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I also like crystals but police don't let me keep it . It's fun
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It's not lost, it's just in the Disney Vault.
Yeah, that's what they said.
Hey guys, I was the Digital Terrain Lead on Stealth. This video is making the rounds with the VFX crew and we all really appreciate the kind words.
Awesome!
Thanks to you and everyone that worked on Stealth! Awesome stuff!
Thank you dude !. Air to air combat movies are a sorely under developed genre.
Especial thanks goes to who ever did the Su -37 scene. My gods that plane is beautiful.
theonlycatonice The Jetpack thing and the metal eating virus thing. That was at a fun stint over at Pixel Magic, great little shop, worked on the Aflec Daredevil film there.
To the threshold. You want to thank our head of Previz Brian Pohl and head of Animation Eric Gamache. Two of the finest vehicle animators and visual story tellers I have had the privilege to work with.
Twin Peaks scene was obviously meant to be abstract, anti-realistic. Lynch started as a painter.
And??
@@alittlebitofeverythingunde461: and what? The animations are done that way on purpose.
My roommate is a huge Lynch fan, and he tried showing me Twin Peaks. He said the same thing about the effects, that they were "meant to be bad." He said the same thing about the writing, and the acting. At what point is something just bad? It seems to me that Lynch is better at making excuses for his products than he is at actually making good products.
@@bradenwisely541: I said they are meant to look like that, not "meant to be bad"; that they are bad is a projection on your part, if you take your time to carefully deconstruct Twin Peaks and the symbolism behind it you will find out that those animations have clear meanings. The same thing goes for both the writing and the acting, they are not bad at all, that's a projection on your part.
@@bradenwisely541 maybe you should actually see it and form an opinion after you watch it, theres not one correct way to do art
You guys have to do Pirates of the Caribbean where Johnny Depp and Geoffrey Rush are fighting in and out of the moonlight.
I think that one's "fairly" simple. First you film the empty cave. Then you film it with the actors fighting. Whenever they step into the moonlight, you use the empty cave footage to erase them and put your CG skeletons on top.
The fight on the wheel in the second movie would be amazing too
@@jonasweber9408 that was all practical
The Jrr I knew that, but I should have specify it would be great for a stunt men react you’re right 👍
Would still be amazing a vfx breakdown on pirate of the Caribbean though
@@jonasweber9408 PotC does have a good amount of CG but I think they've already talked about the best stuff. Mostly Davy Jones.
The story of the prism is THE most fascinating vfx story I’ve heard. How is this not spoken about all the time?
Because it's probably locked in the Disney vault. Next episode, VFX Artists use VFX to break into the Disney Vault and retrieve the Supercalifragilisticexpiali-Crystal.
I think theres some crazy ownership or patent shit, its the only one of its kind so I think its kinda kept secret or it was destroyed
exactly. We have this amazing tech but we don't. why? I need to know.
Because it's not true. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_vapor_process
I imagine it's a cinema urban legend type thing
@@magicmisteur Although I don't see anything that clearly confirms this story in tje article, I don't see any clear contradiction either, as it states that Disney only made one of these cameras.
"If you're intentionally trying to do something that doesn't look good, you need to make sure it's really intentional so it doesn't look like a mistake" is a phrase I wish I knew before I started teaching my students.
My life motto when taking selfies. If it's intentionally bad, it can't be UN-intentionally bad.
"It's not bad, it's just my style!"
It's what they drilled into us in theatre design: "Arbitrary reads as arbitrary."
How did I read this comment at the exact time that it was said in the video? The Matrix is real lol
I honestly really like the hyper stylized stuff in Twin Peaks. They show that they can do something real cool with the hand, then pay homage to the original jank. I kinda dig it. Feel free to roast my opinion lmao
no this is spot on these effects are so tonally illustrative & appropriate. the corridor guys are just industry nerds at the end of the day so it's not gonna compute for them
@@crankysconga In the context of the new series with the whole past comin' to haunt you vibes, it's thematically appropriate and adds to the jarring nature of the scene
No Twin Peaks the Return was perfect you don’t have to be a hipster to think that
"I'm so confused!" --- that's exactly what Lynch wants you to say. Welcome to Twin Peaks.
I mean that's kinda the thing about that shot (and probably many other shots). What emotional response does it produce, weird. What emotional response was it intended to produce, weird. Doesn't that kinda make it a good vfx shot?
@@michaelrumsey7932 it's bad because it's supposed to be bad...
@@jonsimpson6240 the quality of the vfx serves a purpose though. The team on Twin Peaks had the budget and talent to make good VFX, they did it a few times in the series. This was an intentional artistic choice by Lynch
The crystal part is literally one of the most intriguing things i have heard in a long time
Agreed! I would love to know more about that!
Scrolled way to far for this comment.
That's one of those stories of a lost technology, but it happened in living memory, and there was proof that it was real.
I found it very interesting too. Did you see the episode where they review "The Abyss" in it. There's a pretty interesting innovation that movie created too. Sorry I don't remember which episode it was.
@@SplittingProductions What innovation exactly? The CGI water?
@@jp3813 yeah. But they talk about how the guy who worked on that took a bunch of photos of the room and built a software to stitch them together which allowed them to create accurate reflections of the water, and that software he invented is now Photoshop today.
