For the most part women are orders of magnitude more unreasonable and vindictive bosses than men. Especially to other women. Everyone honest will admit this.
As a woman in corporate HR, I couldn't agree more. The vast majority of bullying complaints is women against other women. Women managers are ruthless, straight up corporate terror*sts I like to call them. I can't wait to have my baby, be a stay at home mom and serve my family instead. Tired of the toxic environment women create in the workplace.
My mother worked in the same job for years as a staff pathologist at a hospital. She worked her way up to Assistant Chief of the d😮epartment, as well as Chief of Laboratory Services, all under male supervisors. She regularly received outstanding performance evaluations and everyone in the department respected her. The minute they brought in a female chief from another hospital she started getting average or below average evaluations and citations in her file. Unlike the Department Chief my mother was board certified in both anatomical and clinical pathology. The new female Chief was only certified in clinical, meaning she couldn't perform autopsies without my mother present. Also there was another female pathologist on staff who quit from frustration under the new female Chief.
Spot on Janice. In discussions, I have often pointed out the need for comparative data when researching bias. It seems fundamental to me if you are insisting that certain demographics deserve special treatment. Unfortunately this is usually dismissed as "whataboutism". It seems to me that the entire feminist movement can be dismissed under the same rules.
I was doing a critique of a Pew report for a technical writing class. The report was on women in CEO positions and high level political office. I pointed out that the target audience was women in business and feminists. The report used solid data that women are making a lot of progress. The report then went on to opinion polls about perceived qualities of leadership and qualities of women. I pointed out that the polls were likely bias due to non-response rates. Some lady started arguing that I was the one who was bias. I told her this is a writing class not a political debate. I found it interesting that she would attack me for not taking it at face value. How dare I think critically in a critique.
So you don’t like it when men treat you like women. We can treat you like men treat men. That can be pretty rough. We can treat you like women treat other women. Despite all the talk of sisterhood, you know you wouldn’t like that. Or we can treat you like women treat men. You can’t handle that.
These examples point out the absurdity, Good on ya for that. But they're fighting fire with fire. One may just treat everyone nicely and equally until one proves that they need boundaries set or even protection or protective force. Sure are a lot of people I don't want to associate with and I can't help but notice patterns...
Janice wrote an essay that began something to the effect of "Indeed, why do we need men," around 2015-2016. I greatly enjoyed that essay. If it could be uploaded I would love to share it with my wife.
I have seen some women cops trying to apprehend a female suspect and it was funnier than the keystone cops. I am all for equal pay for equal work but I also think you need to be qualified. I also believe in reality and a lot of women are going to get smacked in the face by it if they don't get rid of many of their delusional fantasies and stop trying to be men but be the best woman you can be.
Janice, truly hope you read this. Old age fascinates me because it proves the 'Bard' was right when he said 'All the world is a stage - the men and women mere actors - Nothing changes but the stage setting and cast as time moves on . . . The script always remains the same ! The play we are watching today was described in perfect detail by the remarkable Henry Lewis Mencken back in 1920 in his essay 'In Defense of Women'. (Available at Gutenberg as text or at Libravox for audio . . . with a reader-voice that is pure perfect. Urge all who have read this to meet him if you haven't done so already. Guarantee you will like, agree and be astonished by the accuracy of his predictions about feminism & world politics by the 1990 decade.
Schrodinger's feminist. "I FEEL like a victim", or " I FEEL like a strong, empowered woman"....."depending on how I FEEL at any given time, taking into account that how I FEEL is also YOUR fault".
A pig; a pig that wanted top overthrow a man who provided food, shelter, sanitation, protection from predators and gave them medical care (vet), but in doing so the pig became the oppressor that they thought that the farmer was. Sound familiar?
This is neither here now there, but listening to your voice takes me back to my youth in Atlantic Canada listening to CBC programs before it went completely insane. That essentially examining and considered tone and accent.
