How to Treat and Cure ICH (White Spot Disease)
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This video details how to cure ich (white spot disease) in the freshwater aquarium. Preventing ich can be annoying, but its pretty easy to do. Follow the steps in this video to cure an existing ich infection as well as how to prevent ich outbreaks in the future.
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I did this in the empty tank I cranked it up to the max temperature my heater could handle the ich didn’t last a chance in my hands... and neither the heater
R.I.P Heater served me for 2 months
OK. I just experienced ICH as a newcomer to fish keeping hobby. I searched TH-cam videos and forums. There are lots of options, some conflicting info, and variables so, here is a fresh experience as newcomer and may help you if you are freaking out about ICH.
I have a planted tanked and I had just added up to 10 fish to it over a couple weeks. My son's fish, "Bubbles" was a new transfer because his smaller tank (13 gallon) spiked. The nitrite got him. He already cried over one that had died so I thought I would quickly replace him. That is how I got ICH in my 20L.
At first I didn't know what I was seeing. It was only a few dots on the body right next to his back tail. Guy at the shop said it would be evenly dispersed over his body. That was false! It has to start somewhere! That lead to wrong and late diagnosis so, it seemed to go away w/ a fungal treatment (the result of misdiagnosis). That was the beginning of the cycle and when it came back he had it with vengence. The other fish seemed OK. But quickly developed a spot here and there.
I freaked because I have a lot of plants and a lot of fish I just got. Fish that are more highly susceptible to ICH and cost more than Bubbles. Here is what I did.
Treated with light amount of salt to boost fish immunity.
Increased temp to 86 degrees F. Note. I checked out all my fish and what they can handle. This temp was only out of params for Bubbles.
I began feeding them food with garlic in it (antibiotic).
I also immediately began dosing with Paraguard. It evaporates over 24 hour period and I had seen in forums where a guy was fighting a tough strain w/ it to no avail and did this. They didn't follow up with how it worked so pay attention.
I dosed once in the morning when I woke up for the day and at night before I went to sleep. Two caps diluted into a bottle of tank water. It did not turn the tank colors or stain anything.
I did this for about 3 - 4 days. Bubbles looked like he just kept all those cists. I wasn't sure how 86 degrees impacted the life cycle so I decided to dial it down to about 84. Bubbles was dead by the next morning and everyone munched his eyeballs. The other fish looked good and no cists. I didn't see anything on Bubbles body either. Given this experience I recommend keeping it between 82 - 84 degrees like a lot of advice out there. No need to go overboard.
I have dosed for two more days and I do not see any ICH. I also lowered the temp to about 82 degrees. I will maintain the 82 degrees and steady dosing up to 10 days total before I stop. That will put me at about 6 days of dosing past the point of not seeing ICH anymore.
I think 86 degrees stopped the life cycle completely but didn't kill them. Like a holding pattern. Not sure. Dialing it down resulted in a continued lifecycle which is needed if you want to kill them with the medication obviously. The very high temp also probably added to Bubbles already weakened immune system. The final change in temp or the cists coming off or both was too much for him.
In the future I will quarantine (I am prepared now with a couple levels of quarantine). But if ICH occurs here is what I will do:
Begin Paraguard treatment at first sign of ICH.
Treat water lightly with salt to boost immune but not hurt plants.
Dial temp up to 82 degrees (maybe 1 point over but not under) to be easy on fish immune systems. Hold it here the entire time to reduce changes to environment.
Feed fish pellets with garlic (antibiotics).
Continue double dosing (morning and night) 6 days past no sign of ICH.
Note - I still have a couple days to go under current treatment. But my fish haven't had ICH for days and the more susceptible fish survived! Only Bubbles 2 - the carrier died. Very happy with the outcome.
This treatment would be good for a more heat resistant strain or where your heater cannot bring your tank beyond 86 degrees.
Interested in more experienced thoughts on my experience. Especially why things went into holding pattern (seemingly) at 86'.
