I still love this movie. It just has such a place in my heart. Went to see it in theaters and was absolutely mesmerized by the visuals in the dialogue.
The sheep thing on the White House lawn was historically accurate and the best thing about the movie. It was like it came from a completely different version of the screenplay.
I have a real soft spot for this movie because I watched it a lot as a kid. As an adult I am aware that it is not that great but it is pretty much the best mainstream piece of steampunk and/or weird west media we have. Yes, I consider it better than the Johnah Hex movie.
Same here. I loved it when I was a kid and now I can see its flaws, but still enjoy the ride Srsly, the movie is funny and have some nice effects. I loved that wild west steampunk aura, I played a lot of Wild Guns, and this movie was the first of that kind that I've seen back then So, yeah. We sin, we laugh, but I will defend this movie from haters just like I defend Starship Troopers, Bright and even Venom. Not all sinner is hopeless XD
Honestly the only reason to watch Jonah Hex is for the villains. Michael Fassbender and John Malkovich were gods in that movie. I hated them both so much yet they were still so charismatic I would have a drink with them. Especially Fassbender! They were likeable in the friendly banter they had between each other.
my friend and his gf set me up on a blind double date with one of their friends 10 years ago and when i was asking her about herself she said she was into steampunk. i asked her what it was and after she explained i was like "oh like wild wild west" and meant it genuinely interested. she wasn't impressed. We didn't go out again lol
As someone who watched Prometheus in the theatre and immediately hated how the protagonist didnt run to the left or right to dodge the gigantic rolling donut, i love how in cinemasins, phrases like "Promethean Path" and "School of Promethean-Running-Away" have become a term that is expected to be understood.
I remembered being terrified by that saw blade when I first watched this. I was really little, but my fear wasn't that it was a saw blade that kills you; it was that it was apparently sentient and unable to be stopped until it did so.
I was hugely disappointed by this movie. It had so much going for it -- good source material, a great cast, a talented director, the opportunity for a lot of cool steampunk gadgets, and the scenic splendor of traditional westerns. And it squandered all of it!
@@SparkY0 Who was talking about Westworld? I was talking about the 1965 show The Wild Wild West that this movie was based on. But since you brought it up, the current Westworld show is a remake of the film that came out three years prior to Logan's Run, and had a sequel and a short lived TV show back in the day too.
The opening credits are probably one of the best things about this film, a nice homage to the old TV credits sequence with a modernization to them. Certainly nothing to sin.
“Fun Facts” Wild Wild West dominated the 1999 Golden Raspberry Awards with a grand total of 5 wins out of 9. It won: Worst Picture, Worst Director (Barry Sonnenfeld), Worst Screenplay (7 people wrote this), Worst Screen Couple (Will Smith and Kevin Kline) and Worst Original Song (Wild Wild West by Will Smith, Dru Hill, Stevie Wonder and Kool Moe Dee) It lost • Worst Actor for Kevin Kline Lost against Adam Sandler for Big Daddy • Worst Supporting Actor for Kenneth Branagh Lost against Ahmed Best as the voice of Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace • Worst Supporting Actress x2 for Salma Hayek and Kevin Kline as a prostitute Both lost against Denise Richards for 007: The World is Not Enough And another thing, Robert Conrad (star of the original tv show) accepted the awards in person to express his utter disgust with the movie
wait Kenneth Branagh was actually in this movie? Damn from doing so many Shakespeare adaptations to this? Embarrassing tbh. Also it totally deserved to "win" worst picture 😂😂
Also this movie made a shit ton of cash but with a catch… the South Park movie came out at the same time and it was reported people would buy tickets for WWW and then go see the South Park movie
19:00 You actually can break magnetism of "soft" magnets by simply hitting them. So assuming the neck collars are made with some kind of iron based magnet, yes running into a wall really hard could save their lives. Conversely, hitting a rare earth magnet will not break it's magnetism, but as they are very fragile it could just break them... so running into a wall very hard will again help.
It would have made much more sense if they heated the magnet somehow. I'm pretty sure every magnet will lose its magnetic ability if they're heated up.
I was certain there would be an After-Sin scene with: Loveless getting his wheelchair mechanical spider legs working and then a "Lt. Dan, you got your legs!" from Forrest Gump playing... But unfortunately not hahaha
"Because sometimes comedy doesn't work, and sometimes when it doesn't work you look like an asshole." CinemaSin's pep talk to hiself before recording somehow makes it into the script. _[Ding!]_
Funny, i was watching this movie the other week and kept having 'cinema sins' thoughts throughout the first 20 minutes so much that i went to youtube to watch the actual cinemasins breakdown only to find THERE WASNT ONE!!! NOW THERE IS!!!! Time to see how much of what I was thinking made the cutting room floor!
@@peteh4355 I find myself doing it at times too, but I can still enjoy the movies for the art that they are, and I only tend to do it on subsequent watches and not my intial watch.
@@peteh4355 have you seen this movie before? I have. I used to watch it all the time as a kid when it came out (Salma!!) And now that I know of cinema sins, I can't help but think of everything wrong with bad movies upon rewatching them. You should learn to mind your own business and not worry about things that don't concern you.
I remember Kevin Smith's Documentary when he was tasked by Barry Sonnenfield to write the script for Superman Lives. He wanted there to be a giant spider in the film and Kevin Smith thought it was a dumb idea. Then Smith remember going to see Wild Wild West and was just shocked to see a giant spider in the film.
@CinemaSins Um, guys? This movie was an Action Adventure COMEDY... The jokes were as intentional as they were plentiful. I'm sinning you 200 sins for failing to realize and account for this.
For me I liked the RCA dog joke. It was a thing until the 80’s. I also like the frizzy hair joke, because it shows spying isn’t just about maps and secret recordings. It’s about the mundane conversations and context clues.
He also turned down Tarantino for the Django roll in Django Unchained. He said the roll was too small but I'm pretty sure he was scared to work with actors who leave him in the dust talent wise.