Interestingly, I work in mining areas where there are a lot of women doing dirty jobs. They are preferred as truck drivers, much gentler on the gear. But they also get a lot of work related injury from doing normal duties, not accidents. Many are just not robust enough for 12 hr shifts driving heavy machinery over unpaved roads.
They also appear to be extremely susceptible to what they call 'psychosocial' injuries down here in Australia. They can sue their employers and receive insurance payments meant for physically injured workers by claiming the way their boss spoke to them made them feel sad.
I work at Walmart. And my female friends they’re all make the same claims that the women of the studies were claiming so it doesn’t matter what field you’re in, this is once again, a big difference between men and females. Men are used to being critiqued. Women think they’re the only ones in the world being critiqued, and it sounds like the study was definitely confirmation bias.
I think it’s more subtle than that. Men, when in a competitive environment, think they need to adapt to the conditions and perform better to get the results they want: “Play Better” is the response to most complaints in pro golf. Women, OTOH, have a first instinct that the game needs to change so that they get the results they want. So you get and endless string of complaints.
Most human beings stop desiring equality, when they realize: Equality of opportunity and under the law means all of us have to take accountability for behavior. Who the hell really wants that?
In the words of Buffy (the vampire slayer), "Does the word DUH mean anything to you?" You could not be more correct. I adore women. They are wonderful. My mother, wife, sister, and daughter happen to be women. I love them all dearly. But NONE of them have an inclination toward STEM fields. So while there may be some delightful exceptions to the rule women, generally speaking, gravitate toward other walks of life. My two cents.... (Thanks for the video.)
There was one woman in my son’s electronics university course and she was made such a fuss of over the men. She was used in advertising and given all the help. She eventually dropped out of the course and the men probably were just ignored yet again. They probably still use her image in the advertising even though she didn’t stay the course. My son luckily had a great tutor and did very well coming out with a full honours Bachelor’s degree.
worked with nurses for 10years as a trainer to nurses ,i find if the nurse was too pretty or smarter or harder worker than them, women always discounted them for further the field jealousies seem to be a womans demand for both men and women, you cannot be better than there in securities. else they would have to work harder or be better they hate competition. yet they want the best in everything makes no sence thank god for men who dont work in limitations of women lust and greed.
When I dressed up in drag and went out in public for the first time, I learned what it was like to get a compliment from a stranger, for the first time.
Are not all these just normal human insecurities? Don't we all feel conflict with work and personal life? Has not everyone been questioned about their competence professionally at sometime?
Ada Lovelace, English mathematician and writer (1815-1852) did fine for herself during the bad old patriarchy days. Now all stem fields are open to women and according to the study you cite, 1/3 of women STEM professionals feel that they were treated completely fairly. How did a full 1/3 feel satisfied? What made their working conditions so different? 29% of the US Congress are women. That's pretty close to 33.33%. I see equality of opportunity working fine for those women so inclined.
I suspect that the overwhelming number of candidates for Congress are male (let's say 95%). Only 66% of Congress being male suggests that the bias is in favor of women.
Unreasonable and difficult work places are a way of life for men. Yes, I saw many, many examples of females at work, all the way up to C-Suite level, showing cleavage and leg to get preferential treatment or things their way in meetings. It was very blatant, because they wouldn't dress that way otherwise. When I was pursuing my computer science masters back in 1993, the best I was able to get was a $1,000 scholarship for a 4.0 GPA. Women, on the other hand, were offered $14,000 fellowships for a mere 2.0 GPA. Never mind that 3.0 was the minimum GPA to be in the masters program ... for men anyway.
