For all my competitive players. You should Veiler Ice 100% of the time if you open two hand traps. Holding those low impact hand traps only beats Dugares. Ice alone sets up the rank 4 to protect duo. Veiler, simper and mourner loses to Blast Dragon and Ash, Nib ogre also lost to Traptrix. So if you only have 1-2 of the low impacts throw them at the ice because the second one can cover the duo if they don’t have the 2nd extender. If you hold you lose 100% of the time
@@TheDBGrinder bro what? What’s the point in holding an Imperm, ash or Veiler? Holding it for game 2?? If you just have Veiler just throw it at the Ice or you can never use it.
@@wisdom3416 really really easy. crossout designator. they’ll save the crossout to protect duodrive no matter what so ash + veiler sequence should be ash to duodrive, they chain crossout, you chain veiler or imperm. same thing with ghost ogre + imperm/veiler. not to mention it could be a way to play into talent really early to veiler the ice and they just rip your engine and play around your remaining interaction or rip your interaction and plan the end board according to your engine. and in the case they don’t have crossout, you are literally better off holding that additional hand trap. if it’s ash + imperm and they have no crossout and have to end on detonator with no cross or plugin to back it, you get to imperm the detonator and deal with the board. if it’s ash + veiler, then that veiler could be a card useful for the grind or in the worst case scenario discard fodder. why would you just throw away cards LMAO
To be honest, with the sheer amount of non engine people are playing, doing stuff like Ashing a Bonfire might be correct, just off the very real chance that it ends their then
these decks also play 3 crossout and 3 desires along with 1 prosperity as well usually s the chance they don’t have an extender or defensive card for a bonfire getting ash’s is too high for the risk the other thing to factor in is that any hand where their only play is bonfire and ash doesn’t get hit with crossout means that’s 4 hand traps in hand. meaning that going next, we need to make sure we have 5 cards of all gas ourselves to cover it. as such, there aren’t many hands where trading an ash with a bonfire make sense. even if we have another with it, everyone is on crossout meaning the optimal way to play is to hit their duodrive with ash, they crossout, and then your next hand trap can usually cover it like a veiler or imperm which we play 3 of each in this deck. and if they don’t have crossout for it, they play heavily into nib and the possibility of our remaining hand trap being an imperm that contends with the detonator on the following turn completely as they don’t have reliable access to plug-in to play through it. the other thing is imagine you’re not playing the mirror match. imagine you’re playing fire king which has less room for non engine. you want the hand traps you use to be high impact and at the point that is least punishable. you have to rely on your engine being able to beat their engine, even though diabellstar especially plays horribly into detonator.
Returning player here !! I quit around the time imperm was released and people were saying that it would be out of the format within a couple seasons. Now look what we have here in 2024. Imperm is still viable. I knew all along it would be a card that would have longevity.
if you play the trap, you have the opportunity to setup a bagooska on their turn by using plugin. you can often end on Detanator + body with plugin set and then use the plugin to summon out another card, giving you follow up, and attaching the trap to your detonator. then you can detach the trap when it’s relevant either for a cross negate or a detonator pop or a detonator protect, and then after that you have an opportunity at any time to xyz into bagooska using your trap in GY.
Chaining imperm to book of eclipse doesn't do anything unless I'm missing the chain link order. If a monster is flipped face down no matter what effects are trying to effect the card the card will resolve with effect facedown
if they want to play around it, they can make sure to keep an ex/ice/node in hand. In very rare cases, it could be great but its probably not worth running.
I think Number 103: Ragnazero should be played over Light Dragon @Ignister. You're almost always summoning it while you have Duo Drive, and in the mirror, its quick effect is insane vs your opponent's Duo Drive
another issue is that your duo usually gets negated so you cant even pop anything with ragnazero. also you need light dragon ignister to out nib tokens.
I’m confused about the freakout over not using Deadnader not protect? It couldn’t use effect to protect since Ty-phon on board. Or am I missing something simple here? Don’t know the deck yet so figure I’d ask
Normally yes, but since Detonator was on chain after Eclipse, Imperm will negate, then Detonator will pop Thode, so then it won't "forget an applied imperm" via being facedown because it never became facedown.
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For all my competitive players. You should Veiler Ice 100% of the time if you open two hand traps. Holding those low impact hand traps only beats Dugares. Ice alone sets up the rank 4 to protect duo.
Veiler, simper and mourner loses to Blast Dragon and Ash, Nib ogre also lost to Traptrix.
So if you only have 1-2 of the low impacts throw them at the ice because the second one can cover the duo if they don’t have the 2nd extender.
If you hold you lose 100% of the time
yeah follow what this guy said if you wanna be in the side events early !
