Perhaps we could say Ned Kelly is 'the stuff of legend'.. Thanks for the report. Great to hear these details about his fascinating life and death during such hard times for Australians.
@@jasonmitchell8712 At the time of his hanging and for decades afterwards, he was never considered a legend. He was loathed in his district, and the residents were glad to see the back of him. The only people who tried to make his a legend were pro Kelly authors, who made up copious myths about him. Those myths are presently being removed from government websites all over Australia,
@@bradwilliams7212 Perhaps look up the meaning of the word 'legend'? Its fitting for what we're both describing here. Wouldn't be the first time governments have erased / altered history. We're seeing a lot of this across the board. What your describing sounds like a page out 1984. “HE WHO CONTROLS THE PAST CONTROLS THE FUTURE. HE WHO CONTROLS THE PRESENT CONTROLS THE PAST.” They're potentially hiding any proof that their police were thugs, and there was any possibility of a rebellion. I wouldn't trust the government or police then, nor would i now. Im not suggesting Kelly was an angel by anymeans...they were harsh and brutal times. It makes for an interesting record on Victorias history.
RUBBISH. Ned Kelly NEVER stood against greed or corruption. You could not provide one iota of evidence to support your fictitious comment. I challenge you to provide evidence?
a son of irish immigrants who becomes an austrailian icon....a symbol of pure australian independence....born out of a hatred of how his people were treated by the evil empire....his name is has gone down in legend..................
R.I.P mate.. Remembrance day is about remembering everyone who gave their life on all sides in wars past. Reflecting and trying to not repeat past mistakes. Unlike veterans day and memorial day in the U.S which teaches reflection on themselves only selfishly.
Looking at him, he could be my son. My own sons both serve in the ADF, Navy, and Air Force. My eldest, he has a beard, not as long as Ned’s, obviously. It’s kept neatly groomed. And, the hair isn’t much different. My son has that heavy brow too. Just makes me sad. Such is life, I suppose 🍻
The attempted murder of Fitzpatrick cannot be confirmed due to conflicting stories and Victoria Police later said Fitzpatrick wasn’t a reliable figure. Three police unfortunately did lose their lives at Stringybark Creek, not sure it’s murder as again conflicting stories. It’s plausible that they shootout was started by police and the Kelly’s had to shoot back in self defence. In my view why this story hits accord with Aussies is Ned’s mateship qualities of looking after his mates & his bush skills in coming up with the armour idea + fight against crooked police & burning of the locals bank mortgage documents: everyone hates banks!
Travel Solo. What you have stated is fiction through and through. The evidence of Constable McIntyre was supported by the autopsy reports provided by Dr. Samuel Reynolds. At Stringybark Creek, it was Ned Kelly that opened fire first. Let there be no doubt about that. Lonigan did not have a weapon in hand when he was gunned down by Ned Kelly. Scanlan fell off his horse AFTER Ned Kelly opened fire on him and Sgt Kennedy. He was on the ground on all fours and trying to rise when Ned Kelly shot him in the chest, killing him. He did not have a weapon in hand at the time. You claim crooked police, but the Royal Commission found the police acted honourably and properly in dealing with the extensive criminality of the Kelly's. You are repeating fiction, myths and lies.
@@lapalad there are conflicting stories of what exactly occurred at Stringybark Creek and the trial was rushed thru in just over one day so as Judge Barry could attend his Spring Carnival and Melbourne Cuo. Ned Kelly was convicted of only Lonigan’s murder.
So sad to hear the poor judge passed away the day after his ruling of MR Ned Kelly, something tells me he(THE JUDGE) should have been more "HUMANE" AND "FAIR"
The judge was humane and fair and was ahead of his time for fair dealings with indigenous people in Australia and pardoning the Eureka stockade rebels.
@@pb3615 did Ned Kelly shoot dead your relative back in the day? Just wondering cause u seem to really hate NK... are u a fitzpatrick, curnow or a lonigan?
