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In West Virginia folklore, the Mothman is a humanoid creature reportedly seen in the Point Pleasant area from November 15, 1966, to December 15, 1967. The first newspaper report was published in the Point Pleasant Register, dated November 16, 1966, titled "Couples See Man-Sized Bird ... Creature ... Something". The national press soon picked up the reports and helped spread the story across the United States. The source of the legend is believed in modernity to have originated from sightings of out-of-migration sandhill cranes or herons.
The Mothman was introduced to a wider audience by Gray Barker in 1970, and was later popularized by John Keel in his 1975 book The Mothman Prophecies, claiming that there were supernatural events related to the sightings, and a connection to the collapse of the Silver Bridge. The book was later adapted into a 2002 film, starring Richard Gere.
An annual festival in Point Pleasant is devoted to the Mothman legend
Mothman was always my favorite cryptid. My biggest disappointment in life was discovering that Mothman was more than likely just a misidentified Barred Owl . They're native to the area, are quite large for an owl, they match early descriptions in general of what Mothman looked like (compared to the modern depiction of a man with moth wings. And, guess what? Their eyes glow red when reflecting light. May the legend of Mothman never die!
Clearly, the Barred Owl has evolved to mimic Mothmen to ward off predators - like Milk Snakes mimicking deadly Coral Snakes.
@@ewanhogg3068 mind blowing
how do you misidentify a owl for a person though? sounds like a rationalization to make people feel less terrified.
and the coincidence is a bit more than ignorable
@@Biodeamon The same way us humans misidentified manatees and seals and sea lions as "mermaids".
In the dark, two, high set, forward facing eyes, outstretched wings, and upright posture, sure can look a lot like a flying person.
I wanna be a believer too. I was for a long time. But unfortunately the theory/ evidence with the Barred Owl has convinced me otherwise. Hell, some sightings may have been Great Horned Owls. They also live in the area. Their eyes reflect light and glow. The antennae on top of Mothman? Head feathers of said owl.
You can keep believing if you want, I, unfortunately, barely do.
I saw one of these on a foggy early morning. The top three feet of a piling silently opened up and flew off over the lake. Terrifying as a little kid.
Mothman, there’s no need to feel down.
I said, Mothman, lift that man off the ground.
I said, Mothman, ‘cause you’re in a new town
And there’s kids to be abducted.
Mothman, there’s a place you can go.
I said, Mothman, when you make your eyes glow.
You can stay there, and I’m sure you will find
Many ways to scare the townsfolk.
'Cause you’re a really big M-O-T-H.
A really, really big M-O-T-H.
You have big flappy wings, creepy glowing red eyes,
And the element of *SURPRISE*
honestly look up mothman YMCA you owe yourself to see it
I think I just witnessed raw brilliance for the first time in my life.
I know that video, thank you for the laugh.
@@OneDapperFrog They didn't write it, but it's an actual video and it is indeed brilliant.
Heavenly
Tonite on Ridiculous gear cryptid edition Bricky eats 500 skinwalkers because he was bored DK fist fights 3 dogman because he was tired and Shy kills 100 wendigos while sleepwalking
I'm happy to see other people do the ridiculous gear thing ^^
@@IdioticSynergy I am glad you like it
@@RakRescue It's funny lol
Huh, I fell asleep since I was tired when it started and dreamed of some fighting...
Skinwalkers and wendigos are usually the same thing
Mothman is a fun cryptid, nice and creepy, with a classic look to boot. Fun video. Maybe the valley of headless men would be a good one in the future.
That’s a great idea
The battle of point pleasant was in Liberty’s Kids and I distinctly remember that episode.
Not heard of that one
Nahanni Valley? They ought to do a double creature feature with that one and also cover the Superstition Mountains in Arizona. Plenty of prospectors out there have gone missing and would later be found with their heads a ways away
Seeing more cryptids and stories related to them would be cool. An episode on the Chupacabra would be sick, I remember hearing lots of stories of mexican farmers and land owners getting livestock attacked by what they thought was one near where I used to live. Dogs would also get attacked and killed by it too (probably just coyotes as is common in the southwest).
