Give-Go Moves | RISE UP Ultimate S1 Ep6 [Full Episode]
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In this episode Coach Ben Wiggins covers Give-Go Moves and Drills. Check Out our website for full-training sessions: riseupultimate.com/
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Good video. The fun thing about ultimate is there are so many possible throws.
I noticed this video only covered Handler-Handler give go's where the second handler is already in position diagonally behind the first. It would be cool to also cover more flat-footed dump give-go's that occur on more dynamic plays when everything is sloppy. I find one of the most powerful throws in ultimate is when a handler receives a dump immediately from the person he just threw to, because it sets up 1 or 2 unguarded throwing opportunities, frequently on the break side. It's something we teach religiously at our pickup community which allows newer players a super easy way to participate in higher level offensive play. (Beau Kittridge is a good example of someone who commonly does this)
Great video. Great coaching. Great.
Amazing video! Much thanks:)
am a new player in frisbee and anxious to learn more to become a better player . i have speed but still not smooth in my cuts . i love this video thanks .
Thank you for the informative content :)))
Quality coaching. I can't wait for the next seasons!
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This is really, really wonderful work! Congrats, guys :)
Thanks fellas
Joakim Noah plays ulti?
Great video, I was wondering if you could make a video regarding on how to clear after a failed handler cut, especially those to the open side.
It depends a lot on your defender's poaching habits.
Great video! I feel like the guys on D are being too lenient on the break side
"A little physical contact never hurt anybody." - Wiggins
hahaha… right.
"H. Fouls (II.E): It is the responsibility of all players to avoid contact in every way possible." - 11th edition
Theodore Fetter
Judging from this comment, you're someone I wouldn't want to play with. Ya probably call travel fouls in a draft league 😂
Haha Theo this guy (below) kind of flamed you. Watching this many years after this comment I have to admit the fun of competitive physical play.
However 'legal' it is, in a matchup of relatively equal physicality, there's no denying the intensity it can bring to a game.
I'm not sure the give-go should be split into these 3 ways explained here (open smooth, open delayed, break side). Yet there's some really useful info here, like the thing he says they (on Sockeye) called "The Move" (6:00), which opens up the break side give-go by having the receiver ready to receive by moving towards the disc, creating separation from their mark. That's not something I see much today. And at 8:38, his point about "riding the hip", which is just sealing but not giving up that positioning too early. Ride it and get as many yards as you can before going into the open side.
But several things aren't covered which are important to setting up and running give-gos.
1. Give-gos against FM. FM is the give-go killer. Watch Bravo play Truck Stop in 2022 Nats and there's no flow. FM does two things: a. it stops the open side give-go with a force switch, so that if the thrower throws a dump into the open side and runs to the open side, the receiver's defender switches the force, making it now a run to the break side and he's able to shut down that continuation. b. it stops wheel/jam cuts (the throw to a 45 back open side reset that goes to the break side) by switching defenders so that the thrower's defender drops off early and takes the receiver to stop the quick break side continuation.
2. Where the receiver is and is coming from. The receiver can be a. 45 back stationary, b. 0 degrees lateral/horizontal, c. FOS or ahead of the disc and come towards the backfield. The thing with these scenarios is that it changes the direction of attack of the give-go. If the receiver is in the backfield, stationary, the direction of attack is going to be lateral. You aren't going to be able to score a goal with this move alone. It doesn't move downfield/upline. And that's the key. If you want to set up the upline strike, you need to move the disc laterally on the first throw, and that requires the receiver to really actually start at the FOS in a vert/endzone stack ahead of the thrower. That's how you get that sweet sweet give-go goal. Note that if you move the disc ahead on the first throw, then you have too many yards to gain when running for the give-go, so it's really easy for the defense to read the play and switch or poach from the stack downfield.
3. Break side give-gos aren't really a thing. They're exceptionally uncommon despite what he says. (Although he does cover how you can move back to the open side from this at 5:35.)