"I have no idea what is going on!"
Welcome to Twin Peaks.
"Hey David, here's a quick 2D look of the future visual effect, what do you..."
"LEAVE IT LIKE THAT IT IS PERFECT"
Where is that in Twin Peaks? I've watched the series and the movie and don't remember this!
@@vdochev Third season aired in 2017, sometimes titled Twin Peaks: The Return. Also there's a solid 1.5hrs of deleted/alternate scenes from the movie titled The Missing Pieces if you haven't seen that
@@vdochev i think that's in episode 2 of season 3
@@denizdemir9255 But there are only 2 seasons.
The thing with Twin Peaks, is that the "crappiness" of the effect adds to the out of reality feeling its supposed to have.
For me, it doesn't. It is unimmersive, yes, but that's not the same as feeling out of reality. I just switched realities, from feeling immerse in the show, to feeling "hey look, someone just discovered after effects", which honestly makes it profoundly non-surreal, because now it's just a manufactured effect that exists in my universe rather than an inexplicable one in theirs.
Yeah when I watched it I don't think "huh the shading on the orb is off" lol. I was engrossed in what was happening. And the doppelgangers body crumpling like that was supposed to be weird. Like crumpling paper. I'm probably biased though cause Twin Pekas is my favorite TV series
@@TheKrazyguy75 I mean sure if you're watching it in isolation, but the whole show is filled with weird effects like that so you eventually accept them as legitimate. Also an artist doesn't always want "immersion". One of the main features of Brechtian theatre is intentionally calling attention the artifice of performance in an attempt to get viewers to think about what they're viewing and what it might be trying to convey to them
It also helps to tie it to the first season artistically.
Damn those dudes that created the 50's cartoon/actor tech was absolute genius.
When I was a kid I KNEW the Mary Poppins movie was made with magic. I KNEW.
Walt Disney pretty much traded his soul with the devil, this just proves the point further!
We all knew, and partook of the miracle...
I'm Marry Poppins, y'all!
Arthur Knight and most elites worships/sacrifice to moloch too
The Mary Poppins one-of-a-kind crystal just made my jaw drop to the floor. I'm with Sam, how can it be possible that they cannot recreate this thing????
Or somehow adapt the idea in a similar way. That just seems crazy.
They probably didn't have the precision tooling + budget at the time, then green/blue screen technology came around, and no one has tried since
they exist and probably could be made relatively easily today in fact www.edmundoptics.com/p/589nm-cwl-125mm-dia-hard-coated-od-4-10nm-bandpass-filter/19756/ would do it. back in the 1950s...less so, the technology existed but was newish and is non trivial to get the required precision . requires getting layers of stuff accurate to a thickness much less than a quarter the wavelength of the light involved, so nanometer accurate to get something useable, and it requires multiple of these kinds of filters. the guy probably sold the one he made and they were like wth...how did you do that? XD total master watchmaker level skills required + probably loads of rejects with 1950s level tech, and maybe he wasn't in the mood to make a second after all that faff :P
@@AngDavies Yeah, felt like it, too. Back in University we used spetrometers to analyze light on a daily basis. And at least one was 30+ years old (probably from the 70s). Just seems to me like you would need to ask a manufacturer of scientific equipment to build you a proper prism. It shouldn't be that hard.
Then again, not really necessary with modern CGI.
@@AngDavies Also the lights made the studio very hot and because of the yellow background, they had to keep reapplying makeup to keep their skin tones more red than yellow. Overall it was very costly, uncomfortable, and time-consuming on top of the technical skill needed to operate it. It was a niche product that only huge studios could afford to use. So there was never a need to build more than one. Why commission someone to build a new one when you could just rent it from Disney?
I watched The Langoliers when I was a kid and I’ve always tried to find it but could never remember what it was called and it’s been stuck in my head for maybe 15 years, so Corridor Crew from the bottom of my heart. Thank you.
Same lol, although 10 years ago I have tried to Google the movie by searching for "Flying flesh with teeth movie"
@@alenashimano178 😂😂😂🤣
"Daddy no!" - last words before eaten by a flying meatball
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Screen writer for the langoliers: hmm not kinky enough...
There is a cool bit at the end of Pirates of the Caribbean: Worlds End where the Lord/Captain is walking down the stairs and everything is exploding around him. Not sure if you have done it before.
I wouldn't mind whole episode devoted to PotC ^_^
Yess POC also the skeletons from the first movie please!!
what about the ship flipping scene in the earlier one?
Yes, please do that shot. I also agree with a full episode about Pirates. Amazing effects in all of them.
They already reacted to that a looong time ago
Seems like “We make the Langoliers actually
scary” would be a good challenge along the lines of your work with Scorpion King.
YES
Unfortunately the rest of the movie wouldn't benefit from their wizardry. The film isn't all that stellar to begin with.
@@HashMaster9000 "Scaring the little GIRL?" is a classic line, right up there with "I am you father".
(please don't actually believe that)
Yes!!!!!!
I hate those videos, since these guys go literally overboard. Their "lets make X R ratted" is just moronic excessive gore effects
4 years later.....
They found it!
How is there not more on this magic crystal?!
