One thing I forgot to mention in the video is that these speakers don't disappear. You can localize the tweeter especially when something sharp plays. If enough people ask for the RF7 III, I will reach out to Klipsch, it would help if you can send them an email too. Don't forget to like and subscribe.
Please review the RF7 III. The 8000F and the RF7's were on my shortlist. In the end I went with their heritage line and got some Cornwalls. Definitely not a bright sounding speaker, but with amazing dynamics.
Thomas, You really, really helped me pick the right speakers for my setup. I watch a lot of audio review channels, and you are one of the best! It's obvious when you're excited about a speaker, and you are so good at articulately describing your experience so that I feel that I have just demoed them myself. I ended up buying the RP8000F towers, the 504c center, RP500 SA atmos speakers, a couple of Polk 265 RT in walls and an SVS PB-3000 subwoofer for a 5.1.2. I'm using the Denon X3700H and an Emotiva amp to help drive these bad boys. Eventually I will pump this thing up to a 7.1.4, but my only hurdle is that one of the surrounds will be in a wall with a gas fireplace below it. The sheetrock gets darn right hot, and I'm concerned that the heat will ruin the speakers. What do you think about putting an in wall speaker in a wall that has a gas fireplace in it?
Went from the MA bronze 1 to the Klipsch RP-160M (I'm 15 so couldn't afford the RP600(they cost almost 900 USD here in Norway.) paired with a Hegel HD11 and NAD D3045. And to be honest, I totally agree that the RP line Klipsch's are really fun listening to. You're one of the reasons I decided to buy the RP-160M. They're not sharp at all (a lot of people complain about Klipsch speakers being sharp) They're incredibly loud, Still maintain their "fullness" and doesn't get tinny/or sharp when you turn them up. Yet to break them in so can't judge them, wish they went a little lower (even though I've got a SVS PB-1000). But their bass is quite impressive down to 40 Hz. Keep up your work man, really enjoy your content. Cheers from Norway :)
Thank you for making a direct comparison between these and the LSiM, as it was a subject that had crossed my mind. My LSiM 5.0 set up sounds terrific with a Denon x7200. But the Klipsch RP sound amazing in a demo room. With no way to pair them for a side-by-side, I rely on word of mouth. Your vids provide authentic, no frills assessments that have enough credibility for my peace of mind.
I have the smaller ones here in this video with an Onkyo receiver, along with a Polk Audio 10 for the lows. And blown away at how good they sound. I started small, i see so many love/hate reviews on Klipsh speakers. I guess this is one of thoses brands its either you like them or you hate them. Overall, they sound good. They can be a little harsh on the high end, but toe them in a little bit helps with that.
Thomas, congratulations on another entertaining review, particularly one that a wide range of people can relate to. I've owned both those since they first came out and concur with your experience with each, however, I usually listen to them in a surround setup, but have spent a lot of time pairing them with several amps in stereo application. What I conclude is that the RP series are fundamentally, sound reinforcement speakers, intended to deliver clean dynamics, i.e. fast transition in dB as one would appreciate in an action movie sound effects. When I have used them strictly in stereo, they lack frequency response in the mid band, particularly when played at moderate levels. When belting out sound, they tend to come into better balance through the frequency band (high to low). When playing live music recordings, they can shine nicely over more expensive gear, but they really come together when used in a full 7 or 5 channel setup. The Klipsch center brings out all the missing vocals from the towers or bookshelf types. Then you get true instrument separation with the singer in the middle as in a real live venue. I also own the previous model RF towers with the newest RF center. Although these components are a good bit better than the RP series, the same thing tends to be true. When paired with their center channel, absolutely glorious. Without, as you say, meh. It is simply that the 6.5" and 8" woofers have a significant dB drop off from about 800hz and up, so those speakers rely on the wave guide tweeter (i.e. horn) to pick up the slack. Problem is that those horns only dip down to about 2Khz, thus leaving a void in part of the vocal range. Some think the RP series is warm, but it only seems that way from lack of lower vocal range. The center channel corrects most of this shortcoming. Still, they are a lot of fun, especially for the budget pricing. Won't be using any of my RP gear to replace stereo listening of my Cornwall 3s any time soon though. Cheers Thomas!
Thanks Taz for the clarification. Man I wish I would have spoken to you before I made the review. If I ask for the RF7III, I wonder if I should also ask for the center...
I respect you as a reviewer because you are not snobbish towards Polk Audio LSiM. Many audiophiles dismiss them regardless of price. But these speakers go toe to toe with many others. As an all rounder, and at the current price, it's impossible to beat. You get a lot of speaker for very little $$. And that is a value that you may not beat in a lifetime. Sure you can spend a lot more and get a better speaker but value wise,. this beats everything out there. I paid $1050 for my pair from Adorama, shipped. I will never part with my pair even though i have other more 'higher' end speakers and brands audiophiles would much rather pay attention too. I am keeping these till the drivers rot.
I have my 8000 RF connected to Audio quest 14 gauge pure copper wire no bananas and Sydney's Rca connectors on a Bie wired fashion Awesome sound clarity and datails
Comparing the 8000f vs the RF7iii vs the Polk lsim 707 would be a crazy good comparison It’ll let you see how the klipsch sound improves within their line and how they compare to the Polk lsim which was in the same price bracket.
@perl man The Polk LSIM 707's are very good. But I think the RF 7 III's are absolutely astonishing!!! I'll be asking Klipsch to send Thomas a pair for review, meanwhile over the past months I've posted a few videos demonstrating the RF 7 III's performance. If you like, please check them out. Cheers. th-cam.com/video/M7_zMnd0p9I/w-d-xo.html
@perl man Agreed. I'd say it all depends on personal preferences and budget😏. But like you, I did a lot of research before settling on the RF 7III's. If you click on the image on the top left it should take you to the channel where I have a few videos of the RF 7III's performing in my space. Enjoy.
Yes, I have had klipsch for years starting 1974... don't forget to stack them up. Then turn the volume up and she will join you dancing all night long! Thanks for posting.
Great channel and a great review! I'm happy I found you. I own the Klipsch RP-280F that came out before the RP800F and they are exactly what you said in the review. That's pretty impressive, you now got a new subscriber. Keep it up!
I've had both the 8000f and 600m as well. I noticed the same thing about the 8000f not disappearing into the room as much as I would've liked. The 600m disappeared much more. I was very happy with the 8000f except for that part, I'm having to decide on what's more important to me between the disappearance of the 600m and the mids/bass of the 8000f.
@@hughd7636 Hey Hugh, yes all the music played through the 600m imaged better, at no time can I tell the music is coming from a speaker, it's all coming from the background/air. I could move all around the room and maintain that so it has very big sweet spot. Where as with the 8000f, unless I was sitting dead center I could notice much more the music was coming from the left/right speaker.
I'm between these two. My main problem is the room. It's big but it's an apartment. I'll be listening to mid level volume music. The 8000 looks huge. Wich is better at low volume? the 8000 or the 600m plus a subwoofer?
I’d love to hear about your impressions of Danny Richie’s GR-Research mods for the Klipsch RP-600M speakers if you ever get a chance to hear them. Keep up the fine work!
I've listen to Danny Richie on GR research on the RP 8000f's and I'm confused here's why. Danny stated the Rp 8000f has a big hole in the middle, tweeter and woofers don't crossover correctly. But Audioholics Gene D. had his team do the measurements and stated they were awesome. So I'm not sure who to believe, but going on my Sales experience 26yrs. Danny does sell kits, he does state some truth about price pts speaker companies want to hit a exact price pt on each speaker. So cutting costs is the way to get there.
