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I really wish the studios would release the full ratio IMAX physical media for home use. They went through the trouble to edit them and then only showed them in a handful of theaters? I’d pay for that media, as would many home theater enthusiasts.
I have this wish every year when I blow out my candles. Still, only Nolan's releases do this. It's a shame. The aspect ratio changes are always exciting.
@@isaacbedford3644mah lad, learn to read and focus on the world enthusiasts. They will be people with proper projectors screening that beauty in their homes. Plus, fuck the box experience, people will pay to see those extra pixels on their favourite films.
People don’t fecking do the math or else they’d realize that 2.39:1 letterbox gives about as much of that oh-so-horrible BLACKNESS as the 1.43:1 does on a 16:9 movies. And don’y tell me hIpStErs with a home theatre cannot afford to totally dim the lights and close the drapes??
Just rewatched Interstellar in IMAX. Even though it was 1.9, my mind was absolutely BLOWN that a movie 10 years old had such immersive and realistic scenes that even Disney could not achieve. Again, it's no surprise coming from Christopher Nolan, but every time I see one of his movies like Oppenheimer or Interstellar or TDK (on my Blu Ray), I can say without a doubt that his movies have always been and still are ahead of his time. I think every movie filmed in IMAX should release their IMAX format in home media and I say this after being underwhelmed by Dune Part Two in Blu Ray, having watched it in IMAX.
I got to see it in 1.43:1 in GT laser. Beautiful, inspiring experience. I was trying to decide whether to commit to an extended trip for the 70mm film, but abandoned that idea when the closest theater capable of projecting said film (5+ hours one way) wasn’t send one for the event. After hearing stories about specificity some 70mm screenings breaking, I’m honestly hesitant to attempt seeing them in the future.
The 70mm IMAX theater near where I live closed a few years ago, it wasn't making enough money so IMAX corp decided to shut it down. I was so bummed since I've seen so many 70mm IMAX films there. I can confirm that Star Wars: Rogue One didn't have any aspect ratio changes, it was in 70mm print but the aspect ratio was 2.39:1. Also, Oblivion was shown in 1.90:1 aspect ratio, no 1.43:1, at least not at that 70mm IMAX theater that I saw it at.
I got to see Joker 2 in IMAX 70mm at the AMC Merton in San Fransisco, 75 foot tall by 97 foot wide screen, phenomenal experience and a nice touch that I could hear the projector flickering during quieter scenes. The full screen scenes were the 9th wonder of the world, that IMAX screen makes my 70 inch tv at home look like a pixel. For the Interstellar re-release I’ll be seeing it in an IMAX Dome theater in a museum in the Bay Area, that’ll be a unique experience of it’s own, can’t wait!
I got to see Oppenheimer and Dune 2 at the 70mm IMAX theater at the Indiana State Museum. I ended up seeing both movies again in fake IMAX at my local theater. The visual fidelity and the aspect ratios were so different, it was a completely different experience. If you have access to a theater and a movie that takes advantage of it, it is worth the price of admission.
I've seen Oppenheimer, Dune 2 and Interstellar in IMAX 1570. I'm so happy that Melbourne is one of many cities in the world to have the IMAX 1570 projector, the only 1570 projector in Australia.
Yeah, I go to IMAX Melb regularly, best cinema in the world! Still the best experience ever was Interstellar, seen it there twice now, hoping to again in the future!
@@RustedCognition It's one of my favourite cinemas ever. There's going to be a film festival next month where they are showing many IMAX fan favourite films. Very excited to go see a couple of films there.
THE FULL LIST: NOPE The Dark Knight (2008) Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009) Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol (2011) The Dark Knight Rises (2012) The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (2013) Interstellar (2014) Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) Appears to have been released in some sense in 1.43:1 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) Dunkirk (2017) First Man (2018) The Lion King (2019) Tenet (2020) Dune (2021) No Time to Die (2021) Eternals (2021) 1.43:1 aspect ratio (IMAX GT Laser venues only) Lightyear (2022) Oppenheimer (2023) Dune: Part Two (2024) The ant bully Happy Feet Kung Fu Panda (2008) Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa Joker: Folie a Deux Megalopolis Sinner (2025)
Can confirm that The Force Awakens was in 1.43:1 during at least one scene (the first scene of the Falcon flying on Jakku). I went to the IMAX in Toronto to see it.