Hey hey, it's me! Obscure Disney and Iwerks historian, the man who developed the prism effect was in fact Walt Disney's oldest friend, 'Ub' Iwerks. The prism isn't very rare, in fact, it can be manufactured easily. The problem is that the shaded sodium light coding is insanely difficult to replicate. So rather than a dichroic coating in the prism he opted for an aluminized coating to reflect the entire spectrum of the rainbow. He had two prisms manufactured as a backup, and they're as good as the original.
The Sodium Traveling Matte process is patented by the J. Arthur Rank Co. Iwerks managed to obtain the assets (the prism) after the major studios disbanded the process. Walt gambled on Iwerks getting it to work again lmao.
So cool thanks for the added info
Discuss this point on next episode plz.....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_vapor_process
Wait so why aren't we using this technology now then?
Love, death and Robots is a whole series on netflix made out of different short stories, each one with a different animation style made by a different studio. Especially the beyond the Aquila rift episode has one of the realest looking human and face animation I have ever seen
Drake Barnes they said that months ago so it’s starting to hurt waiting but I can wait a lot longer if it’s gonna do love, death and robots justice
Fun fact: Netflix didn’t want to highlight any specific artist more than others so the episodes actually show in a different order for every Netflix user. Your episode 7 may not be Corridor Crews episode 7.
My episode 7 is sucker of souls
This looks like a studio tech showcase, which is pretty interesting.
@@texantactical7787 I don't believe thats true, me and a friend simulcast on netflix at different houses from different netflix accounts and we both watched the same chronological order..
Edit: Looked it up on youtube aswell by just typing "Love Death Robots Ep #" and checked 4 random results, same results as what I had for whichever number I put in. Might be a regional thing? But definitely everyone in the US has the same episode listing order.
"I'm so confused" is the most accurate reaction to anything made by David Lynch
When I’ve got Star Wars on a super brightness you can see these big ghost blocks around any of the ships in space. Any idea what causes that?
Travelling Mattes? (That's a Muppet name also.)
Even though they used a blue screen to capture a ship with just black space around it, there was still equipment in the frame used to suspend the props. In addition to the blue screen, they'd also physically cover up most of the frame to hide stuff, as opposed to having such a big set that the camera would only capture the model and blue screen. Look at 11:10, that's the "ghost block" you're talking about
It's pretty apparent in The Empire Strikes Back during the asteroid field chase sequence. Even on the Blu Ray release you can still see bits of it here and there.
Garbage mattes cause this.
In the process to create the black screen with the white silhouette you have to get rid of the light stands, flags, crew members and ect. You do this by taking black construction paper and putting it in front of the lens when using the color separation process to create the mattes.
The black created by the construction paper and the black created by the color separation process are two different shades of black.
The reason you can see it on TV but it wasn't noticeable in the theaters when the films came out is because film is analog and the differences between the two blacks is pretty much imperceptible. However, when telecined, digitized or transferred to tape/hard drive we find out that television/vhs/dvd/blu-ray can't sample all the colors that the original analog film can so the colors are shifted to the nearest color that matches. This shift can be pretty dramatic in some cases. As a result we see these boxes around the ships.
I don't know when they last scanned in the negatives but it may have been a while ago and they've just been using those transfers for all new releases. It's possible that technology is good enough today to eliminate those boxes if they re-scanned the films again. Maybe it's time for the them to do a 4K or 8K transfer.
Digital compression artifacts.
So what you're saying is: Mary Poppins really was magical.
The reasons we don't see "yellowscreen" often have more to do with logistics- the necessary sodium vapor lights were extremely powerful and hot, leading to a lot of issues with heat exposure for the actors, makeup and hair challenges, and safety risks given the bulbs can combust if broken. Still, they were used in a number of films including The Birds and even the 90s film Dick Tracy.
It does make me wonder if there is another element that could give a similarly narrow band of colour - perhaps even one outside our visual range - to do the same thing. Or even manage to create an LED that can get a similar wavelength - they can be bright with less heat.
@@Vastad yeah maybe it would be possible to do with infrared light just outside the range that humans can see and film it with a second camera that has a filter for only that range. Doesn't even seem that complicated and quite do-able but I really don't understand a lot of camera-things so I might be totally wrong. Would be something the corridor boys could try out!
@@rayrod9081 I think you'd be better off using a UV lightwave because with red colours and down, you'd gunna have difficulty getting a nice sharp edge. You'd also want to do it all in the same camera with a prisim otherwise you're gunna run into issues where can't actually see what you're getting with the second camera.
You would think now-a-days we'd be able to do something similar with spectrums of light.
I wonder how INFRA-Red would work in a digital way, lighting the white background ONLY with infra red and the actors with with zero infrared
@@Jack_Wolfe it would be interesting to see what kind of tricks you could do, the corridor crew should really try this out once
When you realize how important audio is. Lol
I kinda wish they could've also reacted to maybe the Atomic Bomb sequence from Twin Peaks, that would've been a little more straightforward and easier to appreciate I think. It's kinda difficult to do anything with that sequence they showed if there's no context
For the record, in the story “The Langoliers”, they don’t travel to an alternate dimension; they travel to *after*. Like, literally, they travel to “after” present time has passed. Sounds are muted, tastes are used up, and the Langoliers dispose of reality after it’s used. Later they travel into “before”, and let the present catch up with them.
Have you read the story? Is it worth picking up a copy?