The chupacabra is really interesting because as time has gone on the myth has moved north (I think it started in Argentina) it changed a lot. Originally it was like a reptilian blood sucking “humanoid” (sometimes it’s closer to monkey proportions and other times it’s like a kangaroo) but as it went north it became more like a mangy dog.
As a kid, I was legit scared of the chupacabras, which, btw, started in Puerto Rico.
Well also it's the news of the Chupacabras in reality are smoke news for the Mexican goverment of Carlos Salinas for the populous to ignore what was happening to the Fobaproa
Honestly, I'm glad yall mentioned 76. Todd Howard added a bunch of different cryptids, like Flatwoods Monster and Wendigos
If you guys end up doing more cryptid episodes, the jersey devil is a very interesting topic
It's one of the few I don’t think has a chance but he is a fascinating piece of folklore
If y’all want more cryptids to cover, I recommend the Van Meter Visitor, the Rock Ape of Vietnam, and the Dalby Spook. Or for a more conspiracy vibe, Valiant Thor or Indrid Cold
ooo! and the fresno nightcrawlers! always loved those funky little pairs of legs
The Van Meter Visitor is a classic example of:
“Why didn’t you just shoot the mysterious creature?”
“Believe me, we tried that. It did NOT work.”
what about the elusive California man?
I really hope to see more in the direction of cryptids with historical records.
I'm all for episodes on cryptids like the Van Meter Visitor or even the Jersey Devil. Not sure how much info is out there for DK to make an episode on Indrid Cold, and I'm very certain the thumbnail for that episode would give a lot of viewers nightmares. I would however be down for an episode covering the real life legend of the Men in Black
The crane theory is a definite possibility, I was once walking down a dock at night in near total darkness and I startled a great blue heron and it stood up and flared it’s wings. Almost shit myself
I recall people simping for Mothman some years back. That statue has cleared up all my questions.
bro is caked up beyond belief
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: Bricky's Forehead reflects the sun and shines a light so bright that it attracts all the Moths to his location, becoming a god among Moths. DK mutates into a Giant Moth so he can chase after people for those toes and Shy uses a moth swarm to defend herself from the sweaty, moist warframe fans that want to complain about the new Werewolf.
I'm definitely in the "it was an Owl" camp. Moreover, I think those people who encountered the owl, in their fear and surprise, vastly overestimated its size and speed, both in the moment and upon recollection. Memory is a fickle thing, as is our ability to accurately gauge threats under stressful circumstances. Let alone _at night._ The one witness who saw it during the day was probably staring into the sun, which would not only obscure its form, but do eye damage.
It's also worth considering that people tend to be influenced by the culture around them. The Loch Ness Monster, for example, only started to be identified as a pleaseasaur after a notable movie had stop motion dinos in it. If people started reporting Mothman sightings and that became public knowledge, this could lead to people misremembering mundane weird encounters as Mothman ones, or caused a bunch of folks to make up stories for attention.
There's a cascade of factors at work that grew the legend of this cryptid, when really it was a couple chance encounters with owls. Maybe there even was a Sandhill Crane, once or twice. We humans are so tuned to look for patterns, we create them where nothing actually exists.
Yeah, the *at night* bit is especially important. I was finishing up some stuff in the barn after dark one time when my flashlight decided to start dying. Just had enough power to reflect some eye-shine back at me from something several feet away and *large.* Just about had a heart attack thinking a cougar was standing between me and the house. Then I heard a low "wuff" and realized it was my sister's dog.
Man, let us have this one. Between you and me, it totally was a bird… but stop ruinin the fun, man
Thats what "they" want you to think
I'm immediately super sceptical of any story that begins with 'I saw this really weird thing, we were all in the woods at night... ' like ok, I'm done.
Less depressing tru-crime and more wacky cryptids plz!
fun fact: the platypus was considered a cryptid because no biologist believed such a ridiculous mammal could exist. same goes for the coelacanth, which people thought was extinct.
so maybe take that cynicism with a grain of salt...