I bet the VHS of this is still in my parents house. Good times back when silly movies could look good and not be just absolutely brain dead like Fast & Furious and such.
as a kid, I loved watching old movies because the credits rolled in the beginning, and usually did so in a way to captivate the audience. I hate that they roll at the end of flicks now, and people just get up to leave. all those set designers, costumers, everyone, deserves to be seen!
To be fair, there are a lot more people who work on movies now than they did 60 years ago. Have you actually sat through an end credits? They're jam packed with hundreds of names and can take as long as 5 to 10 minutes to pass in some cases. It's no wonder they aren't at the beginning anymore.
@@captaincaptain2128 I always sit through until the end! and yes, as production increased, I did notice you'd have the main credits and then a faster reel. personally, if audiences don't like it and can't appreciate all that goes into putting the film on the big screen, they shouldn't go to the theater.
@@TeenDream888 what's so special about the people who make movies? Do you read the names of the thousands of people who worked on you dinner before you eat it? I suspect not. Or does it only count when you've left your home for the experience, maybe you only go to restaurants that spell out all the farmers, drivers, butchers, bakers, and veterinarians in your alphabetti spaghetti?
@@Milamberinx what's so special about people making movies, is that I appreciate everything that goes into a film and the fact that sitting myself down for two or three hours in an air conditioned movie theater, to enjoy a production that was years in the making and takes me away from life for a bit, is kind of a big deal. I guess if you live somewhere less remote it's common to just lose that, or not care about the impact of where you're eating or purchasing items.
So you see and remember everybody's name in all the credits you see? Because otherwise it is pointless to sit through them if you're not going to pay attention to them... The end credits are not for you, but for the production companies to see "which person worked on what" and scout out the best ones...
13:10 it was based on a 1898 painting called "His Master's Voice", which became the logo for the UK based music retail store HMV in the 1900s, before RCA
He gave out how many sins for the part with the severed head and somehow missed to point out the obvious flaw? That that just couldn't have been the last thing that man saw, when you take into account the pre-opening scene. After this moment, he was still running through the forest for several minutes.
@@AdmiralBlackstar News flash: The movie was based on a TV show from the 1960s (the "original"). Are you taking offense on behalf of people who didn't ask for your "help?" Fine, I'll fix it: Loveless was a midget. Better? 🤣
I loved this movie as a kid and still love it now!! I loved it even more when I realized Loveless is the same guy that played Lockhart in Harry Potter!
I watched this movie a ton as a kid and was surprised when ppl said it bad when I got older. But yeah it’s pretty 😭 I still got love for it tho. BUT WHEW is it a LOT after years of not seeing it.
I love that when the movie was being made the writers/director were like "Well we couldn't possibly have Doctor Loveless be a man with dwarfism like he was in the old TV show, that would be offensive. Instead we'll make him disabled, that totally won't offend anyone."
Having the main villain with dwarfism would also significantly have limited the choices of well-known actors (to basically Vernon Troyer at the time). I don’t think it was simply out of fear of offending anyone, as the rest of the film seems to not care in the slightest.
I guess none of the few prominent actors with dwarfism was available to play Loveless-so the movie invented a plausible substitute condition, which any average-height actor could play?
One of the rare movies that was widely panned and ridiculed but that I still thoroughly enjoyed. Sure, it's nonsense -- but it's escapist, guilty-pleasure nonsense. If that's a sin, well then, go ahead and sin it. I still thought it was fun.
You forgot the sin where Will comes in dressed as that girl, all his nails are painted, even his toe nails, you're expected to believe that he took the time to do his nails as well before going off to save everyone, sin.
@@SparkY0 Actually, nail polish has been around for thousands of years. Pay more attention to fingertips in Egyptian and Chinese movies set on ancient times and you’ll see tons of nail polish used on both women and men.
@@Dark_Mishra Their point is accessibility. Utah was an underdeveloped region in 1874, which means that luxury products such as nail polish would not be directly accessible. Makeup accessibility in general was also historically something only in heavily-developed regions
The fact that they had toys in burger king's kids meals, and that it was one of my favorite movies at like 5 really says a lot about the 90s. Lol definitely wouldn't have passed that today
So did the rest of the episode. I come back to this channel every now and again, and every time I do, it's somehow even MORE full of virtue-signalling oversensitive bullshit than the last time.
@@lovejoy1311 No, it establishes that he notices the virtue signalling... I see this DARVO-esque attempt at a 'Gotcha!' all the time, and it's always a terrible position to take
Concerning the sin at 5:50...normally knitting needles are completely useless for making chainmail, but because of that scene I went to a Home Depot, bought two metal ground stakes that look like big-ass nails, and cut channels into the pointy ends...not the most efficient method but they worked.
“Movie makes me pay for my unbridled optimism by” ahem “slapping us in the face with a full two minutes of opening credits” Right out of the starting gate. Nicely done 😆
I feel like there are two large demographics regarding this movie: People who didn't like it when it came out in theaters, and people who were children/adolescents when they first saw it. There *might* be people over forty who thought it was good, but if so, they're enjoying it ironically, like Goldmember.
sin for sinning the assumption of movement based on hydraulics. if it has hydraulics (whatever it is) its going to have some motion, "locomotion" would be an incorrect assumption, but West said "move" which is an obvious technical accuracy. shame on you cinema sins
Surprised the first sin wasn't a "Prometheus school of running away from things." When I saw this movie, the first thing that bugged me was that the guy being chased by the sawblade didn't just duck underneath it and lay down on the ground. It can't possibly make sharp vertical turns, so once the magnetic neck harness was turned 90-degrees from level, it would either fly over and embed itself in the ground, or get pulled sideways against the harness and just spin there harmlessly. Unless he ducks way too early, in which case it would bisect him lengthwise, which would be pretty horrible. But as long as he gets the timing remotely right, there's no way that could follow if he fell flat on the ground.
