E > 2NA > E > Burst (1), E (immediately after burst) [2], 1NA > E (3), 1-2NA > (4), 1-2NA > E [5]. the key to burning/burgeon teams is to immediately use his burst after the first cannon. and because the Burning/Burgeon reaction happens during the Burst animation, this fills up his Nightsoul Points allowing you to instantly E after the Burst animation.
All true, except getting nightsoul points during burst animation via burgeon is much more... Complicated? You need hydro, dendro and pyro application independent of your NAs, which is only possible with a handful of characters. Its much more consistent to get the points during burst with a burn team.
@@mainactor5547 I'm assuming this is c1? I honestly don't see the point of this since you're most like just gonna press e most of the time instead of aiming it but hey, it's just me
We can, its just hard to get the full effect. With just kinich on the team, you get 1 of the 2 stacks of extra damage, but just with the initial cannon
Like most male DPSes in Genshin, they have to work for their damage, and their damage per rotation may be higher, but females get the one button maximum damage mechanic. Even Nuve, best male Hydro DPS is a charge that hit multi times, while Natlan Girl (forgot her name) one skill hit away from wiping the field.
This is helpful because I have no clue what to do for his team comp. All I got so far is Bennet and Thoma. Rn I have Collei for battery purposes(and Deepwood 4pc), since I don’t like ZhongLi’s pillar getting in the way when moving around as Kinich
I learned a lot from watching this! Thank you! Quick question, so Earth Shaker is best for pyro reactions - does this include burgeon? Or is burgeon considered a dendro reaction?
Im confused since my kinich skill dmg does so low(40k-100k) even that hes maxed lvl 90, wpn eartth shaker r2 lvl 90. He got 4pc codex too - his crit stats 22.9/222.9 w dendro bonus 46% talents 1/8/6. Atk 2k+ I think talents are actually low, but i also think its alr decent enough so like.. Whats wrong here
Use bennet with nobless(mini 250 Er for constant bursts and crown bennets burst for more damage on cannon) and any character with deepwood memory plus increase the cr it's like 60 which is so low. Without crit kinich hits like 20-35k with crit he hits 240-270k (with bennet both) which is a huge damage loss.
Once he hit 80k raw damage without burning on a random hilichurl I was so surprised lol, I went to test him on cryo regesvine and he did 400k with burning he's so fun :D
After seeing his charged attack i realized, hes just a copy of Navia (kinda) >Both are 5 star claymore users >Both of them have the spinning weapon animation, kinichs CA and navias NA >Both utilize a reaction none cared about before (Crystalize and Burning) >Both have their bigger source of dmg coming from their elemental skill >both have a stack up mechanic to deal more dmg with their skill >both use normal attacks to help stack up that mechanic >both have elementak bursts that help out in some way their main source of dmg (Navias help fill up her stacks and Kinichs extend the duration of his mode) >both are very single target focused >both need bennett by default The thing is that, navia has only a 2 shots window to absolutely destroy her targets whereas kinich have a 4-5 window to do so and has more mobility (sometimes), so I take that they really just looked at Navia and thought yeah shes perfect lets just copy her and add a few more things and call it a day lmao
I agree with all of this except the single target focused comment. Kinich's big cannon shot is actually an AoE attack. Which means you can play him for AoE situations as well.
He kind of reminds me of Navia's playstyle plus he has shero emiya's VA and Ajaw is funny AF and also Naruto VA...basically Naruto and Sasuke lmao Anyway...artifacts has been a real issue, about 1k resin already spent and i haven't got a single good PC yet, so using substitute for now with 2pc golden torupe n 2pc glad. i have a question, when using his skill to do the normal atk to charge the nightsoul points, do i need to hold the mouse click till one curve done then do another hold on the mouse for next curve? or do i keep clicking the mouse like any normal atk?
Hi, thank you for the build, though i have some questions bout the teams Who can i use instead of bennet and dehya. I thought of using Xiangling as a pyro applicator, but there are scenarios where she doesn't even hit the enemy. Are there any good pyro applicators out there?