I saw Joker 2 in IMAX 70mm. I like how you said it'll probably never be shown that way again. You're definitely right. I can this: the 70mm projection was absolutely the best part of the movie 🤣 Great video!!! Best, -FSD
I almost went to NYC to see it! But yeah haha, unless it turns into some sort of cult classic over the years it would be surprising to see it ever come back.
Fun little memory that seems relevant to the conversation. I watched Dune Part Two at a screening on the WB lot before seeing it in IMAX at Universal Citywalk. I am convinced I caught at least one shot that was cropped for IMAX. It was a close up of Paul. In the 2.39:1 version, the close up I am thinking of had a lot of negative space on either side of his face. In the IMAX version, Paul's face filled up the frame. While Dune Part Two is one of my two favorite films of 2024, I am much more partial to IMAX film than IMAX Digital. Also, Catching Fire was an AMAZING IMAX experience.
Nice! Sounds like quite the experience. I saw Oppenheimer in 15/70 IMAX but the power went out 3 times because of a thunderstorm. Fascinating experience What was your second favorite film of the year?
YOU BEAT ME TO IT. I was planning on making a video on this because I have many "normie" friends who are unclear on what makes Nolan IMAX films unique. But you did a great job in considering all aspects of this IMAX mystery.
@@NerdyRambling haha appreciate it! This is actually an update to one I made before too. But if you're interested in digging more into some IMAX related stuff I also made on every film that was shot with an IMAX camera 😉
If you google a photo comparing the different 1.43 imax screens, you will notice that their actual aspect ratios are quite inconsistent, some being as square as 1.30:1, some more rectangular, and the previous largest imax in Sydney having an aspect ratio of 1.21:1. So I am curious how they would handle the 1.43 release while also considering that the frame size of 15-perf 70mm is 1.33:1
Well most imax documentaries were fully shot with 70 mm.... But yeah, it would be a daunting achievment if nolan manages to do the same with an actual feature film.
I'm lucky to have the "world's tallest" 1.43:1 IMAX theatre just a 30 minute drive from my house. I've never been, and I wish I went for the TENET rerelease earlier this year because that would've been insane. I'm waiting for the next Christopher Nolan film to go to the actual IMAX theatre though.
I live close to IMAX Melbourne, the largest IMAX theatre with a 15/70 projector in the world (arguably the best cinema in the world, in my opinion), screen is 32m x 23m (105ft x 75ft). I have been lucky enough to see a large quantity of films in this format. They regularly do special events, re-screenings and have an extensive back log of film stock. I have seen: The Dark Knight in 1570 The Dark Knight Rises 1570 Interstellar 1570, twice Dune 4K digital Oppenheimer 1570 Dune Part Two 1570 and 4K laser (had to see twice, was so good) Joker: Folie A Deux 1570 (looked good, was not a great movie) Some honorable mentions that I have seen in this theatre, but not in the 1.43.1 are listed below, these are still some of my favorite cinema experiences. Batman Begins Blade Runner Blade Runner 2049 Spiderman Across the Spiderverse Alien: Romulus Godzilla Minus One Napoleon (looked good, was not a great film) The Creator Pacific Rim in IMAX 3D Booked to see: Inception And hopefully more in the future as they are constantly doing festivals and rescreening some of the best movies ever made!
i feel like the taller aspect ratio is too cramped and claustrophobic in this. Maybe because the subjects are a little too big or that when in IMAX it doesnt feel so square. idk
I saw Rogue one in 70mm imax at the IMAX theater at the Minnesota zoo, which unfortunately closed in 2019 and Glass was the last movie screened there. It was actually a full sized IMAX screen unlike the ones at AMC theaters. The last two movies I saw there were Blade runner 2049 and Dunkirk. I feel like the downfall of that theater was that it was operated under the oversight of the City of Apple Valley which is the city that it and The Zoo were/are located, and I feel that they were ignorant about how best to manage the theater. They seemed to operate it as you would imagine any regular multiplex movie theater is managed where every weekend they would screen that week's new release that had the most buzz, which with the higher ticket price than say your average movie ticket price probably isn't necessarily the ideal use of and one could see how if a movie isn't even presented in an IMAX format that it probably wouldn't have the draw to fill the seats consistently every weekend. I personally think that they probably would have been better off being much more selective about what movies they would pay for the opening weekend screening rights for, especially when I have to imagine screening older films is much more affordable presently as I know it once was which was why the $1 theater was once so commonplace, as opposed to the screening rights cost for new releases. So with the fact that the window is which one is able to get the chance to ever see a movie like Nolan films, the MCU movies, blade runner 2049, Dune, Nope, etc. in a full sized IMAX theater is so fleeting as it is, they probably could have done special screenings like half the year on weeks/weekends that there weren't new releases that made sense to pay the new release screening costs.