"hallucinations and mass hysteria" is a pretty big cop out to debunk anything, cause you can say literally ANYTHING is a hallucination. even this comment. its the same unprovability problem that so many of them complain about.
How did you comment on a video that didn't exist
This week on Ridiculous Gear. Bricky searches for that Wendigussy, DK scours the lands for the mothman twerking in the moonlight and Shy breaks even making a deal with the Jersey Devil
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE! I'm glad that these spread
I have mothman in my dnd campaign, his name is weedle and he is really nice. Hes addicted to cigarettes, not because he likes smoking them but he likes the light at the end. (He is still a moth after all)
So I know it’s been years since this episode, but on the gilimun episode I believe that Bricky accidentally used a Horus quote, talking about how the space marines need to know stuff. I’m listening to Horus rising and one of the quotes is the same as what was used in the gilimun episode. Just kinda felt like sharing it that’s all.
Since it was brought up not only is Mothman in Fallout 76 but he has an entire event where you kill giant mutated frogs so bunch of moths can be collected into a lighthouse which summons the Mothman who then grants you a blessing.
It's a perfectly fine game now after years of updates and it's on gamepass.
Also the mothman equinox event where you summon purple eyed mothman and a massive cult that is in a civil war basically because there are 2 different mothmen shit is nuts
@@theragingnerd1281 oh yeah totally, forgot about that
If I had a nickel for every time a primarily Warhammer 40k focused youtube channel did a video on Mothman, I'd have 2 nickles. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.
Go check out Snipe and Wib's channel. They good, and Snipe is currently suffering from cancer.
To be fair I understand DK wanting to start with Mothman because that was introduction towards the entire cryptid world
cryptids are super fun and would love to see more episodes on them mixing in with the usual murder mystery
not a word about the Smiling Man, Indrid Cold. I'd like a part 2 of this discussing him. A very brief summary of what I know. The MIB that were mentioned was also discussed with a stranger in town going by the name of Indrid Cold. He was often seen either before or after Mothman sightings and occasionally people who looked like government agents would go around asking people about him. Cold made people very wary and uncomfortable because no matter what was happening around him, he always had a calm but unnerving smile
I really hope you guys cover more, Appalachia has some weird cryptids
After they went into a tangent about burritos, I understand why Shy is drinking so much.
I think the best thing that solidifies Mothman as a actual possible creature is the fact that it's nocturnal. Sure, some sighting have been in the day but most take place at night. This makes it more believable as opposed to something like Bigfoot who is usually diurnal. It makes sense something like Mothman isn't seen a lot if it only comes out at night, where it's already hard to make out details, and the fact that it can fly.
If I were to assume, I'd say an unknown species of Owl works best for a logical explanation. As Bricky said, the eyes are uncanny of that of an Owl's and though people don't tend to realize it, some Owls can grow to be absolute units. I wish some of the encounters had included something about a possible vocal noise this creature makes because, whilst Owls are often clumped together as something that hoots, Barn Owls in particular scream like freaking demons.
Either way, very interesting discussion and I do hope that you guys can talk about some more cryptic encounters!
One thing I love about mothman is he’s literally never described as a moth.
Went on road trip this summer, and stopped through Point Pleasant on way home from Kentucky. I can confirm, that statue got CAKE.
My favorite thing though from my trip there was stopping at a very, very local breakfast place. They had a sandwich called 'The Politician's. Egg, cheese, and baloney on biscuit.
I said, Mothman, there's no need to feel down.
I said, Mothman, pick that man off the ground.
I said, Mothman, 'cause you're in a new town
and there's kids to be abducted!
I said mothman, 'cause you're in a new town
and there's kids to be abducted
I'm from WV and my grandmother saw glowing red eyes behind her car on the way home. She lived in Point Pleasent. My aunt and uncle live in New Haven and also have seen UFOs back in the 60s apparently.
