@@SwanPrincess899 he e Was in his right mind state and no achievements he has can take away the big L from him. Leo is just the best and he has been for a full year
I mean joker got “nerfed” right, it wasn’t that bad really. It’s like the palu nerf, it’s not effecting your standings in the tier list much if at all. Joker is still a very easy top 3.
@Sean Solo what you say, pelu is more like a change of the time of moves, the Nerfs of joker decreases the resistance and time of arsene, and decreases the range and hitbox of the guns, nobody can play so good like mkleo with joker that's all
Derick Espinosa zackray does great with joker. And the nerfs for both of those characters didn’t affect their stance in the meta at all, they’re still top 5 characters
@@seansolo3583 that's irrelevant the Nerf exist and end, you only say things about top characters but the point here is the Nerf, and the Nerf affect, and other thing I don't see zarkray win a tournament with joker like Leo 🤷🏻♂️
As with many things, Leo is significant better at catching items than most of the top players. It happened throughout this set and it happened throughout the later set with tea as well. Barely anything gets past him
Mr. Blue They were kinda significant due to disadvantage being harder for Leo to get out of and Arsene meter gets out quicker. Tell me what you want but in my honest opinion, Joker is now Top 3, whereas either Peach or Pikachu being top 2. Could go either way tbh
Why did Samsora Di out of the down throw at 7:57? I noticed many opponents against Mk Leo don’t Di out of down throw and I wonder why? Is it maybe to get a Di mix up?
Jeez samsora feeling the frostbite after this loss maybe samsora should try zero suit samus I seen him use her hes not bad at all with her. And mkleo proving joker is still good despite the nerfs
In hindsight, it's kind of amazing how poorly the end of Samsora's competitive smash career kinda went for him. His last 2 majors that he went to, at Let's Make Big Moves he lost is perfect set count vs. Tea in winners, having ended it with a 3-1 count. Then he further deepened his set count vs. Maister, which has his final set count forever at 0-5, out at 9th. Frostbite 2020, he gets upset by Toast, a rising star, and very convincingly. His last set in any supermajor was against the person he seems to have been friends with for a long time, Nairo. We know now that Samsora pulled a betrayal of sorts, so really this was the only way this could of ended. He did win CEO dreamland, but I think we could say it was very hallow. It was right before COVID hit, and no one was there that could really pose a threat (maybe other than Marss). His career ended with a shallow finish and large losses, and honestly... I think he deserved it.
@@ineedaname9069 it's annoying when people spoil other newer videos in the comments of older videos, but spoiling a video in it's own comments is bound to happen. How else are you supposed to have discussion about who won?
I need A name Why would you read the comment section of a video you haven’t seen yet? Spoilers are lame and all but if you aren’t going to do anything to avoid spoilers in any capacity then you can’t care that much.
Samsora is good but i can't stand his attitude in tournaments or his YT channel, he always gets super mad and pouty baby sometimes but it seems like everyone else generally have a good time and not throw a fit if they loose.
I wish samsora switch to zelda. I feel like zelda beats joker, since she kills so fast. plus you can stall aresene with up b or down b and if they get close you can natural b.
@@Lonewolfprime. Zelda can gimp Joker off stage easily with neural B if he doesn't have aresene. If joker tries to down B phantom slash, just grab them. Ya Zelda does get out speed by Joker, but if Zelda is played at a high level you need to predict your opponents since most of the cast is faster.
@@thomasalexander299 no that doesnt work because you can dodge the phantom edge guard easily and you cant gimp him with neutral b because its a tether grab and he mostly spaces out with the gun and zeldas too slow too use any moves onstage besides projectiles so zeldas a sitting duck on offensive and cant play defensive because thats what sam always does with jokers high damge combos and good speed and flexibility around the map
Ace Joker’s balanced when Arsen is gone, but for half the game he is the best character in the game, with crazy kill options and crazy combos. Arsen is just a jimick, go play a real fighting game
Joshua Suh You can still lose with a good character, also just because there’s no other players that have taken joker as far as him it doesn’t mean he isn’t busted. That’s like saying if only one person was doing good with Brawl Meta Knight he wasn’t the best character in the game
ILT SIB that’s not why he’s broken. joker has no lag and is safe on basically everything. His hit boxes with Arsene are massive, his Arsene moves come out too fast, & he gets Arsene from basically everything
Nothing makes me so happy that seeing Samsora being destroyed, he does not deserves to be considered top 2 in the world, he is carried by Peach, without peach , he is just nothing.
Peach has arguably the highest skill gap in the game and Samsora has been a dedicated Peach main since Brawl and has done very well in Smash 4 (most notably second at Smash con 2018).
I bet you can't do half of the shit Samsora does with Peach. She's very OP if you know how to be technical with her. Sam has been playing Peach since Brawl. Get on his level, then talk shit.