Dear Janice, I enjoy your videos enormously, but if you are/were a professor of English you should know not to add the bogus word "out" to a verb like "sought". 07:00 "But that's not what these researchers sought out." Ouch!
the university down the street from me has a women's business center. Amazon has preferential treatment for women owned businesses. the school I attended has special scholarships for women. women are eligible for no bid contracts that men are not eligible for. google has a women's startup accelerator. women can join the police, the military or firefighting with lowered standards. women in the aggregate are net tax recipients, men are net tax payers. men are forced to serve in the selective service in order to vote, but women are exempt from the draft. there are a lot more men than women who are homeless but there is no effort to equalize that. the average man pays anywhere between 25 to 65 percent of his income to pay for social entitlements, which is more than serfs were made to pay during feudalism. Social security and medicare are insanely bad investments for men both because men pay more in taxes and don't live as long. women complain about the pay gap but fail to note that men are much more likely to be injured on the job. Reply 26 Reply
Jesus christ I'm not a parent, but for all my friends who are parents, pretty much everything about being a parent is in conflict with every other part of their lives. Seriously... they talk about it.
No issue with this content. There's much to concurr with here. I wonder however, what you think about what l consider to be the rank misogyny of genderist men demanding access to women's protected spaces and sports, crisis centres, prisons etc.
it's women who support this crap and vote in politicians that want transgenders in women's bathrooms. Again this is a woman created problem. not men in general. not sane men anyway
Equity or equality do NOT exist in nature except in the broadest sense imaginable (e.g. horses normally have four legs, etc.). For instance, Silverback Gorillas are normally twice the size of female gorillas. Humans vary remarably in personal determination and IQ. Hence, it would be staggering in nature to discover a species that is sexually dimorphic with a very long maturity process in which the male and female were essentially the same. In short, Feminist ideology is built on loose sand.
What are you talking about? If you are bad at your job your gender doesnt matter, fake it till you make it is given to people with self doubt. We say fake it untill you make t in the context that you actually have what it takes you just dont believe you do, so in your mind you are a fake untill you have all the achievements of the real deal (you got an award for good performance or something of the sort) before that, you could have graduated university in engineering but you would still be a "fake engineer" untill you finished your first sucessfull project at work.
Women are given the same advice. Everyone is given the same advice you dunce. Women's competency is questioned because of affirmative action being entrenched in the labor market, leading to millions of objectively incompetent women being hired over men. Women deserve to have their competency questioned.
"The best way to find out if somebody actually wants equality is to give it to them". Paul Elam - An Ear for Men.
For the most part women are orders of magnitude more unreasonable and vindictive bosses than men. Especially to other women. Everyone honest will admit this.
Men have boundaries. [Birthing persons] don't.
For the most part women are orders of magnitude more unreasonable and vindictive than men.
Women are orders of magnitude more unreasonable and vindictive people in general.
As a woman in corporate HR, I couldn't agree more. The vast majority of bullying complaints is women against other women. Women managers are ruthless, straight up corporate terror*sts I like to call them. I can't wait to have my baby, be a stay at home mom and serve my family instead. Tired of the toxic environment women create in the workplace.
My mother worked in the same job for years as a staff pathologist at a hospital. She worked her way up to Assistant Chief of the d😮epartment, as well as Chief of Laboratory Services, all under male supervisors. She regularly received outstanding performance evaluations and everyone in the department respected her. The minute they brought in a female chief from another hospital she started getting average or below average evaluations and citations in her file. Unlike the Department Chief my mother was board certified in both anatomical and clinical pathology. The new female Chief was only certified in clinical, meaning she couldn't perform autopsies without my mother present. Also there was another female pathologist on staff who quit from frustration under the new female Chief.
Only when it benefits them!
If it unpleasant, dirty, dangerous or in anyway icky then no equality is desired!
Notice how they always angle for the *_high prestige_* positions...
They only want occupations where they can wear high heels.
Discrimination against men is literally entrenched in the labor market.
It's en masse and widespread.
"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others."
"We have to prove ourselves!"
Well, duh... That's how work is. That's how life is!
lol The fact that they say that is just mind boggling.
Women arent made for success in pretty much everything.
They evolved to giddily take care of kids.
As a man, I also have to prove my competences and my skills every day. It is a part of my job.
None is definitively set.
On AND off the job!
