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Edward Kelly a was an Australian bushranger, outlaw, gang leader and convicted police-murderer. One of the last bushrangers, he is known for wearing a suit of bulletproof armour during his final shootout with the police.
In the century after his death, Kelly became a cultural icon, inspiring numerous works in the arts and popular culture, and is the subject of more biographies than any other Australian. Kelly continues to cause division in his homeland: some celebrate him as Australia's equivalent of Robin Hood, while others regard him as a murderous villain undeserving of his folk hero status. Journalist Martin Flanagan wrote: "What makes Ned a legend is not that everyone sees him the same-it's that everyone sees him. Like a bushfire on the horizon casting its red glow into the night."
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Where is Female alpha legion poster
i'd like DK to cover L'ampiao and the Cangaço
The only thing more frightening than anything in this series is the wrath of Shy having had to edit this episode
Next Episode: Rerurn to Cryptids, with the Bunyip!!
Thank you for another episode of Detective Ridiculous!
DK, thank you for saying Melbourne instead of Mel-borne.
Sincerely, the literal entire population of Australia.
And thanks to Bricky for saying melbin
One day I'd like go to to Australia.
Play some BLOODBORNE once I'm AIRBORNE and on my way to MELBOURNE.
Ain't no goofy koala keeper is gonna tell me I'm pronouncing it wrong because I'm saying it without the accent. "Mel-bin", ridiculous.
I kid, much love from The States.
Blimey, this guy plays Bloodbin@@zombiemanjosh
@@ZiaErina That got a genuine giggle out of me, thank you lol
How to you say it please forgive me
Finally, as an Australian i am pleased to finally have representation, especially a criminal
Those are seperate things? Lol
Thought we were getting some the other month when they did that one about the Ballarat Bandit but that turned out to be a bait and seitch
@@michaelbootes4822 same here, it got my hopes up
for sure, and the political corruption still goes on today.
Have you heard the song Johnny Cash wrote about Ned Kelly?
I'm realizing that Red Dead Redemption 2 has a Ned Kelley reference, in which you get to use Ned's flak armor; and when asking about what it is and how it works the response is basically "I don't know, it's Australian and if it works for them it works for us"
When does that happen?! I don't remember that at all!
@loonylenny I remember it being a part of the Red Dead Online storyline; if I recall correctly, you storm Fort Mercer with the help of the local Marshall (very similar to RDR1 I know). It's the only time it's used, can't be bought from the RDO store, and not imported into the story.
@tormonsoonado8038 I never played RDO so that explains it.
Australians are basically orks confirmed, this is clearly how an owen gun works too
“I read about this. Australian I believe…always wanted to see if it works”
If the guy was a mix of Australian and Irish, he was practically required to hate authority, especially if they were shady a.f
Specially Bri'ish authority
@@davisdf3064 With 82% of the police being Irish and two of the early premiers Irish, where was the British authority?
@@bradwilliams7212
Didn't Australia serve the United Kingdom at the time?
@@davisdf3064 That depends on what you mean by serve? The elected government of Victoria dealt reasonably effectively with issues that related to the people living in Victoria at the time. As you may know, an elected government commenced in Victoria late 1855, and in 1860, despite extensive opposition, the government enacted The Lands Act that removed most of the squatters from the land they had taken unlawfully. The Act had some deficiencies, but by 1869 the settlers had won and many were granted land on excellent terms. Ellen Kelly made an application and was granted 88 acres. That land was never worked, and she struggled to pay it off, but did so eventually.
@@bradwilliams7212 The Irish were also used by the crown. Australia also belonged to England, so I'm really not sure where you're getting at.
Don't know if anyone has said this but the police helmet straps are worn under the lip to stop attackers sneaking up behind and strangling them with their own helmet, the helmet just falls off instead.
Also a very bad movie starring Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones.
... Huh?
I was under the impression that the strap under the lip was a uniform fashion holdover of the military caps with the same lip strap. Primarily intended to deflect or at the very least buffer a sword or knife slash.
However I can see preventing a strangling using the strap.
@@benclipson8372hes talking about the movie ned kelly, but im not sure why he put it here because you werent talking about that
@@LeatherDaddy97I feel like, maybe he thought he was replying to a different comment?
"This sounds like the Australian version of fuck the police"
To be fair, that's most stories from around the colonial era, we even got a song about it!