@@Vastad, worth a read. That TV show is actually very close to the text of the book, so it's one of the most accurate adaptations.
@@ZethKeeper Thanks! Appreciate the recommendation!
I was about to say the same thing. I never read the book but I watched the movie, even back then the effects looked like crap.
Really cool concept. Shitty CGI
When I was a Physicist, I worked in optical nanostructures - totally possible to recreate that crystal in terms of the maths, growing it/cutting it/having the right material in the first place, would be the difficult things, if we have no clue as to the original. I'm sure one could actually improve and shrink this principle of separating the light spectra from the full optical regime, using DBRs and modern materials.
awesome!
"We have the technology we can rebuild him" I feel like if anyone would try and find people to rebuild this prism, it's Corridor.
Could you explain like I'm 5?
Any true prism and a dicroic filter to the wavelength of the sodium lamps and it's recreated.
This lost tech really should be unearthed. It would completely do away with crap green screen effects and would probably greatly reduce the crew's work load.
did i actually hear the word "cockpit" get censored
So I'm not the only one who thought this?😂
You did.
TH-cam algoritm unable to tell the difference between a specific word and a different word that contains the same sequence of letters.
It actually triggered me.
I don’t think so. The video has multiple random audio cuts, one of which occurred right before
^^^
It'd be cool if Wren did like a whole educational episode on the prism
Indiana Jones: The Hunt For That One Crystal They Used On The Mary Poppins Movie
The part about the technology used to film Mary Poppins blew me away. How can there be literally only be one of these prisms and nobody can figure out how to replicate it?
Isn't that bedknobs and broomsticks?
It may be less about "Not being possible" but more "Not being financially responsible". Like normally you do your really expensive R&D and make a super expensive prototype but then you can follow the same procedure and get copys much cheaper. But if it's like graphics card chips, where they can get a prototype but the production has a failure rate, then make that failure rate REALLY high (At least for the time) it simply becomes not worth it.
Hey hey, it's me! Obscure Disney and Iwerks historian, the man who developed the prism effect was in fact Walt Disney's oldest friend, 'Ub' Iwerks. The prism isn't very rare, in fact, it can be manufactured easily. The problem is that the shaded sodium light coding is insanely difficult to replicate. So rather than a dichroic coating in the prism he opted for an aluminized coating to reflect the entire spectrum of the rainbow. He had two prisms manufactured as a backup, and they're as good as the original.
@@Watson_Holmes But it can stil be done, right?
@@claudiazg9932 yes
You guys should talk about the cgi in Nolan’s Batman movies, specifically the bat swarms in Batman Begins
12:51 That's actually incredible. To this day I had no idea how they made that effect. Marry Poppins has been one of my favorite movies for a LONG time.
They made Mary Poppins with an Infinity Stone.
Leonidas throwing his spear at xerses in 300 was always impressive to me.
I think they had a video on that. It was basically done with 3 cameras with different zoom settings shooting the exact same action, and then the ramping was done by editing together the footage from the different cameras.
@@Vesperitis I don't think that was the spear scene. He was just fighting some "grunts" at that point
@@nathankiley8206 whoops, didn't see the rest of the comment there. But yeah, the slow-mo spear scene at end of the movie, especially the reflection/shadows on the steps
It’s always heartwarming how much Wren doesn’t want to rag on people
Lmao Niko showcasing a TV by not looking at it is hilarious
Cool fact about Stealth. They had a life sized prop for one of the planes on an aircraft carrier for filming. Chinese intelligence spotted this and freaked out about this new American stealth plane, thinking it real.
Erik Lindros I mean, Ace Combat makes some crazy planes, and China usually are the first ones to make freaky looking aircraft.
@@thefiresworddragon927 can confirm
Perhaps, US should utilise that technique to confuse _intelligence_ services much more frequently.
“Hey, look at this weird thing.”
David Lynch in a nutshell.
Wouldn't you love to see them watch Eraserhead? Please watch it in the dark.
Most of the 'Hey, look at this weird thing' moments in david lynch stuff are definitely intentionally made to make you feel that way, but they also usually have a pretty deliberate symbolic/narrative meaning when thought about in the context of the movie/series. Watch the 4 hour break down of twin peaks and you'll get it.
Kinda sad they didnt look at the episode 8 atomic bomb drop scene
"I... uhhh.... hmm.... yep, it's weird."
"Nailed it."
@@CadoonTube The Twin Perfect guy ?!? Love Twin Peaks to death, absolutely hate that guy though
twin peaks has everything intentional. it is supposed to look like extremely wierd and fake and abstract. otherwise they have some great CGI in the season as well. so if its bad, it is intentionally bad
I love how heated Wren got over the twin peaks bit lmao
8:55 "I have no idea what is going on"
David Lynch: I've done my job perfectly
By making us wonder how they've managed to make SFX look so bad? Yeah I guess. Not his best movie overall.
Ikmel A.A.A. Not a movie
@@mymindpictures That scene was from the movie, wasn't it?
Ikmel A.A.A. No, it’s from The Return, the belated third season from 2017. To be fair, they didn’t make it clear in the video.
@@mymindpictures My bad then
I am just astounded by that "prism" technology they had developed... definitely not of this world
Edit: Oh my god... thank you so much for all the likes :)) this is the first time my comment had got so many likes on youtube everrrr
a unique gem.