In the fishless tank I'd crank it up to 90 lol it won't survive
My fish also wouldnt
Great video again Mike. I thought it was going to get scientific when I saw the lab coat, lol
Haha, it can always be more scientific! Figured Id make a vid that was focused on how to treat rather than confuse like usual, haha
DIY AQUAPROS It was received loud and clear so it's definitely another winner - although I see some fool hit the dislike button straight after upload. Sad souls....lol
haha, dislikes are "video activity" so it all good in my book!
DIY AQUAPROS My sentiments exactly - let them hate I say, lol
since I have both legends in the same description.... I want to ask both of you a ick question. I just bought 3 tetras schools (6-7 per school), 1 loach, 2 miniature stingray plecos.i noticed my brass tetras had ick spots 24 hours after purchase. I immediately bought bought ick medicine and decide to treat de main tank(35gallon)as well as keeping my temperature at 82-85 degrees. it's been over 3 days now and I just notice other tetras are now also carrying ick.... I am beyond fustrated at this point because the tank is also heavily planted with co2. 4 days so far since I notice spots, what should I do it this point?
When you see ick/white spots on your fish, immediately turn up the heat to 87/88F(yes the fish, plants, snails and shrimp will be fine) add no meds. Wait 3-5 days, your ick will have left the fish. Once there are no visible signs of the ick, turn the temp down to 84F, then wait 5 days, the ick parasite will die after 4 days if not attached to a host. Then you can switch down to 80/82F and leave it there forever. No need for water changes if you have a heavily planted tank. Simple, cheers 👍
Seachem Paraguard. Fights ich. No need to take out plants. Shrimp safe. No staining. Follow the dose recommendations. End of story.
Snail safe?
@@sabinegray1450 Yes. I have Malaysian Trumpet snails. They were not affected.
I trust you my friend thank you I will try it
@@captainlevi7341 how did it go?
Tried it .did not work
Do I still treat with ich x if the ich is starting to rip fins or do I use something like api general cure AND maracyn
good question I added antibiotics
I could just kick myself....I added 7 neons to my tank last week and didn't quarentine them .....and you guessed it the whole tank now has ich💔
Same hear
Same
Same
I have an angelfish with 4 white spots. Will the 84 temp destroy ICH?
If I raise the temperature this way , my fish will die... Please talk about cold water fish too.
Yep I've tried heat 80 and salt, meds and this ich is still hanging in there so I'm gonna quarentee n do what u did, thanks!!
I have used heat and salt for decades - works great! 1 tsp/gal and 86 degrees minimum - emphasis on minimum. The temperature at no time can drop below 86 degrees. Heat and salt are easier for most fish to deal with than meds. Formalin/malachite green work too, just know you have options.
Catfish Cave iv kept my temp at the normal 78 and just treated with aquarium salt and it cures it just fine for me
Drew Meier I was thinking that- my heater is preset to 78 degrees. I have a 10 gal tank with 6 guppies and a betta fish with 3 ghost shrimp as critters to clean up the bottom. I'm too afraid to use that copper stuff. Been wondering if aquarium salt works..
Catfish Cave hi! I'm new to keep in Coldwater goldfish in an aquarium! A guy with 50 years experience told me a min of 80f will cure my fancy goldfish of ick! Or 24hrs in salt water, 24hrs in normal water and repeat for a wk! Ur help would be much appreciated!
Catfish Cave if you have plants will the salt not melt them?
Do I keep the fish in there at 86 degrees?
Is it possible that I leave healthy fish back in the main tank? Are they possible to become asymtomatic carrier? My hospital tank is quite small and I'm afraid that placing all of them inside would cause stress. Besides, I have 6 celestial pearl danios and I'm afraid that they can't tolerate high temp (so far they haven't shown any symptoms, only the platies do).
I had got new fish and added it to the aquarium and they all dies because of ich
Hey my fish have bad ich but i cant afford a extra tank, what should i do.
also the tank has a crab, can it stand the treatment?
I’m the same and it’s only two fish who have it.