Waltzing Matilda is a classic for a reason.
Fun fact: the first "feature length" piece of film was about Ned Kelly
I learned something today. Neat!
And Apparently It got banned In Victoria because it made some people (Idk if they were kids or not) hold a group of school kids at gunpoint or something.
Doing a Ned Kelly episode, and going live before dawn Sydney time, sounds about right.
Finally, the spirit animal of my home state.
The whole story reminds me of Blackbeard's last words in AC Blackflag
"In a world without gold we might've been heroes"
Jesus said that in the Dead Sea scrolls. Blackbeard a plagiarist
When describing geography, when DK says Australia, substitute Victoria. He keeps mixing up the state for the country. Like the middle of Virginia is very different from the middle of the US.
And for Yankees, northern Victoria is a little like West Virginia. Lots of densely forested narrow valleys.
Yes as a central Victorian some of the location descriptions were a bit off but I don't think it really removes anything from the story. Anyone wanting to know more will soon figure out where it all happened.
Thank you for that. As an American I can confirm mostly we don't know you guys have states, hell I didn't know anyone could actually live not on the coast until a few years ago.
@@Mox_Normandy that's makes no sense lol. Many Americans don't live anywhere near a coast. Most do, but many don't.
@@THE_MOONMAN I meant the Australian coast. I assumed the center of Australia was a desolute space nobody lived
Australian here, Good job D.K on this episode! You got pretty much everything on point, but a few little extra details. The Kelly's were an Irish Catholic family in a Protestant English colony, which may have also been another factor of their mistreatment. The Victorian government had also been fair brutal and corrupt for decades, riding high on the 2000 tonnes of gold from the gold fields and their mismanagement of mining licenses had caused riots and the famous Eureka Stockade of 1854. And yes Bricky, Australia was a convict colony, because after the American Revolution they couldn't ship their problems to the US anymore and took it as an opportunity to concrete their claim by colonizing Australia it before the Dutch, Spanish or Portuguese could.
Also in more resent years, Ned's body was identified from those exhumed after the Melbourne jail was demolished. A skull was claimed to be his for many decades but proved false, only fragments of his skull remain and saw marks indicated he had been illegally dissected after his execution and decapitated for Phrenology study
Your comments are only about 50% correct. You claim a Protestant English colony. During the Kelly era 82% of the police in Victoria were IRISH with 75% of them being Catholic. Two of the early premiers in Victoria were IRISH, both Catholic.
Victoria was NEVER a colony that took transported prisoners from the UK.
There was no government in Victoria until 1855, when an elected parliament came into being.
Before that, the colony was controlled by a governor in the last few years, Hotham, who was a poor administrator and that resulted in the Eureka Stockade. That was two decades before the Kelly outbreak.
The Victorian government was generous to poor settlers and granted them land on excellent terms. They were NOT brutal, as you falsely claim.
@@bradwilliams7212 I never said anything about convicts being sent to Victoria, though there are records of convicts in the state and unknown how many ex convicts may have traveled there. It is well known Australia was a british penal colony with the last convicts transported to Western Australia in 1868. The Squattocracy (at least in New South Wales in the 1840s) were primarily from upper or middle class english or scottish and were some of the wealthiest in the colony and while the state of Victoria didn't exist until 1851 you can imagine the rich and powerful would move with the flow of money. But please, tell be more about the friendly the english-irish relations in the 1800s were
@@Alesari SURE. In 1860 the Victorian government enacted The Lands Act that removed most of the squatters from the land, and that land was then allocated to poor settlers on excellent terms. The Irish were part of those that settled the land, including Ellen Kelly, who applied for and was granted an 88 acre selection.
There were some loopholes in the act, but by 1869 the squatters had been defeated, and the settlers had won the day. 80% of those that took up the land succeeded.
When there were droughts, fires, and floods the government was generous in allowing the settlers more time to pay their rent etc.
The animosity between Catholics and Protestants was based on those controlling the religions, and was not part of government policy. The government treated the Irish the same as everyone else. Many Irish, who came to Victoria penniless and worked hard, succeeded and in some cases became quite wealthy.
Watching this brought back old memories of learning of Ned Kelly in school. I don't think words can do justice to just HOW corrupt SOME of the Victorian police were (popular history has a sad habit of not recording the ones who did their job properly and weren't part of the problem) at the time, and it did indeed lead to the bushrangers being seen as more than just muggers and bandits. A lot of them were muggers and bandits, but were usually turned down that path for similar reasons to Ned.