Must have been awesome to see Rogue One in 70mm! But yeah I agree with you about showing older films. I've heard they have been discussing upgrading some of these 70mm projectors so they can use them more. But the exclusivity of it also is super helpful in a sense to I'd imagine.
The 4 story 90 foot wide screen is quite a bit bigger than most of the IMAX screens at AMC theaters. We do still have one true IMAX theater here in Minnesota it's at the science museum, but I don't think that they screen scripted films.
Another honorable mention to add for a film shot with an IMAX camera but never shown in IMAX 1:43:1 is The Prestige. Particularly the scene where one of the twins played by Christian Bale cuts off the other twin brothers finger in the close up shot. This was confirmed by David Keighly on the Raiders of The Lost Podcast when he did an interview with them.
Drive four hours from Milwaukee to the Indiana State Museum in Indianapolis, the nearest capable theater, to see Interstellar in true 70mm IMAX (reel 38 they said!). Absolutely don’t regret it.
I'm a HUGE movie enthusiast lover especially horror movies, aspiring business owner and actress/thespian. I've already watched 58 movie releases in the movie theater this year. My absolute favorite movie screen is IMAX especially IMAX 3D! This was an insightful video! ❤❤❤❤🎬🎥🎟️🎞️🍿🥤
I am very upset that Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, Hunger games Catching Fire, Mission impossible Ghost Protocol, and No Time to Die all have their IMAX footage cropped to widescreen on the 4K Bluray home release, even though it could very well expand to the full 1.78:1 TV aspect ratio. I call this the "list of shame" since the Nolan 4K Blurays do such a great job of showing the IMAX footage at home. The force awakens and Dune would also be a part of that list, although I don't care as much about the films themselves so it doesn't really upset me all that much.
Not if you're pairing it with VFX which is the example I was using. I'm not saying you shouldn't use filters, I use them all the time. But it's useful to have tools like these for various editing situations and effects related work.
I don't understand the talk about how Dune was shot for imax and how that is the correct way to see it. As far as i can see it was shot on an alexa LF, which shoots in 2.39:1. So it would be a cropped release for imax right? Am i missing something?
They shot it with an Alexa 65, but on both the 65 and the Alexa LF in an open gate, you can get a 1.44:1 ratio for the ALEXA LF and a 1.78:1 for the 65 but you can crop in the sides or shoot like that in production and get 1.44:1 as well. A lot of film will shoot open gate and then crop in later. Here is an example of a film that was not supposed to show in IMAX but did later anyways --> th-cam.com/video/KOkHxrEcVk8/w-d-xo.html. You can see in this they have guidelines they will use for specific ratios, but they are still filming stuff outside of it too. Pretty much all of the ARRI cameras have the ability to do 1.43:1 ratio if they want to. But a lot of movies are "cropped" in after production. The difference with the DUNE films is they were shot specifically for the IMAX 1.43:1 aspect not cropped from a film not made with IMAX in mind after the fact to fit into that format. Hope that makes sense!
@@lewisjames4268 Thanks! And yeah they use an ARRI Alexa LF for that film so definitely enough there if they shot it Open gate to get to 1.43:1. From what I've seen it was formatted for 1.90:1 which is it's secondary and most common IMAX format
The only version of IMAX that matters is 15 perf 70mm IMAX. And even then, the only films worth seeing on that format are films shot on IMAX film cameras (IMAX licensing their name on the side of various Alexa and other digital cameras means absolutely nothing). Which pretty much limits the experience to Nolan movies. Digital cinematography or even 35mm blowup doesn’t cut it on those screens. The next in line for premium formats is Dolby Vision at an AMC Dolby Cinema. Hands down the greatest digital theatrical experience possible. Blows all digital IMAX theaters out of the water.
I would say that the production "Made for IMAX" is okay as well. The Dune films were clearly made with IMAX in mind, even though they were shot digitally. But I would agree with you that premium theater experiences like Dolby vision should be more prevalent in the theater industry.