Alternate title: Edgy teen gets bodied by an Italian plumber so he murders his girl
This comment is
Underrated
This was just a beautiful comment
Basically
More people need to see this comment
And wins the tournament in the end
Bruh how is this losers 16
Upsets
The level of this tournament is so high xd
Nippon Banzai, thats why.
Joker: _gets slightly nerfed_
Leo's sponsor: *"Aight, Ima head out."*
Nintendo: *nerfs joker*
Mkleo: how many times do I have to teach this lesson old man?
Lmao
Samsora focused too much on learning the GnW match up XD
If he didn't and beat Leo then he would lose to Maister. Poor Sam
This was Grand Finals all of last season. LOL
EVO: Am I a joke to you?
Evo is just one tournament.
@@sharsasuke01 EVO is THE biggest tournament wdym 😂
Kongo Saga: am I joke to you? (Show some love for Tweek come on)
George Cai tweek got 2nd at evo too tho
samsora with the frame 2 fist bump
Unless Leo ends up in the ditto with Zachray, Rivers in the Desert will be playing from here on out
Who do you think will win? I think Leo will but i feel like Zachray has a chance, maybe..?
Who knows lmao
@Joshua Suh Exactly. Leo will have to face himself. Zachray even uses Aketchi Joker, while Leo uses Normal.
You guys writing fanfics already?
@@marcogonzalez9296 With this tournament, it's hard not to.
12:19 the weakest fist bump of all time
Clearly you've never seen M2K lose a set.
Vincent Aguirre LMAO m2k vs PPMD is always a classic
samsora was visibly upset the whole time, not surprised
You can tell Samsora wasn’t in his right state of mind. He’ll do much better next time. Congrats to Leo!!!
He was right of his mind, he is just not good enough to beat MkLeo
@@alecchavez9430 lmao stfu he's one of the few to contest him an actually take a few stocks and a major tourney win from him plz sit down
@@SwanPrincess899 he e
Was in his right mind state and no achievements he has can take away the big L from him. Leo is just the best and he has been for a full year
I agree. Not the best we’ve seen from Sam, but I’m sure he’ll come back 😄
Omega Storm Perhaps he was in the first game, but he was definitely worn by the third one.
Welp, this was a surprising but tragic end to a great Rivalry
1:36 leo baited sam into the defensive option mid-combo 🤯
Mind blown how the commentators were too busy looking at tags to see it
late reply but super underrated moment
Just a reminder that Joker just recently got nerfed. Leo carved through losers bracket and won the whole damn thing anyways.
Thanks for reminding us what the commentators are saying in this video
I mean joker got “nerfed” right, it wasn’t that bad really. It’s like the palu nerf, it’s not effecting your standings in the tier list much if at all. Joker is still a very easy top 3.
@Sean Solo what you say, pelu is more like a change of the time of moves, the Nerfs of joker decreases the resistance and time of arsene, and decreases the range and hitbox of the guns, nobody can play so good like mkleo with joker that's all
Derick Espinosa zackray does great with joker. And the nerfs for both of those characters didn’t affect their stance in the meta at all, they’re still top 5 characters
@@seansolo3583 that's irrelevant the Nerf exist and end, you only say things about top characters but the point here is the Nerf, and the Nerf affect, and other thing I don't see zarkray win a tournament with joker like Leo 🤷🏻♂️
Welcome to grand finals
12:20
Samsora: Half-assed fist bump
Hungrybox: *Deep sight
Ah I remember seeing this. Long ago.
the game is only out since a year xD
Damn I was really hoping to see a Samsora vs Maister matchup
I really wanna see Sam's growth on that matchup and if he can finally beat Maister.
Hopefully we get it at CEO haha
@@thekingbradable R.I.P. CEO.
Samsora never going to beat Maister
watch his stream, he learned it and hasn't had a tournament yet to show it
As with many things, Leo is significant better at catching items than most of the top players. It happened throughout this set and it happened throughout the later set with tea as well. Barely anything gets past him
min 1:41 Zackray won behind of mkleo.
I think that was against Elegant 🙁
@@jeremiahrivera4138 No, it was vs marss
@@xyz0w0 oh cause i just saw a set of him against elegant
Huh, I just realized that.
Something tells me will be seeing a Tweek vs Mk Leo again!
MR RUFFLES but they fought in frostbite lossers finals 🤔
Aw shit here we go again >:3
Damn MKLEO be looking unstoppable
You just described Evo. Where he won. Starting to think this is a part of Mkleos plan....
losers bracket LEO is something else
Jimmer
LOL
@Jimmer Was still unstoppable.
Jimmer and then prodigy got beat by some random
Wow, the nerfs are noticable.