@@mwwwww648 Maybe the prism had just the perfect material, angle, size and atom makeup. Hence no one was able to perfectly recreate.
@@mwwwww648 There are many technologies that have been lost over human history (greek fire and damascus steel for example) but those were lost centuries ago while this is something that was made just 60 years ago.
It's just so.... weird.
@@mwwwww648 Most likely no one has tried in decades, possibly not after the filming of Mary Poppins. When they couldn't do it then it remained a non option so other things were developed instead and now we have a huge industry based on completely different technologies and so no one has had interest because no one really even knows about it. It's a "fun fact" if you know it, but no one with resources either knows about it or doesn't want to dedicate time to it because the current systems work well enough.
And that technology has its limitations just as everything else. It won't replace rotoscopy completely because you can only use it in controlled sets and I'm sure there are situations where it would fail anyway compared to green screens. I suspect that it can't handle very large scenes without completely overexposing everything and considering the size of green screens Hollywood often uses these days that would be a problem. So it solves the problem of getting an usable alpha mask (granted a very good one and basically free) in a very specific situation, but isn't much help in any other. So unless you're filming a complete movie or at least a huge chunk that uses that situation then more general tools serve almost as well.
@@francesco8000 I mean the thing that's weird about is, is all the precise measuring techniques we now have. We can mass-spectrometry, chemical image, photon-quantum-spin-radiation-charge-ion-frequency-spintographyse almost anything in existence and plot structures of proteins that are thousands of amino acids in size.
AND THAT THING IS JUST A FUCKING POLISHED ROCK IN A CAMERA. WUT?
The intense passion that Nico has for explosions will never cease to amuse me
Langoliers is 3 hours long, because it was originally produced as a 6-part mini series that would air on TV every week.
They later released it as a full lenght movie.
I know this comment is a year later but how often does one really get to talk about the Langoliers? Was it really supposed to be 6 parts cause I don’t recall how different it was from the short story? I do remember that it eventually became a two parter like It and Tommyknockers cause I still have the original vhs recordings somewhere in my garage. Lol.
The interesting thing about Twin Peaks is that Lynch actually told the artists to make the space scenes look *less* realistic, because he didn't want it to feel like science fiction.
and instead it looks like shit. Lynch is a genius but thats just straight up bad bad bad end it detracts from the scene.
those space scenes worked for me. It's like a weird fine line between good bad and bad bad :)
@@brandon4000 Dont mistake this as me calling you out because for all I can tell you're totally genuine and you actually thought the effects worked, but I really have to say I don't think anyone would really try defending that scene if David Lynch's name wasn't attached to it.
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The scene is challenging because they show you an extremely realistic effect (the hand) followed by an extremely unrealistic effect. Which proves that it's not a failure of vision, because clearly they have the capability to create a real looking shot.
I think Niko nailed it, it's not supposed to look real, it's David Lynch intentionally creating a collage like effect. And if you still think the show has bad VFX, just watch episode 8.
“VFX Artists react to the best horror movie creatures”
This would be great! Commentary on the creatures in movies like Alien and Cloverfield would be super interesting
Especially if they got someone like Doug Jones to come on! That would be really cool
The Host!
The bear from Annihilation
DUDE YES
The beginning of an amazing story. To think a working model of that camera is real now
Hey Corridor Crew!! I've always been curious about the scene from Jumper (2008) where the main character is "jumping" from his bedroom to his fridge, couch and all over his apartment while being tracked in one take.
And while I'm at it, the new Hellboy has some shocking graphics in it. Be great to see your guys take on it.
- Huge fan!!
Seconded!
“I’m confused,” the mantra of the Twin Peaks viewer.
My dad watched one episode of Twin Peaks and I'd never seen him so angry
Would love to see a reaction to the effects in the first pirates of the Caribbean film with the characters switching between human and skeleton in the moonlight. cool effect for the early 2000s!
I thought the idea behind the Langoliers was that they flew the plane through a rip in time, not space. They landed in the past and the Langoliers were the "clean up crew", tasked with consuming the remains of the past to make way for the present and future.
They didn't land in the past necessarily; they stayed behind in an instance of time while the rest of the world kept moving forward. In essence yes they are now in the past, though. Ps the novella was good, the movie was very bad. The only good part was Brutus from The Green Mile was the pilot.
twin peaks 2018 had awesome effects. it looks exactly how Lynch wants it to. later episodes have some insane stuff that they should have looked at: the Nuclear explosion / dimensional tear (!) the spinning vortexes in the sky, the room suspended in outer space, the lighting strike obliteration of a character etc. tons of awesome effects
Watches Twin Peaks: _"I'm so Confused"_
David Lynch: _"That's the Idea"_
I really like the absolute obsurdity and chaos of the visual effects in general beacuse it adds that WTF IS GOING ON vibe to it
Corridor crew just kinda showed their ignorance with that scene.
@@milesbbop9563 Well, Sam did, Niko I think knew what was going on, and I think Wren seemed really interested. Though, now they should do S3E8. I want them to see the Nuclear Explosion.
and I thought "Twin Peaks" was about "who killed Laura Palmer.....". sequel or not, remake or not....