Been looking at this for some time. Just sold my 21 yr old PSB Stratus Silver Floorstanding and Klipsch pops in my mind everytime I go to London Drugs electronics department. Thanks for the review
I almost LIVE at London drugs! I am literally on a first name basis with staff! I wanted to say they have bent over backwards for me with honoring expired sales pricing, most recently they honored the sale of the SPL100 sub at $599 vs $799 on 2 separate occasions. They also matched The Bricks pricing on a Klipsch R52C center channel for my wife! SUCH GREAT SERVICE Lastly, having seen the Klipsch RP504C on sale somewhere for $750 (reg $999) I made EVERY effort to have someone honor that and that wasn't happening... knowing that Visions sells select RP speakers I pushed & they agreed to sell it at $750+tax!!! Long and short, KLIPSCH is fantastic, way out performs its price point and deals pop up often!!! Last thing... when I excitedly arrived home with the RP260F'S (the predisessor to the RP6000) I wanted to hear them so bad that I just quickly hooked them to our center channel in our small theater on our main floor. I was giddy like a kid seeing a new bike in the living room! Out of a large showroom and in a more easily filled room these BLEW my mind! Clear/Bright & PUNCHY!!! AMAZINGLY FULL SOUND GOOD LUCK
Thanks for the video review of one of my favorite brands Thomas. It would be cool to hear some Klipsch on some $10K front end for sure! I have never warmed to the Spun Copper Cerametallic™ Woofers since their inception, for my ears it killied the dynamic mid bass. What would be cool to see you review is the KLIPSCHORN AK6...? The other side of Klipsch is their pro line cinema speaker that are very cool.
Hi Thomas! Greetings from New Zealand! Just ordered a pair of RP-8000f's a hour ago, after watching your video. Been considering it for a while, but your wife reaction, convinced me its the way to go! :) Crossing fingers they work well with my 12-watt tube amp!
Haha..but don't you guys pay crazy shipping charges at NZ? I was driving the klipsch with a 200w class D amp so I really hope the 12w tube amp can do it! Remember to give it a lot of time to break in.
You are a very authentic reviewer. Most reviewers would just be saying Klipsch walks on water, but you point out the "brightness" which a lot of people won't like in a speaker. And your favourite speaker is Polk which is a favourite of the top reviewers I notice, although it is a bit of an obscure brand. And you *own* Polk speakers, not just review them for a couple of days.
Thanks again Thomas. I I’ll be replacing some old JBL’s that have EV horns in them. With the Klipsh 8000 F’s was just waiting to see what your take on them was. As always you seem to have come up with the best and most definitive last words on the subject! I hope I have a good enough front end to do them justice in my McIntosh
Well if you have some old JBL horns, I don't think a 8000F will be an upgrade for you. For me, an upgrade is 2 levels up at least. These are still consider budget line.
The smile on your face says all we need to know. Try them with tube gear if you haven't already. My upgraded Klipsch Forte II with my Primaluna Dialogue Premium gear is outstanding. Makes me smile just like you. Thanks for the review as always
I absolutely love my RP8000F! Glad you like them too. They really do make music fun and enjoyable to listen to! Without any of that old shouty/fatiguing Klipsch sound, that many still think of when they hear about Klipsch. Ps My goal for getting new speakers was to find something smaller and more design friendly than my old ones, but ending up buying these that are even larger because they sound so well! Haha!
Hey great review. I was thinking to have the R8000F with RP600M as surrounds as bookshelf speakers can be used as surround. Do you think its a good setup or would you recommend some other surround speakers, if so which one? Also, would you say if I get a good receiver it should give decent bass (with the built in woofers in R8000F) or subwoofer is necessary?
Thomas & Stereo I have owned Reference 3 A, B&W and Devore speakers. I am seriously thinking about buying a pair of Klipsch (the price is right!), but they seem to have a lot of cheap parts on them (like the steel binding posts), so Im checking with all my dealers now to see if they know anyone who can upgrade the 600ms with new binding posts (WBT) and crossovers and internal wire. (Dueland)
@@estebannemo1957 Well, they have to to reach a certain price point. There are 2 ways to look at it. For me, I find it amazing that they can deliver such an amazing sound with cheap components. Anyone can build a fancy speaker / system when money is no object. We can always improve on something but there is a reason why a speaker is at a certain price point. Usually, from what I gathered, to run a successful business, the cost of the speaker is about 15% of the selling price else the company will go out of business. Why? If you ever ran a business, you will understand all the hidden cost behind. Now, if you want something of more value, then you will have to look at companies that sell direct to customers perhaps. Here is a link to a comment from a manufacturer that will explain it better. A very good read. www.avsforum.com/forum/89-speakers/1348949-philharmonic-audio-dennis-murphy-279.html#post57933376
Cambridge CXA81 with RP8000F sound so lound and clear! I really like my audio system now, and its sounds " bright " , i like it better then the really expensive audio that are to "correct" sounding..
I passed up on the 600m again in favor of the crazy sale price on the JBL studio 530, I actually wrote you another book comment but I deleted it 😆 didn't wanna bother you with all my rambling lmao. Thanks again the audio Sensei !
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Yup, it was sent to my email so I did see it. Thanks and keep it there next time! Regarding the R2R Dac, everyone is waiting for it and I have mixed feelings about it, how to review it...
@@ThomasAndStereo I won't delete my comments anymore, I feel you on the mixed feelings when reviewing certain audio gear, theirs just so many pros vs cons its crazy , i'm going threw the same situation Thomas , My last video upload of the IOTAVX that i'm still working on. THE MULTI-FI-STACK-ATTACK ! And at end of video, i will be doing a comparison, the STACK against The Pioneer Elite Sx-N30, And its very hard to compare , The Stack is more balanced and refined with better dynamics, which leans towards a neutral sound signature , but the Pioneer has that rich powerful sound like a budget Denon integrated 1k amp has , ehaaa both are priced very simular, but the Pioneer sounds amazing with KEF speakers ! And the IOTAVX sounds amazing with all my other speakers . And i'm not a Pioneer fan at all, but the SX-N30 makes Magic with smaller KEF 🔊 ! Its just about finding that synergy theirs no better or best, you and ZF are so correct when you all say that !!! 😆
Nice review Thomas, would of liked to see them hooked up to tube front end. I like your unique way of describing how equipment sounds.First review of 2020, Happy New Year & keep up the good work!
Another great time listening to your thoughts and stories Thomas! Props on step-in up the video quality and shots. I really enjoyed the one big shot of the front setup panning down.. good stuff man. I have been going back and forth on this same question all year debating between the RP600M due to all the reviews and from some short listening sessions but in the back of my mind I always wondered if bigger would mean better. I ultimately got lucky enough to hear the 8000F and was blown away but also missed that instrument separation and detail of the RP600M just like you did. So what to do? I purchased the RP 4000F! It seems to be the forgotten child of the lineup because I bought them for an absolute steal brand new, less than the RP600Ms! I am hoping it will l split the difference and give me that just right Goldilocks experience. I have to admit I am worried that the small drivers may hold it back but the small cabinet for a floor stander really intrigued me and it goes deeper than the RP600M, with maybe even more control due to the small drivers? Thats the hope anyway still need to set up this week hopefully I'll let you know! Keep up the great work it doesn't go unnoticed. Glad you are sticking with it!
My room is small maybe the r 82f are they good? but I like these 8000f my front is a emotiva bas X A3 with the Denon avc x4 700h and 4 basx A2s for the other 8 channels
Hey, Thomas! I do really need Your help here. I was planning to buy 8000 for fronts, 6000 for rears, 504 for center, and some vented SVS or Arendal sub. The room is pretty small (~20 sq.m.) and music/movies 70/30. But now we got a damn war here. So, I'm not sure I will reach financially that setup. How do You think, maybe I should consider RP-600m for fronts and rears, 504 for center and 2 sealed subs instead? Or it's better to stick to original setup still (just, probably, to substitute rears for RP-600m instead of RP-6000)?
Great review! Thank you very much. Could you please do a video on how to soundtreat a room? I would like to know how to treat my room. I know about basstraps, diffusors, acoustic panels and all that good stuff but I really can’t find any information on how to place them/install them/how many I need for a room. I tend to go overkill most of the times so I really need some guidance in how many basstraps/diffusors/acoustic panels I need for any given room, I know everyone is different and what works for someone doesn’t work for another but I would like some rules of thumb or just some guidance… I hope you can make a video on this 🙏🏼❤️
Yeah I’m curious how these stack up against the new RF7iii? I’ve owned the RF7ii in the past and felt they didn’t have magic with music. But when I purchased a pair of RP160m for my wife’s office, I was shocked how musical they were. Then I heard the new RP-600m and I was blown away. My Klipsch dealer was concerned the direction Klipsch would be taking when they were acquired by Audiovox (I assuming it happened). Wow Klipsch has really stepped up their game! They are no longer just good for movies but great for music now! Would love to hear your thoughts on the newer RF7iii. I have yet to audition those. Thank you!
