou.
I heard the styling was actually inspired by Japanese bullet trains.
Child booster vs child car seat is Not the same.
the family reviews always make my day. please keep doing what you're doing :)
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I love minivans. Toyota can design hydrogen fuel cells but not a latch to remove the middle captain chairs :( I'll have to try seaweed snacks. :)
The issue I have heard is that the side airbags are integrated into the seats and unplugging that would cause issues in the safety systems. The airbags are in the seat bacause of how far the seats can slide. A regular curtain airbag would not be able to cover the entire area.
You should put the model year of the the Sienna you are reviewing in this video in the title.
We have a 2024 woodland, very happy with it. It’s our 5th sienna, but the first woodland. Suspension is a little stiffer, which I like, plus it has a hitch (3500 lbs) so we can tow boat/camper/atv & trailer etc. For a 7 passenger vehicle it’s very versatile.
Does the Sienna have audible alert on blind spot monitor? I'm not talking about RCTA. I'm talking about when you try to change the lane and there's a car next to you, will it make audible alert?, not just visual alert on the side mirror. Thanks.
Sold our Tesla and bought this van. Loved it so much ❤
Any regrets? Miss the Tesla?
I’ll never understand why people have such a stigma for minivans. Who cares what other people think of your ride?
Sliding doors are a must! Team minivan!
I test drove the car, the engine sound is horrendous!
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I’ve got an older 2013 sienna and it rocks 245 000kms and all we do is oil changes , still rides like the day we bought it,,,this is cool channel
Nice review! Did you say .6" higher than regular Sienna?
It just reminds me how little soft touch matters in vehicles. It is so over stated many times how important this is in areas you hardly touch.
Yeah for a vehicle like this, I think owners want durable surfaces that are easy to clean above all else.
I agree they don’t really matter but in a 40k+ vehicle I’d expect leather/soft touch and soft armrests.
It is amazing how much reviewers care about things like soft touch dashboards. Personally I really only care about the areas I actually touch on a regular basis. I want comfortable armrests and don't want me knee smacking hard plastic. Beyond that I'm fine with everything being hard and durable plastic. I do think Toyota could do better with armrests. The armrest comfort is a real weakness in Toyotas I've owned. Honda, in my personal experience, does a better job of padding the areas you will come in contract with.
@@RRLV434 $40k for this size of vehicle is low end. Not high.
I disagree. The hard crappy plastics are what would keep me from buying most toyota products. We deserve better at this price.
Hi Micah, thank you for the great review. I have two questions. At 10:49 the mpg reading was only 26.8. Any guesses on why that's so low compared to the estimate of 35/36? And, of all the current minivans on the market which one do you like best? Specifically I'm wondering about the Pacifica hybrid vs. the Sienna.
Great question. The reason we don't use our experience to demonstrate real world fuel economy is because our use case throws off the numbers in a hugely negative way. Simply driving home involves a mountain climb in excess of 6,000 feet. Then shooting driving footage involves a lot of full-throttle acceleration. Quick gist, we burn a ton of fuel reviewing cars that most buyers won't.
If this has the ground clearance as a Subaru… this would be epic. Load up a ton of gear, camp in the van or whatever and just have a blast w a minivan. But still great review and vehicle
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Couldn't this trim have cladding around the wheel arches and bottom sides or something? I hear "Woodland", but I see an ordinary-looking trim Sienna.
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I think a Chevy Astro van is literally a death trap. Even if you can't afford a different vehicle, you should trade up for one.
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Oh my gwaaaad her voice
I adore the new Sienna, but my wife refuses to be caught dead in a minivan. Women.
I’m a woman, and would love to have this minivan. Your wife doesn’t speak for all of us.
Why are the headlights constantly blinking
That’s the camera. Does not do that in real life
I have one and I have no emotional factor to it
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I want a Sienna but I dont know why in México aré few Versions
Dude so happy for you starting your own channel! I always wait for your reviews on KBB!
I appreciate that!
NEVER PAY OVER MSRP, I DEMAND AT LEAST A 1500 TO 2,000 DISCOUNT OR I Walk Way, hell with them.!....i do not ever kEEp a car once the mfg warranty expires cause aLL BRANDS FALL APART.after 4 yrs...if miles do not destroy them time and HEAT will...THE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THIS SIENNA IS NO 6 CYL, 4 DOES NOT CUT IT!
Hi do you still have the sienna? We just signed for one, a woodland, and expecting delivery in two months. Could you please help me confirm something? Does it have the premium 3 bar LED stripe taillights? Could you share a picture or video of the taillights on at night and the brake lights. Thanks!!
Here's to you Mom's and Dad's you need to get past the psychological thing of it Being a Minivan!!!
A Minivan is all about being practical. You get into a parking lot at Walmart the doors don't hit other cars doors they slide open.
A Toyota is way2go especially when you can get all wheel drive for MN Winters.
Where can you buy one? Dealers are telling me not available.
always enjoy watching the family and micah with his energy.....I love this channel
Very nice mini Van, I just don’t see myself getting one.