It would just keep following him though because it's magnetized, so ducking would either make the blade go straight up and straight back down, or just continue forward and arch back around to still come after him, lol
@@danielleking262 I don't really think it would arch straight up or down, because the way it was depicted, it did follow certain rules of aerodynamics. But it's ultimately a made up special effect in a silly movie, so my speculation is just for amusement.
LOL, "It still slaps." Okay, I remember looking forward to this movie when it first came out, because Will Smith and Kevin Kline are such great individual actors. I thought the two of them together would be awesome. I was so disappointed. There was no chemistry between the two of them. It was like watching a really bad blind date. It looked like they were just going through the motions, and just really wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. The plot was okay, but the dialogue was miserable.
I know the movie is not great, but I love it anyway Anyway, saying it is one of the best movies Will Smith did I think it's a stretch, if you are being serious. If it is a joke, it's good one
6:07 he made that noise with his mouth. He was being silly and eccentric. It's like a western spy movie almost. The whole thing is about misdirection and deception. The gag was perfectly in line with the theme of the movie.
Fun fact for you: When me and my wife got married and moved in together we only had one small tv in our room and a DVD player with this movie in it I’m pretty sure we watched this movie like 2 weeks in a row every night. That was 6 years ago and my wife still won’t watch this movie again lmao
I haven't seen this movie in at least 18 years, and it was one of my favorites when I was a kid. I saw it when it was in theaters at a drive in, the last drive in around.
7:34 when you just walk into a room and you hear the ass end of a conversation with no context and your like WTF did I just hear? That's funny. Plus Gordon is an eccentric genius, possibly on the Spectrum, and simple train conductors wouldn't understand their idiosyncrasies and quirks. It's a joke. All he said was he knew it. He never once acted like he had a problem with it only that his suspicions were Justified. And why can't they be gay? It's still be a better love story than Twilight. Is that Meme still valid? He wasn't homophobic when he saved their lives later on revealing himself to also be working for the government making sure they didn't kill each other or get into trouble and not just a simple train conductor as previously implied.
Finally. I have awaited this one for so long. Jeremy - Tell Chris to pay more attention dammit. However. Question. Why keep sinning the racism, while then sinning the use of Redneck out of time period? I mean... I know, I know, sins don't have to make sense.
jeremy sinning the hell out of and pointing his finger at sexist jokes when he is the inventor of "scene doesn't contain a lapdance"... at best, confusing. at worst, hypocritical
I still really like this move, Kenneth Brannagh does a friggin amazing job. ITs definitely not a good movie, but damn if it is not both fun and funny. The casual racism is appropriate. Does everyone forget racism is just...a thing? Especially historically. Will pakistanis ever like jews? No. Ukranians like Russians? No. Its part of life, accept it. This whole 'racism bad' thing is extremely new.
When you watch movies as a kid… you mostly love everything. I do remember watching this on vhs and thinking it was a piece of junk. And then later in life…. You hear the Kevin Smith story about large mechanical spiders. 😳 It all comes together!
Surprised it wasn't mentioned that the mechanical spider was only in there because the producer was _obsessed_ with having a giant spider in a movie. Dude _wanted_ that spider to be in "Men in Black" and didn't get his way, and _then_ he produced Wild Wild West and got his damn spider. Also, love the "Explorers" reference on the last outtake. :)
Apparently his spider obsession was well known in Hollywood circles. The superman movie (with Nick Cage) that never took off was going to have spider boss battle because of the same producer. They rejected the spider for being too much.
@@BionicDance If you haven't already, you have to watch the death of superman lives. The producer you're referring to is Jon Peters and he's a coke addled psycho.
19:15, dont want to be that guy but one of the few things i learned hungover in engineering college that is you can indeed reset a magnets polarity by whacking it "Demagnetize a Magnet by Heating or Hammering If you heat a magnet past the temperature called the Curie point, the energy will free the magnetic dipoles from their ordered orientation. The long-range order is destroyed and the material will have little to no magnetization. The temperature required to achieve the effect is a physical property of the particular material. You can get the same effect by repeatedly hammering a magnet, applying pressure, or dropping it on a hard surface. The physical disruption and vibration shake the order out of the material, demagnetizing it." The more you know :D
@@SunlightGwyn unfortunately you have to take everything as racist or sexist or whatever. These cinema sins aren't even fun to watch when it's just complaining about those things.
4:28 24 this one did always bug me. Plus the Scopes of the time were massive. Those are some little Opera binoculars. Plus they change position several times so there is no way she saw the entire conversation. But it's a movie so whatever. Also the thing about the water tower, it's funny because the people drinking the water are obviously the bad guys. A bunch of racists drinking sweaty Will Smith water because clearly he's been there for a while. The implication is he had been there for a while waiting for somebody to slip up and say something to lead him to his next location.
I’ve always wondered why he died. I thought it was an editing error. I guess it was just a poorly framed shot. I honestly don’t know anyone who caught that. I’ll have to give it a rewatch.
Just remember that Will Smith turned down playing Neo in the Matrix to do this film. And you thought the slap memed round the world was his worst decision.
I think he did just fine without the Matrix anyway. Also, the Matrix is only a great movie because of the sum of its parts. Not because Keanu did some amazing work on it. I think the other sequels, including the new one, are proof of that.
You forgot After Earth. And Suicide Squad (2016). Bright. Turning down Django Unchained. That stupid "live-action" Aladdin remake. Hitch. Shark Tale. Jaden Smith. I could go on.
If the projection of the last image before death thing were real, you would not have to turn the head upside down. The images on the retinas would be upside down already and would be re-inverted passing back through the eye lenses to produce right side up images on the projection screen.
How about Will doing Gemini Man? That was embarrassing too, I mean did you see the CGI de aging on him?? It's laughably noticable and looks damn cheap 😂😂😂 Also we don't forget about After Earth too
This movie actually manages to capture the weird feel of the TV show 😆 Edit: why does nobody in the comments seem to know Wild Wild West was a TV show before this? Lol
Partly because it showed up on TV Land in the middle of the day, and only one or two days a week...to really watch it you had to have a day off from 12-4pm on a Thursday.