@@joeb4927 Not at all Jay B. I am just someone who wants to show Ned Kelly for what he was, instead of him being lauded by falsehoods, fiction and made up rubbish. He was a very serious criminal in the same vein as Ivan Milat, Carl Williams and the Moran family. Making a serious criminal into a hero is a disgrace to those who have infected so many minds with their fictitious made up stories. And someone like Ian Jones did it only as a money making venture, nothing else.
SwingTheDoor and P B I believe we evolved from apes but I am catholic so I don’t know which to believe but I mainly stay with the apes due to scientific evidence
Did a lone paranormal investigation at the Old Melbourne Gaol many years ago (not uploaded) and listening back to what I captured, the spirits there think Ned is a 'wanker' because he's lauded as some kind of 'god'. Was hilarious listening back to my footage. One day I'll upload it.
Perhaps we could say Ned Kelly is 'the stuff of legend'.. Thanks for the report. Great to hear these details about his fascinating life and death during such hard times for Australians.
Jason Mitchell Ned Kelly is not the stuff of legend. He was a vicious murdering criminal.
A legend only in the minds of the ignorant. Ned Kelly was never a legend.
@@bradwilliams7212 Correct, was never a legend when he was alive, but a legend in the making.
@@jasonmitchell8712 At the time of his hanging and for decades afterwards, he was never considered a legend. He was loathed in his district, and the residents were glad to see the back of him. The only people who tried to make his a legend were pro Kelly authors, who made up copious myths about him. Those myths are presently being removed from government websites all over Australia,
@@bradwilliams7212
Perhaps look up the meaning of the word 'legend'? Its fitting for what we're both describing here.
Wouldn't be the first time governments have erased / altered history. We're seeing a lot of this across the board. What your describing sounds like a page out 1984. “HE WHO CONTROLS THE PAST CONTROLS THE FUTURE. HE WHO CONTROLS THE PRESENT CONTROLS THE PAST.” They're potentially hiding any proof that their police were thugs, and there was any possibility of a rebellion. I wouldn't trust the government or police then, nor would i now.
Im not suggesting Kelly was an angel by anymeans...they were harsh and brutal times. It makes for an interesting record on Victorias history.
The Symbol of bravery is he.Took a stand against greed and corruption. The legend continues
RUBBISH. Ned Kelly NEVER stood against greed or corruption. You could not provide one iota of evidence to support your fictitious comment. I challenge you to provide evidence?
More lies from Mick. You are a disgrace to this nation.
As you claim there was greed and corruption, show us your evidence. You will not return as what you have stated is fictitious rubbish.
@@bradwilliams7212shut up you troll
Bravery ? To point a loaded weapon at unarmed civilians
Fascinating. A reason to visit Melbourne. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@MatMcLachlanHistory It was simply marvellous. Thankyou Matt
a son of irish immigrants who becomes an austrailian icon....a symbol of pure australian independence....born out of a hatred of how his people were treated by the evil empire....his name is has gone down in legend..................
Evil empire??
@@DarwinNorth the british one,,,,
@@jamescopen9817So why did Ned murder three Irish policemen and harass neighbouring Irish farmers??
@@DarwinNorth which Irish neighbours were these?
@@DaveGibs-xb7wo Good to see you're not denying he murdered 3 Irish policemen,
R.I.P mate..
Remembrance day is about remembering everyone who gave their life on all sides in wars past. Reflecting and trying to not repeat past mistakes. Unlike veterans day and memorial day in the U.S which teaches reflection on themselves only selfishly.
Looking at him, he could be my son. My own sons both serve in the ADF, Navy, and Air Force. My eldest, he has a beard, not as long as Ned’s, obviously. It’s kept neatly groomed. And, the hair isn’t much different. My son has that heavy brow too. Just makes me sad. Such is life, I suppose 🍻
The attempted murder of Fitzpatrick cannot be confirmed due to conflicting stories and Victoria Police later said Fitzpatrick wasn’t a reliable figure. Three police unfortunately did lose their lives at Stringybark Creek, not sure it’s murder as again conflicting stories. It’s plausible that they shootout was started by police and the Kelly’s had to shoot back in self defence. In my view why this story hits accord with Aussies is Ned’s mateship qualities of looking after his mates & his bush skills in coming up with the armour idea + fight against crooked police & burning of the locals bank mortgage documents: everyone hates banks!