I'm sorry... Your California burritos have FRIES in them??? Where the hell is this weird land, that puts FRIES in BURRITOS!!?
absolutely fantastic episode premise, very much hoping we get a bunch more
Perfectly timed, I am painting Mothman themed Genestealers and just finished priming them this morning
if you are genuinely intrested in the mothman you have to watch the documentary made by Small Town Monsters studio : THE MOTHMAN OF POINT PLEASANT and THE MOTHMAN LEGACY, both of them are extreamly well made and are some of my favourite cryptids documentary that can be found on the internet
Hope we got more cryptid stuff in the future because this was great.
"When was this movie made?"
"2001...?"
"Oh, recent!"
That was twenty-one years ago, Bricky! XD Fuck's sake.
Witnesses: "We just saw a literal fucking angel, a big ol' bird man with bird wings"
Morons, apparently: "Moth? Moth you say? Mothman?"
great ep! the mothman is one of the staples of pre-internet cryptids, real interesting but not as popular as the bigfeets and the goatsuckers
Tbf, I saw some Sandhill cranes in the Arctic of Alaska, and the noises they made sounded like something out of the Cretaceous period. Imagine hearing nothing but your typical Arctic wildlife, and suddenly, you hear what sounds like a dinosaur. Plus, when they were walking towards me, I swear, they looked like little miniature velociraptors. So I can kind of believe this theory
You should talk about the lady of Guadalupe. It’s not really a ghost or murder story (maybe ghost), but it is a *weird and wacky thing of real life*(tm)
How did Bricky not call mothman Mortarion. MOTHMAN=MORTARION let's go!! 😂
Here is a rather unknown one is the “spook light” Ik it has a terrible name but it’s actually real, my entire family has seen it and its really not a huge deal to see it. pretty much every night I’ve been out there I’ve seen it. scientists have been out there and can’t identify it (but have seen it) so u could do an episode on it that as a true one that simply doesn’t have an explanation and to the car light theory I’ll say how does the light change to red and blue and the light has been seen before cars were invented soo😂
Not saying that I think the curse is real, but realistically being shot doesn't doesn't necessarily mean you die fast, short of a shot being immediately fatal, bleeding out takes a little bit.
Was elated to see mothman being discussed!
Re: the crane hypothesis; I am somewhat doubtful of that explanation, as I'd figure that locals would have been pretty familiar with the sandhill crane.
Familiarity can go way out of the window if you see something familiar in unfamiliar circumstances. Though I personally think that a barn owl is more likely than the crane because the eyes are much larger and can in fact look red when reflecting light.
Gotta hope they do more Cryptid stuffs…
Or I guess for something with a minor connection to 40k…
The Case of the Rainbow Warrior Ship…
As it may be the reference behind the Underrated Marine Chapter of the same name
I used to go to a week long summer camp every year when I was a kid, and we had two cryptid legends there. The campgrounds were split between two main areas, with a long path through the woods between them
One legend was moth man. During the forest walk there is a shortcut that leads up and over a hill right through the trees instead of going around the hill like the trail does. It’s said that moth man lives on that hill, and if you take the shortcut he’ll know and may attack you
The other legend which was much more popular - and weird - was the polar gator. It was an alligator but covered in polar bear fur. Honestly, there may be more to it that I’ve forgotten since it’s been so long. I kinda hope that there was, since that actually sounds pretty dumb. But regardless, part of that trail was was a little wood bridge over a creek. Apparently if you are completely alone and stand on the bridge and count to 10 (using Mississippi counting), the polar gator will come out to eat you. That thing was a really popular story at the camp
My favorite cryptid is sasquatch. I listen to " the sasquatch chronicles " podcast. And you should have him as a guest on this show sometime. He's heard alot of people and there encounters. He asks them over email if they want to be anonymous or not cus some people might find them and there stories to be not true and he's vary respectable. Some are terrifying to listen too and there on his website and on TH-cam at " sasquatch chronicles "
Omg yes, more cryptids please.
I feel like a good pairing for this would be the Kentucky Goblins. Lots of controversy, conflicting reports, weird happenstance, etc.
