What do you think about them being a for-profit school and how that relates to what people consider a low quality education? A lot of places don’t recognize for-profit school degrees even though they really should considering the accreditation but was hoping you could talk about that some? I’ve been following your entire journey and you were the inspiration that pushed me to get a bachelors and masters from WGU. Would be interested in hearing what you have to say about it
Hey Jearrod, thanks for leaving a comment. It's a good question too. I'll give you a lot to think about in this post in case I don't make a video on the topic. Here you go: I think labeling not-for-profit schools as "good" and for-profit universities as "bad" is overly simplistic. As someone who has worked at a well-respected publicly-funded research university for over ten years, I can attest that no institution is perfect. Even public universities face challenges and bureaucratic hurdles. Institutions like WGU, which are technically non-profit but operate more like corporations, have shown to deliver quality education that is accessible and affordable. Personally, having completed two master's degrees at WGU, I received a lot of amazing personalized educational support compared to other institutions I studied at. South College's CBE doctoral degrees are very similar to WGU, and they offer accredited programs. Based on research and conversations with numerous current students, I found that they all have positive things to say about their experience there. This satisfaction may stem from a shared value for competency-based education. Unfortunately, there's a major gap in the postsecondary world when it comes to this approach, except for a few institutes. Most publicly-funded universities still employ old-fashioned and traditional teaching methods. Lectures with hundreds of students and outdated content are all too common, often at a high cost. For me, pursuing a CBE doctorate at a for-profit institution is less risky and more affordable compared to a non-funded doctorate at a conventional and publicly-funded postsecondary. It provides flexibility and cost savings. However, everyone's circumstances and needs are unique, so it's important to do a personal risk analysis and consider factors like budget, time commitment, desired academic rigor, and teaching and learning preferences. I should note that that indicators of quality education can vary, and not-for-profit status doesn't guarantee excellence, nor does for-profit status imply a lack of excellence. Prospective students should define their own criteria for quality, taking into account factors such as type of assignments, supports, structures for learning, instructors, and learning modalities and formats. "Structures for learning" refers to how the education is organized and designed, and "learning modalities and formats" are the specific ways instruction is delivered and students are engaged. When it comes to employers' views on for-profit institutes, I've found that they rarely ask for specific details about the institutions I attended. Surprisingly, they don't seem to care much about the when, where, what, and why of my studies. And I'm not focused on certain academic or research positions that heavily emphasize where I studied. It's worth noting that many jobs where I live don't actually require a doctoral degree. I'm pursuing doctoral studies for lifelong learning. Hope that gives you some food for thought!
@@lifebyjustin Thank you for taking the time out to give such a thoughtful reply. I see where you are coming from but I also don’t have too much experience in many job settings since I’ve mostly just worked for myself for most of my life. I think you have changed my mind on south college but I’d definitely be interested in watching your story play out a bit before enrolling. I have mulled over so many programs my brain doesn’t even want to think of it anymore but I’ve pretty much narrowed it down to Purdue global and South college. The way you are able to break down and explain things makes it much easier to really understand what a program is like and I’d like to follow in your footsteps given you have a positive experience. I would be pursuing a doctorate for self fulfillment and to come out on the other side with a complete and whole understanding of education and leadership, so I feel the way you explained your understanding really resonated with me. Thanks for always being there👍 I ended up relaying your videos so many times to get motivated and your perspective and tips have been the most encouraging tool I’ve had while going back to school. Never stop
@@Jearrod Thanks for your encouraging comment! I really appreciate it. I'm glad that my reply provided you with some insights, and I'm glad that you want to follow along on my journey. I should mention that it's important to remember that pursuing a doctoral degree isn't the right path for everyone, so it's great to have a personal reason for furthering your education. If you're currently at the undergraduate or master's level, I would also recommend considering WGU and UMPI as they are gerat options (I don't believe South College offers those competency-based education options yet). Choosing a program can be overwhelming with so many different opinions on what's considered "good." I'll be honest and share my impressions as I navigate through this process. So, stay tuned for updates! Thanks again for your support!
Absolutely! He's very helpful when it comes to helping both prospective and current students. We've been in contact, and he knows that I create videos to share South College information with my audience. He's helped me clarify a few points to relay onward. To those reading this comment, search out and chat with Dr. Michael Patrick with up-to-date program info. As of right now, he seems to have the interest in and capacity for answering CBE program-related questions.
Cool! And no specific document to share, but try searching "EdD South College Catalog" on Google for past catalogs with course info. Or try contacting enrollment services at the Knoxville Campus for a Program Handbook. Dr. Michael Patrick currently leads the program; so feel free to search for his email through the South College site to contact him directly as another option. He might have a Program Handbook to share.
What do you think about them being a for-profit school and how that relates to what people consider a low quality education?
A lot of places don’t recognize for-profit school degrees even though they really should considering the accreditation but was hoping you could talk about that some?