Spot on Janice. In discussions, I have often pointed out the need for comparative data when researching bias. It seems fundamental to me if you are insisting that certain demographics deserve special treatment. Unfortunately this is usually dismissed as "whataboutism". It seems to me that the entire feminist movement can be dismissed under the same rules.
if feminism's 'the patriarchy' exists, feminism wouldn't.
I was doing a critique of a Pew report for a technical writing class. The report was on women in CEO positions and high level political office. I pointed out that the target audience was women in business and feminists. The report used solid data that women are making a lot of progress. The report then went on to opinion polls about perceived qualities of leadership and qualities of women. I pointed out that the polls were likely bias due to non-response rates. Some lady started arguing that I was the one who was bias. I told her this is a writing class not a political debate. I found it interesting that she would attack me for not taking it at face value. How dare I think critically in a critique.
So you don’t like it when men treat you like women.
We can treat you like men treat men. That can be pretty rough.
We can treat you like women treat other women. Despite all the talk of sisterhood, you know you wouldn’t like that.
Or we can treat you like women treat men. You can’t handle that.
Should they [feminists] even be afforded a choice on that score after all the crap they've pulled? I'm going with Option D, full stop.
These examples point out the absurdity, Good on ya for that. But they're fighting fire with fire.
One may just treat everyone nicely and equally until one proves that they need boundaries set or even protection or protective force.
Sure are a lot of people I don't want to associate with and I can't help but notice patterns...
THIS
Glad to see you back at it, Janice!
Janice wrote an essay that began something to the effect of "Indeed, why do we need men," around 2015-2016. I greatly enjoyed that essay. If it could be uploaded I would love to share it with my wife.
A real professor from my Alma Mater , M Ed (1979)
Full respect for this Prof
I remember when you first came out with the fiamengo files, it changed my life
No. Plain & simple. Only some are asking to be firemen or cops, let alone infantry. But they all wanna be CEOs.
Which women will be picking up the garbage and toxic waste? Asking for a friend..
I have seen some women cops trying to apprehend a female suspect and it was funnier than the keystone cops. I am all for equal pay for equal work but I also think you need to be qualified. I also believe in reality and a lot of women are going to get smacked in the face by it if they don't get rid of many of their delusional fantasies and stop trying to be men but be the best woman you can be.
No, they do not. Most women do not want to CEOs because of the many hours required to be away from home and family.
"I am not a social scientist?" I think that you are quite a good one! Even if it is not your primary area of expertise.
9:25 Crucial to note: they *feel* like they have to do both. Remember, they also *feel* like men want them to slather on pounds of makeup
Are they stupid then?
@@WallyPyneoil Some of them confuse feelings with facts, so you could say irrational.
Thanks!
Janice, truly hope you read this.
Old age fascinates me because it proves the 'Bard' was right when he said 'All the world is a stage - the men and women mere actors - Nothing changes but the stage setting and cast as time moves on . . . The script always remains the same !
The play we are watching today was described in perfect detail by the remarkable Henry Lewis Mencken back in 1920 in his essay 'In Defense of Women'. (Available at Gutenberg as text or at Libravox for audio . . . with a reader-voice that is pure perfect.
Urge all who have read this to meet him if you haven't done so already. Guarantee you will like, agree and be astonished by the accuracy of his predictions about feminism & world politics by the 1990 decade.
These are awesome
Glad it a woman that is talking about this. I have noticed this all along my career.
Appreciate ya. Thanks for sharing.
Schrodinger's feminist. "I FEEL like a victim", or " I FEEL like a strong, empowered woman"....."depending on how I FEEL at any given time, taking into account that how I FEEL is also YOUR fault".
Whichever is more personally expedient at any given moment.
@@Xbalanque84 s.ubject to change in mood ..whim ..shere capriciousness..
Who am I quoting? Everyone is equal but some are more equal than others
A pig; a pig that wanted top overthrow a man who provided food, shelter, sanitation, protection from predators and gave them medical care (vet), but in doing so the pig became the oppressor that they thought that the farmer was. Sound familiar?