For another cryptid do used video, please consider the Michigan Dog-Men.
I really love these videos! Also can we get a compilation of all the times DK smacks his lips when he says something dramatic?
When I first saw that thumbnail and my brain instantly thought "oh shit it's spooky mothra"
Am I the only one who saw that
The description of this creature and its behavior makes me think it was just Dante drunkenly sightseeing.
It is a common problem when the Space Wolf's reunite and party with their angelic cousins.
@@Ariadne.Of_Emperors_Children It is a common problem when the Space Wolves party with anyone.
I really hope we see more Cryptids from this series! It’s a topic I always love hearing more about.
ol SCP 2901
Most normal hunting game in West Virginia:
35:56 Cranes do tend to travel in pairs as most times they are partners
21 years is recent for the moth man movie?
Real or not Mothman is just great, seems like a chill guy!
He just wanted a friend
If you do another cryptid could you do the Dahu ? Or a more serious note there's the Loyon though this one is just sad
Second request to cover the Missing 411 of Americas National Parks.
Still love y’all covering weird and creepy stuff! Love the Mothman! Keep up the good work!
Fallout76 even has a cult worshipping mothman.. and a daily event where you can summon a wise mothman to commune with.
I'm looking forward to when DK covers things like the Zodiac killer and H.H. Holmes.
I thought this episode was going to be about mortarian……… imagine my excitement when I find out it’s about a local myth in new fucking Jersey where I live
"2001”
"Oh so recently!"
No Bricky. That was 20 years ago. We're old.
Mothman is a stud
Other than the movie about it the best depiction of Mothman is from Inside Job with counselor Mothman.
Naming flooding as one of the bad things to happen in point pleasant is a bit silly when you consider that it's 4 m above sea level.
Speaking of floodings, florida man entered the chat.
Mothman is a god damn American Hero I served with him in Iraq in 2004 and he carried my ass out of Fallujah that day
Always fun to see my state's best legend featured on my favorite podcast. Love you boys. t. heretical West Virginian.
I remember suggesting you do a Mothman episode way way back, I'm glad to see my wish come true
Mothman has always been an interesting cryptid to me, glad to see him covered!
I'm just now realizing how much Mike from RLM has influenced Bricky...
28:08 my friend who lives in the middle of bum fuck wear Virginia also calls it him fuck West Virginia.... but to be fair, he also called Wyoming the middle of bum fuck no where as well.... and he isn’t lying...
Some of the most remote and disconnected places you can go to thats still relatively well connected to the rest of the world....
...but beautiful fuckint views.... seriously, my FAVORITE environmental views in the world.
Rocky Mountain ranges, frequent if not constant waterfalls all around you, old moss covered stones, abandoned really old towns and mines, lush beautiful flaura and fawna!
So... is harmless, it has red eyes, has wings and can fly.
Bro, sounds like Vulkan stole Corax's jump pack and is looking for friends.
You guys should check out Bob Gymlan’s channel here on YT for some excellent arguments FOR Sasquatch being some kind of unidentified hominid. Very cool info.
You left out that in the movie they say nobody knows why Silver Bridge collapsed. Except in reality, we do- it wasn't engineered to take 1950- 60's levels of traffic. Also, moth man is a slasher movie villain.
As an X-Files fanatic, I will always repeat with stuff like this, I want to believe. I really, really want to believe in Mothman, but as an openminded skeptic, I just can't.
Another thrilling episode of: Tales from the West Virginia Hills....I mean Detective Ridiculous.
That entire area is a hot bed for strange sightings and creatures. You got Flatwoods and Grafton just a short distance away and those have their own monsters and there are sightings of everything from UFO´s to bigfoot and gods damned thunderbirds. Say what you want about Fallout 76, and you can say a lot, but the game nails just how weird that piece of the world is.