I have the klipsch rp-280fa I only bought them because I got a good price on them... I was always a def tech guy.. bp20s bp2000 studio monitors 450s and I have to say I really really like the klipsch!!!
Probably a crazy question, but any thoughts to these compared with the Tekton DI? Klipsch much more in the budget and I've wanted them for a while. I'm also seriously intrigued about the tekton, just not sure if additional price would be easy to realize
Budget speakers nowadays aren't made in house but are built off-country to specifications with lower labor costs. Snobs might consider these to be more ephemeral than the in-house built ones.
Hi Thomas. Thank you for that video! I did By-Amp them. Big different then, better and stronger. But i miss really the middles. My setup: Yamaha RX-A 3080 - Denon POA 2800 - Setup 9.1. Subwoofer is a Boston Accoustic SW10. My own made 3-Way-Speaker have more "clearance". BTW, by unboxing --> open top and bottom, so you can push it out of the box. ;o) By from Roly - switzerland.
I also feel that my RB81ii are missing mid's. I purchased a center speaker - rp504c and now I can hear mids finally. Maybe a smaller woofer is better in this regard?
I tried the Klipsch Rp280s without Bi wiring, i didn't like the sound as much as when i did Bi wired them. Separated the instruments, then recently Bi Amped them. Crossovered at 80hrz sent bass to sub, 300watts just feeds the highs n mids. Like it way more now, but also made some dyi wires ofc 12 awg x 3. Amazing sound to me. Enjoy.
Hi Thomas, I'm new to the hifi scene and I'm building my first 5.1 setup. I'm currently looking at the 8000f as my main speakers and I have one quick question, does it pair well with the Denon X1600H?
Thomas, I am looking to purchase the klipsch RP 8000 and 600m set for home theater. Looking for a receiver with pre-out for future addon. Meanwhile, thinking about Denon 3700H or a cheaper Onkyo TXRZ730. Which of the 2 would you think matches better with the klipsch? Or any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Hey Thomas!! I am going to ATMOS here soon..I’ve been WANTING the 8000 , but realize that the 8026s ARE THAT SAME SOEAKER with just the ATMOS topper, SO: Since there are NO PLACES TO LISTEN anymore, I’m counting on “SOUND” 😂 ADVICE from you on this, as I have a pair of 20 yr. old KLF10s that STILL HOLD THEIT OWN!! I’d like your opinion as to which Klipsch WILL SOUND EVEN BETTER than my 10’s, as NOW I’m even considering the 7-IIIs too, as they’re a 10” woofer, like mine! Will the 8000 PLAY & SOUND BETTER than my KLFs? Do you think the 8026 is a better deal (as I DO want to go full on ATMOS!) than the 8000s OR the 7-IIIs? I need your help, brother! Thanks in advance and I sure enjoy your videos!! Al
Hello Thomas, thanks for the excellent review. Am considering these speakers to go with my Marantz model 30 amplifier. Buying them online, hence cannot audition them before buying. Would it be a good match for this amp? My genre of music is Classic rock, jazz, blues.... Thanks in advance.
I personally like it but keep in mind it does have a V curve so the positive is it is very lively and fun, the downside is not all instruments in the presentation will have the same presence. I have not heard the Model 30 so I don't know its sound signature.
Hey Thomas, how would these compare both RP models, to the LS50W? Thinking of grabbing something for an NYC apartment. Currently don't own any front end so that's something i'm considering
Not sure your budget or preference style but I like my Klipsch 280f paired with the Yamaha aventage 880 which is laid back. Be prepared for long break in period and hard time getting room correction and placement exactly how you like it unless you're more skilled with it than I was. Last week JBL had the studio 570 for $200 each. I thought that was a good buy so my brother bought a pair. I have the 580 and they're pretty good, too. Elac ub5 is neutral, kinda boring in my opinion but easy to listen to for long periods of time. You might find something you like better. I recommend cheap audio man if you're budget is tight.
Hi there, I’m looking at purchasing these to go with SPL-150. Would this be overkill bass wise? Should I just stick to 6000f instead since my bass is being taken care of the subwoofer? Horns are identical to both models so just missing out on bass being produced by 8” woofers. Thanks.
Thomas, I have a home theater with an acoustically transparent screen, I have two svs subwoofers that I am very happy with, as well as 2 klipsch r-26f floor standing, keeping in mind the subwoofers are a very flat response and integrate seamlessly with a lot of speakers, should I go with the klipsch rp600m as my left right and center? my room is only 12 by 18 feet, would it even be worth getting the floorstanding?
Thanks Thomas I got the RP 8000F last week... I felt good ordering from Amazon with your review. I love them so far.... you mention the break in period ... how long do you think that is. I really appreciate your fun and informative videos. Jerry. OH it's on an 80 watt NAD.
Thomas, i have the previous version RP-280F pairing it with emotiva G2 5-ch amp, i dont seem to get much bass from it. Since its similar with 8000F, i assume it the same. Any advice on why i am not getting enough bass or should i say that i am not feeling sufficient bass from it. And any way to make it more punchy? thanks. I got the RC-64 III as the center, and i feel much more punchy bass from it. ???
Value-for-money today is off the charts. It's FAR better today than ever. Even within the last 5 years, everything has gotten much better for the money. Tracking this over the last 45 years, it wasn't always like this - at all. This can be said about a lot of things today.
Hello Thomas, I'm thinking to go for a Klipsch setup in my living room. Probably going for the RP-6000f @ the front and some RP-500SA in the back. I love music as well movies. I have 3 questions: 1. Should I buy an av receiver like a Marantz NR1710 or just stick to a amp like your Yamaha. I like when the audio sounds full and compleet on lower volume. 2. How do the klipsch Rp 600m bookshelf speakers on stands compare to the RP-6000f like in your video?? 3. What do you mean with a good frond end amp and what is the use for an extra external amp. I'm new in the audio scene 🙈 right now I'm just using basic old stuf like a Kenwood ka-5020 amp and some JBL LX1000. It's your video's that inspire me to invest in some new setup. Thx Thomas!!
The thing is if you are going for 5.1, you will need a receiver. I don't know anything about Marantz. I would think the same logic would apply with the RP6000F but less mid bass, I would assume it would be someone coherent the drivers but can't tell unless I hear them. External amp is great but not necessary, it is only when you play with higher end setup that the benefit really shows. At this level, a good integrated should be fine. I don't know if these RP6000F will be a true upgrade from you JBL LX1000 because those speakers look pretty good. I always say, if you are going to upgrade, jump 2 levels up and not one.
Hi Thomas, I’m wondering if the RP600M would sound good on a vintage Kenwood KR 7600 receiver. I hope to replace the big old floor speakers from the late 70s early 80s. The receiver has been refreshed ,for many more years. Thanks for your time.
Did you have a chance to run them around the block with the Class D mono blocks? That type of pairing would leave more $ on the table for the Musical Paradise or Denefrips DAC...
Thomas what do you think of 8000f pairing with Macintosch MA6500? I am mostly into hard rock and loud music. Currently, i run a Mac with Paradigm SE monitor 8000f and the results are no good at all...
@@ThomasAndStereo no power at all. Sharpness and clarity is basically non existing. The sound is like it's coming from a well. On jazz, acoustics etc is let say decent, but with heavier music everything just falls apart. Was really expecting more from Paradigm...
@@ThomasAndStereo yes, all is in the middle. I have tried to tweak everything left and right, but not much difference...i think if the speakers are good it should sound good with everything in the middle...
@@ivanlovrincevic5868 Yeah, its too bad. Have you tried changing to 4 or 8 ohm? So even if the treble set to maximum, there is not much difference? Strange in the sense Mcintosh treble control should have a very big impact, whether a good or bad impact is a different story, but it should be very noticeable.