Not at all since they were barely anything. Joker is still broken.
@@MrBlue-ls5di nah just Leo is better
@@MrBlue-ls5di one combo made arsene leave when he fought prodigy. It was certainly a factor in that set
Mr. Blue They were kinda significant due to disadvantage being harder for Leo to get out of and Arsene meter gets out quicker. Tell me what you want but in my honest opinion, Joker is now Top 3, whereas either Peach or Pikachu being top 2. Could go either way tbh
Joker players reduced the usage of downward guns now since it is pretty bad for getting back from disadvantage
Mkleo vs Samsora was one of the sets I used to love watching the most.
Wow. Samsora's last set in a supermajor was getting 3-0'd by MKLeo. Fitting, and honestly deserved.
whats Leo's sponsorship situation?
correct me if I'm wrong, but, i believe he just left.
@@themagicconch858 Echo Fox dissolved, and MVG is technically just Mew2King.
aight thanks guys
@@Abbaschand oh, thanks. i don't know why i didn't get the notif about your reply though.
why is leo no longer sponsored? is there any tea there, or he just didn't want to renew his contract?
I know this was 2 weeks ago but iirc echo fox just kinda went under
I really wish to be able to travel... I went to Genesis7 but I can't go to Detroit for frostbite. :( I really want to watch thia in person
Nintendo doesn't know how to handle this. They didn't need to nerf Joker, they need to nerf Leo.
Why did Samsora Di out of the down throw at 7:57? I noticed many opponents against Mk Leo don’t Di out of down throw and I wonder why? Is it maybe to get a Di mix up?
Jeez samsora feeling the frostbite after this loss maybe samsora should try zero suit samus I seen him use her hes not bad at all with her. And mkleo proving joker is still good despite the nerfs
Yoo... is that down throw up air joker is true???
depends on di. you can also follow up with fair or bair after
Only with DI in
Samsora getting clapped by Maister and Blucas has really gotten to him.
MarioKart4dayz he only lost to blucas like once or twice on WiFi lol
Would be crazy if team liquid has both #1 smash players! Melee and ultimate
Is mkleo gonna be sponsored by TL?
I hope. If not hopefully Panda Global
Mãxï why does it matter to you?
@@gligurr cuz i love those teams, and they have other smash players that mkleo is friends with
Man i remember the good times
In hindsight, it's kind of amazing how poorly the end of Samsora's competitive smash career kinda went for him. His last 2 majors that he went to, at Let's Make Big Moves he lost is perfect set count vs. Tea in winners, having ended it with a 3-1 count. Then he further deepened his set count vs. Maister, which has his final set count forever at 0-5, out at 9th. Frostbite 2020, he gets upset by Toast, a rising star, and very convincingly. His last set in any supermajor was against the person he seems to have been friends with for a long time, Nairo. We know now that Samsora pulled a betrayal of sorts, so really this was the only way this could of ended. He did win CEO dreamland, but I think we could say it was very hallow. It was right before COVID hit, and no one was there that could really pose a threat (maybe other than Marss). His career ended with a shallow finish and large losses, and honestly...
I think he deserved it.
Minor Gripe, but you can clearly see that this set is against MKLeo, not Nairo.
@@Hunter_Wittebane-Noceda oh, weird. my bad.
Totally right, f*ck samsora
Who put leo in losers?
prodigy
Prodigy 3-0 against Leo. But, Prodigy was eliminated by a Chrom player named MattyG
I love watching samsora losing
Can some on tell me why leo does not have any Sponsor any More?
He left Echo Fox
@@forex2893 ohh ok but why? And was he not sponsored by mvg aswell
the other players when they find out they’re not safe from leo even in losers: 😯
Leo winning it 💪💪
Delete this
name don't hate greatness
@@Alex-oy3db it's more so skimming the vid and posting the match results, spoiling it for people who look in the comments
@@ineedaname9069 it's annoying when people spoil other newer videos in the comments of older videos, but spoiling a video in it's own comments is bound to happen. How else are you supposed to have discussion about who won?
I need A name Why would you read the comment section of a video you haven’t seen yet? Spoilers are lame and all but if you aren’t going to do anything to avoid spoilers in any capacity then you can’t care that much.
no sponsor? wut?
i believe his other sponsor, echo fox disbanded so now he is a free agent
Whats with this tournament. Can you believe this is loser 16? And not Grandfinals, man its not even top 8.
Seeing this reminds me of something similar...🤔
Something about seing leo without and sponsor feels weird
7:58
Samsora looks so tilted that he doesn’t even wanna look at him
Poor guy is fuming. Mkleo is so chill
Noooooooo why Sam had to face Leo so early why why why
lmao
Aye GREATNESS! I like samsora too.. But GREATNESS!