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My kids literally suck on the seaweed. I don't know why anyone would do that. lol! Loved the video. Great job!
listen toyota remember the 2015 mazda 5 with sliding doors? maybe work some magic on something like that
Handgrip reminds me of a Klingon Batl'eth
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5 year wait-list, is what I've heard on ordering a Sienna. WTF Toyota!?!?! I'm not a minivan person though.
easy 10k markup "dealer market adjustement"
That rear hitch really hangs down low. I'd expect that from an aftermarket affair, but feel like if it's a factory or even specific model dealer installed option that it should be a bit better integrated. I can see that crunching even some low profile parking stops or curbs.
I added one and yes I’ve bottomed out but would rather bottom it out then the bumper
@@jefferychambrovichjr6681 true, but if it were just an inch or two higher may not bottom out at all. Still though suppose just having a hitch on this type of minivan would be considered a win.
The factory hitch is the smaller size 1.25” and is almost low-profile. I added an aftermarket 2” hitch (Kurt brand) and it’s reeeealy low. Stick with the 1.25” if you can get away with it for your usage needs.
Yes, my kids eat 2-3 packs of them, just not the costco size seaweed. Minivans are truly remarkable. I wish Odyssey comes in Hybrid and AWD as well so we can show and compare. Also not sure where we can get Sienna at MSRP in tri state NY area. Everything is marked up $5k or more.
Hey y'all!! Did I miss the 100k white van review??! 😁 Always love your content and your family! Cheers from Houston!!
How did you even get one of these?!? I’ve gone to order one of these, really any model of Sienna, from just about every dealer there’s a 6-8 month waiting list if, IF, you want it as MSRP.
This one was loaned to us from Toyota's press fleet.
Does anyone make an all electric minivan? Seems like it’s the one type of vehicle that I haven’t heard of a BEV version.
Chrysler makes a plug-in hybrid (I think 30 or so miles on ev range)
VW ID Buzz should be coming out this year if i remember right.
@@RRLV434 yes, lots of hybrids. But I was think more about pure electric.
@@ALMX5DP good one, I’d forgotten about the buzz
Yes my son eats full packs of seaweed 😂
Shopping for a new van and stumbled across your channel. Great content!
My 2 year old loves seaweed packs as a snack. I try to go for the least amount of sodium or avocado oil.
The second row of the sienna may be harder to move, but that sacrifice is worth it to have the most comfortable second row in a van and most other large vehicles.
Does it count if you were the kid (now the adult) who eats whole packs of seaweed as a snack? That stuff hits with the munchies 😂.
XLE -AWD or FrontWD?
My nephew definitely ate whole packs of seaweed when he was a toddler
Wish someone would bring back the first row bench seat.
It’s the Kelly blue book guy!!!
I’m a sad clown
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We have a 2020 Honda Odyssey and we are considering to get a 2023 Toyota Sienna after renting one. The gas mileage was fantastic and we felt it was more spacious than the honda. We also like how it doesnt feel like a large vehicle and it has a tight turning radius. The downside though is the noise when you push the engine too hard because its a 4 cylinder w/ a CVT.
The video mentioned that the turning radius in the odyssey is tighter/better than the Sienna. I have yet though to drive the new Sienna myself
@@levimagnusson5880 that is just how I felt driving it, honestly I only drove it twice and it really feels light than the odyssey.
*eCVT, not CVT. They're not the same at all.
@@damilolaakanni they are almost the same, I mean they dont shift like a conventional automatic transmission but I must say it drives better than a normal CVT which has the rubber band effect.
@@dkpt1997 Only in the way they keep the revs up. An ecvt is not a cvt at all.
Good to see you out on your own. Having the family with you is a great idea.
wow 50k for a sea of hard disgusting cheap plastic. Way to go Toyota.
Attractive family Micah. Vans are so cool for active, athletic people.
شكرا لكم للتفطيه الرائعه انتم عائله جميله ❤❤❤
That’s small head ups unit hurt my eyes and I could barely see clearly. There no reason why my backup camera from Amazon that I bought 5 years ago for my 2013 Camry should look better than a 40k+ vehicle in 2023 when competitors are offering Mercedes’ like crisp hd displays units…
That droning sound from the motor is annoying as fudge and test drive was only 10 mins lol. I couldn’t imagine driving 2-3 hrs with that droning should..
Interior was super cheap and dated vs competitor… Hard plastics everywhere..
Great review with your adorable family.
I don't have kids so I eat the packs myself. 😜
Wanna look cool in your minivan? Good luck! Funny! And, very true:)!!!
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Nice information and great back and forth input.
Why does Toyota have a cheap interior??? Ugh. Come on, Honda and Mazda has way better interior
Yes they eat seaweed
Just like electric vehicles are finally starting to look appealing, minivans got a lot of work ahead of them...maybe in the next 10yrs we would look at say, wait ...is that a minivan!
Look at the Kia carnival! It is a major improvement for minivans!
There’s the VW ID Bus, not sure you can call it a minivan, but probably going to be a competitor