4. You can initiate open side give-gos with a reset from the break side. Set up back 45 on the _break side_, like they have been in this video, but have the receiver initiate the run before the throw goes up. Now the initial thrower can go upline freely in the open side because his defender is on the wrong side. (There's a great AUDL Cohen's Cut vid on this, th-cam.com/video/arQj0ii-Mu8/w-d-xo.html)
I did it, but I keep getting "pick"
and I dont know if handler should cut or not.
awesome vid! very informative and insightful but... i couldn't help being distracted by the thought that the coach looks like Andy Bernard from the Office! anyone else? lol;;
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I'm a fairly inexperienced handler and I'm trying to work some of these moves into my repertoire but I'm always worried that I'm blocking the first cutter by doing this. Any advice?
Jason Sonier make your cut shallower. The point of a give and go is to create space for you to throw comfortably, not gain yards
You're the handler, you just do what you want. You don't apologize to anyone.
(Or for a more robust explanation, you may BE cutting off the first cutter, but who cares. The defense expected the throw to go to that cutter and now something they couldn't anticipate has occurred. Even as you cut off your first cutter, it's still a win because now the other 3 cutters are in a better position.)
Yo is this at magnuson??
in real life the defender of 2nd handler won't ever let him to catch disc so easy like in the video because he's gonna settle a little bit different
The Move doesn't necessarily happen all the time it is a really high level move if timed right, hence why he said it as a last possible move.
@IWasWatching ㅏㅐ
"Little physical contact never hurt anybody" - I am really annoyed by this statement! Besides these videos being really great and informative about Ultimate Frisbee, I think it's just bad Spirit to tell people that contact is okay. You are teaching people to play Frisbee and keeping up the Spirit is much more important than being good at the sport.
Contact happens. And I won't call a foul if they don't run me over. But teaching it, is not okay!
This sport will move more and more towards basketball levels of contact, which is a non-contact sport technically. If you want to play this game at a competitive level, then yea, a little contact is ok. No concussions, no arm breaking, no slide tackles. Just a little bodying for positioning. That's all. But yea, the bigger guy will usually win. Fair or not, that's competitive sport.
this is so horrible. Just about everything Wiggins says here is a joke. He doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
Frank Huguenard, give and go can't be useful all the time, but that doesn't make it stupid. You can still effectively do give and go when you catch the pull, to gain free yardage. Also, if you are a swing and your mark is poaching, that gives you space to cut through your other handler and your mark, and he can run through after he passes to you for a burger cut, completing the give and go. In conclusion, the give and go isn't stupid, its just a bit harder and can only be used at some conditions.
OK, first; let's get this straight. I teach PhD level Ultimate, Ben Wiggins teaches Kindergarten Level Ultimate. I'm a frickin Rembrandt with a disc in my hand while Wiggins is busy finger painting. As opposed to Wiggins, I actually play by the rules. He does not. Secondly, a give and go is ALWAYS useful, but not how you think. This is the Dark Ages of Ultimate, where basically 99% of what anyone is teaching you is fundamentally incorrect. A higher level of Give and Go is dribbling, which is what I teach. A higher level of dribbling is penetration, which is the core of the offense I promote. And finally, let's get this on the record. I'm the mother fucking greatest player of all time. In the immortal words of Leon Spinks, Ben Wiggins couldn't carry my jock.
Frank Huguenard, Not to offend you in anyway, I always treat fellow players with great respect, but a player shouldn't be defined only on his incredible flick or his ability to get his mark yards away with just one cut, or even how he does his plays differently on a higher level, but also with what every player knows or should know, called the spirit of the game. Sure, you can be much better than what Rise Up teaches, but two things. First, you gotta respect that this man gives a hell lot of effort in what he does. And he doesn't do it because he wants the fame for being the best player ever, he just loves what he does. Second, his desired audience is players who have little to no experience at all. He and other channels like such do this to grow the sport bigger, but with the spirit of the game. And, you can't expect a noobie to understand a dribble as an experienced player such as Beau Kittredge, Jimmy Mickle, Justin Allen, John Nethercutt, Brodie Smith or even Mario o'Brien can. As I said, I respect you and every other player, but you have to take into consideration the reasons, and you gotta give at least a little respect. Like how I'm at least trying to converse with you in a calm and humane way.
@@DogsAndBaskets Idk why you have to be such an asshole. Really honestly fuck you, you're the reason why people dont want to play this game. I cant believe as a high schooler I have to say this but act your fucking age.
@@giogerber27 what's your problem?