Wonderful review, I am planning to get 8000F pair, what is an ideal centre speaker for this? Can I use my Paradigm 7.1 CT cinema with these speakers, for surround and ceiling Atmos? What is ideal 11 channel AVR for this?
Well focal are more refined, less fun bass but quicker. The tweeter is really detail with the focal Completely different sound. One is about dynamic, the other is about detail and speed.
I have an SVS pb-1000 and am questioning how much sense it would make to pair a floor standing speaker like the 8000f with a subwoofer, should I just go with a bookshelf instead, for a small room?
My gf loves the Pink/Nate duet. I have heard it 4 times in the last month. I have it going through 2 canton le290/2 klipsch rp160m/svspb12/klipsch sw112 and a onkyo nr709/sr603 zone2. The vocals are top notch.
Hi, I am looking at the video and learned a lot of things. I have many questions because I wanted to hear your opinion about which speakers to get under a budget of $3000. I am living in a 34pyeong apartment now, but I am worried about choosing the appropriate speakers for the living room. Because I'm flowered in Klipsch.. I'd like to hear which one you recommend! Thank you
I’ve had both and kept the 280Fs because they aren’t quite as bright imo. Running them off of a marantz 6013 Avr and Emotiva xpa3 for front stage. 504c center. And I don’t like the copper trim rings they incorporated in the newer model.
@@TheDoozie43 I'm choosing between 280 and 8000. Thanks for Your opinion. But that man 👆had been asking for difference between 820 and 8000 (Reference line vs Reverence Premiere).
Great video and useful info too. How would you rate the Klipsch Reference Series R-620F? I find that there is low volume of bass with these and i needed to add a sub. Should these put out more than im experiencing or they more aimed at the sound of the mids and highs? Thanks
Sadly after I tried the REL subs, I hear the difference between budget and quality sub so it is hard for me to recommend. If you need it for music, ideally something that is sealed.
I don't like subwoofers (I prefer 3 ways), but NHT making great and not expensive subwoofers. www.amazon.com/NHT-SS-10-10-inch-Subwoofer-Laminate/dp/B019C5LY7G/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=nht+subwoofer&qid=1578521841&s=electronics&sr=1-1
Hi Thomas - I'm about to buy the RP600M, but I am not sure what streamer to pair it with. The main use for the speakers is to stream HD music from Amazon Music. Or should I go with the RW-51M due to its bluetooth connectivity? Could you please help me out?
@@ThomasAndStereo Thomas, I'm not considering the Hives because I like how the bronze color of the woofers on the 600m look. Is there any chance you could recommend the correct streamer to pair the 600m with, one that doesn't cost a fortune please??? Thank you very much in advance!
I listen to rock. I had sounds systems that cost me from 10k to 50k. Until one day I sold everything and got some kliptch and marantz amp. The sound was much better and the cost much lower than all my ex expensive systems.
@@daftpaolo I sold all the rest for a crazy price. Lol. I guess metal and rock does not go well with high costly speakers and amp. Was no dynamic and bass.
I have both, the 8000's are awesome! VERY picky on placement and amplification, and correct they scale really well. I improved Base definition by leaning foam wall treatment at a 45deg angle against the speakers rear port.
A conclusion would be easy to reach that says the 280f has not good or bad bass definition or that the bass is hummy (box resonance). On the speaker's own it probably does have bass issues but if you used ypao room correction, it will fix that bass right up on the 280f. The bass is clean and powerful in my system with the 280f.
One thing I forgot to mention in the video is that these speakers don't disappear. You can localize the tweeter especially when something sharp plays. If enough people ask for the RF7 III, I will reach out to Klipsch, it would help if you can send them an email too. Don't forget to like and subscribe.
Please review the RF7 III. The 8000F and the RF7's were on my shortlist. In the end I went with their heritage line and got some Cornwalls. Definitely not a bright sounding speaker, but with amazing dynamics.
Yes, please review. I'm really looking into getting those.
@@Roo-n9j Nice, if you can help me send them an email too, it will help. Thanks!
@@crh4878 Thanks Carlton, if you can send them an email too, it will help me.
@@ThomasAndStereo Can I ask you how I go about this? I will do it.
"You can just Google the specs." That's when I liked and subscribed. Thank you.
Thomas,
You really, really helped me pick the right speakers for my setup. I watch a lot of audio review channels, and you are one of the best! It's obvious when you're excited about a speaker, and you are so good at articulately describing your experience so that I feel that I have just demoed them myself. I ended up buying the RP8000F towers, the 504c center, RP500 SA atmos speakers, a couple of Polk 265 RT in walls and an SVS PB-3000 subwoofer for a 5.1.2. I'm using the Denon X3700H and an Emotiva amp to help drive these bad boys. Eventually I will pump this thing up to a 7.1.4, but my only hurdle is that one of the surrounds will be in a wall with a gas fireplace below it. The sheetrock gets darn right hot, and I'm concerned that the heat will ruin the speakers. What do you think about putting an in wall speaker in a wall that has a gas fireplace in it?
Went from the MA bronze 1 to the Klipsch RP-160M (I'm 15 so couldn't afford the RP600(they cost almost 900 USD here in Norway.) paired with a Hegel HD11 and NAD D3045. And to be honest, I totally agree that the RP line Klipsch's are really fun listening to. You're one of the reasons I decided to buy the RP-160M. They're not sharp at all (a lot of people complain about Klipsch speakers being sharp) They're incredibly loud, Still maintain their "fullness" and doesn't get tinny/or sharp when you turn them up. Yet to break them in so can't judge them, wish they went a little lower (even though I've got a SVS PB-1000). But their bass is quite impressive down to 40 Hz. Keep up your work man, really enjoy your content. Cheers from Norway :)
Thanks for the feedback.
I bet this system sounds killer.
Thank you for making a direct comparison between these and the LSiM, as it was a subject that had crossed my mind. My LSiM 5.0 set up sounds terrific with a Denon x7200. But the Klipsch RP sound amazing in a demo room. With no way to pair them for a side-by-side, I rely on word of mouth. Your vids provide authentic, no frills assessments that have enough credibility for my peace of mind.
You do great reviews. I appreciate that you focus on your impressions of the speakers' performance, and not the specs.
I have the smaller ones here in this video with an Onkyo receiver, along with a Polk Audio 10 for the lows. And blown away at how good they sound. I started small, i see so many love/hate reviews on Klipsh speakers. I guess this is one of thoses brands its either you like them or you hate them. Overall, they sound good. They can be a little harsh on the high end, but toe them in a little bit helps with that.
Thomas, congratulations on another entertaining review, particularly one that a wide range of people can relate to. I've owned both those since they first came out and concur with your experience with each, however, I usually listen to them in a surround setup, but have spent a lot of time pairing them with several amps in stereo application. What I conclude is that the RP series are fundamentally, sound reinforcement speakers, intended to deliver clean dynamics, i.e. fast transition in dB as one would appreciate in an action movie sound effects. When I have used them strictly in stereo, they lack frequency response in the mid band, particularly when played at moderate levels. When belting out sound, they tend to come into better balance through the frequency band (high to low). When playing live music recordings, they can shine nicely over more expensive gear, but they really come together when used in a full 7 or 5 channel setup. The Klipsch center brings out all the missing vocals from the towers or bookshelf types. Then you get true instrument separation with the singer in the middle as in a real live venue. I also own the previous model RF towers with the newest RF center. Although these components are a good bit better than the RP series, the same thing tends to be true. When paired with their center channel, absolutely glorious. Without, as you say, meh. It is simply that the 6.5" and 8" woofers have a significant dB drop off from about 800hz and up, so those speakers rely on the wave guide tweeter (i.e. horn) to pick up the slack. Problem is that those horns only dip down to about 2Khz, thus leaving a void in part of the vocal range. Some think the RP series is warm, but it only seems that way from lack of lower vocal range. The center channel corrects most of this shortcoming. Still, they are a lot of fun, especially for the budget pricing. Won't be using any of my RP gear to replace stereo listening of my Cornwall 3s any time soon though. Cheers Thomas!