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I didn’t know this was widely considered a “bad” movie until I was an adult. I absolutely LOVED this movie as a kid 🤣🤣
I loved this movie as a teenager. A bit more shameful!
Same, dude. This shit was so dope as a kid when we went to see it at the drive-in
I only found out it gets so much hate a few weeks ago😂I’ve always liked it!
I still love this movie. It just has such a place in my heart. Went to see it in theaters and was absolutely mesmerized by the visuals in the dialogue.
I still love this movie. It's hilarious and so over the top and doesn't take itself too seriously
The sheep thing on the White House lawn was historically accurate and the best thing about the movie. It was like it came from a completely different version of the screenplay.
yeah idk why he was hating on it... maybe he doesn't read history books
Yes plus then you could probably just walk into the white house too security wasn't really big then
Ya'll didn't listen to the joke closely.
The mindless useless creatures are politicians.
I don't know if it was accurate to the time of the Grant administration. It did happen historically though.
It happened during Woodrow Wilson's time as president, which was about 45 years after Ulysses Grant's presidency.
I have a real soft spot for this movie because I watched it a lot as a kid. As an adult I am aware that it is not that great but it is pretty much the best mainstream piece of steampunk and/or weird west media we have. Yes, I consider it better than the Johnah Hex movie.
Got a soft spot for it too. I believe this is the first ever movie that I remember watching. I love the spider monstrosity.
Same here. I loved it when I was a kid and now I can see its flaws, but still enjoy the ride
Srsly, the movie is funny and have some nice effects. I loved that wild west steampunk aura, I played a lot of Wild Guns, and this movie was the first of that kind that I've seen back then
So, yeah. We sin, we laugh, but I will defend this movie from haters just like I defend Starship Troopers, Bright and even Venom. Not all sinner is hopeless XD
Same it’s was my childhood favorite movie tbh
Honestly the only reason to watch Jonah Hex is for the villains. Michael Fassbender and John Malkovich were gods in that movie. I hated them both so much yet they were still so charismatic I would have a drink with them. Especially Fassbender! They were likeable in the friendly banter they had between each other.
my friend and his gf set me up on a blind double date with one of their friends 10 years ago and when i was asking her about herself she said she was into steampunk. i asked her what it was and after she explained i was like "oh like wild wild west" and meant it genuinely interested. she wasn't impressed. We didn't go out again lol
As someone who watched Prometheus in the theatre and immediately hated how the protagonist didnt run to the left or right to dodge the gigantic rolling donut, i love how in cinemasins, phrases like "Promethean Path" and "School of Promethean-Running-Away" have become a term that is expected to be understood.
“Gigantic rolling donut.” 😂😆😆😄😁
The "Prometheus School of Running Away From Things" is a great meme
Prometheus was like the 4th video he did and it just became a running joke from then
Like how did that scene pass in anyones mind ...
As much flak as this movie gets, its still guilty fun! The visual effects on the mechanical spider was some impressive work as well.
Plus, Elmer Bernstein’s score is pretty good. The score used for the opening is one of my favorite scores for main credits
Same. Although cheesey, I enjoyed it. At least when I watched it in my teens 🤷♂️ Haven't seen it in years.
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Here here
I genuinely liked this movie when I first saw it 😂 I can’t convince my husband to watch it with me though he thinks it’s stupid 😂
I remembered being terrified by that saw blade when I first watched this. I was really little, but my fear wasn't that it was a saw blade that kills you; it was that it was apparently sentient and unable to be stopped until it did so.
I do believe youd like a thing called SCP-096
fr those things are nightmare fuel
I don't care what other people say. I love this movie so much.
I'm rewatching it now.
Me too, I loved the absurdity. It was undeniably a terrible movie, and yet my kid self absolutely loved it. Sometimes we like trash, and that's okay.
100% same. It is objectively terrible on many fronts, but I cannot help but love every second of it.
Preech. It will never get old and I love this movie and the spider so much.
It is great
I was hugely disappointed by this movie. It had so much going for it -- good source material, a great cast, a talented director, the opportunity for a lot of cool steampunk gadgets, and the scenic splendor of traditional westerns. And it squandered all of it!
I love this movie, and I love the steampunk genre
It is so unique and so underused
Thank you. It's great
right? the word i thought was "unique" like strange in a good way
The TV show did it far better. Which was surprising since this had a much bigger budget, obviously.
@@billwenham
West world isn't actually based on Wild Wild West. It's based on an old 70's sci fi movie called Logan's Run.
@@SparkY0 Who was talking about Westworld? I was talking about the 1965 show The Wild Wild West that this movie was based on. But since you brought it up, the current Westworld show is a remake of the film that came out three years prior to Logan's Run, and had a sequel and a short lived TV show back in the day too.
The opening credits are probably one of the best things about this film, a nice homage to the old TV credits sequence with a modernization to them. Certainly nothing to sin.
You can tell the new writers for the channel are extremely young. Along with the fact that every joke in every movie before 2013 is now offensive.
“Fun Facts”
Wild Wild West dominated the 1999 Golden Raspberry Awards with a grand total of 5 wins out of 9.
It won: Worst Picture, Worst Director (Barry Sonnenfeld), Worst Screenplay (7 people wrote this), Worst Screen Couple (Will Smith and Kevin Kline) and Worst Original Song (Wild Wild West by Will Smith, Dru Hill, Stevie Wonder and Kool Moe Dee)
It lost
• Worst Actor for Kevin Kline
Lost against Adam Sandler for Big Daddy
• Worst Supporting Actor for Kenneth Branagh
Lost against Ahmed Best as the voice of Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
• Worst Supporting Actress x2 for Salma Hayek and Kevin Kline as a prostitute
Both lost against Denise Richards for 007: The World is Not Enough
And another thing, Robert Conrad (star of the original tv show) accepted the awards in person to express his utter disgust with the movie
Deserved! Happy for the cast and the director
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wait Kenneth Branagh was actually in this movie? Damn from doing so many Shakespeare adaptations to this? Embarrassing tbh. Also it totally deserved to "win" worst picture 😂😂
Also this movie made a shit ton of cash but with a catch… the South Park movie came out at the same time and it was reported people would buy tickets for WWW and then go see the South Park movie
Sandler didn't deserve that Razzie. He was good in Big Daddy.