Ned Kelly and his gang are regarded highly in large part because of the "Aussie Battler" mentality - the stubborn desire to push back against unfairness and tough conditions, which has certainly diminished in the modern age as many of such things have, but it's still a place of pride for many Australians.
Such is life.
@@dougla517 Your comment follows fictitious rot. The Royal Commission held in 1881 into Victoria police found NO corrupt practices in NE Victoria, and the commissioners in fact commented on how well the police dealt with the extensive criminality of Ned Kelly.
" It may also be mentioned that the charge of persecution of the family by the members of the police force has been frequently urged in extenuation of the crimes of the outlaws; but, after careful examination, your Commissioners have arrived at the conclusion that the police, in their dealings with the Kelly's and their relations, were simply desirous of discharging their duty conscientiously; and that no evidence has been adduced to support the allegation that either the outlaws or their friends were subjected to persecution or unnecessary annoyance at the hands of the police."
As you are claiming they were corrupt, present your evidence. No doubt you will not return, as there is NO evidence that the police in dealing with the Kelly mob were corrupt.
Ned Kelly and his gang were NOT highly regards as you claim. They were loathed by the people living in the area. Of 14,500 people living in NE Victoria only about 125-250 were supporters, and they were family, extended family and criminal associates. If you claim otherwise, present your evidence. Again, you will not return, as you are talking rot.
If you want to know the truth, I challenge you to go to the place that describes two eyes, a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first item. This is an editorial written in 1878, and shows what the people really thought of this vicious, murdering criminal. You might just learn how far away from reality you are.
There should be a back-to-back where the next video is on the Killdozer. (if it hasn't been done already)
Then after that Ted Kazinski, the trifecta
The Beechworth gaol (the prison he was hung in) is now a tourist attraction that you can get tours for and I believe they have Ned Kelly's death mask in there that you can go see. For those who don't know, a death mask is made by covering a dead person's face in plaster and letting it harden so it kinda preserves their likeness. You can see the imprint the rope made on Ned's neck on the mask itself. It's neat in a morbid way.
Anywho, the prison is "allegedly" "haunted" due to his death and the death of many other people who's guilty verdicts were very questionable. It's a cool site. Good job Australia!
Ned Kelly was not hanged at Beechworth. He was hanged at Melbourne gaol.
Sanguinius' death mask frequently comes up in Blood Angels stories.
Down came the Squatter, mounted on his thoroughbred
Down came the troupers one! Two! Three!
Oh where's that Jolly Jumbuck, that you have in your tucka bag?
You'll come a waltzin' matilda with me!
They should do a true crimes episode on the absolute chad Gary Plauche, a.k.a. father of the year award winner of 1984 a.k.a. the groomer killer, a.k.a., the man who got away with murder
40:31 From what I know, at this time in boxing history rounds wouldn't normally have a specified length, they just went until someone was knocked down. The match would end when someone either gave up, or physically couldn't stand and fight anymore. So 20 rounds in this case means Ned knocked Wright to the floor 20 times before he either gave up or couldn't bring himself to scratch.
It is doubtful if the fight ever occurred. Nothing written about it until a pro Kelly author claimed it happened 90 years after the alleged event.
There's also the fact that boxing at the time wasn't like modern boxing with gloves and trying to punch each other in the face. Most old timey boxing mostly involved body shots. If I remember correctly, some boxing matches lasted as many as 100+ rounds, after which rules started changing to more modern, shorter matches.
That fight was probably invented by Ian Jones a pro Kelly author. May not have even happened.
"Such is life."
Ned Kelly's last words before hanging.
@@bradwilliams7212 nah the feds attempt to cover it up to hide the truth
@@bradwilliams7212"Is what it is."
Ned Kelly's last words before hanging.
"Sheesh, no cap."
Ned Kelly's last words before hanging.
"They don't think it be like it is but it do."
Ned Kelly's last words before hanging.
God I'm tempted to delete the OP just because of the meme replies lol
Watching this in Australia while going to work and I already found Ned Kelly iconology at the back of a car.
Ned Kelly is a legend and bush rangers in general are really cool stories.
Ned Kelly is only a legend in the minds of ignorant fools.