Thanks Taz for the clarification. Man I wish I would have spoken to you before I made the review. If I ask for the RF7III, I wonder if I should also ask for the center...
@@ThomasAndStereo Yes, definitely ask for the center RF 64 III, they are great and pairs well with the RF 7 III's..
@@ThomasAndStereo yes, definitely try the center and place the towers as far apart as possible. Even in 3 channel mode, the experience is incredible.
@@CUDAbuster Thanks, I wonder if the 'hole' is the reason why it is so easy to localize the tweeter in the room...
I respect you as a reviewer because you are not snobbish towards Polk Audio LSiM. Many audiophiles dismiss them regardless of price. But these speakers go toe to toe with many others. As an all rounder, and at the current price, it's impossible to beat. You get a lot of speaker for very little $$. And that is a value that you may not beat in a lifetime. Sure you can spend a lot more and get a better speaker but value wise,. this beats everything out there. I paid $1050 for my pair from Adorama, shipped. I will never part with my pair even though i have other more 'higher' end speakers and brands audiophiles would much rather pay attention too. I am keeping these till the drivers rot.
Thanks, and I can tell you the better frontend gear you give it, the better it will scale.
Decided to go for the rp8000f after listening to kefs, bw, ca and all the regulars. By far the best choice.
I have my 8000 RF connected to Audio quest 14 gauge pure copper wire no bananas and Sydney's Rca connectors on a Bie wired fashion Awesome sound clarity and datails
Dear Thomas, thank you for the great content and presentation. I really enjoy watching your videos.
RP800F vs RF7III
Would love to here your thoughts on the RF7III
Another great vid, Thanks Thomas
Thanks, perhaps I can reach out to Klipsch and ask them to send me the RF7 if there is enough interest from others in this comment section.
Can you drop Klispch an email? I will reach out to them too if enough people ask for it.
Comparing the 8000f vs the RF7iii vs the Polk lsim 707 would be a crazy good comparison
It’ll let you see how the klipsch sound improves within their line and how they compare to the Polk lsim which was in the same price bracket.
@perl man The Polk LSIM 707's are very good. But I think the RF 7 III's are absolutely astonishing!!! I'll be asking Klipsch to send Thomas a pair for review, meanwhile over the past months I've posted a few videos demonstrating the RF 7 III's performance. If you like, please check them out. Cheers.
th-cam.com/video/M7_zMnd0p9I/w-d-xo.html
@perl man Agreed. I'd say it all depends on personal preferences and budget😏. But like you, I did a lot of research before settling on the RF 7III's.
If you click on the image on the top left it should take you to the channel where I have a few videos of the RF 7III's performing in my space. Enjoy.
I couldn’t decide between the 2 pairs, so....................I got both, love them!
Yes, I have had klipsch for years starting 1974... don't forget to stack them up. Then turn the volume up and she will join you dancing all night long!
Thanks for posting.
Loved your review, thank you. I’m using Klipsch / REL for a 7.1.4 home theater and Naim/REL for music.
Great channel and a great review! I'm happy I found you. I own the Klipsch RP-280F that came out before the RP800F and they are exactly what you said in the review. That's pretty impressive, you now got a new subscriber. Keep it up!
Welcome aboard!
So many great speakers under 2k right now, I just want all of them in my house, one for each day of the week lol 🤣
he is one of best reviewer on the net, because he gets to point with short video
“I see my wife going, Thomas, what the hell you doing?” Awesome
That might be a good Thing
I've had both the 8000f and 600m as well. I noticed the same thing about the 8000f not disappearing into the room as much as I would've liked. The 600m disappeared much more. I was very happy with the 8000f except for that part, I'm having to decide on what's more important to me between the disappearance of the 600m and the mids/bass of the 8000f.
Hi Richel H are you saying that the 600m disappeared when being played ? And how wide is their sweet spot. Thanks
@@hughd7636 Hey Hugh, yes all the music played through the 600m imaged better, at no time can I tell the music is coming from a speaker, it's all coming from the background/air. I could move all around the room and maintain that so it has very big sweet spot. Where as with the 8000f, unless I was sitting dead center I could notice much more the music was coming from the left/right speaker.
I'm between these two. My main problem is the room. It's big but it's an apartment. I'll be listening to mid level volume music. The 8000 looks huge. Wich is better at low volume? the 8000 or the 600m plus a subwoofer?
Your video quality is getting better and better Thomas, good job!
Thanks, I try!
I’d love to hear about your impressions of Danny Richie’s GR-Research mods for the Klipsch RP-600M speakers if you ever get a chance to hear them. Keep up the fine work!
Yeah, me too! I was drooling when I saw that video!
Can someone out there PLEASE send Thomas a pair of GR-Research-modded RP-600M’s to review? 😊
I've listen to Danny Richie on GR research on the RP 8000f's and I'm confused here's why.
Danny stated the Rp 8000f has a big hole in the middle, tweeter and woofers don't crossover correctly.
But Audioholics Gene D. had his team do the measurements and stated they were awesome. So I'm not sure who to believe, but going on my Sales experience 26yrs. Danny does sell kits, he does state some truth about price pts speaker companies want to hit a exact price pt on each speaker. So cutting costs is the way to get there.
Thanks Thomas for the review it really helped me to plan my home theater
I really enjoy all of your videos. Have been watching all that I can.
Glad you like them!
Been looking at this for some time. Just sold my 21 yr old PSB Stratus Silver Floorstanding and Klipsch pops in my mind everytime I go to London Drugs electronics department. Thanks for the review
I almost LIVE at London drugs! I am literally on a first name basis with staff!
I wanted to say they have bent over backwards for me with honoring expired sales pricing, most recently they honored the sale of the SPL100 sub at $599 vs $799 on 2 separate occasions. They also matched The Bricks pricing on a Klipsch R52C center channel for my wife!
SUCH GREAT SERVICE
Lastly, having seen the Klipsch RP504C on sale somewhere for $750 (reg $999) I made EVERY effort to have someone honor that and that wasn't happening... knowing that Visions sells select RP speakers I pushed & they agreed to sell it at $750+tax!!!
Long and short, KLIPSCH is fantastic, way out performs its price point and deals pop up often!!!
Last thing... when I excitedly arrived home with the RP260F'S (the predisessor to the RP6000) I wanted to hear them so bad that I just quickly hooked them to our center channel in our small theater on our main floor.
I was giddy like a kid seeing a new bike in the living room! Out of a large showroom and in a more easily filled room these BLEW my mind! Clear/Bright & PUNCHY!!!
AMAZINGLY FULL SOUND
GOOD LUCK
Thanks for the video review of one of my favorite brands Thomas.
It would be cool to hear some Klipsch on some $10K front end for sure!
I have never warmed to the Spun Copper Cerametallic™ Woofers since their inception, for my ears it killied the dynamic mid bass.
What would be cool to see you review is the KLIPSCHORN AK6...?
The other side of Klipsch is their pro line cinema speaker that are very cool.
Hi Thomas! Greetings from New Zealand! Just ordered a pair of RP-8000f's a hour ago, after watching your video. Been considering it for a while, but your wife reaction, convinced me its the way to go! :) Crossing fingers they work well with my 12-watt tube amp!
Haha..but don't you guys pay crazy shipping charges at NZ? I was driving the klipsch with a 200w class D amp so I really hope the 12w tube amp can do it! Remember to give it a lot of time to break in.
Just got them! 98db they go super loud. Sounded horrible straight out the box, but everything started to gel after a couple of hours. Happy days!
@@scubalbany Nice, give it about 50 to 100 hours. (Well not playing at low volume) The top end will smoothen out and the bass will get tighter.
You are a very authentic reviewer. Most reviewers would just be saying Klipsch walks on water, but you point out the "brightness" which a lot of people won't like in a speaker. And your favourite speaker is Polk which is a favourite of the top reviewers I notice, although it is a bit of an obscure brand. And you *own* Polk speakers, not just review them for a couple of days.