How about a Doctor Who special, taking a look at the visual effects used throughout the 50+ years it's been on TV?
yess
Oh boy, I'm sure the CGI on Rememberance of The Daleks will blow their minds.
I just realised that Rick and Morty totally had langoliers in it! Key and Peele played them!
"That mf-er is sprinkling salt... he's sprinkling salt!" is such a timeless classic
"Sound engineers react to bad audio recordings...." lol
Do a transformation episode: visual effects for American Werewolf in London, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (Lupin's transformation), Amazing Spider-Man (lizard transformation for the doctor and for the cops), etc.
American Werewolf was all practical though.
@@ssharkbait Yeah but they do cover practical effects in their videos sometimes. Especially, I think, in comparison to digital effects.
Animorophs
Shang Tsung transformations on Mortal Kombat 1 movie.
@@ssharkbait They praise practical. If it could be done practically they'd rather that then CG. The Thing is one such movie they've talked about.
I started watching this during lockdown when working on my college assignments, now here I am watching these and now working on my final uni assignments, and I'm so glad there's so many more now, these are great
I'm fairly certain David Lynch did actually do those FX himself. I remember reading some articles and seeing some video of him doing stuff in After Effects (something with a duck-headed person?) way back around 2000 I believe.
Thats the Playstation 2 commercial he made
@@Tamacat388 yes you're right, I remember that, with the talking duck
I really need to know that people are working on replicating that magical device
Do Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole. Such a beautiful looking film and amazingly animated.
So true...
Underrated movie, I live just down the road from the owls they studied for it 😅
Although I think the Barn owl is dead now. 😕
I'm not sure why Australians had to come to Cornwall, UK for that 🤔
Late to this one, but to make the Langoliers scary in the daytime, I would personally go the route of "Predator" an almost "DID I see something...?" moment, but also have the resulting damage be visible so then it becomes "WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!"
6:23 all that explosion reminds me of is Niko saying “JOOKD!!!” And Brandon screaming
“2 DA STREETS”
Well, it not that hard to remake the camera crystal honestly. It is only that it would be cost prohibitive for a single unit. It would be maybe 50kUSD for a prototype 1080p camera. A lot more right now for a 4k camera, maybe 200k.
You need a dichroic film filter on the crystal. This would typical cost 25k for a single run.
I can work with you guys to get a prototype.
Seeing as companies like Black Magic and Red are getting custom sensors made, would it not be simpler to just add a sub-pixel for 589Nm [ wavelength on Na-vapour light]? I acknowledge that it would cost more for a one off, but if it was simply included it as a feature on a full run of cameras, I doubt it would cost much more than a regular camera.
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@@cameronwebster6866 Well you could, but you would need to buy a custom run of sensors, plus the NRE for the filter design and custom masking. Plus you need the time to develop new recording techniques, assuming you have electronics. All in all, unless you are a company already doing this like Blackmagic, it will cost you much more if it's a single unit.
Camera are only cheap because of the economy of scale...
But 50k is nothing for a film studio. Even 200k isn't crazy
I'm guessing that the filter part was the original stumbling block, as whereas dielectric filters were not unknown, the process of producing them with sufficient quality at the time would probably be very hard. The patent describing the sodium vapor process describe a stack of wave plates... patents.google.com/patent/US3095304A/en?q=%22sodium+vapour%22&oq=%22sodium+vapour%22&sort=old&page=6
@@chris-hayes it is for one camera
Bruh I want your reaction and breakdown of the pirates of the carribean and the curse of the black pearl fight scene when barbossa and sparrow were fighting around and constantly morphing into skull and normal fleshed body. Pleassseeeeeeeee
It didn't look really real and yet it was really cool! I loved the scene!
They could do an entire episode with the pirates movies.
I feel like if they did that, they'd have to do at least one of the FX scenes from Pirates XXX as well. If for no other reason than i feel like Wren would be adorably awkward through the whole thing.
Ok, two things, first of all, that's some WILD CG for 2005 on Stealth, massive ups to the VFX crew. Second of all, THAT SECTION OF THE VIDEO WHERE Y'ALL TALK ABOUT MERRY POPPINS FROM 10:06 TO 13:45 MADE MY WHOLE DAY! I've loved Mary Poppins since I was very, VERY small (wore out two vhs copies, in fact!) and learning that they pioneered that technique only to be entirely unable to reproduce it is just WILD to me, a bit of LITERAL DISNEY MAGIC here, while I thought for years that they just had a better grasp of green-screen work than the average person, or they'd done something that was locked down patent wise to only let Disney use it, just absolutely blows my mind.
Hey guys - Vfx artist here who did the helmet tracking for Stealth!
I ( 'spose? ) I can reveal that the helmet shots were tracked by two seperate vendors - Digital Domain and the studio I worked at - Animal Logic. I remember the day my sup walked in and said he heard I could track.
I'd just come off the back off a stint in the Weta Digital camera department using world's best ( and only decent imo ) camera tracking software - 3D Equalizer, being taught by the software's creator, the champion Rolf Schneider, no less.
My response - let me at it. And thus, to my knowledge, I was the first artist in Australia, and quite possibly anywhere, to use the techniques and tools developed by Rolf for the Weta Digital team.