Samsora is good but i can't stand his attitude in tournaments or his YT channel, he always gets super mad and pouty baby sometimes but it seems like everyone else generally have a good time and not throw a fit if they loose.
seriously, another reason why leo is one of my favorite players. humble when he wins, sportsmanlike when he loses.
@@MakimaDog couldn't agree more
Who send samsora to loosers?
Some guy with a Leffen wannabe haircut.
3:40 arsene jump scare
Even with a nerf, MkLeo is still the best
The nerfs did nothing
@@blucas4207 Legendary Lucas Main
@Blucas! What? maybe you only wanna mkleo stop winning
Blucas! Literally
@@blucas4207 I found you - your playstyle is awesome!
This was the first vid on my recommendations. What the hell..
FORMA DE LEO
“Losers top 16”
Me: but why?
Back when smash game and the com was actually good
Oh Sam :(
Lets go leo
学園都市第1位vs第2位 の闘いを見てるみたい
7:59 he sitting tho
At least he didn’t go Bayo. 😂
I know in late but I think Leo did loss to prodigy on purpose
Did anybody see how bad prodigy fucked up mkleo he 3-0ed him and 2 stocked him everygame
これだけのピチデ使いが立ち回りでこんなにDAしてるの見るとレオの立ち回りが完璧でほんとに困ってるのがわかるな
そうですね、レオは本当に天才なプレーヤーです。
leave leo alone!!!
They should nerf joker some more.
The joke is real
I feel like the commentators need to chill...
Samsora be frozen
I wish samsora switch to zelda. I feel like zelda beats joker, since she kills so fast. plus you can stall aresene with up b or down b and if they get close you can natural b.
Samsora might really at this point
The problem is Joker has her beat in mobility easily, but I do see phantom slash being an annoyance to deal with.
@@Lonewolfprime. Zelda can gimp Joker off stage easily with neural B if he doesn't have aresene. If joker tries to down B phantom slash, just grab them. Ya Zelda does get out speed by Joker, but if Zelda is played at a high level you need to predict your opponents since most of the cast is faster.
@@thomasalexander299 no that doesnt work because you can dodge the phantom edge guard easily and you cant gimp him with neutral b because its a tether grab and he mostly spaces out with the gun and zeldas too slow too use any moves onstage besides projectiles so zeldas a sitting duck on offensive and cant play defensive because thats what sam always does with jokers high damge combos and good speed and flexibility around the map
Samzorra
Why does no one complain how broken joker is🙄
Tyler!? I agree. And it’s too easy to camp with joker. As Leo showed...
Joke's kind of getting old
Because he's not? Especially with his nerfs. Bet you if Leo didn't win this comment wouldn't even exist.
Ace Joker’s balanced when Arsen is gone, but for half the game he is the best character in the game, with crazy kill options and crazy combos. Arsen is just a jimick, go play a real fighting game
@@TruTwist This isn't a fighting game but it still takes some skill, joker isn't broken when you're good at the game this game isn't for you.
Joker is busted
Joshua Suh Do you see how often Arsene appears? Just because Leo lost doesn’t make his character bad.
Chris Kitchen Just because he won doesn’t mean his character’s busted.
Peach is better than Joker, Samsora is just carried thats all.
Joshua Suh You can still lose with a good character, also just because there’s no other players that have taken joker as far as him it doesn’t mean he isn’t busted. That’s like saying if only one person was doing good with Brawl Meta Knight he wasn’t the best character in the game
ILT SIB that’s not why he’s broken. joker has no lag and is safe on basically everything. His hit boxes with Arsene are massive, his Arsene moves come out too fast, & he gets Arsene from basically everything
Nerf Joker plis
Nah fam. Nerf Leo. He's too damn good lol.
They already did.
Nel saludos xd
Ya lo merfearon, pendejo.
@@fernandoduarte950 jaja
Entonces pelame el chile
Nothing makes me so happy that seeing Samsora being destroyed, he does not deserves to be considered top 2 in the world, he is carried by Peach, without peach , he is just nothing.
Alec Chavez no one is carried by peach hahahah... She is one of the, if not the highest skill cap character/s in the game.
Alec Chavez
Carried by peach? You couldn’t do half of what he does with the character, he deserves his spot as a top player
"Carried" lol
Peach has arguably the highest skill gap in the game and Samsora has been a dedicated Peach main since Brawl and has done very well in Smash 4 (most notably second at Smash con 2018).
I bet you can't do half of the shit Samsora does with Peach. She's very OP if you know how to be technical with her. Sam has been playing Peach since Brawl. Get on his level, then talk shit.
Omg i really hope leo wont win with His stupid broken character
"Stupid broken character"
🤣🤣🤣
Haha
Broken? Lol