_ChickenMCnuggies_ Same, what can we do? 🥺😢
Currently treating my guppies for ich, it's only day 3 😩 praying they survive this!
Did they survive?
Maha Yaqoob only a few :(
itsnicoletiana im sorry :((
Maha Yaqoob it's okay 😭
How many days takes to go away, my fish has them now
help! been treating for ich since tuesday. once this finally goes away, do I need to scrub my tank down, clean gravel, oranments, diftwood, etc?
Yes. I'd be better to do so just in case.
Do you wait to treat the fish after the white spots are no longer visible on the fish or do you just add it no matter the stage the ick is in ?
Yes, so that the ick goes out of the fish's skin it dies because of the cure
Hey Mike, you said you left the tank empty for a few days, Did you have to recycle it or add good bacteria again?
Nope, this is too short of a time to impact the bacteria population. Hope this helps!
Thanks! I will do this today. Your video is very detail and on target in how to do n what to do. I was worried about how to do the quarentee tank. This is a process...My betta has been sick for 2weeks 😢 I pray this helps kill those ich! Thanks for your help!!!!
Do I need to remove my Shrimp from the display when I turn the temp up to 82? I don't think they can go in the quarantine tank because the meds will kill them.
When i raise the temperature ... Do i take out the plants before ? I also have 2 snails and 2 shrimps (ghost)
Can't you juste add WARM / hot treated water to the tank to raise the temperature ?AND if so for how long ?
Sorry ... many questions !
God, this is a pain... just took my carbon out. Hopefully that speeds up the process. Then, my LFS blames me when their fish are the ones who transferred ich to my tank... Everything is dying lol. Thanks for the info.
Can i stop a feeding when this process is started?
I have lots of hardscape, plants, etc, so I want to treat the whole tank. I have amano shrimp in the tank; I'm not scared for the temprature, I've kept them at 35C (95F) with no issue, but I'm worried if the medicine will affect them. Also during treatment lights need to be off to force the parasite leave the fish, but can I keep my reds and mlues on for the plants?
Great informative video!
What tank heater would you recommend for a 1 or 2.5 gallon tank?
5-7.5watt, very small
I recommend you get a bigger tank. 10gal should be the bare minimum tank size that any inexperienced aquarium keeper should have, and I think that's still too small, 20gal is even better.
What if you dont have a heater? I just bough the super ick cure powerd at my local pet market, is that gonna be enough? Thanks
Did you even watch the video?
I have a 55 gallon aquarium mostly goldfish but it had an aggressor in it, it started nipping fins, I noticed the fish ended up getting icK, so I put the sick ones into a quarantine tank with Melafix, iCk cure and Aquarium salt, but I don't think that they are going to make it. I lost one today. Most of them were not cheap either. I'm losing my drive to want to keep goldfish at all now. This is very upsetting. Been keeping fish for 25 years and I still can't get it right.😭😭
I ran across your video and it was very informative. Thank you so much! Side question: I heard that i can use aquarium salt to help cure ich. Can I still use it if I have plants and snails?
Help!! I just got my new fish from petco and noticed the ick on it right when it got in the tank with the water idk wut to do I placed medicine
any changes to the cure of ICH? temp up to 86 degrees ?
Seems every time I add new fish from my local pet shop my whole tank got ICK!!! So, I did quarantine. But not long enough so my 20 long has ICK and now my Ember tetras have it! Had to dose whole tank!!💔💔💔I hope the Neon Green Tetras live.
Does the ich effect the shrimp as well? Does the shrimp get white spot.
My pleco has a white spot but its not small like that and its only one spot what is it?
would you do this for goldfish? or is there a better way for treating goldfish
This is a general method good for all kinds of fish
Also my tiger oscar fish have like this white spot ich i keep that fish in seperate big vessel and add small amount of rock salt and kept in direct sunlight for 1/2hour daily cure within 4 to 5 days and this method very helpful
My goldfish has it in the eye please help
Thank you very much
Shit my minnows had ich and now my smallmouth bass has it, I don’t want my catfish to get it or any of my large goldfish what do I do???? 😫
What if you don’t have a second tank to quarantine your fish?😢
can I do this in my main tank as well?
it also has fake vegetation and a few hiding places and rocks with gravel
so if I could wouldn't it take a long time?