Animal Farm
This is neither here now there, but listening to your voice takes me back to my youth in Atlantic Canada listening to CBC programs before it went completely insane. That essentially examining and considered tone and accent.
Interestingly, I work in mining areas where there are a lot of women doing dirty jobs. They are preferred as truck drivers, much gentler on the gear.
But they also get a lot of work related injury from doing normal duties, not accidents.
Many are just not robust enough for 12 hr shifts driving heavy machinery over unpaved roads.
They also appear to be extremely susceptible to what they call 'psychosocial' injuries down here in Australia. They can sue their employers and receive insurance payments meant for physically injured workers by claiming the way their boss spoke to them made them feel sad.
I worked for years logging and in sawmills and never saw a woman with steel toe boots on.
I worked in a steel foundry. Never saw that wither
I work at Walmart. And my female friends they’re all make the same claims that the women of the studies were claiming so it doesn’t matter what field you’re in, this is once again, a big difference between men and females. Men are used to being critiqued. Women think they’re the only ones in the world being critiqued, and it sounds like the study was definitely confirmation bias.
I think it’s more subtle than that.
Men, when in a competitive environment, think they need to adapt to the conditions and perform better to get the results they want: “Play Better” is the response to most complaints in pro golf.
Women, OTOH, have a first instinct that the game needs to change so that they get the results they want. So you get and endless string of complaints.
Most human beings stop desiring equality, when they realize: Equality of opportunity and under the law means all of us have to take accountability for behavior. Who the hell really wants that?
This reminds me of the "scar test" where make up was applied to give a false scar. A very enlightening experiment.
In the words of Buffy (the vampire slayer), "Does the word DUH mean anything to you?" You could not be more correct. I adore women. They are wonderful. My mother, wife, sister, and daughter happen to be women. I love them all dearly. But NONE of them have an inclination toward STEM fields. So while there may be some delightful exceptions to the rule women, generally speaking, gravitate toward other walks of life. My two cents.... (Thanks for the video.)
There was one woman in my son’s electronics university course and she was made such a fuss of over the men. She was used in advertising and given all the help. She eventually dropped out of the course and the men probably were just ignored yet again. They probably still use her image in the advertising even though she didn’t stay the course. My son luckily had a great tutor and did very well coming out with a full honours Bachelor’s degree.
worked with nurses for 10years as a trainer to nurses ,i find if the nurse was too pretty or smarter or harder worker than them, women always discounted them for further the field jealousies seem to be a womans demand for both men and women, you cannot be better than there in securities. else they would have to work harder or be better they hate competition. yet they want the best in everything makes no sence thank god for men who dont work in limitations of women lust and greed.
She's an equity hire and you can't question her competence? Sheesh
'institutional sexism' in the west does indeed exist.
it's called *"misandry"*
That’s like asking, ‘would billionaires want more money’?
You cant be equal when you have half the energy. 😂😂😂
When I dressed up in drag and went out in public for the first time, I learned what it was like to get a compliment from a stranger, for the first time.
😢
Pls don’t resort to drag just for compliments from deranged Libs
How old is this? I did not think she was still making these videos.
It was made several years ago I think. I remember seeing this one some time ago.
Are not all these just normal human insecurities? Don't we all feel conflict with work and personal life? Has not everyone been questioned about their competence professionally at sometime?
Great content. I love your work Janice. Really important discussion and your no nonsense insight and scrutiny is second to none. Thank you
Ada Lovelace, English mathematician and writer (1815-1852) did fine for herself during the bad old patriarchy days. Now all stem fields are open to women and according to the study you cite, 1/3 of women STEM professionals feel that they were treated completely fairly. How did a full 1/3 feel satisfied? What made their working conditions so different?
29% of the US Congress are women. That's pretty close to 33.33%.
I see equality of opportunity working fine for those women so inclined.
I suspect that the overwhelming number of candidates for Congress are male (let's say 95%). Only 66% of Congress being male suggests that the bias is in favor of women.