I’ve been following your entire journey and you were the inspiration that pushed me to get a bachelors and masters from WGU. Would be interested in hearing what you have to say about it
Hey Jearrod, thanks for leaving a comment. It's a good question too. I'll give you a lot to think about in this post in case I don't make a video on the topic. Here you go:
I think labeling not-for-profit schools as "good" and for-profit universities as "bad" is overly simplistic. As someone who has worked at a well-respected publicly-funded research university for over ten years, I can attest that no institution is perfect. Even public universities face challenges and bureaucratic hurdles.
Institutions like WGU, which are technically non-profit but operate more like corporations, have shown to deliver quality education that is accessible and affordable. Personally, having completed two master's degrees at WGU, I received a lot of amazing personalized educational support compared to other institutions I studied at.
South College's CBE doctoral degrees are very similar to WGU, and they offer accredited programs. Based on research and conversations with numerous current students, I found that they all have positive things to say about their experience there. This satisfaction may stem from a shared value for competency-based education.
Unfortunately, there's a major gap in the postsecondary world when it comes to this approach, except for a few institutes. Most publicly-funded universities still employ old-fashioned and traditional teaching methods. Lectures with hundreds of students and outdated content are all too common, often at a high cost.
For me, pursuing a CBE doctorate at a for-profit institution is less risky and more affordable compared to a non-funded doctorate at a conventional and publicly-funded postsecondary. It provides flexibility and cost savings. However, everyone's circumstances and needs are unique, so it's important to do a personal risk analysis and consider factors like budget, time commitment, desired academic rigor, and teaching and learning preferences.
I should note that that indicators of quality education can vary, and not-for-profit status doesn't guarantee excellence, nor does for-profit status imply a lack of excellence. Prospective students should define their own criteria for quality, taking into account factors such as type of assignments, supports, structures for learning, instructors, and learning modalities and formats. "Structures for learning" refers to how the education is organized and designed, and "learning modalities and formats" are the specific ways instruction is delivered and students are engaged.
When it comes to employers' views on for-profit institutes, I've found that they rarely ask for specific details about the institutions I attended. Surprisingly, they don't seem to care much about the when, where, what, and why of my studies. And I'm not focused on certain academic or research positions that heavily emphasize where I studied. It's worth noting that many jobs where I live don't actually require a doctoral degree. I'm pursuing doctoral studies for lifelong learning.
Hope that gives you some food for thought!
@@lifebyjustin Thank you for taking the time out to give such a thoughtful reply.
I see where you are coming from but I also don’t have too much experience in many job settings since I’ve mostly just worked for myself for most of my life. I think you have changed my mind on south college but I’d definitely be interested in watching your story play out a bit before enrolling. I have mulled over so many programs my brain doesn’t even want to think of it anymore but I’ve pretty much narrowed it down to Purdue global and South college. The way you are able to break down and explain things makes it much easier to really understand what a program is like and I’d like to follow in your footsteps given you have a positive experience.
I would be pursuing a doctorate for self fulfillment and to come out on the other side with a complete and whole understanding of education and leadership, so I feel the way you explained your understanding really resonated with me.
Thanks for always being there👍 I ended up relaying your videos so many times to get motivated and your perspective and tips have been the most encouraging tool I’ve had while going back to school.
Never stop
@@Jearrod
Thanks for your encouraging comment! I really appreciate it. I'm glad that my reply provided you with some insights, and I'm glad that you want to follow along on my journey. I should mention that it's important to remember that pursuing a doctoral degree isn't the right path for everyone, so it's great to have a personal reason for furthering your education.
If you're currently at the undergraduate or master's level, I would also recommend considering WGU and UMPI as they are gerat options (I don't believe South College offers those competency-based education options yet).
Choosing a program can be overwhelming with so many different opinions on what's considered "good." I'll be honest and share my impressions as I navigate through this process. So, stay tuned for updates!
Thanks again for your support!
Thanks for putting this video up.
I called them today and they send me an email of DBA program and I will do it once I finish MBA from wgu
Nice! Good luck with the rest of your MBA
That was quick! The call was just yesterday.
Gotta jump on things while its fresh in the mind right :)
Connect with Dr. Patrick for a Q& A- I am a current student of South Ed.D of educational leadership!
Absolutely! He's very helpful when it comes to helping both prospective and current students. We've been in contact, and he knows that I create videos to share South College information with my audience. He's helped me clarify a few points to relay onward.
To those reading this comment, search out and chat with Dr. Michael Patrick with up-to-date program info. As of right now, he seems to have the interest in and capacity for answering CBE program-related questions.
Hi Justin I plan on taking this program do you have a course list for the program
Cool! And no specific document to share, but try searching "EdD South College Catalog" on Google for past catalogs with course info. Or try contacting enrollment services at the Knoxville Campus for a Program Handbook. Dr. Michael Patrick currently leads the program; so feel free to search for his email through the South College site to contact him directly as another option. He might have a Program Handbook to share.
Justine, what is your surname?