You should do this in your main tank anyway as the whole tank needs treating and not just the fish. From my experience the silicone edges may go blue but I have a blue background so this is not a issue! I've not had any rocks, wood or plastic decor go blue. In most tropical tanks the Ich treatment will need about 8 days at 25C. I use a treatment with malachite green and formaldehyde and it needs a repeat dose after four days to treat the whole ich cycle.
Man this seems like a lot of work.
I like your videos man, really informative!
ichisuke uchiha Thanks!!!
I have heard it's not good to turn up the temp when using meds.
my goldfish just got ice put in the meds turned off the filter and prayed.
Hopeing it will live.
Can you treat inch and fin rot at same tie in hospital tank?
😍😍
hmmm i think... i just finally got why my mollies wont have babies.... its toooo hot. they dont want to reproduce.
I watched many of these video watched trying to figure out how to take care of this issue In my tank And you're very very helpful Thank you
What of you don't have an extra tank to quarantine? Is it still possible to get rid of ick? Just got restocked my tank from petsmart and it appears that all of them have it. Ugh...
Doc: High temp kills ich.
Me: *pours boiling water in the tank*
Also Me: *you picked the wrong house fool! (evil laughter)*
Pls need help.cant stop it I've never had visible white spots but always have rubbing on heater etc my tanks are or was on 26 degrees celceuis now I've cranked heaters 👆 up
all my platies died because of this ich :(
+Jeceryl Merto my guppies died because of it... :(
Jeceryl Merto I have platies with ich they were bought yesterday!! 2 of them have ripped fins
Amazing Jenny u should return them!
I’m lost 7 chiclids to this
You’re the absolute best
i just had new bleak and perch fryes in tank and the first waterchage for them i noticed white sposts evryone
Off topic question, but what do you use for CO2 dissolution?
+toycar foushboy There are a few ways I like to do it, every tank I have now is different... uhhh I go straight into a powerhead input (isnt great for the pump but if its cheap who cares) I also have an in-tank reactor pump on my 72 and im using a basic ceramic diffuser on the 90. Basically, I prefer methods that completely dissolves the co2 in the tank, there are multiple ways to do this but i personally like in tank reactors at the moment, in line reactors can slow down your filter a lot, just depends.
Yeah been trying to DIY an inline diffuser with like a impeller type concoction to smash bubbles into oblivion, but every type I've made slows my flow. As this point I too have been piping to either a filter intake or powerhead. We gotta figure a better way for this with minimal flow disruption.
Just treat the whole main tank with fish, plants and all, but raise temp and add aquarium salt! It works like a charm. The store bought meds kills fish and does more harm than good. If you can get pure formulin from a vet then that's fine, just treat the whole tank.
Is this method safe for cory's and neons?
How much salt would be recommended for a 36gal fresh water tank?
If u treating for ich it usually treatable
Guys 2 of my female guppies have some white spots. There's more today 1 on the fins and few on the body is it ich? Please help
Teamblubz probably
would it be alright if i leave my shrimps and snails on the main tank when I do this process?
I've had the same fish and plants in the tank for several years and no signs of ich until recently how do you think it got introduced
Many believe the ich parasite is always lurking in most aquariums waiting to infect a stressed fish which could be the cause.
Can you just put warm water if you don't have a heater for the quarantine tank
Are underground under gravel filters breading grounds for ich?
I can't heat up my tank w do I do
Buy a thermostat.
Hello, thank you for your video. I have 2 Goldfish and went to the store and bought two mollies and 2 Platies. I am new to fishes. after one week the small molly developed ICK. I ran to Petco and they gave me something called MICROBE-LIFT. That didn't do anything. The two mollies die and the platies too. I remove the Carbon Filter, I have the Bubbles, add API super ICK cure like the interactions said. The only thing I can do is to rise temperature to 84 Degrees . My heater came with the aquarium and it has a thermostat and the thermostat activated it self. Please how can I rise the temperature. I am trying to save my last two fishes. Thank you, I will appreciate if you can help me. This started on March 13 2022 and the situation is getting worst. I am very depressed.
i think i have an ich in my tank can this ich go to my filter to do i need to clean that filter thanks .