@ I’m all for artists using whatever tools they find necessary to tell their stories. I think Denis and Greg did a solid job crafting their visuals on Dune pt 1 and an outstanding job on pt 2. And I agree that their use of digital tools with the goal of storytelling inside that aspect ratio was well executed. I salute. That said, I don’t think those tools are powerful enough (yet) to enter the 15/70 IMAX venue, not at those ticket prices at least. I love IMAX as a format, but their recent attempts to vertically integrate their brand is largely responsible for reasons why there are so few 15/70 IMAX theaters today. IMAX has opened a massive number of very good (but not great)digital theaters in the last decade, they charge premium ticket prices and offer studios a venue to make more money per screen. Studio like this idea and who could blame them? However, IMAX has also gotten in bed with some of the major players in digital cinema and have licensed their brand to appear on a number of really good digital cinema cameras, it seems that just about any camera that shoots with with a resolution of at least 4K and at a decently high bit rate qualifies for the license. The problem is that in order for studios to access these “premium” digital IMAX venues and use the words “IMAX” in their promotional materials they have to use IMAX licensed cameras. These cameras are impressive, but almost all of them are no more powerful than the cameras used on the average Netflix series. That’s not something that reaches the heights of a premium theatrical experience. Not in my opinion anyway. I think IMAX has really diluted their brand in doing this. Instead of developing new technologies to make 15/70 productions more accessible as a means of expanding their truly premium format (something they only just started doing this year as opposed to 17 years ago when Nolan was using their cameras on feature productions), they’ve decided to aggressively peruse the midgrade format (4k+ digital cameras crafting images to be screened by their very good but not great digital projectors). I’m hoping that Dolby comes along and eats their lunch soon. Dolby Vision makes for a far better theatrical experience than what digital IMAX projection is currently offering. Dynamic range and its impact on color and contrast is the next frontier of digital cinema in my opinion, not resolution and Dolby has currently outclassed everyone along this metric. I would much rather pay a premium to see a movie like Dune in a Dolby Cinema than in any IMAX format and I bet most people who’ve seen a movie in both formats would agree.
@@FrameVoyager Technically I could get some ticket cancellations if I'm quick, but I can't find any friends to go with me for the showtimes that I can find good seats for...
I also heard that Mufasa: The Lion King (2024) is going to be shown in IMAX 1.43:1, Could you check to see if I am correct on this or is it just speculation so far? 😄
I reported it last time I made this video, but unfortunately I haven't seen many reports about it. Last I could find was from 2019. IMdB, not a great source for accuracy, used to have 1.43:1 on their tech specs sheet for the film and now it's no longer there. I'll keep an eye out though!
(New) Audiences have to know, that the very good 4K Dual Laser digital IMAX ist now a 10 Year old Technology (which is a lot in digital...), and doesn't even come close to real 1570 Recording and 1570 Projecting, invented in the '70s. It's 10 times(!) the vertical and 3-4 times (!) horzontal Resolution of 4K Dual L., and the astheatics of the best analog Print Film on top.1570 needs every support to stay.
That hazy plugin seems like a waste of electricity when old lenses exist. If you want that effect, just adapt a cheap no-name M42 lens instead of nuking your computer trying to make your footage blurry. The effect doesn't look nice over the example film clips throughout.
@@C.I... barely makes a dent in processing performance in Premiere Pro. But I could see a case of using both vintage lenses and this software. Like everything, it's a tool as a video editor that you can explore and find creative uses for. That doesn't mean it's the solution every time
Is the new PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON film, being dubbed as an “event” film, using IMAX cameras? Because if it was, i plan to go to Melbourne from the Philippines and time my vacation just so I can see it in that format
I thought he was doing vista vision and not IMAX cameras? But he could still get a 70mm release just not an IMAX 1.43:1 70MM RELEASE. I'd still go see it though
The only thing I've seen for that one is a 1.90:1 ratio. I've seen some stuff about maybe the DVD opening up to like 1.78:1 or something? But I've never seen that one show up in 1.43:1. There are also a bunch of DMR films but some information on them is really difficult to find so I really add stuff I'm pretty confident on to this list.
@@FrameVoyagerI saw Blade Runner 2049 in an IMAX with dual laser and the film stayed at 1.90:1 throughout. I think some of the confusion comes from a blog post from Roger Deakins in which he stated that the native aspect ratio is 1.55:1. So we could've had a version of the movie that nearly filled up GT screens.
@@wafflesforbrains9502 the film was shot on the Arri Alexa Mini, Alexa Plus & Alexa XT Studio cameras, all of which have an aspect ratio of 1.55:1 when shot in open gate. This is probably what he was referring to in the blog post.
There's a Russian 1.78 open matte version floating around that closely mimics the IMAX version, and I much prefer it to the official heavily cropped 2.35:1 release.