@@TheDBGrinder LMAOO
@@TheDBGrinder db my goat 🐐
@@TheDBGrinder bro what? What’s the point in holding an Imperm, ash or Veiler? Holding it for game 2?? If you just have Veiler just throw it at the Ice or you can never use it.
@@wisdom3416 really really easy. crossout designator. they’ll save the crossout to protect duodrive no matter what so ash + veiler sequence should be ash to duodrive, they chain crossout, you chain veiler or imperm. same thing with ghost ogre + imperm/veiler.
not to mention it could be a way to play into talent really early to veiler the ice and they just rip your engine and play around your remaining interaction or rip your interaction and plan the end board according to your engine.
and in the case they don’t have crossout, you are literally better off holding that additional hand trap. if it’s ash + imperm and they have no crossout and have to end on detonator with no cross or plugin to back it, you get to imperm the detonator and deal with the board.
if it’s ash + veiler, then that veiler could be a card useful for the grind or in the worst case scenario discard fodder.
why would you just throw away cards LMAO
Set isn’t even released yet and I’m already tired of the mirror
I was going to say the same
Just play tenpai and HT the duodrive
I feel like any usual tenpai hand just destroys this deck 🤣@@Kurohige93
Mirrors fun wtf you on about? A skillful and fun mirror is boring to you?
What’s skillful about saving my handtraps for one card and praying they dont have crossout, called by or hard open field spell?
The money matches are really popping off
its literally all day everyday lmaooooooooo
You don’t learn that kind of stuff on the spreadsheet is touggghhhhhhhh lmao
DB cooking
Can we see some good Maliss games please? 😢
That’s what I’m after too
“i get it you don’t learn that type of stuff on the spreadsheet” LMAOOOO
Trif taking that easy money from Peter griffin
"Im better" grinder spitting facts!
18:40 that’s the adderall talking.
😂😂😂
am i gonna need to take a drug test , WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE THINK I TAKE DRUGS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@@TheDBGrinderbecause you do fam. Just own it. 😂
@@joshy5lo im literally FULL sober i dont do any kinda drugs , i even quit nic recently
@@TheDBGrinder W 👑
They are turning it into Bagooska turbo lmaoo
To be honest, with the sheer amount of non engine people are playing, doing stuff like Ashing a Bonfire might be correct, just off the very real chance that it ends their then
you get punished REALLY hard by a lot of cards
these decks also play 3 crossout and 3 desires along with 1 prosperity as well usually s the chance they don’t have an extender or defensive card for a bonfire getting ash’s is too high for the risk
the other thing to factor in is that any hand where their only play is bonfire and ash doesn’t get hit with crossout means that’s 4 hand traps in hand. meaning that going next, we need to make sure we have 5 cards of all gas ourselves to cover it.
as such, there aren’t many hands where trading an ash with a bonfire make sense. even if we have another with it, everyone is on crossout meaning the optimal way to play is to hit their duodrive with ash, they crossout, and then your next hand trap can usually cover it like a veiler or imperm which we play 3 of each in this deck. and if they don’t have crossout for it, they play heavily into nib and the possibility of our remaining hand trap being an imperm that contends with the detonator on the following turn completely as they don’t have reliable access to plug-in to play through it.
the other thing is imagine you’re not playing the mirror match. imagine you’re playing fire king which has less room for non engine. you want the hand traps you use to be high impact and at the point that is least punishable. you have to rely on your engine being able to beat their engine, even though diabellstar especially plays horribly into detonator.
Returning player here !! I quit around the time imperm was released and people were saying that it would be out of the format within a couple seasons. Now look what we have here in 2024. Imperm is still viable. I knew all along it would be a card that would have longevity.
imper is one of the best ht that is played together with veiler which is even older.
What channel in colloseum can i find how matches work? I dont see anything on how to get a middleman, what payment system to use etc
#middleman info - is the channel. but you have to ask your opponent what they have and you just ask for middleman
Trying to get better here, so is there a specific scenario to making bagooska going first? Sometimes i can but just choose duodrive deadnator..
if you play the trap, you have the opportunity to setup a bagooska on their turn by using plugin. you can often end on Detanator + body with plugin set and then use the plugin to summon out another card, giving you follow up, and attaching the trap to your detonator. then you can detach the trap when it’s relevant either for a cross negate or a detonator pop or a detonator protect, and then after that you have an opportunity at any time to xyz into bagooska using your trap in GY.
it really depends on what you have but sometimes you just skip deadnadder and make gooska
I feel like I’m the only one who loves watching how people play Ryzeal
The mirror match feels more like the better player won
ye i feel like its that way for now but soon its gonna be VERY toxic , once its more solved its gonna be rough to play infinite ryzeal mirrors
Chaining imperm to book of eclipse doesn't do anything unless I'm missing the chain link order. If a monster is flipped face down no matter what effects are trying to effect the card the card will resolve with effect facedown
you are missing something , the monster is being popped so it wont go face down
Honestly, ive been learning a lot about the mirror thanks to your content, gives me perspective, thanks for da content
Sacco not believing in Maliss.