You can try using thoma as the pyro applicator. Just dump as much ER on him since his shield is... pretty much nonexistent even with high hp. As for Bennett, he's unfortunately needed for his teams since Kinich scales off atk.
please please PLEASE i need that Dehya build for kinich ToT I was planning on using the cinder city but found out it only has best potential if it's from natlan characters
wdym what his c1 does? its clear when u do a midair attack after u use his skill to swing in air , u get speed then just unconditionally 100% crit dmg for skill c2 is only rlly good for dendro res 100% more dmg on only first shit isnt THAT good anyway
Hmm i think im did smthnng wrong or i just dont know mechanics my kinnich is c0 earth shaker r3 40/210 his cannon skill is crowned and i still deal only abt 80k with bennet abt 116k
um... you should check my kinich he has more cd then yours but still does lot less dmg.... idk why it also has r2 earthshaker and 4 pcs obsidean talent lvl 2, 10, 2 , lvl 90 bennet with lvl 8 burst c2, and yanfie with thrilling tails for atk buff and 4 pcs deepwood for dendro res, and kachina so i get 2 nightsoul points for his 1st cannon shot, and he does only 176k after all that, and your kinich does 170k without thrilling tails and 2 nightsoul points, idk how is it possible
I have 53% crit rate and 133% crit damage but his mine only have 40k plus damage 🥲 I also pair him with Xiangling and Benett but still under 50k damage ☹️
My f2p kinich alone is better than yours. 34/217 ratio, 6/10/9 talent and craftable r4 but somewhat my dmg 107k. My Bennett is built with double crown and zhongli. Maybe because my newly pulled nahida is the prob? Or maybe because she's not recommended for the team? I dont wnna use xl anymore. I dont have dehya too. To conclude, thoma will solve this??
Nahida isn't really too good for him IMO since burning sucks and the buff from her burst only affects her E skill's raw DMG. The EM buff also doesn't do much Thoma is a nice choice for a pyro applicator and I suggest putting on 4pc deepwood on him for the additional shred. Still, XL is the best choice unfortunately
@@NekoneChannel it doesnt mention anything abt airborne attacks?? it just literally says +100% cdmg on E(Cannon) and +30% movement speed on swing mode? the 30% speed is for exploration qol
@@NekoneChannelThe first paragraph aka everything before the second sentence is structly abt his out of combat exploration. Grapple has 2 modes, swing freely without a target or hook onto an enemy. The first bit simply makes it so that when he uses his grapple in exploration mode, he gains a 30% movement speed for 6 seconds. Makes him amazing for exploring
Finally a REAL F2P player with high damage
E > 2NA > E > Burst (1), E (immediately after burst) [2], 1NA > E (3), 1-2NA > (4), 1-2NA > E [5].
the key to burning/burgeon teams is to immediately use his burst after the first cannon. and because the Burning/Burgeon reaction happens during the Burst animation, this fills up his Nightsoul Points allowing you to instantly E after the Burst animation.
Thx!
Thanks for the info
All true, except getting nightsoul points during burst animation via burgeon is much more... Complicated? You need hydro, dendro and pyro application independent of your NAs, which is only possible with a handful of characters. Its much more consistent to get the points during burst with a burn team.
His cannon shots get 100% extra damage and when kinich does his air attack, his movement speed is increased by 30%.
@@mainactor5547 I'm assuming this is c1? I honestly don't see the point of this since you're most like just gonna press e most of the time instead of aiming it but hey, it's just me
@@NekoneChannel most of his damage comes from it so I'd say it's nice
@@mainactor5547 I meant the airborne strike part, unless it's only meant for exploration?
@@NekoneChannel ohhh, yh that for exploration in natlan so u can stand on the floating platforms after u grapple
kinich and mulani are very easy to build, just focus on Critical damage and some EM. It makes it easier for newbies like me.
Em is useless on Kinich
@@herdiansyahdody I'd suggest ditching EM since burning sucks
Attack is more useful on Kinich and you would also like HP a lot on Mualani
Even with lvl 70 talent 4 he's hitting 80k with each e skill
In new abyss he hit 300k damage😮😮on 70lvl and 5lvl e-talent.
I level 80 talents at 5 and hit max 60k 😵
@@daiversonandrade9247 I have wgs on him, 50/170crit,full natlan artifact set. And he hit 300k in 11 floor abyss.
Now my record hit on kinich 950k+
Team?@@silverstap4806
Mines lvl 70 talent 7 and he’s only doing 30k. help
"since my substat rolls are ass" REAL
That's a nice build for him. Mine just has less than 200 cdmg because I can't get the substats...