Yes it can go into filter,depends what filter though,if it's carbon and fine filter sponge etc it should filter some of these lil suckers out the water.,but they will die in the filter if they get stuck if they can't get to the host.
I would wash my filter,I'm no expert but that's what I did.
+becksta29 If you don't take out the carbon, doesn't the carbon take out any meds you might use? Also doesn't washing your filter kill off any beneficial bacteria you have built up in it?
just lost 2 fish ... dam it!
This is most common illness of newly bought fish
You don't know if your fish going to get ink again in the future.
Hey. I have a 13 litre tank with one betta in it. A small 5W filter pump and 2 plastic plants. Its been 3 weeks since I bought the fish and just today I noticed 7-8 white spots all over its body and fins. I change 25-30% water every sunday and feed it once a day. Can you suggest how I should treat my betta? Also, my main tank is 81 litres with 5 african cichlids and 2 rainbow sharks. I follow the same water change routine as mentioned above in my main tank. What should I do to prevent Ich in it?
Hi please help me. I have a 55 with goldfish and bn plecos, most of plecos have ick and most goldfish don't but some do, I am treating white spot control and have removed filter but have air stone. Is there anything I can do to save them? Help much appreciated.
Hello, I know it’s an old video but I really need help here with my situation. I have a 75 gallon planted tank that has a little bit of ich nothing crazy but it’s there and I’ve been treating with Kordon rid ich. Like mentioned in the video, I do the water change before then dose it every day. It doesn’t appear to be spreading anymore, however I have lost some of the fish that have been affected. It’s been about 7-8 days so far, and these existing dots seem to still be on the fish, it’s not spreading but they just aren’t falling off. If the rid ich wasn’t working, it would be spreading and pretty fast right? The temperature is 83 that’s where it stays at on a normal basis so I’m not gonna touch that, but is it unheard of that the dots don’t fall off for maybe 5 days or so, since the first couple days of treating it was only on a few fish. Any help would be appreciated
I'm trying the salt method, but since my fish are aquaponic fish, I don't have a heater, and can't afford one. Will it still work? Since its an outdoor system, the water does warm naturally, for for a few hours, then cools. I couldn't tell you the exact temp. Will they still heal?
What if I don't have a quarantine tank
angel martz First of all, you should get a quarantine tank to use in the future, you can use a sterilite or rubbermaid plastic bin as a quarantine, you can also treat your main tank using the aquarium salt and heat method, however if you have substrate or plants, I don't recommend it.
I took all the stuff out of the tank! I was having an outbreak ! 😲 But with a pinch of salt in every gallon of water will relieve the itching and no stones in the tank will help to get rid of it. But it takes time and the fishes can look sick for a while . Water changing for 25%/ 30% everyday , have patience and God willing the fish is going to be fine . Peace !
but is it okay to put a pinch of salt in the water if my fish is a freshwater fish?
Mr. Gullible yes. They make freshwater fish salt at petco
@@MrsGladding thank you!!
what about goldfish though who share their tank with 2 Borneo suckers......both liking cold water! there is only one white spot on one tail, looks like a pimple.....i am guessing this is ich?
🐟How do you Dupitt name is break
I got a medicine that for ich that some how some way treated it while it was on the fish still! I thought that was impossible. And it treated it in 1 night!
Pixy's Life what is it
Which one?
I raised my temp to 88 degrees starting salt treatment tommorrow, my fish have no white spots but they are rubbing up against the rocks and driftwood. It has to be ick but i just don't understand why they have no white spots yet ? they been rubbing up against everything for at least a week now and still no white spots..