Can you compare it with rf 7 iii. I want to see if in its own class and worth 1700k a piece
They drive nicely with an 'warmer' Denon AVR-X6200W .. they take a while to run in.... luv em
Thanks again Thomas. I I’ll be replacing some old JBL’s that have EV horns in them. With the Klipsh 8000 F’s was just waiting to see what your take on them was. As always you seem to have come up with the best and most definitive last words on the subject! I hope I have a good enough front end to do them justice in my McIntosh
Well if you have some old JBL horns, I don't think a 8000F will be an upgrade for you. For me, an upgrade is 2 levels up at least. These are still consider budget line.
The smile on your face says all we need to know. Try them with tube gear if you haven't already. My upgraded Klipsch Forte II with my Primaluna Dialogue Premium gear is outstanding. Makes me smile just like you. Thanks for the review as always
Yeah, I need to get myself some tube gears again. I sold everything and I regret it. Yup, you can just tell with my big smile :)
I absolutely love my RP8000F! Glad you like them too. They really do make music fun and enjoyable to listen to! Without any of that old shouty/fatiguing Klipsch sound, that many still think of when they hear about Klipsch.
Ps My goal for getting new speakers was to find something smaller and more design friendly than my old ones, but ending up buying these that are even larger because they sound so well! Haha!
Haha...yeah I know what you mean. If only I had a bigger house...
Hey great review. I was thinking to have the R8000F with RP600M as surrounds as bookshelf speakers can be used as surround. Do you think its a good setup or would you recommend some other surround speakers, if so which one? Also, would you say if I get a good receiver it should give decent bass (with the built in woofers in R8000F) or subwoofer is necessary?
You are an entertaining reviewer, Thomas. I enjoy watching your reviews because I am entertained and I learn a lot from you.
Thomas are you still rocking these giants ? If not where are you sending us for an upgrade ?
"fun" is a word you hear across the board from reviewers about Klipsch speakers.
Yeah, I never understood that until I have a pair of Klipsch at my place.
Thomas & Stereo I have owned Reference 3 A, B&W and Devore speakers. I am seriously thinking about buying a pair of Klipsch (the price is right!), but they seem to have a lot of cheap parts on them (like the steel binding posts), so Im checking with all my dealers now to see if they know anyone who can upgrade the 600ms with new binding posts (WBT) and crossovers and internal wire. (Dueland)
@@estebannemo1957 Well, they have to to reach a certain price point. There are 2 ways to look at it. For me, I find it amazing that they can deliver such an amazing sound with cheap components. Anyone can build a fancy speaker / system when money is no object. We can always improve on something but there is a reason why a speaker is at a certain price point. Usually, from what I gathered, to run a successful business, the cost of the speaker is about 15% of the selling price else the company will go out of business. Why? If you ever ran a business, you will understand all the hidden cost behind. Now, if you want something of more value, then you will have to look at companies that sell direct to customers perhaps. Here is a link to a comment from a manufacturer that will explain it better. A very good read.
www.avsforum.com/forum/89-speakers/1348949-philharmonic-audio-dennis-murphy-279.html#post57933376
@@estebannemo1957 Check out this video series on Ron's channel about upgrading the 600ms: th-cam.com/video/5ifiz6HrFd0/w-d-xo.html
@@Simon-dn9kv Yup, was drooling and would love to hear it.
How are 8000F II different from these... cant wait to have mines.
Cambridge CXA81 with RP8000F sound so lound and clear! I really like my audio system now, and its sounds " bright " , i like it better then the really expensive audio that are to "correct" sounding..
careful with your hearing though, tinnitus is a real bitch
I passed up on the 600m again in favor of the crazy sale price on the
JBL studio 530, I actually wrote you another book comment but I deleted it 😆 didn't wanna bother you with all my rambling lmao. Thanks again the audio Sensei !
Don't delete! I always enjoy reading comments from you. The 530 got many rave reviews and definitely something to consider for the future.
@@ThomasAndStereo did you get to read the comment at all? even after i deleted it, was about 4 paragraphs long lol thank you Thomas
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Yup, it was sent to my email so I did see it. Thanks and keep it there next time! Regarding the R2R Dac, everyone is waiting for it and I have mixed feelings about it, how to review it...
@@ThomasAndStereo I won't delete my comments anymore, I feel you on the mixed feelings when reviewing certain audio gear, theirs just so many pros vs cons its crazy , i'm going threw the same situation Thomas , My last video upload of the IOTAVX that i'm still working on.
THE MULTI-FI-STACK-ATTACK ! And at end of video, i will be doing a comparison, the STACK against The Pioneer Elite Sx-N30, And its very hard to compare , The Stack is more balanced and refined with better dynamics, which leans towards a neutral sound signature , but the Pioneer has that rich powerful sound like a budget Denon integrated 1k amp has , ehaaa both are priced very simular, but the Pioneer sounds amazing with KEF speakers ! And the IOTAVX sounds amazing with all my other speakers . And i'm not a Pioneer fan at all, but the SX-N30 makes Magic with smaller KEF 🔊 ! Its just about finding that synergy theirs no better or best, you and ZF are so correct when you all say that !!! 😆
Did you have a chance to pair them with the Zen triode I was curious you didn't name the amp that you felt was unsuccessful
Nice review Thomas, would of liked to see them hooked up to tube front end. I like your unique way of describing how equipment sounds.First review of 2020, Happy New Year & keep up the good work!
Thanks, happy new year. I need to get a tube integrated Amp again. I sold all mine.
Thanks heaps for the detailed review Thomas!! Which sound did you prefer more between the IOTAVX stack or Yamaha WXA50 with the Klipsch's?
I like it with the WXA50 more BUT with an external DAC.
Hello, what wall stands do you jave at 1:43 and will those fit the rp600m in that 90 degrees position? Thanks!
Another great time listening to your thoughts and stories Thomas! Props on step-in up the video quality and shots. I really enjoyed the one big shot of the front setup panning down.. good stuff man.
I have been going back and forth on this same question all year debating between the RP600M due to all the reviews and from some short listening sessions but in the back of my mind I always wondered if bigger would mean better.
I ultimately got lucky enough to hear the 8000F and was blown away but also missed that instrument separation and detail of the RP600M just like you did. So what to do? I purchased the RP 4000F! It seems to be the forgotten child of the lineup because I bought them for an absolute steal brand new, less than the RP600Ms!
I am hoping it will l split the difference and give me that just right Goldilocks experience. I have to admit I am worried that the small drivers may hold it back but the small cabinet for a floor stander really intrigued me and it goes deeper than the RP600M, with maybe even more control due to the small drivers? Thats the hope anyway still need to set up this week hopefully I'll let you know! Keep up the great work it doesn't go unnoticed. Glad you are sticking with it!
Yes, please let me know and appreciate the well-written comment.
My room is small maybe the r 82f are they good? but I like these 8000f my front is a emotiva bas X A3 with the Denon avc x4 700h and 4 basx A2s for the other 8 channels
Hey, Thomas! I do really need Your help here.
I was planning to buy 8000 for fronts, 6000 for rears, 504 for center, and some vented SVS or Arendal sub. The room is pretty small (~20 sq.m.) and music/movies 70/30.
But now we got a damn war here. So, I'm not sure I will reach financially that setup.
How do You think, maybe I should consider RP-600m for fronts and rears, 504 for center and 2 sealed subs instead? Or it's better to stick to original setup still (just, probably, to substitute rears for RP-600m instead of RP-6000)?
For me, the back speakers are just for effect so any speakers will do. The most important is to get the front 3 speakers right.
So Thomas what were the other two speakers that gave you that feeling?
Great review! Thank you very much. Could you please do a video on how to soundtreat a room? I would like to know how to treat my room. I know about basstraps, diffusors, acoustic panels and all that good stuff but I really can’t find any information on how to place them/install them/how many I need for a room. I tend to go overkill most of the times so I really need some guidance in how many basstraps/diffusors/acoustic panels I need for any given room, I know everyone is different and what works for someone doesn’t work for another but I would like some rules of thumb or just some guidance… I hope you can make a video on this 🙏🏼❤️
th-cam.com/video/lJyaXdc6RX0/w-d-xo.html
@@ThomasAndStereo thank you!