Cause he doesn’t know the deck
@HinbunEZ He did a combo video on it.
notably so did trif
@@Daniel-ne5ms db said his spreadsheet Maliss combos were mid
That rant 19 minutes in was great
Does Ryzeal have a way to out flying C or is cooked like zoodiac have to hard open barrage type beat?
Ice and Node complicate things, or Ext into Mereologic
@@RenrenYGO Ty for the response
if they want to play around it, they can make sure to keep an ex/ice/node in hand. In very rare cases, it could be great but its probably not worth running.
22:34 man pass over effect veiler to assert dominance 😭
I think Number 103: Ragnazero should be played over Light Dragon @Ignister. You're almost always summoning it while you have Duo Drive, and in the mirror, its quick effect is insane vs your opponent's Duo Drive
it doenst always work tho , they can also summon in def to play around it
another issue is that your duo usually gets negated so you cant even pop anything with ragnazero. also you need light dragon ignister to out nib tokens.
I'm convinced, we need a dbgrinder masterclass for the deck because some of these plays just weren't it
Blue player probably needs a spreadsheet to tie his shoes.
If you dont win anaheim of the way you been talking, idk what imma do
im not going sadly : (
@@TheDBGrinder i’ll win it for you
Can you protect with dread even of ty-phoon is on board ?
yeah doesnt activate
Poor Lucas lol Let em know Grinder!!!
Ryzeal seems weak in a format where snake eye variants are still around.
Crossout at 3 is so toxic
18:38 "I don't make mistakes, I'm not like the rest of you, I'm stronger, I'm smarter, I'm better, I AM BETTER" 🗿
Is it just me or is Ryzeal boring to watch?
not yet but it’ll get there jajajaja
I’m confused about the freakout over not using Deadnader not protect? It couldn’t use effect to protect since Ty-phon on board. Or am I missing something simple here? Don’t know the deck yet so figure I’d ask
it doesn't activate so ty-phon doesn't prevent it
@12:00 Isn't Imperm useless? Eclipse would set the monster anyway, so both Imperm and Mourner would stop applying when Thode tried to resolve.
Normally yes, but since Detonator was on chain after Eclipse, Imperm will negate, then Detonator will pop Thode, so then it won't "forget an applied imperm" via being facedown because it never became facedown.
@@HakuaZRThanks for clearing this up! I was so confused near the end there
Why didnt he veiler the drive after using ash ?
The photon xyz makes it so other xyzs can’t be targeted
EXT RYZEAL
NODE RYZEAL
DETONATOR
SCARED OF TCG NAMES😂
Lucas Sacco sure piped down fast xD
Can the guy protect under typhoons ability? Im a noob sorry.
yeah it doesnt activate
DB grinder out here calling himself the main character 😂😂😂… it’s gonna be true
Don’t crash out cuz, they ain’t worth it 😭
too late , i live in the crash out phase now
Thank you
Money match Lucas vs dB grinder
do more of these
17:23 ty phon eff negate 3000 plus attack
its not negate, its prevent activation. and detonator protect isnt activate effect
it's not an activated effect so they could still protect
Noob
@@GutsmanLoL tell him bro
rant grinder goated
When DBG money matching Trif Gaming?
the sean pittman match it was me and sean vs trif and the bozo discord
😂
Please more matches milking Trif
Free bread for you
never stop talking crazy it's hilarious
#THEHYPE!!!
Hey DB Grinder, are you apart of Team Inspire?
yeah
im free...
I know why you don't post the decks in the titles, but it's annoying af
Db Grinder certified yapper.
Sacco never plays clean lmao
These mirror matches really do be what non engine do you think your opponent has. Also tired of seeing main deck cross outs.
Man your funny 😆
Bubooska
someone make a fire image of lucas pls… that current one makes the thumbnail so goofy 😩
boring
1st my nigga 🦖🦕
😂😂
Trif struggling vs Lucas Sacoo who has apparently never played a game with Ryzeal cards yet is crazy
Lucas knows the deck
@@HinbunEZ Did we watch the same video? This is definitely an older replay or something because bro was playing terrible
@@HinbunEZ not well when he let ty-phon swing and resolve the bounce eff