I adopted 2 id catfish with ich, it was in a 5 gal tank with 10 neon tetras 😦 when i adopted it i started treating it with aquarium salt. But it became worse they stop eating I started to think of different methods to save them i was so worried . So i used garlic i squish them and added a lil bit of water then remove the garlic . I mix the garlic juice to their tank. It worked for me the ich is lessen i change the water everyday and now theyre finally eating im still treating them until im sure that the ich is gone 😊 just sharing
Thank you for your video. How do you get cycled water in a tank that is containing nothing ? No filter, no substrate, … TY
Is the garlic good for snails too? My glofish got ich, and the petco guy tested my water and said there is no bacteria in it and gave me the little bottle of it and said i dont need a medice. But im unsure. I also got omega one food with garlic to hope it works
hello.. my fish tank had this ich disease and when i went to local pet store they gave me medication called furanol plus 250 but another pet store said to me that this medicine is wrong and non effective for ich.. please can you tell me what is the case about this medicine i have? and the last thing is that my sicked fish died in the same day i put the medicine there cause i was too late, should i keep using medications to make the water healthy or since all the sick fish have died there is no longer needed to do anything and the disease is gone? thank you very much for you time
i got another tank to quarantine my fish. can i just drain my main tank so it will be ich free? plus im planning to re design. ill just drain my main tank and replace it with new water. is that okay???
I have a 5 gallon fish tank with lots of plants, shrimp and snail. I placed my betta male in there an then noticed that he was full of spots. He did not have ich in the morning when we transported him. We only arrived at home in the evening. So he was in the tank for like 5-10 minutes and then we quickly removed him. I also removed my guppys that was in the tank. So that tank was without fish for about 4 days now. But i don't have a heater for that tank so its really cold. About 19-20 degrees celcius. How long before the ich will die in such cold water?
My black more has a small white spot appearing on her right fin I have the medication but I don't want to start treatment if she doesn't have it how can you be sure
What is that at the bottom of the tank? Grass?
How did u get away without having any cycles media or beneficial bacteria in your quarantine tank? Did u just use de-chlorinator and nothing else?
IS there any other way to get rid of it, i only have a main tank and all my cardinal tetras died already :(
Will melafix help get rid of ich?
Will the plants in my infected tank die if I turn the heat up to 84 after I remove the tank and if so, can I just remove the plants or do they need to be treated too?
that's very helpful thanks
Is the ich parasite transferable to humans?
bruh LOL
just brought new fish home (yay i thought) then while i examined them in the new tank I found one with white specks on its fins and body. should i take it out and put it in a small holding tank????
My peacock bass died
I told my dad that my fish has this problem and he said don’t believe everything you see on the internet and now my fish is just hiding in a cave all day I never see him unless he comes for air
I wrongfully assumed my LFS treated fish before selling them. I was wrong. About to start my first treatment today.
How certain is it that the parasite will die once the fish are removed? Is 4-5 days at 84°F really long enough?
Mike thanks for another great video. Quick question, what water did you use for the quarantine tank? You said just an air stone. Is the process quick enough that you don't have to worry about ammonia or cycling problems. I'm getting ready to set up a quarantine tank myself.
Thanks! I used new tap water (de-chored it) brought it to temp and just added the fish. I didnt have a cycled filter to throw on it or else I probably would have. I knew I would be changing water regularly and I just dont feel like filtering it sometimes BUT adding a ready to go filter will make your life easier especially if your putting lots of fish into a small tank.
DIY AQUAPROS Thanks Mike I didn't want to add stress to already stressed fish!
+Wayne Cadigan I use prime and ammolock or any product like that with boiled cooled tap water in my quarantine tank and I add the medicine to new water ev time I change water.that way if ammonia does get a lil high the prime and ammo lock will keep it all safe for fish.
im with this ich infestation right now.. and this video is the most informative very good information.. i know all my fish maybe not gonna make it right now cause its to late to cure now.. but atleast this information will help me alot in the future.. and hope that my tank will be safe. so when the new fish theyll all be safe hopefully for this tormites.. thanks a lot buddy.