The first thing I did was ask my sup for reference photos of the helmets. From memory there was about thirty shots I needed to track in the sequence we were assigned, in which whatserface falls through clouds. These shots ranged from wide angles of her tumbling through frame ( which I mostly tracked by hand using a custom rig ) to close up shots in high detail, for which I fired up Equalizer.
They provided the reference shots of the prop helmet. I went to work. And in no time flat, thanks to how powerful 3DE's algorithm was ( and still is! ) I had a result. I fired it up to management.
The shows Vfx Supervisor, Chris Godfrey, asked my supervisor how the track looked, spat out in record time - 'Bloody good' was his reply. They quickly assigned me every shot in the sequence.
Thanks to Rolf Schneider and his team at Sci-D-Vis, shots like this went from being a bitch to being a no brainer. And thanks to my demo, Animal Logic went from having a single licence of 3DE on a dusty old box, to using it exclusively. ( At the time, when I contacted the local distributor in Sydney, they didn't know they were even meant to be selling it! )
From my experience on countless shots and ( almost ) countless features across the years, it just shows - plan your Vfx. Use the best tools for the job. And you'll be onto the next shot in no time ;)
The whole "magic crystal thing" got me into a deep search on the topic because there MUST be some trail for it. I checked several patent databases and didn't find any patents being requested before 1961 which detailed an early blue/green screen system, and not the sodium vapor one I really hoped I would find. It is possible I didn't look hard enough, but the patent may not be electronically recorded, or was never filed due to it being a form of trade secret. I hope someone has better luck with this than I did.
Yeah I don't think they would say it but it's a clear cut case of Disney monopolizing the process because they had the one camera that they would rent out. Some people say Disney refused to even bother trying to make more prisms, because they could ask a higher rental price. You see the bluescreen effect take hold despite being lower quality because it was a process open to everyone and most improvements were not easily restricted to private ownership.
According to wiki, it was first used in 1956:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_vapor_process
Then you have Petro Vlahos, who apparently re-invented it in the US without being aware that it already existed in the UK:
www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-petro-vlahos-20130220-story.html
I found a list of his patents:
worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=true&page=0&PN=US&ST=advanced&sortField=prd&IN=Petro%20Vlahos&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ascending=true
Seems the 1963 one is the one you're looking for.
I seriously doubt the story of the "impossibility of replication", since it must have been done at least twice. I think it was more a case of not enough demand for something that was extremely expensive to set up and film (even if the final results could be considered slightly superior to blue screen at the time).
@@Snagabott Interesting. A shame this method wasn't easier to get one's hands on. I don't consider it 'slightly' better but rather a lot better and am disappointed in how closely held the method was.
@@DavidB-xz3mj Here's the man himself describing building the thing.: th-cam.com/video/XwtEW_nRHis/w-d-xo.html
It did apparently have a few drawbacks, chiefly that it restricted what movement you could perform.
Annnnd now I must know EVERYTHING about this camera and its heart of light one of a kind crystal
The Twin Peaks effects are bad on purpose, its supposed to feel jarring
Exactly. The people are speaking backwards for fucks sake. The black lodge exists in a different plain of reality. To perfectly simulate everything and make it "realistic" would take away the jarring, strange and confusing nature of it. Taking the scene out of context without and build-up ruins it.
I NEED to know more about this one of a kind cinema crystal. Seriously. This has blown my mind more than anything else you guys have put out in your amazing channel.
The VFX of Twin Peaks: The Return are actually incredible and really effective - they are deeply distressing/off-putting. Like some Adult Swim shit turned nightmarish
Na they’re just straight up bad
I love how Wren feeling so confused is perfectly on point for what the effects are their to achieve *chefs kiss*
@@googleisevil1041 they're so bad they become weird - there's other effects work in the show, this stuff stands out in such sharp bizarre contrast to the 'reality' of the rest of everything going on that they're surreal
@@googleisevil1041 If you watch the series, it really uses SUPER uncomfortable SUPER stressful and janky images to make the viewer feel weird.
@@googleisevil1041 no you just don't have taste
Fun fact: many scenes from “The Langoliers” were filmed at the Bangor International airport, in Bangor, Maine. The airport has been renovated (around 2014) but since then was largely unchanged since the filming of this movie. In fact, the outside of the airport is still quite similar. The tall building visible behind the airport from the runway is a hotel. One of Stephen King’s houses is about a 10 minute drive away.
Stainless didnt ask but was well worth my time so thanks
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I would ask the Henson's. They know where to find the dark crystal, they may know where to find the light crystal.
They used sodium vapor lighting for the composite shots on "The Birds" as well, so this wasn't a one-off thing. And, yes, you should definitely review the effects on that film.
Guy who created the prism: "I used the prism, to destroy the prism."
Wow, excellent "meme" friend! Ha ha I am something of a Memer myself
It bothers me that Humans created something they cant do twise. It is one of the basic rules of mathe or even our reality, that if achieved something once you can do it again, but it seems not. Like ancient Rome technologies.
Quick word of advice guys: If it’s a Stephen King adaptation, don’t expect good visual effects
It was a two-part TV miniseries (it isn't a film) filmed in Maine in 1994. Most of the film is set inside the aircraft, and they probably blew most of their budget buying the two aircraft they used to make the film. They didn't rent them or build an airplane set. They bought a fully intact and working aircraft to use for takeoff/landing/runway scenes, and one that had the wings missing that they cut into sections and used for filming the interior shots.