Went to Point Pleasant in november of 2022 and it was fucking spooky man. Silent Holler is the vibe, the hotel across from the museum is run by really fucking weird people and im pretty sure its haunted. Fun to visit once, but i ain't ever going back i think 😅
EDIT: the musuem was a fun little attraction and the mothman themed stuff that was open was neat but the overall review is go during the mothman festival and avoid during the off season. The few people working the museum and the sister shop across the street were cool, but just not worth the long trip there in off seasons.
@24:35 Anyone enjoy The Mothman Prophecies film (2002), or the book (1975)?
I travel for work and was leaving Maryland, went out of my way to WV and visit the mothman statue, can confirm that mothman is in fact double cheeked up with all that cake
Instead of talking about fictional creatures you should talk about awesome animals that actually exist... Like the Loch Ness monster! Haha
If y'all are looking for another cryptid to talk about I would recommend the Frederick Snallygaster
I'm a special messenger of God sent at this time. I have Mothman here with me listening to this podcast. He did not care for the movie with Richard gere, at first. It's hard for non flesh beings to see or reflection of ourselves of what man, especially of today, with what they have to say. We're just getting started.
So he's excited to hear your podcasts. He's actually a cherubim that was stationed here. He now had been sitting at my house on my roof but he wants to assure you all that he did not leave his post. He's a protective angel but not one that humans understand bc they have limited understanding what is good and what is evil.
We're very bipolar on this. He's my brother here as well as In Heaven. He's been waiting all this time, for this current time. He thanks you for getting out the word, not of him, but of God.
He just seems scary bc people assign their own fears bc people tend to live a life of fearful of what they do not understand. Which is understandable, he says. He also will read over your shoulders when people are looking at their cell phones.
You'll know, if you've got a kind of sense of energies, you'll feel him in your chest when he's around and it feels like a pressure but it can be other things bc he's been present at certain events and when people "hunt" him that he'll sometimes see but often he laughs bc he isn't really doing anything other than observing them and they scare themselves and he does find it annoyingly amusing. At first it caused concern bc he didn't understand but now he is getting a better picture of it as I explain it bc I'm made human.
Fun fact about the mothman, the first reports of it never claim it looks like a moth at all. The name's origin is related to Batman, but not because of Killer Moth. The first reported sightings claimed it looked more like a bat than anything, but because the newspapers couldn't get away with calling it Batman, they called it mothman instead. Then it evolved over time into a half moth half man creature, instead of a creepy flying humanoid with red eyes.
Peoples minds completed incomplete images.
Probably they unconsciously replaced the red spots in the birds head with eyes.
Never underestimate the length that The South will go to spread rumors, gossip, lies, all to be included with their fellow redneck in conversation.
Watched this episode, then went and watched all the other episodes. Fuck I’m mad I slept on Detective Ridiculous. So so good
Moth man cosplays are a real thing. I have no idea why, but it is totally worth googling
Love the Cryptid lore and all the stuff about them. I don't believe them and being real but they are cool and in Fallout 76 they are creepy and fun enemies so they would be great as horror setting enemies.
Yeah i belive that first sighting wasn't under any influence..
I wouldn't wanna be drunk while im digging a six foot hole in the middle of the night..
If you are stepping into the world of the cryptids I would like to suggest the min min lights in Australia. please and thankyou
So I looked at the store... and all but one of the posters are sus... why... I wanna buy them but I have Christian grandparents and if they see that then they will be disappointed in me and the only poster I can buy is the Chad poster.
A note about the prophecies book there two of them. One that mystified and made the moth man magical. The other tried to explain scientificly and that one was fucked over intentionally by the writer of the prophecies
Owl makes sense. They're not the best walkers. So the awkward walking away sounds right. And they will legit catch dogs and eat em
Weirdly, this is only the second podcast episode I've listened to that mentions Mothman's ass. [insert Gutsman's Ass duh-nuh here]
I just have one question about the moth man. DO THAT THANG BE FARTING?!
22:42 2001 "recent" that's like over 20 years ago dog, idk if you can call that recent.
The movie was creepy as all fuck and Richard Gere was good in it but finding out this was its origin makes me cringeeeee.
Anyone remember lost tapes? That shit was my introduction cryptids.