Let me get this straight. Women felt that other women being mean to them was ... men's fault?!? 🙄
Unreasonable and difficult work places are a way of life for men. Yes, I saw many, many examples of females at work, all the way up to C-Suite level, showing cleavage and leg to get preferential treatment or things their way in meetings. It was very blatant, because they wouldn't dress that way otherwise.
When I was pursuing my computer science masters back in 1993, the best I was able to get was a $1,000 scholarship for a 4.0 GPA. Women, on the other hand, were offered $14,000 fellowships for a mere 2.0 GPA. Never mind that 3.0 was the minimum GPA to be in the masters program ... for men anyway.
9:50 Well it sure was a great idea doing the whole Believe All Women thing then eh? Now they're more isolated and lacking mentorship than ever!
And I am past the point of caring. Until _they_ apologize and restart the old reciprocity our society needs to function, they can kick rocks.
One wonders why they need mentorship by men, why can't they do their job by themselves?
Dear Janice, I enjoy your videos enormously, but if you are/were a professor of English you should know not to add the bogus word "out" to a verb like "sought". 07:00 "But that's not what these researchers sought out." Ouch!
Grammar police reporting for duty
"Let god sort them out"
the university down the street from me has a women's business center. Amazon has preferential treatment for women owned businesses. the school I attended has special scholarships for women. women are eligible for no bid contracts that men are not eligible for. google has a women's startup accelerator. women can join the police, the military or firefighting with lowered standards. women in the aggregate are net tax recipients, men are net tax payers. men are forced to serve in the selective service in order to vote, but women are exempt from the draft. there are a lot more men than women who are homeless but there is no effort to equalize that. the average man pays anywhere between 25 to 65 percent of his income to pay for social entitlements, which is more than serfs were made to pay during feudalism. Social security and medicare are insanely bad investments for men both because men pay more in taxes and don't live as long. women complain about the pay gap but fail to note that men are much more likely to be injured on the job.
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Jesus christ I'm not a parent, but for all my friends who are parents, pretty much everything about being a parent is in conflict with every other part of their lives. Seriously... they talk about it.
No issue with this content. There's much to concurr with here. I wonder however, what you think about what l consider to be the rank misogyny of genderist men demanding access to women's protected spaces and sports, crisis centres, prisons etc.
So women who have and continue to demand access to men's protected spaces (if there even are any anymore) are misandrists, right?
it's women who support this crap and vote in politicians that want transgenders in women's bathrooms. Again this is a woman created problem. not men in general. not sane men anyway
Equity or equality do NOT exist in nature except in the broadest sense imaginable (e.g. horses normally have four legs, etc.). For instance, Silverback Gorillas are normally twice the size of female gorillas. Humans vary remarably in personal determination and IQ. Hence, it would be staggering in nature to discover a species that is sexually dimorphic with a very long maturity process in which the male and female were essentially the same. In short, Feminist ideology is built on loose sand.
your video is a decade old - i don't think WANT has anything to with equality .
Who let this woman out of the kitchen
men are often given advice to go into a job and "fake it till you make it"... I can't imagine that resulting in their competency being questioned.
What are you talking about? If you are bad at your job your gender doesnt matter, fake it till you make it is given to people with self doubt. We say fake it untill you make t in the context that you actually have what it takes you just dont believe you do, so in your mind you are a fake untill you have all the achievements of the real deal (you got an award for good performance or something of the sort) before that, you could have graduated university in engineering but you would still be a "fake engineer" untill you finished your first sucessfull project at work.
Women are given the same advice.
Everyone is given the same advice you dunce.
Women's competency is questioned because of affirmative action being entrenched in the labor market, leading to millions of objectively incompetent women being hired over men.
Women deserve to have their competency questioned.
That's interesting. I was adviced to show my competence, repeatedly.
The colleagues I've seen trying to fake it have been largely women.
@@sneezyfido ok . and . The colleagues I've seen trying to fake it have been large men
@@farrellhuff3889 so between us we show that it's really stupid to make it gendered.
Maybe you shouldn't