Just what I was thinking,, come on Thomas, treat us, , no pun int,,
Regards Antony,, Warrington...
RF7III next?? Great review. Thanks for the honesty
Thanks, if enough people want it, sure. Can you drop Klispch an email? I will reach out to them too if enough people ask for it.
Yeah I’m curious how these stack up against the new RF7iii? I’ve owned the RF7ii in the past and felt they didn’t have magic with music. But when I purchased a pair of RP160m for my wife’s office, I was shocked how musical they were. Then I heard the new RP-600m and I was blown away. My Klipsch dealer was concerned the direction Klipsch would be taking when they were acquired by Audiovox (I assuming it happened). Wow Klipsch has really stepped up their game! They are no longer just good for movies but great for music now! Would love to hear your thoughts on the newer RF7iii. I have yet to audition those. Thank you!
Yeah, if it is way better than the RP8000F, it could be the end game speaker for many.
Hi there my friend has a plan to pair 8000s with Rotel RA-14. Do you think its a good match?
I have the klipsch rp-280fa I only bought them because I got a good price on them... I was always a def tech guy.. bp20s bp2000 studio monitors 450s and I have to say I really really like the klipsch!!!
What has better sound stage klipsch rp-8000f or the elac UniFi 2.0 uf52
Probably a crazy question, but any thoughts to these compared with the Tekton DI? Klipsch much more in the budget and I've wanted them for a while. I'm also seriously intrigued about the tekton, just not sure if additional price would be easy to realize
Budget speakers nowadays aren't made in house but are built off-country to specifications with lower labor costs. Snobs might consider these to be more ephemeral than the in-house built ones.
Hi Thomas. Thank you for that video!
I did By-Amp them. Big different then, better and stronger. But i miss really the middles.
My setup: Yamaha RX-A 3080 - Denon POA 2800 - Setup 9.1. Subwoofer is a Boston Accoustic SW10.
My own made 3-Way-Speaker have more "clearance".
BTW, by unboxing --> open top and bottom, so you can push it out of the box. ;o)
By from Roly - switzerland.
I also feel that my RB81ii are missing mid's. I purchased a center speaker - rp504c and now I can hear mids finally. Maybe a smaller woofer is better in this regard?
I tried the Klipsch Rp280s without Bi wiring, i didn't like the sound as much as when i did Bi wired them. Separated the instruments, then recently Bi Amped them. Crossovered at 80hrz sent bass to sub, 300watts just feeds the highs n mids. Like it way more now, but also made some dyi wires ofc 12 awg x 3.
Amazing sound to me. Enjoy.
Hi Thomas, I'm new to the hifi scene and I'm building my first 5.1 setup. I'm currently looking at the 8000f as my main speakers and I have one quick question, does it pair well with the Denon X1600H?
Sorry need heard that Denon
Thank you for the comparison. I currently have a pair of RP-4000F which I love. Would the RP-600M be upgrade at all? Already have a subwoofer.
Thomas, I am looking to purchase the klipsch RP 8000 and 600m set for home theater. Looking for a receiver with pre-out for future addon. Meanwhile, thinking about Denon 3700H or a cheaper Onkyo TXRZ730. Which of the 2 would you think matches better with the klipsch? Or any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Hi Thomas, I have old PSB Century 800i tower speakers. I am not an audiophile. Will these Klipsch RP800F be a major upgrade for me?
I think you would need to go higher end for a true upgrade. Whenever I upgrade, I jump at least 2 levels up, one level is not enough.
Hey Thomas!! I am going to ATMOS here soon..I’ve been WANTING the 8000 , but realize that the 8026s ARE THAT SAME SOEAKER with just the ATMOS topper, SO:
Since there are NO PLACES TO LISTEN anymore, I’m counting on “SOUND” 😂 ADVICE from you on this, as I have a pair of 20 yr. old KLF10s that STILL HOLD THEIT OWN!! I’d like your opinion as to which Klipsch WILL SOUND EVEN BETTER than my 10’s, as NOW I’m even considering the 7-IIIs too, as they’re a 10” woofer, like mine! Will the 8000 PLAY & SOUND BETTER than my KLFs? Do you think the 8026 is a better deal (as I DO want to go full on ATMOS!) than the 8000s OR the 7-IIIs?
I need your help, brother!
Thanks in advance and I sure enjoy your videos!!
Al
Hello Thomas, thanks for the excellent review.
Am considering these speakers to go with my Marantz model 30 amplifier. Buying them online, hence cannot audition them before buying.
Would it be a good match for this amp? My genre of music is Classic rock, jazz, blues....
Thanks in advance.
I personally like it but keep in mind it does have a V curve so the positive is it is very lively and fun, the downside is not all instruments in the presentation will have the same presence. I have not heard the Model 30 so I don't know its sound signature.
Which one would you choose between the rb 280fa or the 8000f ? They are both same price !
Sorry, never heard the 280f
Hey Thomas, how would these compare both RP models, to the LS50W? Thinking of grabbing something for an NYC apartment. Currently don't own any front end so that's something i'm considering
Not sure your budget or preference style but I like my Klipsch 280f paired with the Yamaha aventage 880 which is laid back. Be prepared for long break in period and hard time getting room correction and placement exactly how you like it unless you're more skilled with it than I was.
Last week JBL had the studio 570 for $200 each. I thought that was a good buy so my brother bought a pair. I have the 580 and they're pretty good, too.
Elac ub5 is neutral, kinda boring in my opinion but easy to listen to for long periods of time.
You might find something you like better. I recommend cheap audio man if you're budget is tight.
Hi there,
I’m looking at purchasing these to go with SPL-150. Would this be overkill bass wise? Should I just stick to 6000f instead since my bass is being taken care of the subwoofer? Horns are identical to both models so just missing out on bass being produced by 8” woofers. Thanks.
Thomas, I have a home theater with an acoustically transparent screen, I have two svs subwoofers that I am very happy with, as well as 2 klipsch r-26f floor standing, keeping in mind the subwoofers are a very flat response and integrate seamlessly with a lot of speakers, should I go with the klipsch rp600m as my left right and center? my room is only 12 by 18 feet, would it even be worth getting the floorstanding?
RP280F vs RP8000F since both are bluetooth wireless, which would be more future proof for compatibility with others into a full HT system?
Thanks Thomas I got the RP 8000F last week... I felt good ordering from Amazon with your review. I love them so far.... you mention the break in period ... how long do you think that is. I really appreciate your fun and informative videos. Jerry. OH it's on an 80 watt NAD.
Great you are enjoying them. I would say at least 30 hours for it to smooth a bit and ideally 100 hours.
Thomas, i have the previous version RP-280F pairing it with emotiva G2 5-ch amp, i dont seem to get much bass from it. Since its similar with 8000F, i assume it the same. Any advice on why i am not getting enough bass or should i say that i am not feeling sufficient bass from it. And any way to make it more punchy? thanks. I got the RC-64 III as the center, and i feel much more punchy bass from it. ???
Probably placement/seating position issue.
Value-for-money today is off the charts. It's FAR better today than ever. Even within the last 5 years, everything has gotten much better for the money. Tracking this over the last 45 years, it wasn't always like this - at all. This can be said about a lot of things today.
Yup, so true.
Is there any difference between the 8000f and the rp 280 besides cosmetic changes?
Sorry, never heard the rp280.
Hello Thomas, I'm thinking to go for a Klipsch setup in my living room. Probably going for the RP-6000f @ the front and some RP-500SA in the back. I love music as well movies. I have 3 questions: 1. Should I buy an av receiver like a Marantz NR1710 or just stick to a amp like your Yamaha. I like when the audio sounds full and compleet on lower volume. 2. How do the klipsch Rp 600m bookshelf speakers on stands compare to the RP-6000f like in your video??
3. What do you mean with a good frond end amp and what is the use for an extra external amp. I'm new in the audio scene 🙈 right now I'm just using basic old stuf like a Kenwood ka-5020 amp and some JBL LX1000. It's your video's that inspire me to invest in some new setup. Thx Thomas!!