@@bradwilliams7212 ew
Ye olde boxing was a prolonged affair.
You see modern boxing gloves were still not a thing. Most boxers did not want to risk breaking their hand, and ending their career, by punching someone in the skull and jaw.
So body blows were the name of the game. Yes 20 rounds was normal. There was a boxing match in England where both boxers got heat stroke and burnt skin because they fought over a whole day.
And the best part? It was much safer than modern day boxing. Head hits being rare means that the mortality rate was many times lower.
Maybe you guys could team up with friendlyjordies and talk about some of the modern Australian government corruption
Or even just the total boss that was Jack Lang :D (a favourite of Jordan's)
These detective ridiculous feel so random on a warhammer40k and I love them. I learned so much lore/folklore here loool They truly feel refreshing and break the monotony of a single subject. This is one of my 3 favorite youtube channels and easily! Well done!
"Such is life" is my absolute favorite last words of all time. What an icon that Ned Kelly!
WRONG. Ned Kelly never uttered those words on the gallows. You have been conned, sport.
@@bradwilliams7212 WRONG.. you don't have to be a spoil sport since so much of the man's life is already steeped in legend and myth. Let people enjoy the agrandized bits.
@@evilsclone2499 Spoil sport for exposing the truth regarding a vindictive, vicious, murderer. The children of this nation should be told the truth about this murderer, and the fiction, myths and downright lies should be removed.
In fact, a number of government organisation in Australia have already removed the fiction and myths from their websites and promotional material.
Ned Kelly should be seen for what he was. A parasite on his community.
@@evilsclone2499 Why would you want to be promoting fiction and myths. How about telling the children of this country the truth? Or is that too much to ask?
@@bradwilliams7212 because in this specific case it isn't about pulling apart a quote given to a figure who said it, it's about ending a parable with a lesson or ideal that's ment to inform and entertain the youngish people who listen. It simply isn't important to ruin this myth for the sake of accuracy after all, does it realistically even affect anything to have folks think he said it specifically?
Dropsy is just an old term for edema, which is fluid build-up in tissues or organs. The heart failure part is often the cause of such edema, since in early stages the heart doesn't circulate as well as it used to, resulting in blood pooling up in extremities. And the heart failure is, of course, quite often the result of rampant drinking. So probably we can say that Red Kelly drank himself to death.
Ned Kelly is my new favorite primarch
there is a wax mold of his hung head in the National Museum in Canberra and an alphabet poster I had as a kid had a little picture of Ned for N. Unfortunately, I've learned more about his history in this video than I ever did in school. And yes DK, Australia was for British convicts.
It's been a minute since we had a detective ridiculous episode.
Shit, here come the Australians, make sure the beer is cold!
Mel-burn and mel-bin are both acceptable, mel-born is the one we laugh at.
On this episode of the Ridiculous Tour:
DK talks about Ked Nelly, a vaudville performer famous for shooting buckets.
Bricky has just informed me that i have spoonerised the subject of today's video, and given me a polite slap for my stupidity.
Shy is readying a powerfist to discipline me properly.
All this to cooaaaaAAAAAAGGGHHH!!!!!!!
Not gonna lie, time flew by well listening to this. DK seems to have found a knack for storytelling.
Oh hey! it’s Baldrick from the hit series Rotgrind!
Egg bonus.
Egg Bonus
Start a new Baldurs Gate 3 Campaign and hear this in Background... Life is good.
Kelly drinking game: take a shot for every concussion in this story.
TWO HOUR LONG DETECTIVE RIDICULOUS?! WOOOOO YEA BABY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR! THAT IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT!
Ned Kelly did nothing wrong
Except get caught
Ned kelly beatng the shit out of Wilde Wright to settle the score
"Get up"
That alleged fight probably never took place.
In the biography i read, his dad got 6 months hard labour because little Ned stole a cow to feed his family and his dad took the blame.
You have been reading fictitious rot. Red Kelly was fined £25 and there is no record anywhere of him being in gaol. It was Red Kelly that was in possession of a calf skin. Ned Kelly was not involved. Your comments are not true in any sense.
a@@bradwilliams7212I can see why you are a Jordan peterson fan.
@@thatindiandude4602 He gets to the hub of the problems and so do I.