19:00 You actually can break magnetism of "soft" magnets by simply hitting them. So assuming the neck collars are made with some kind of iron based magnet, yes running into a wall really hard could save their lives.
Conversely, hitting a rare earth magnet will not break it's magnetism, but as they are very fragile it could just break them... so running into a wall very hard will again help.
Also personal magnetism can be broken by putting your head down and running at a wall.
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd!
@@monteriorhodes9859 and thank god for them lol
It would have made much more sense if they heated the magnet somehow. I'm pretty sure every magnet will lose its magnetic ability if they're heated up.
@@PrivateJoki By that same logic, they should have cooled down the movie script.
Gotta say
This movie is pretty ahead of its time
At least on a technical level
Oh, i thought because of Will Smith slapping people.
Shade thrown.
@@deathraygonzo6339 Yeah, part of me was thinking "Chris Rock is lucky Smith didn't use a shovel".
Will Smith would be canceled. James West was actually white man
The final round with Salma cussing Jim out is the best!
I was certain there would be an After-Sin scene with:
Loveless getting his wheelchair mechanical spider legs working and then a "Lt. Dan, you got your legs!" from Forrest Gump playing...
But unfortunately not hahaha
"Because sometimes comedy doesn't work, and sometimes when it doesn't work you look like an asshole."
CinemaSin's pep talk to hiself before recording somehow makes it into the script. _[Ding!]_
Funny, i was watching this movie the other week and kept having 'cinema sins' thoughts throughout the first 20 minutes so much that i went to youtube to watch the actual cinemasins breakdown only to find THERE WASNT ONE!!! NOW THERE IS!!!! Time to see how much of what I was thinking made the cutting room floor!
Me too
same ! lol
That is a shame you watch films with that outlook.
@@peteh4355 I find myself doing it at times too, but I can still enjoy the movies for the art that they are, and I only tend to do it on subsequent watches and not my intial watch.
@@peteh4355 have you seen this movie before? I have. I used to watch it all the time as a kid when it came out (Salma!!) And now that I know of cinema sins, I can't help but think of everything wrong with bad movies upon rewatching them. You should learn to mind your own business and not worry about things that don't concern you.
I remember Kevin Smith's Documentary when he was tasked by Barry Sonnenfield to write the script for Superman Lives. He wanted there to be a giant spider in the film and Kevin Smith thought it was a dumb idea. Then Smith remember going to see Wild Wild West and was just shocked to see a giant spider in the film.
It was the producer Jon Peters that wanted the giant spider. He also produced this crap :)
I thank this movie everyday for introducing me to the beauty that is Salma Hayek!!!
@CinemaSins
Um, guys? This movie was an Action Adventure COMEDY... The jokes were as intentional as they were plentiful. I'm sinning you 200 sins for failing to realize and account for this.
For me I liked the RCA dog joke. It was a thing until the 80’s. I also like the frizzy hair joke, because it shows spying isn’t just about maps and secret recordings. It’s about the mundane conversations and context clues.
Lol the rca dog "joke" died way before the 80s. Shill is gonna shill
96: Independence Day, fantastic
97: Men in Black, even better
99: Wild Wild West, Will Smith’s fun career ends
Talking about Will’s song in the credits
‘It slaps’
I see what you did that. Will does indeed slap…
9:08
Sinning the fact that CS thinks 5 is a bunch!!
2 is a couple,
3-4 is a few and
5 is a handful... Handful is not a bunch!
DING!!!
Remember, Will Smith turned down The Matrix for THIS
I literally just remembered this, so dumb then again his wife was in the sequels
He also turned down Tarantino for the Django roll in Django Unchained. He said the roll was too small but I'm pretty sure he was scared to work with actors who leave him in the dust talent wise.
I only hate three movies 1994's Double Dragon, 2015's Fantastic Four reboot, and the emoji movie. Any other movie I have literally 0 hatred for.
I bet the VHS of this is still in my parents house. Good times back when silly movies could look good and not be just absolutely brain dead like Fast & Furious and such.
as a kid, I loved watching old movies because the credits rolled in the beginning, and usually did so in a way to captivate the audience. I hate that they roll at the end of flicks now, and people just get up to leave. all those set designers, costumers, everyone, deserves to be seen!
To be fair, there are a lot more people who work on movies now than they did 60 years ago. Have you actually sat through an end credits? They're jam packed with hundreds of names and can take as long as 5 to 10 minutes to pass in some cases. It's no wonder they aren't at the beginning anymore.
@@captaincaptain2128 I always sit through until the end! and yes, as production increased, I did notice you'd have the main credits and then a faster reel. personally, if audiences don't like it and can't appreciate all that goes into putting the film on the big screen, they shouldn't go to the theater.
@@TeenDream888 what's so special about the people who make movies? Do you read the names of the thousands of people who worked on you dinner before you eat it? I suspect not. Or does it only count when you've left your home for the experience, maybe you only go to restaurants that spell out all the farmers, drivers, butchers, bakers, and veterinarians in your alphabetti spaghetti?
@@Milamberinx what's so special about people making movies, is that I appreciate everything that goes into a film and the fact that sitting myself down for two or three hours in an air conditioned movie theater, to enjoy a production that was years in the making and takes me away from life for a bit, is kind of a big deal. I guess if you live somewhere less remote it's common to just lose that, or not care about the impact of where you're eating or purchasing items.
So you see and remember everybody's name in all the credits you see? Because otherwise it is pointless to sit through them if you're not going to pay attention to them... The end credits are not for you, but for the production companies to see "which person worked on what" and scout out the best ones...