@@zora-wk8bo I feel the substat pain bro
I got above 225 cd without any goblet and sand
Me crying with 160 cd
@@The_Magician74good for you I guess?🤣🤣
@@wab8458you and me both
His multipliers are craaaazy
thanks for your video, you show a real f2p kinich
thank you for watching
This is your reminder that shatter exists
Is this why all shatter characters are introverts
Ofc he's strong his elemental skill dmg have 1k multiplier
Bro my kinich have 90% crit rate(40% from obsidian) but he doesn't crit
Your support deserve to be mentioned well I have CR of 59 and CD232 yet I only reach 889k with him alone so basically supports also worth it
A video well made
thank you
2 months later and we still cant utilize one of his ascension passives
We can, its just hard to get the full effect. With just kinich on the team, you get 1 of the 2 stacks of extra damage, but just with the initial cannon
Kiniches c1 makes him the best exploration unit and a really strong dps
Kiniches c2 makes him the 3rd strongest dps in the game
Like most male DPSes in Genshin, they have to work for their damage, and their damage per rotation may be higher, but females get the one button maximum damage mechanic. Even Nuve, best male Hydro DPS is a charge that hit multi times, while Natlan Girl (forgot her name) one skill hit away from wiping the field.
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Chlorinde and Arlecchino
Good stuff, thank u bro.
@@oagardo thanks for watching
This is helpful because I have no clue what to do for his team comp. All I got so far is Bennet and Thoma. Rn I have Collei for battery purposes(and Deepwood 4pc), since I don’t like ZhongLi’s pillar getting in the way when moving around as Kinich
you can also put deepwood on thoma since he's technically just for burning
I learned a lot from watching this! Thank you!
Quick question, so Earth Shaker is best for pyro reactions - does this include burgeon? Or is burgeon considered a dendro reaction?
@@lizzard25 thanks for watching 😄 and yes, burgeon is dendro reaction iirc since it's affected by 4pc deepwood's dendro shred
Im confused since my kinich skill dmg does so low(40k-100k) even that hes maxed lvl 90, wpn eartth shaker r2 lvl 90. He got 4pc codex too - his crit stats 22.9/222.9 w dendro bonus 46% talents 1/8/6. Atk 2k+
I think talents are actually low, but i also think its alr decent enough so like.. Whats wrong here
Use bennet with nobless(mini 250 Er for constant bursts and crown bennets burst for more damage on cannon) and any character with deepwood memory plus increase the cr it's like 60 which is so low. Without crit kinich hits like 20-35k with crit he hits 240-270k (with bennet both) which is a huge damage loss.
Also only increase his skill to 10 his burst deal almost no damage at all
@@Dext69 so the less crit rate also affects his dmg??
@@Kasyxl it does not but like in spiral abyss if u miss a crit it costs a lot of damage loss.
@@Dext69 OKAY THEN Ill try my best to get him better artifacts to get his crit rate up, Tyy
The only torture in Genshin is resin. This makes farming for better artifacts more difficult!
@@senpaiwaifu9885 I wholeheartedly agree 😔
Once he hit 80k raw damage without burning on a random hilichurl I was so surprised lol, I went to test him on cryo regesvine and he did 400k with burning he's so fun :D
Whats your build and team ?
@vergil7814 I'm using the Natlan set, he has 43cr and 221cd and around 2500 attack, currently running him with Furina, Dehya and Bennet :D
what set on zhongli and dehya
I thought the damage said "800813"...
After seeing his charged attack i realized, hes just a copy of Navia (kinda)
>Both are 5 star claymore users
>Both of them have the spinning weapon animation, kinichs CA and navias NA
>Both utilize a reaction none cared about before (Crystalize and Burning)
>Both have their bigger source of dmg coming from their elemental skill
>both have a stack up mechanic to deal more dmg with their skill
>both use normal attacks to help stack up that mechanic
>both have elementak bursts that help out in some way their main source of dmg (Navias help fill up her stacks and Kinichs extend the duration of his mode)
>both are very single target focused
>both need bennett by default
The thing is that, navia has only a 2 shots window to absolutely destroy her targets whereas kinich have a 4-5 window to do so and has more mobility (sometimes), so I take that they really just looked at Navia and thought yeah shes perfect lets just copy her and add a few more things and call it a day lmao
I agree with all of this except the single target focused comment. Kinich's big cannon shot is actually an AoE attack. Which means you can play him for AoE situations as well.