While Ned was certainly no saint, i think most of us can agree he was a pretty cool guy
If there's one thing Escape From Tarkov has taught me, was that no matter how thicc your armor may be, no matter how tough face mask may be, you will NEVER be safe from leg meta
I'd love to see more episodes exploring examples of social banditry. People like Pancho Villa, Lampiao, or Joaquin Murrieta, I bet they make for great episodes.
Ned Kelly and Mad Dog Morgan are Australia's only heroes.
Peter Lalor and Don Bradman would beg to digger.
STEVE IRWIN..
This whole story just makes me mad that we'll never see that level of class solidarity against the pigs ever again. 😢
Mood
Class consensus has been steadily and quickly growing, don’t count your chickens before they hatch
Ned Kelly was the original ACAB
The Armor is still standing there, waiting for a suitable successor!
Shy is rocking that suit, adorable badass noir cherub.
That picture of Ned in the courtroom gives me John Brown vibes.
I would suggest for another episode to have a look at the life and death of the most famous Brazilian outlaw named "Lampiao", it has the same vibe with all the popular support to a gang, with him and his wife becoming part of folk lore.
Idk man. While I also think he was a chad I have a feeling that he might just been someone who just happened to be at the right time where people hated the police more and needed to vent. You kinda glossed over it but he was a member of a gang, a robber and a bandit for years. I have hard time believing that those few policeman where the majority of his victims.
Also I'm not sure you really can call the final court a sham. Even disregarding everything else I can't really see anyone being able to defend anyone against what he did right before he was captured. He did plan to derail a train, kill a dozen police officer aboard, and then rob an entire town. And he did take a lot of hostages to achieve that. That alone would probably land him in for life at least. And I'm uncertain if that was even a possibility back then
Most police in NE Victoria were from Ireland. They were well respected in their communities. The population in NE Victoria loathed Ned Kelly. You have the entire story upside down.
7:47 Bricky's got it right. Drop the "our" and just say Melbn. Same with Brisbane
I genuinely dont know if this is just the australian tradition of confusing others like with dropbears or if this is true.
@@sarahmaximano it really is the proper pronunciation
Melbourne- melbin
Brisbane- brisbin
Canberra- canbrah
@@sarahmaxima think of it as being more lazy- I mean efficient with our pronunciation.
How the hell is this guy not in Fate/Grand Order?
Oh that would be great
1:36:14 imagine the echoing laughter from Ned Kelly as he charges them in the moonlight… god that’s so frighteningly badass!
I think I saw this dude at Outback Steakhouse
😂 it's always weird hearing about non-Aussies talk about Ned Kelly having grown up very close to where he was active. Visiting Beechworth every couple of months and stopping at the Glenrowan Macca's going through to Melbourne, you kinda forget how much of an impact he has outside of your own little area.
As an Australian i can confirm we're all just irish convicts that've been left in the sun to long
I'm a bit shocked Bricky hasn't heard of the phrase "stool pigeon", it feels like a very popular phrase in Noir or gangster themed media.
Too late to say it in chat, but Dropsy is Old Fashioned for Congestive Heart Failure.
Ned Kelly was quite the outlaw he'd died like a true Kelly
He died like the coward he was. Could not even utter a word on the gallows.
First the Hopkinsville Goblins, now Ned Kelly? You guys just keep checking items off the list I didn't even know I had. Keep up the good work!
There are many ways to pronounce Melbourne.
Melbin, Melben, Melburn, and Shithole.
Good on ya bruz I'm an Aussie and thanks for talking about one our greatest legends.
Murderers do not qualify as legends.
Ned Kelly the 18th century Space Marine... if they skipped leg day
seriously though, in an alternate universe he Armored up his legs and was literally unstoppable as far as those officers were concerned. They'd literally just have to wait for his heart to give out.
Ned Kelly was born in the 19th century.
@@bradwilliams7212 you really are just "um ackshouly" as a person, huh?
@@arandomkobold8403 Just someone who presents the facts regarding this vicious murdering criminal.
Was Ned Kelly the first Man of Iron or the first Space Marine?
Probably the first Space Marine
Not space marine hes just a guy doing his best
My fiancé and I, both Aussie, loved this episode. We love listening to the both of you and just how well you conveyed the story of Ned Kelly. Really appreciate everything all of you do. Love you guys ❤
An important little bit of background information for this, we Australians have a very deep rooted hatred of authority which was even more intense back in the day. Not only were we dealing with a super corrupt police force and government, but we also hate authority figures… such as overbearing police officers. It really was the perfect light for an outlaw to rally public support.