13:10 it was based on a 1898 painting called "His Master's Voice", which became the logo for the UK based music retail store HMV in the 1900s, before RCA
He gave out how many sins for the part with the severed head and somehow missed to point out the obvious flaw? That that just couldn't have been the last thing that man saw, when you take into account the pre-opening scene. After this moment, he was still running through the forest for several minutes.
I remember seeing this as a kid when it came out, recently watching it as an adult, still do not understand why people never loved this movie lol
Yeah. "Cringe" is way overused these days, but holy shit this movie is so cringe.
Because we grew up with the original. Spoiler alert: Loveless was a dwarf.
@@colormedubious4747 Original? Also, unless the original took place in a fantasy world, "dwarf" is very offensive.
Same I enjoyed it
@@AdmiralBlackstar News flash: The movie was based on a TV show from the 1960s (the "original"). Are you taking offense on behalf of people who didn't ask for your "help?" Fine, I'll fix it: Loveless was a midget. Better? 🤣
I loved this movie as a kid and still love it now!! I loved it even more when I realized Loveless is the same guy that played Lockhart in Harry Potter!
unpopular opinion: I actually love this movie
It's an unpopular opinion that you love the movie?
@@newsrapper yes, meaning that basically all the critics shat on this movie. Even Will himself doesn't like it.
@@SaarphireTTV well critics be dumb. I don't know anyone that takes critics seriously. Critics say that Dave Chappelle sucks.....
@@newsrapper lol, yeah they do.
Me too!
I watched this movie a ton as a kid and was surprised when ppl said it bad when I got older. But yeah it’s pretty 😭 I still got love for it tho.
BUT WHEW is it a LOT after years of not seeing it.
The first Will Smith movie that didn’t slap. I’ll see myself out
Go out, the joke sucks and doesnt even make sense.
He turned down Matrix for this
Nah you can stay
This shit was mid at best
@kania10 how's he you're light of day when he's black?
Y’all both trippen
Best western movie ever made
I love that when the movie was being made the writers/director were like "Well we couldn't possibly have Doctor Loveless be a man with dwarfism like he was in the old TV show, that would be offensive. Instead we'll make him disabled, that totally won't offend anyone."
The 90s were a wild time
Having the main villain with dwarfism would also significantly have limited the choices of well-known actors (to basically Vernon Troyer at the time). I don’t think it was simply out of fear of offending anyone, as the rest of the film seems to not care in the slightest.
I guess none of the few prominent actors with dwarfism was available to play Loveless-so the movie invented a plausible substitute condition, which any average-height actor could play?
People didn’t bitch about casting and nonsense like this in the 90s. Movies were there for entertainment
Offended people should never have any power.
I was ALMOST gonna be mad that you couldn't find a Will Smith Slapping joke but then you redeemed yourself with that final pun. Well done, sir.
1/3 of the sins were irrelevant nonsense, and Jeremy babbled for quite the some time, but that joke redeemed most of this vid.
I'm tired of the slapping joke. It overstayed it's welcome. It's done, Let's move on............
i was expecting a "keep my x out your mouth" joke somewhere
@@MrMJmusicLover I think that joke was a big hit.👍
@@koreanpathfinder Yes, back then, it's old news now. Move on......
One of the rare movies that was widely panned and ridiculed but that I still thoroughly enjoyed. Sure, it's nonsense -- but it's escapist, guilty-pleasure nonsense. If that's a sin, well then, go ahead and sin it. I still thought it was fun.
You forgot the sin where Will comes in dressed as that girl, all his nails are painted, even his toe nails, you're expected to believe that he took the time to do his nails as well before going off to save everyone, sin.
You're also expected to believe that they had nail polish in Utah in 1864.
@@SparkY0 - 1874. Grant had just been given command of the Union Arm in 1864.
@@SparkY0 Actually, nail polish has been around for thousands of years. Pay more attention to fingertips in Egyptian and Chinese movies set on ancient times and you’ll see tons of nail polish used on both women and men.
@@Dark_Mishra Their point is accessibility. Utah was an underdeveloped region in 1874, which means that luxury products such as nail polish would not be directly accessible. Makeup accessibility in general was also historically something only in heavily-developed regions
@@JamesTDG he had a train full of disguise kits ...im sure the govewrnment gave him the requested nail polish aswell!!!
The fact that they had toys in burger king's kids meals, and that it was one of my favorite movies at like 5 really says a lot about the 90s. Lol definitely wouldn't have passed that today
The sunglasses I remember
The Western Whopper is still the best Whopper BK ever made.
Jeremy's bit about the names at the start felt longer and more painful than the movie.
So did the rest of the episode.
I come back to this channel every now and again, and every time I do, it's somehow even MORE full of virtue-signalling oversensitive bullshit than the last time.
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid THANK YOU!
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid wait, doesn’t your stated position establish that you are oversensitive about virtue signaling comedy??
@@lovejoy1311 No, it establishes that he notices the virtue signalling... I see this DARVO-esque attempt at a 'Gotcha!' all the time, and it's always a terrible position to take
Concerning the sin at 5:50...normally knitting needles are completely useless for making chainmail, but because of that scene I went to a Home Depot, bought two metal ground stakes that look like big-ass nails, and cut channels into the pointy ends...not the most efficient method but they worked.
“Movie makes me pay for my unbridled optimism by” ahem “slapping us in the face with a full two minutes of opening credits”
Right out of the starting gate. Nicely done 😆
Will Smith's end-credit rap only slaps because it samples Stevie Wonder's "I Wish."
Have anyone seen LOVE, DEATH + ROBOTS?
One of the segments ("Good Hunting") is pure steampunk
3:52 The "hypnosis doesn't work on me only for it to in fact work" cliché *ding*
This soundtrack was everything, but I'll never forgive them for robbing us of the Nic Cage *_"Superman"_* movie that never was 💔😭😂
THAT is the only redeeming quality. No light up Superman suit
@@Celticrose9999 Light up Superman Suit > Steampunk Spider Legs
She was renamed Lippenreider after Loveless acquired her... not before. You can tell when he names James "Ebonya" or however he spells it
I kinda forgot how crude the humor was in this but I admit this a guilty pleasure to watch
Why call it "a guilty pleasure" when it can just be a pleasure?