Travel Solo. What you have stated is fiction through and through. The evidence of Constable McIntyre was supported by the autopsy reports provided by Dr. Samuel Reynolds.
At Stringybark Creek, it was Ned Kelly that opened fire first. Let there be no doubt about that. Lonigan did not have a weapon in hand when he was gunned down by Ned Kelly.
Scanlan fell off his horse AFTER Ned Kelly opened fire on him and Sgt Kennedy. He was on the ground on all fours and trying to rise when Ned Kelly shot him in the chest, killing him. He did not have a weapon in hand at the time.
You claim crooked police, but the Royal Commission found the police acted honourably and properly in dealing with the extensive criminality of the Kelly's.
You are repeating fiction, myths and lies.
An ambush is murder
@@lapalad there are conflicting stories of what exactly occurred at Stringybark Creek and the trial was rushed thru in just over one day so as Judge Barry could attend his Spring Carnival and Melbourne Cuo. Ned Kelly was convicted of only Lonigan’s murder.
@@travelsolo2677 Conflicting?? From who??
@@travelsolo2677 The trial was on the 27th 28th October plenty of time before Melbourne cup and what source did you get this oral history from???
Also the day that john curr decided to sack the best government that Australia ever had
So sad to hear the poor judge passed away the day after his ruling of MR Ned Kelly, something tells me he(THE JUDGE) should have been more "HUMANE" AND "FAIR"
The judge was humane and fair and was ahead of his time for fair dealings with indigenous people in Australia and pardoning the Eureka stockade rebels.
@@DarwinNorthbut not with Ned.
@DaveGibs-xb7wo Ask the 2 pregnant women widowed and 9 children left fatherless by Neds murderous rage if the sentence was justified
@@DarwinNorth I didn't know that judge Barry had 9 children and left 2 pregnant women, but it doesn't surprise me one little bit
@@DaveGibs-xb7wo You have no idea
yes thats my Birthday on the 11 of 11, November good year yes
He’s my family
Aren't you ashamed to have a murderer in your family?
Just a small point. Between 1885 and the present, 103,021 Australian servicemen and women have been killed on operations.
@@ray.shoesmith what exactly has that got to do with Ned Kelly?
Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Excellent
Is this a radio show?
No pictures.
It's a new-fangled thing called a 'podcast' apparently.
@@ray.shoesmithSay what?
what time was he hung ?
You do not hung people. He was hanged just a few minutes after 10am.
Sam Sabastian no need to get all technical
@@Alexandros.Konstantinos That is not technical. It is just correcting poor English.
@@pb3615 did Ned Kelly shoot dead your relative back in the day? Just wondering cause u seem to really hate NK... are u a fitzpatrick, curnow or a lonigan?
@@joeb4927 Not at all Jay B. I am just someone who wants to show Ned Kelly for what he was, instead of him being lauded by falsehoods, fiction and made up rubbish.
He was a very serious criminal in the same vein as Ivan Milat, Carl Williams and the Moran family.
Making a serious criminal into a hero is a disgrace to those who have infected so many minds with their fictitious made up stories. And someone like Ian Jones did it only as a money making venture, nothing else.
No person is all good or all bad...
No person is omniscient either...
I am
You are watching me for no reason thank you for that but I know I am right .
He's my cuzen
SwingTheDoor and P B I believe we evolved from apes but I am catholic so I don’t know which to believe but I mainly stay with the apes due to scientific evidence
Definitely 😒
FFS learn how to spell.
He's my brother
Did he teach you how to spell?
Did a lone paranormal investigation at the Old Melbourne Gaol many years ago (not uploaded) and listening back to what I captured, the spirits there think Ned is a 'wanker' because he's lauded as some kind of 'god'. Was hilarious listening back to my footage. One day I'll upload it.
Bahahah I almost thought you were been serious till I realised it was a piss take😂
@@adriandevil7232 True story.
@@gHOSTbITCHES do share! please.
@@jasonmitchell8712 If I can find a way somehow to charge the tablet it's recorded on then I'll work on it to upload.
Sounds like a lot of goona to me