Doctor Sleep is worth checking out...
Lemme rephrase that fellow king fans: don’t expect the best visual effects. Some adaptations have some pretty great effects.
Unless you’re watching the most recent version of IT. Haven’t seen the sequel but the first one is great.
The Langoliers was a two-night miniseries event, that's why it's three hours long as a movie.
I said “I’m so confused” when Wren did lmao
"We're dealing with alien technology." No, we're dealing with Mary Poppins.
Mary Poppins is definitely an alien.
I’m Marry Poppins y’all!
You guys should react to robocop, especially the scene where his lungs are exposed
jona or the slo mo shootout scene from Dredd
And the team fortress 2 videos
maybe alex garland can write the next robocop and neill blomkamp can direct it
Now in 2024, you guys have reinvented the 1950's technology. Owesome
Van Helsing holds up pretty well, from what I remember of it.
Except the writing, the acting, the fx, the writing. Oh, I just remembered, I only liked that movie as a teenager. :D For real though, sometimes, you rewatch a movie from your teens or childhood that you thought held up, and then it is just hot garbage which was probably done to spend budget.
For example, I really adored Jumanji as a kid. Nowadays I just can't watch it anymore.
'Space: Above and Beyond'.
The Langoliers was a good story. They didn't go to another dimension, they went to yesterday. The Langoliers exist to erase the past.
The characters flew into yesterday via the Bermuda Triangle.
Time-irregularity repairing meatballs? I'm getting a Rick and Morty vibe...
@@higurro Yeah, well, the Time Police from Super Jail would like to have a word with them...
@@higurro its almost like Justin and Dan are 2 huge nerds that know way too much of pop culture
Yeah, the film sucks, but the actual story is fun
"I'm so confused" ah yes I too love Twin Peaks
I actually read The Langoliers, well listened to it. I tend to do audiobooks due to my aspergers. It was good I really liked it and I think it has more potential in film... I'd have made it animated film though... a) because I want everything to be animated and b) it'd be way easier to pull off the titular monsters in an already existing abstract medium, you know what I mean?
heres one for them to React to: a entire bad and great CG dedicated to video game Commercials, which includes Twisted Metal Ps3's Trailer, the PS1 Date night trailer, Halo Wars 2 "i know you" trailer, even older commercials related to nintendo or sega. In fact as a suggestion in General, Twisted Metal ps3 is a good example of cg that can be looked at, as the cinematics are mostly cg but with physical real actors in them. as in they pull somewhat of a star wars prequel with everything on a blue or greenscreen, as well as something similar with The Quiet Man (a pretty rough game but has some cool ideas of complete live action to complete CG cuts).
“I HAVE NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON, IT’S SO BAD, WHAT IS HAPPENING”
Yup, that’s Lynch!
Stealth: three of the world's top fighter pilots must take down a state of the art nuclear armed drone piloted by an AI that is literally going through an angst-y teenager phase, complete with an absolute obsession with the band Incubus to the point that it blasts one of their songs (made specifically as a tie-in for this movie) over the radio to drown out the pilots when they try to tell it to calm down. What an absolute GEM of a movie
Holy shit I remember that song! That movie came out during my own angsty teenager phase, I thought it was such a good movie.
Angst teenager phase AI. Damn, that's a really nice way to put it.
“At least the effects were decent”
@@lxkrny same here man lmao
You summed up Stealth perfectly. And every time I watch Stealth, I can't help but think of Macross: Plus.
Bro the music at 14:01 is SO nostalgic, I’m crying 😭
What an incredible episode. The Langoliers, Mystery Miracle Mary Poppins Camera, Smash Bros, it has everything
you should react to the Halo 2 Anniversary cutscenes. Some of the best cg cutscenes I've ever seen
This👆👍
they should react to disaster movie CGi like 2012 and deep impact and geostorm
Yes
The original Halo cutscene are still better. New ones look like some netflix adaption that completely loses the original vision Bungie had just sayin 343 cant do anything right.
@@chuggynation8275 343 didn't do those cutscenes, though. And how do you mean they lose the vision of the original?
I would legit sell my soul and get the popcorn for a mini documentary episode of you guys trying to find the magical prism camera, as well as explaining the rest of its history, and eventually trying to replicate it yourselves!
The Magical Prism is actually a Greater Soul Gem that was infused with the soul of Isaac Newton at the moment of his death on March 20th, 1726. It's perhaps one of the most rare, valuable, and powerful crystals on Earth. A secret order of knights is rumored to keep the crystal's location a secret and actively interfere with the plans of adventurers trying to find it. Some say that the crystal is held within a cursed treasure chamber at the end of a long and booby-trapped tunnel, which can only be accessed by spelunking through dark and narrow fissures in the rocks of an unmarked subterranean cavern somewhere deep within the ancient stone city of Petra. Best of luck trying to find it! :)
Yes, we need someone to hunt for this 😭
We finally got it!! I waited years to see them actually explore it and we finally got a recreated prism and sodium vapor lights! I was SO stoked when I saw that pop up on Sunday haha, it's absolutely flawless and amazing
you so have to give it to corridor for the details that nobody really thinks twice about but are still there. shout out to you for adding refraction into that diagram at 12:43