@@imfsresidentotaku9699 Because some people can't think for themselves and want to fit in with the crowd.
Started cracking up at 16:22, when he said "Looney Tunes".
Okay, the whole "Saying the whole names" bit made me laugh way harder than it should've XD
It wasn't that funny
Can see the way this channel is going, so long its been fun.
Too much pc?
i am certain you were sorely missed
I’m honestly shocked there still isn’t a Pitch Meeting for this film. Time to start writing letters!!
I feel like there are two large demographics regarding this movie: People who didn't like it when it came out in theaters, and people who were children/adolescents when they first saw it. There *might* be people over forty who thought it was good, but if so, they're enjoying it ironically, like Goldmember.
I fall in the was a child when it came out
sin for sinning the assumption of movement based on hydraulics. if it has hydraulics (whatever it is) its going to have some motion, "locomotion" would be an incorrect assumption, but West said "move" which is an obvious technical accuracy. shame on you cinema sins
Surprised the first sin wasn't a "Prometheus school of running away from things." When I saw this movie, the first thing that bugged me was that the guy being chased by the sawblade didn't just duck underneath it and lay down on the ground. It can't possibly make sharp vertical turns, so once the magnetic neck harness was turned 90-degrees from level, it would either fly over and embed itself in the ground, or get pulled sideways against the harness and just spin there harmlessly. Unless he ducks way too early, in which case it would bisect him lengthwise, which would be pretty horrible. But as long as he gets the timing remotely right, there's no way that could follow if he fell flat on the ground.
Or he could just stand in front of a thick tree and duck at the very second and let the blade get stuck in the tree.
It would just keep following him though because it's magnetized, so ducking would either make the blade go straight up and straight back down, or just continue forward and arch back around to still come after him, lol
@@danielleking262 I don't really think it would arch straight up or down, because the way it was depicted, it did follow certain rules of aerodynamics. But it's ultimately a made up special effect in a silly movie, so my speculation is just for amusement.
LOL, "It still slaps."
Okay, I remember looking forward to this movie when it first came out, because Will Smith and Kevin Kline are such great individual actors. I thought the two of them together would be awesome. I was so disappointed. There was no chemistry between the two of them. It was like watching a really bad blind date. It looked like they were just going through the motions, and just really wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. The plot was okay, but the dialogue was miserable.
This movie is one of the best films Will Smith did, even though it's so underrated.
He personally regretted (and still regrets) doing it. He has apologized for it like 8 million times.
I know the movie is not great, but I love it anyway
Anyway, saying it is one of the best movies Will Smith did I think it's a stretch, if you are being serious. If it is a joke, it's good one
@@deathisonlythebeginning5098 didn’t he turn down matrix for this?? I would’ve regretted it too tbh
6:07 he made that noise with his mouth. He was being silly and eccentric. It's like a western spy movie almost. The whole thing is about misdirection and deception. The gag was perfectly in line with the theme of the movie.
Fun fact for you:
When me and my wife got married and moved in together we only had one small tv in our room and a DVD player with this movie in it
I’m pretty sure we watched this movie like 2 weeks in a row every night. That was 6 years ago and my wife still won’t watch this movie again lmao
Sheep did graze the White House grounds, tho. Only it was post WW1. But still, the sin sinned sheep being there, not it being anachronistic
Oh my god
Oh my god
Oh my god
Thank you
The commentator's laugh is accurate all the time. Especially when asking about the giant spider ascending the rock face.
Yes! My Childhood Movie that I actually saw in the movies! I even remember when Burger King had some promotional toys!! 🍔
I no longer have the sunglasses but still have the case...I store buttons in it for my sewing kit
I haven't seen this movie in at least 18 years, and it was one of my favorites when I was a kid. I saw it when it was in theaters at a drive in, the last drive in around.
7:34 when you just walk into a room and you hear the ass end of a conversation with no context and your like WTF did I just hear? That's funny. Plus Gordon is an eccentric genius, possibly on the Spectrum, and simple train conductors wouldn't understand their idiosyncrasies and quirks. It's a joke. All he said was he knew it. He never once acted like he had a problem with it only that his suspicions were Justified. And why can't they be gay? It's still be a better love story than Twilight. Is that Meme still valid? He wasn't homophobic when he saved their lives later on revealing himself to also be working for the government making sure they didn't kill each other or get into trouble and not just a simple train conductor as previously implied.
Love that you caught the exploding saw blades, right up there with the roar from a shark in Jaws the Revenge. 😂
Finally. I have awaited this one for so long. Jeremy - Tell Chris to pay more attention dammit.
However. Question. Why keep sinning the racism, while then sinning the use of Redneck out of time period? I mean... I know, I know, sins don't have to make sense.
Jesus does this guy enjoy any movie? Wild Wild West is a classic
My mind is still blown after watching this as an adult that Burger King had an entire promo and line of happy meal toys for it.
Nope. Happy Meals are McDonald's. Burger King has Kids Meals. You get a sin. DING!
“Scream. Scream. Help me. Do not pull on my arm.”
That is legit funny 😄
"Will Smith just smacked the s**t outta me" LOL classic!
It needs another 100 sins for the fact that they advertised for this movie by having kids meal toys at Burger King.
The song Wild Wild West is still a banger
Nice WarGames quote at the very end, thank you!
Good timing for this video, now that it's ok to dogpile Will Smith
"Metallic self- sanitizing penis pump " took me clean out. I rewinded the video multiple times 😂🤣😂🤣😂
jeremy sinning the hell out of and pointing his finger at sexist jokes when he is the inventor of "scene doesn't contain a lapdance"...
at best, confusing. at worst, hypocritical
Didn't you know? He's woke now.
@@reignman30 I've been getting that feeling a while now.
I still really like this move, Kenneth Brannagh does a friggin amazing job. ITs definitely not a good movie, but damn if it is not both fun and funny.