He kind of reminds me of Navia's playstyle plus he has shero emiya's VA and Ajaw is funny AF and also Naruto VA...basically Naruto and Sasuke lmao
Anyway...artifacts has been a real issue, about 1k resin already spent and i haven't got a single good PC yet, so using substitute for now with 2pc golden torupe n 2pc glad.
i have a question, when using his skill to do the normal atk to charge the nightsoul points, do i need to hold the mouse click till one curve done then do another hold on the mouse for next curve? or do i keep clicking the mouse like any normal atk?
Hi, thank you for the build, though i have some questions bout the teams
Who can i use instead of bennet and dehya. I thought of using Xiangling as a pyro applicator, but there are scenarios where she doesn't even hit the enemy. Are there any good pyro applicators out there?
You can try using thoma as the pyro applicator. Just dump as much ER on him since his shield is... pretty much nonexistent even with high hp. As for Bennett, he's unfortunately needed for his teams since Kinich scales off atk.
HOW DID U GET THE WANDERS STRING KETTLE
How are you hitting 140k with the same cd as me and i only hit 80k (please reply i need to make my kinich stronger)
@@FoEGAMIN I use 4pc deepwood to shred dendro resist, 4pc millelith for more buffs and other stuff
@@NekoneChannel can you tell my how to build a good team for now i am using kinich burgeon with kinich benny yelan and thoma
And with wolf and spine weapon who is the best ?
my kinich team is burgeon only 37k-67k per elemental attack
Is this junkos theme from touhou? Love it
@@TheDeleteKey it's actually from a fanmade touhou game, but yeah it does sound a bit close 😀
waittt c1 is only for the first cannon shot??
nice
I'm not pullin for him but good luck to everyone else 😀
@@reiizuchan good luck on who you're pulling for next
@@NekoneChannel tysm :)
Do I need to have deep wood on one of the characters on ur team or I can just run them with their artifacts?
@@sayem22k73 deepwood will increase his dmg by quite a bit. In my case, I just slapped it on my dehya since I had no other choice
please please PLEASE i need that Dehya build for kinich ToT I was planning on using the cinder city but found out it only has best potential if it's from natlan characters
my dehya has 4pc deepwood and the bell lmao
With Raiden banner running along, can you do a f2p raiden build 🙏
@@matnasrin3479 I'll see what I can do, but don't take my word for it yet
@@NekoneChannel alright, take your time, really enjoying your content lately
I have 40 cr 200 cd 2300 atk but why mine hits only 150k?
For real mine max hit with my current team is 150 110 and my highest hit is 275k but i was in abyss 🥲
@@hoyala maybe you don't have someone with 4pc deepwood in the team?
@@NekoneChannel I have
What's your talent levels at?
@@NoobsiferPainting 4/10/8
wdym what his c1 does? its clear
when u do a midair attack after u use his skill to swing in air , u get speed
then just unconditionally 100% crit dmg for skill
c2 is only rlly good for dendro res
100% more dmg on only first shit isnt THAT good anyway
Hmm i think im did smthnng wrong or i just dont know mechanics my kinnich is c0 earth shaker r3 40/210 his cannon skill is crowned and i still deal only abt 80k with bennet abt 116k
my team rn is
kinich, nahida, xiang and bennet
should i replace nahida with yaoyao and xiang with thoma?
Replace Nahida with Thoma, but for Xiangling the issue is that it's gonna be a bit awkward to use a full deep wood on her, so yea Yaoyao works
what if i dont have zhongli and dehya?
@@magma_5o587 you can switch in Thoma with 4pc deepwood and the other slot for flex char
how to build dehya for him?
@@mewo6164 I just put 4pc deepwood on her
@@NekoneChannel What about sub and mainstats D:?