Average Americans: *hell yeah, brother.*
Bricky mate.
Essentially there are very few men Australians truly revear and respect.
(Can't say anything negative about them. Or else high chance of💥👊😵🤛)
John Farnham
Jimmy Barnes
Steve Irwin (The Australian Saint)
Ned Kelly
To name a few👍🤟
I love that fact that your thumbnail artist had such unshakeable belief in their artistic abilities they never even THOUGHT about looking up any revolver, real or imaginary. They really said "gun is soup can with pipe, yes?" And nobody corrected them, or offered a quick Google image search. 👏 👏 👏 Stunning 👏 👏 👏
You sirs, get my Aussie seal of approval
YO LETS GO! Ned my boi!!! Let’s go Australia, and love from Down Under!
If you drink hard enough for long enough. You will basically pickle your organs, pickled organs done work so great.
Badass Irish/Australian outlaw. Hell yeah.
Thank you for another episode of Detective Ridiculous!
Ned: "give me all your money and I'll beat you with this stick!"
Chinese Merchant: "don't you mean 'Or'?"
Ned: "I KNOW WHAT I SAID!"
as someone who is from hobart, i was half listening and jumped suprised when you said hobart tasmania
That was a brilliant telling of Ned Kelly's story. Well done guys.
Except it was full of fictitious rubbish.
@@bradwilliams7212 Hes become a folk hero, thats kinda their thing dude
Yep, Bricky's right DK. Melbourne is pronounced "mel-bin"
As someone who is from the kelly area, trust me, this is the least of the pronunciation crimes.
@@jimboblordofeskimosit was refreshing to hear a yank correcting another on how to pronounce Melbourne though. They always get that one wrong lol
There was a similar dude in the US that took from Ned. Fell down and couldn't get up but kept firing in tall grass which confused police and was able to get some before he was eventually shot in the leg so much he bled to death.
1:00:20 "I've never shot a man, but if I do, so help me God: you'll be the first."
~ Adamantium Testicles Ned Kelly
As an Australian from rural Victoria around Melbourne it really needs to be stated how iconic the phrase “Such is life” has become. It’s plastered on everything from flags to bumper stickers to signs and every other blue collar bloke from the country has is tattooed on them
Farewell my home in Greta,
Now my sisters fare thee well
It breaks my heart that we must part,
But it's here I dare not dwell
The brand of Cain is on my brow and my hands are stained with gore,
So I must roam for future years throughout Australia's shores
Even now the price is on my head,
And bloodhounds on my trail
All for the sake of gaining gold,
My freedoms they assail
" We gotta stop this Ned guy. He's a criminal! "
Bro your entire colony is prisoners with aspirations of pretending to be nobles.
The race to the bottom of who can sell out the others faster, peak Adeptus....
41:13 the fact the wild wright didn’t call it quits after 3 rounds of a beating is fucking wild! Says as much about wild as it does about Ned Kelly
There is no record of that fight ever taking place. Other than what was written by a pro Kelly author 90 years after the alleged event. It probably did not happen.
I understand you cant include everything but I do wish you'd have mentioned the pocketwatch story, really shows his character
You mean the watch he stole from the body of Sgt Kennedy after he murdered him by shooting him in the chest at point-blank range with a 12 gauge shotgun. Many years after Kelly was hanged, the watch was offered back to Sgt Kennedy's widow, but on condition that a ransom of £10 was paid. The Kelly clan were a lousy bunch, as the facts show.
That shows the real character of Ned Kelly.
What a BANGER of an episode once again!
What a pity it's almost all BS.
That one pick looks soooo much like Nick Offerman, so I've been imagining Australian Ron Swanson this whole time
And Irish…Criminal, selector AND Irish. And being Irish would have been the worst! Just like everywhere else
Hell yea Aussie time baby!
I only just saw this, and already as an Aussie I have a hot take I need to give.
Ned Kelly was a badass but Ben Hall was a way cooler bushranger
A very entertaining overview of the Kelly Outbreak, great work.
I would only add a few details.
Ned Kelly should not be considered a folk hero, he was a product of hard times, driven into outlawry by a brutal, prejudicial penal system government.