The thing is if you are going for 5.1, you will need a receiver. I don't know anything about Marantz. I would think the same logic would apply with the RP6000F but less mid bass, I would assume it would be someone coherent the drivers but can't tell unless I hear them.
External amp is great but not necessary, it is only when you play with higher end setup that the benefit really shows. At this level, a good integrated should be fine. I don't know if these RP6000F will be a true upgrade from you JBL LX1000 because those speakers look pretty good. I always say, if you are going to upgrade, jump 2 levels up and not one.
Been waiting for this - thanks as always Thomas!
Hope it is not bad for your wallet :)
@@ThomasAndStereo Heh, I can always get a new wallet - not a problem. The wife however...:)
Thank you for a great review Thomas, regards, Antony, Warrington...
Hi Thomas,
I’m wondering if the RP600M would sound good on a vintage Kenwood KR 7600 receiver. I hope to replace the big old floor speakers from the late 70s early 80s. The receiver has been refreshed ,for many more years. Thanks for your time.
Thanks for the question but I never tried it with vintage gear so I don't know.
Did you have a chance to run them around the block with the Class D mono blocks? That type of pairing would leave more $ on the table for the Musical Paradise or Denefrips DAC...
I did try with Classe and it sounded great.
@@ThomasAndStereo Not the CLASSE D220, but the 'DIY' class D mono blocks....sorry to bug
Would still like to hear your impression of the Wharfedale Linton vs EVO 4.2 vs EVO 4.3 vs EVO 4.4.
Possibly with HEGEL or Belles Aria amplification.
If they reach out to me, I will definitely review it. If you can send them an email, it will help me.
Thomas great review, thank you. Are the 8000 detailed ? Like close to focal details ? Thanks
Can you provide more details on your speaker mounts and stands? I love them and am looking for some.
They are from amazon the home theater mounts on the side. The stand mounts stand are BBC stands but from 20 years ago.
Thomas what do you think of 8000f pairing with Macintosch MA6500? I am mostly into hard rock and loud music. Currently, i run a Mac with Paradigm SE monitor 8000f and the results are no good at all...
Sorry I would not know. What is wrong with the 8000f? Too bright?
@@ThomasAndStereo no power at all. Sharpness and clarity is basically non existing. The sound is like it's coming from a well. On jazz, acoustics etc is let say decent, but with heavier music everything just falls apart. Was really expecting more from Paradigm...
@@ivanlovrincevic5868 Asking just incase, the treble and bass on your amp, is it set to the middle? Have you tried increasing the treble?
@@ThomasAndStereo yes, all is in the middle. I have tried to tweak everything left and right, but not much difference...i think if the speakers are good it should sound good with everything in the middle...
@@ivanlovrincevic5868 Yeah, its too bad. Have you tried changing to 4 or 8 ohm? So even if the treble set to maximum, there is not much difference? Strange in the sense Mcintosh treble control should have a very big impact, whether a good or bad impact is a different story, but it should be very noticeable.
What are your thoughts compared to the acoustic energy 309's or 509's?
Wonderful review, I am planning to get 8000F pair, what is an ideal centre speaker for this? Can I use my Paradigm 7.1 CT cinema with these speakers, for surround and ceiling Atmos? What is ideal 11 channel AVR for this?
They should have the matching center channel. I think it is this one, check with them.
www.klipsch.ca/products/rp-500c-center-channel-speaker
@@ThomasAndStereo Thanks, but i can use these as atmos and surround right? which 11 channel AVR do you suggest to use with these?
And what are the klipsch rp8000f in comparison with focal aria 926? I know that you tested the focal.
Well focal are more refined, less fun bass but quicker. The tweeter is really detail with the focal Completely different sound. One is about dynamic, the other is about detail and speed.
@@ThomasAndStereo Thanks.
I have an SVS pb-1000 and am questioning how much sense it would make to pair a floor standing speaker like the 8000f with a subwoofer, should I just go with a bookshelf instead, for a small room?
You will probably get a bigger sense of scale with the 8000F over the bookshelves.
My gf loves the Pink/Nate duet. I have heard it 4 times in the last month. I have it going through 2 canton le290/2 klipsch rp160m/svspb12/klipsch sw112 and a onkyo nr709/sr603 zone2. The vocals are top notch.
Hi, I am looking at the video and learned a lot of things. I have many questions because I wanted to hear your opinion about which speakers to get under a budget of $3000. I am living in a 34pyeong apartment now, but I am worried about choosing the appropriate speakers for the living room. Because I'm flowered in Klipsch.. I'd like to hear which one you recommend!
Thank you
Great work! Loved this comparison. I'm in a dilemma, should I buy R-820F's or the RP-8000F's? The 8000's are double priced
I’ve had both and kept the 280Fs because they aren’t quite as bright imo. Running them off of a marantz 6013 Avr and Emotiva xpa3 for front stage. 504c center. And I don’t like the copper trim rings they incorporated in the newer model.
@@TheDoozie43 I'm choosing between 280 and 8000. Thanks for Your opinion. But that man 👆had been asking for difference between 820 and 8000 (Reference line vs Reverence Premiere).
Great video and useful info too. How would you rate the Klipsch Reference Series R-620F? I find that there is low volume of bass with these and i needed to add a sub. Should these put out more than im experiencing or they more aimed at the sound of the mids and highs? Thanks
Thanks, I have never heard the R620F.
How does it compare to a b&w 800d3 series? I know it's a lot of price difference but I'm in the running for one of both.
Hi Thomas i got myself a kanta n2 and yes it sounded much brighter than my current Kef R700 which i like it been burning it throughout the weekends
It will eventually tone down the brightness but it will still be way more than the R700. Congrats.
Can you recommend a good budget subwoofer ? Happy new year from Montpellier, France
Sadly after I tried the REL subs, I hear the difference between budget and quality sub so it is hard for me to recommend. If you need it for music, ideally something that is sealed.
I don't like subwoofers (I prefer 3 ways), but NHT making great and not expensive subwoofers.
www.amazon.com/NHT-SS-10-10-inch-Subwoofer-Laminate/dp/B019C5LY7G/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=nht+subwoofer&qid=1578521841&s=electronics&sr=1-1
Hi Thomas - I'm about to buy the RP600M, but I am not sure what streamer to pair it with. The main use for the speakers is to stream HD music from Amazon Music. Or should I go with the RW-51M due to its bluetooth connectivity? Could you please help me out?
You can also look at The Fives from Klipsh and I will be reviewing it soon.
@@ThomasAndStereo Thomas, I'm not considering the Hives because I like how the bronze color of the woofers on the 600m look.
Is there any chance you could recommend the correct streamer to pair the 600m with, one that doesn't cost a fortune please???
Thank you very much in advance!
I listen to rock. I had sounds systems that cost me from 10k to 50k. Until one day I sold everything and got some kliptch and marantz amp. The sound was much better and the cost much lower than all my ex expensive systems.
How can this be even possibile? Either you used to throw away money in bad gear or...?
@@daftpaolo I sold all the rest for a crazy price. Lol. I guess metal and rock does not go well with high costly speakers and amp. Was no dynamic and bass.
@@pauloalexandre-dd4nl got it. These Klipsch seem like they’re perfect for that
I ask you Where is your soround speaker this rp 600m that is your soround speaker???
Thomas how would these sound paired with my new Willsenton R8 and Gold Lion KT-88’s? Thanks!
Should sound good.
room is 10 x 11 feet, so quite small...amp is Naim SN3...is Klipsch 8000f too big for room?
I have both, the 8000's are awesome! VERY picky on placement and amplification, and correct they scale really well. I improved Base definition by leaning foam wall treatment at a 45deg angle against the speakers rear port.
Hola, valen la pena comprar los RP600M?
A conclusion would be easy to reach that says the 280f has not good or bad bass definition or that the bass is hummy (box resonance). On the speaker's own it probably does have bass issues but if you used ypao room correction, it will fix that bass right up on the 280f. The bass is clean and powerful in my system with the 280f.