@@yukinekun5056 I did pure hp because she doesn't do dmg
um... you should check my kinich he has more cd then yours but still does lot less dmg.... idk why it also has r2 earthshaker and 4 pcs obsidean talent lvl 2, 10, 2 , lvl 90 bennet with lvl 8 burst c2, and yanfie with thrilling tails for atk buff and 4 pcs deepwood for dendro res, and kachina so i get 2 nightsoul points for his 1st cannon shot, and he does only 176k after all that, and your kinich does 170k without thrilling tails and 2 nightsoul points, idk how is it possible
I DONT KNOW HOW TO GET IT IM NEW TO THE GAME
I have 53% crit rate and 133% crit damage but his mine only have 40k plus damage 🥲
I also pair him with Xiangling and Benett but still under 50k damage ☹️
try utilizing 4pc deepwood and 4pc millelith sets to boost his dmg even more
Which character should i use i dont have furina
Pyro, geo, or any elem that doesn't interfere with burning in general. Bennet is a must as always though
@NekoneChannel can i use xingqu instead of furina?
@@EditGamer-hf2zd he applies too much hydro though
Instead of Dehya, maybe Yanfei TTDS? Since Dehya isn't doing much if you have Zhongli.
We need billet for earthshaker right ?
it was free from a web event
Didn't know
@@Assassin710 same, I just found out from one of my viewers
My kinich is lvl 70 with 30% crit rate 170% crit dmg Talent level 7 but only hits 30k max idk what I’m doing wrong
its simple really, have benny use the highest 5* wpn and a zhongli, also go for c5 benny too, it really is simple and f2p
bro i dont have zhongli what can i use instead 😢
you can use thoma as an alternative
bro get kachina onset to 40% dendro bonus
Cinder city set buffs the elements that react with the holder's element, and Geo can't react with Dendro
My kinich’s weapon is r5 and he is crowned, yet he does 200k only, im really a skill issue 😭😭😭
u just need a touch of emilie
My f2p kinich alone is better than yours. 34/217 ratio, 6/10/9 talent and craftable r4 but somewhat my dmg 107k. My Bennett is built with double crown and zhongli. Maybe because my newly pulled nahida is the prob? Or maybe because she's not recommended for the team? I dont wnna use xl anymore. I dont have dehya too. To conclude, thoma will solve this??
Nahida isn't really too good for him IMO since burning sucks and the buff from her burst only affects her E skill's raw DMG. The EM buff also doesn't do much
Thoma is a nice choice for a pyro applicator and I suggest putting on 4pc deepwood on him for the additional shred.
Still, XL is the best choice unfortunately
@@NekoneChannelwhat set should i use on her?
@@KrakenMusti1 XL? still 4pc emblem because of the energy problems
party build team please
@@KaizooCh they use the usual builds except dehya who had deepwood
the c1 is straightforward whats confusing abt that?
@@junko4155 the fact that you need to do an airborne attack despite not wanting to do an airborne attack, that's what
@@NekoneChannel it doesnt mention anything abt airborne attacks?? it just literally says +100% cdmg on E(Cannon) and +30% movement speed on swing mode? the 30% speed is for exploration qol
@@junko4155 2:23 "mid-air swing"
@@NekoneChannelThe first paragraph aka everything before the second sentence is structly abt his out of combat exploration. Grapple has 2 modes, swing freely without a target or hook onto an enemy. The first bit simply makes it so that when he uses his grapple in exploration mode, he gains a 30% movement speed for 6 seconds. Makes him amazing for exploring
how do yall get free earth shaker? I dont have one 😭😭
Web Event I think the event has expired now so you can just craft it
@@sua527 I also didn't know about the web event until someone pointed it out so don't worry, you're not alone
Prefer Dehya or xiangling?
@@Farziqblr XL definitely for more DPS, but Dehya can be good if you need interrupt resist and more shred via 4pc deepwood
😅 i already have him at 54% crit rate with the artifact buff.. that's total 94% with the new artificat
@@mikoroy8859 dayum
66 crit rate 216 crit damage and 2,500 atk, is that good?（＾ν＾）
Insane build, ofc its good bro
@@AnSo-713 sorry, I always overthink about it
@@Ellie0287 yep that's amazing
Are you running attack goblet? :o
@@Array_EB yup
Bro, I made him crit to 100% bcz his original crit rate is 65 😂😂
and here I thought you wouldn't make one bec he's a guy 😂 thanks for the video, I just got him earlier
@@keikihaniyasushin1661 eyy congrats on getting him
cap
bro is using zhongli and 5* wpn for bennet 💀💀💀 lil bro doesnt know what f2p is
title be like: F2P "Kinich" Build. KINICH, not them supports