The Kelly family were hounded and harassed by constant police accusations of stock theft - there was a belief by the authorities that Ned Kelly was the crime boss of a state wide stock theft operation, based on no hard evidence whatsoever.
The Greta Mob were 'larrikins' - (La-ri-kins) a colonial term that was used to describe 'young ladies men, who were loud, arrogantly dressed, with absolutely no respect for authority'.
The Greta Mob were notorious for their public misbehaviour, high heeled riding boots and wore their hat strap under the nose as a very deliberate piss-take of the Constabulary who wore their hat strap under their lip.
While in Gaol, injured and unable to write, Ned Kelly dictated what is called the Condemned Cell Correspondence and in a letter he explains the Glenrowan event:
“I was determined to capture Hare, O’Connor and the blacks for the purpose of exchange of prisoners, and while had them hostage I would be safe, as no police would follow me.”
"In lieu of taking them, I thought it might be as well to leave them surrounding their Police Barracks at Glenrowan and get possession of their train and horses without an encounter"
A lot of the anti-Kelly brigade scoff at these lines by Ned Kelly in the Condemned Cell Correspondence and refuse to accept their meaning - when the meaning was clear.
No public trains used the railroads on Sundays, only the police would use the railroads for Special Police Trains, so no civilians would be on board.
The railway lines were pulled up just passed the Glenrowan station, not to kill everyone on board, but as a means to stop the Special Police Train at the station 'before it derailed' and 'get possession of their train'.
If Ned captured Superintendent Hare and the police alive, he had a powerful bargaining chip to negotiate with the Governor of Victoria for the release of his family and friends from Gaol.
With the Train, the gang could rob the Banks and blow up the Police Stations at Benalla, Wangaratta and Beechworth, paying their growing guerrilla army of sympathisers with the loot.
The anti-Kelly brigade will say that the Kelly gang were psychopathic terrorists and planned only to derail the Special Police Train and murder everyone on board - which makes no sense.
Thomas Curnow, who warned the Pilot Train engineers about the derailed line, gave evidence at the Royal Commission Inquiry into the Police in 1881 that:
"He said that a law was made rendering it a crime for any one to help them (the outlaws), and that he would make it a crime against the Kelly gang for any one to aid the police."
So Ned Kelly was implementing his own Laws for the North East Victoria and was laying them down as a new constitutional manifesto - call it a republic or better, a guerrilla army rebellion.
He was at war with the Victorian/British government and refused to obey their laws, which meant that the British Army would have been brought in to settle the rebellion, but that was what Ned Kelly wanted, he was at war and Military necessity "permits the destruction of life of the enemy whose destruction is unavoidable by the armed conflicts of the war."
Ned Kelly was an inspirational spokesman and there were many sympathisers to his rebellious cause.
The rumblings of a North East Victorian guerrilla campaign of ongoing hostilities lasted a year after Ned Kelly's execution, and was only put at ease by Constable Robert Graham and his shrewd negotiations of all the sociopolitical turmoil around Selectors land ownership laws in the region, which was one of the major factors in the Kelly Outbreak.
Ned Kelly's body was shaved and a death cast taken after his execution, then it was delivered to a medical wing at Melbourne Gaol where the body was fully dissected by medical students.
Since that day Ned Kelly's skull has gone missing and has never been discovered.
Bricky was on the money with how we pronounce Melbourne. It’s pretty much Mel-Bun.
42:36 I think of that scene in GOW Ragnarok where Thor fucking KILLS KRATOS and is like “Nah we’re not done” and defibrillates him with Mjolnir
1:12:58 and yet, even with that price… no one turned them in… tells you something about the police back then.
YEA multi hour episode please do more longer episodes
I'm genuinely so happy my recommendation actually got to be a real episode
Getting an advertisement right after “vice gripped his balls” is the best
Yes, Sydney was 1st settled as a convict outpost. Ironically becouse some major successful rebellion (I don’t know, had something to do with tea?) on the uncouth side of Atlantic stopping the original destination for convicts
Hey…The Victoria government bought Captain Cooks cottage an transported it brick by brick to Melbourne :)
"I'm Ned Kelly! Bail up or your a dead man!"
Let us now take a moment to pay our respects to Mr Hair E. Power and his incredible line of facial hair products...
...Okay, moment over.
Ned Kelly is fucking awesome