The casual racism is appropriate. Does everyone forget racism is just...a thing? Especially historically. Will pakistanis ever like jews? No. Ukranians like Russians? No. Its part of life, accept it. This whole 'racism bad' thing is extremely new.
When you watch movies as a kid… you mostly love everything.
I do remember watching this on vhs and thinking it was a piece of junk.
And then later in life…. You hear the Kevin Smith story about large mechanical spiders. 😳
It all comes together!
I remember my Aunt showing me this when I was like 6, she’s a bit off looking back on it
Surprised it wasn't mentioned that the mechanical spider was only in there because the producer was _obsessed_ with having a giant spider in a movie. Dude _wanted_ that spider to be in "Men in Black" and didn't get his way, and _then_ he produced Wild Wild West and got his damn spider.
Also, love the "Explorers" reference on the last outtake. :)
Just glad someone else watched that Q&A with Kevin Smith. One of the most entertaining stories about Hollywood ever.
@@Charliehildbold I didn't, actually.
I read the IMDb Trivia section years ago, and that's the only part I remember. :)
Apparently his spider obsession was well known in Hollywood circles. The superman movie (with Nick Cage) that never took off was going to have spider boss battle because of the same producer. They rejected the spider for being too much.
@@RobinNicoagain That guy must have _loved_ "Arachnophobia" and "8 Legged Freaks".
@@BionicDance If you haven't already, you have to watch the death of superman lives. The producer you're referring to is Jon Peters and he's a coke addled psycho.
Dude, the water at the beginning is for trains not drinking so it doesn't matter what they're doing in it
Being overly sensitive about “racist”, “sexist”, “ ableist” jokes…. DING. Not being able to take a joke…. DING
19:15, dont want to be that guy but one of the few things i learned hungover in engineering college that is you can indeed reset a magnets polarity by whacking it
"Demagnetize a Magnet by Heating or Hammering
If you heat a magnet past the temperature called the Curie point, the energy will free the magnetic dipoles from their ordered orientation. The long-range order is destroyed and the material will have little to no magnetization. The temperature required to achieve the effect is a physical property of the particular material.
You can get the same effect by repeatedly hammering a magnet, applying pressure, or dropping it on a hard surface. The physical disruption and vibration shake the order out of the material, demagnetizing it."
The more you know :D
I saw this film in the cinema on release and have loved it ever since. Good clean fun!
If you count men in drag, no-no parts, racism, sexism, homophobia, and the like as "clean", then I count surstromming as "pleasantly aromatic".
@@ilikecurry2345 Yeah all of that was funny. Grow a sense of humor. Anyone can be made fun of.
@@SunlightGwyn unfortunately you have to take everything as racist or sexist or whatever. These cinema sins aren't even fun to watch when it's just complaining about those things.
4:28 24 this one did always bug me. Plus the Scopes of the time were massive. Those are some little Opera binoculars. Plus they change position several times so there is no way she saw the entire conversation. But it's a movie so whatever. Also the thing about the water tower, it's funny because the people drinking the water are obviously the bad guys. A bunch of racists drinking sweaty Will Smith water because clearly he's been there for a while. The implication is he had been there for a while waiting for somebody to slip up and say something to lead him to his next location.
If I remember right, Frankenballs dies because he lifts the wrench to hit West and accidentally touches an exposed wire.
I’ve always wondered why he died. I thought it was an editing error. I guess it was just a poorly framed shot. I honestly don’t know anyone who caught that. I’ll have to give it a rewatch.
There is 1 more sin I would add: The stupid twist at the end on Selma's obsession with saving her "father".
Geez have these sin videos just devolved into him being offended by everything for others. Its exhausting to watch
"hard-pumpin' and indefatigably steely" 🤣🤣
Just remember that Will Smith turned down playing Neo in the Matrix to do this film.
And you thought the slap memed round the world was his worst decision.
I think he did just fine without the Matrix anyway. Also, the Matrix is only a great movie because of the sum of its parts. Not because Keanu did some amazing work on it. I think the other sequels, including the new one, are proof of that.
@@lovescarguitar Perhaps your right, however, turning it down to do this heap of crap?
not getting divorced is his worst decision.
You forgot After Earth. And Suicide Squad (2016). Bright. Turning down Django Unchained. That stupid "live-action" Aladdin remake. Hitch. Shark Tale. Jaden Smith. I could go on.
Jeremy forgets it’s a comedy movie cliche
If the projection of the last image before death thing were real, you would not have to turn the head upside down. The images on the retinas would be upside down already and would be re-inverted passing back through the eye lenses to produce right side up images on the projection screen.
ikr I was wondering about that
Finally I was waiting for this.
You are starting to get to political. I say this as a black man. I come here to funny jokes. Please return to funny jokes
im black as well and was hella confused to what dude was saying. I dont think the movie is offensive at all in that regard.
I'm afraid we're set on a crash course to woke tyranny
The "Georgia? No Africa" joke is hilarious
When you thought slapping Chris Rock was Will Smith’s most embarrassing moment in his career
How about Will doing Gemini Man? That was embarrassing too, I mean did you see the CGI de aging on him?? It's laughably noticable and looks damn cheap 😂😂😂
Also we don't forget about After Earth too
After Earth has entered the chat.
Him turning down Django is one of his stupidest decisions and that was before the movie came out
@@jonathanbohm6489 I haven't forgotten that. Another idiotic Smith move.
@@jonathanbohm6489 He also turned down the role of Neo in The Matrix for Wild Wild West.
16:23 CinemaSins incorrectly typing Looney Tunes as "Looney Toons" -------> DING!
This movie actually manages to capture the weird feel of the TV show 😆
Edit: why does nobody in the comments seem to know Wild Wild West was a TV show before this? Lol
Partly because it showed up on TV Land in the middle of the day, and only one or two days a week...to really watch it you had to have a day off from 12-4pm on a Thursday.
you just subverted the "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" scene in such a hilarious way that I almost AFK'd out of my GTA Online session XD