@@TR47 I wouldn't say that the 2.39:1 version is "heavily cropped". They framed the film primarily for 2.39:1, so it shows exactly what the director and cinematographer wanted you to see in the frame. The open matte version simply reveals information that they didn't really frame for.
Yeah, the map wasn't supposed to be very accurate, that would have taken forever to figure out. But I think some of the blue dots didn't render for some reason over Europe lmao.
In my opinion, IMAX is overrated. - expensive to film and view - most theaters are “Li-MAX” - there’s such a thing a screens being too big. The only good seats are at the very back. Not being able to see the entire frame is annoying - rectangular formats (like anamorphic or vista vision) are usually better since humans see wider than taller - framing for IMAX during filming creatively and logistically limits this filmmakers
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I really wish the studios would release the full ratio IMAX physical media for home use. They went through the trouble to edit them and then only showed them in a handful of theaters? I’d pay for that media, as would many home theater enthusiasts.
I have this wish every year when I blow out my candles. Still, only Nolan's releases do this. It's a shame. The aspect ratio changes are always exciting.
Most TV/projectors are 16:9. A 1.43:1 film would result in a very boxy image for home theaters. Diminishing returns.
@@isaacbedford3644mah lad, learn to read and focus on the world enthusiasts. They will be people with proper projectors screening that beauty in their homes. Plus, fuck the box experience, people will pay to see those extra pixels on their favourite films.
People don’t fecking do the math or else they’d realize that 2.39:1 letterbox gives about as much of that oh-so-horrible BLACKNESS as the 1.43:1 does on a 16:9 movies.
And don’y tell me hIpStErs with a home theatre cannot afford to totally dim the lights and close the drapes??
Amen! Why shoot it if it's only ever gonna be seen in that ratio only for a select few for a limited time?
Very blessed to have a 70mm 1.43:1 theatre in my home town. Dune and Dune 2 were incredible in their correct format!
I saw Dune 2 on 15/70 too. You're so right. Absolutely their correct format.
I got to see Oppenheimer, but I had to drive 3 hours to see it haha. Seeing Interstellar in 70mm on Saturday
@@FrameVoyager OPPY is definitely worth the drive. Takes me about 40 minutes to get to my IMAX and it feels like I'm heading on vacation every time.
Just rewatched Interstellar in IMAX. Even though it was 1.9, my mind was absolutely BLOWN that a movie 10 years old had such immersive and realistic scenes that even Disney could not achieve. Again, it's no surprise coming from Christopher Nolan, but every time I see one of his movies like Oppenheimer or Interstellar or TDK (on my Blu Ray), I can say without a doubt that his movies have always been and still are ahead of his time. I think every movie filmed in IMAX should release their IMAX format in home media and I say this after being underwhelmed by Dune Part Two in Blu Ray, having watched it in IMAX.
I got to see it in 1.43:1 in GT laser. Beautiful, inspiring experience.
I was trying to decide whether to commit to an extended trip for the 70mm film, but abandoned that idea when the closest theater capable of projecting said film (5+ hours one way) wasn’t send one for the event. After hearing stories about specificity some 70mm screenings breaking, I’m honestly hesitant to attempt seeing them in the future.
@ Crazy that some films are so good that the projector itself breaks
i watched the re-release at 1.43 and it was truly a magical experience. $25 for that experience is a total steal
The 70mm IMAX theater near where I live closed a few years ago, it wasn't making enough money so IMAX corp decided to shut it down. I was so bummed since I've seen so many 70mm IMAX films there. I can confirm that Star Wars: Rogue One didn't have any aspect ratio changes, it was in 70mm print but the aspect ratio was 2.39:1. Also, Oblivion was shown in 1.90:1 aspect ratio, no 1.43:1, at least not at that 70mm IMAX theater that I saw it at.
I got to see Joker 2 in IMAX 70mm at the AMC Merton in San Fransisco, 75 foot tall by 97 foot wide screen, phenomenal experience and a nice touch that I could hear the projector flickering during quieter scenes. The full screen scenes were the 9th wonder of the world, that IMAX screen makes my 70 inch tv at home look like a pixel.
For the Interstellar re-release I’ll be seeing it in an IMAX Dome theater in a museum in the Bay Area, that’ll be a unique experience of it’s own, can’t wait!
I got to see Oppenheimer and Dune 2 at the 70mm IMAX theater at the Indiana State Museum. I ended up seeing both movies again in fake IMAX at my local theater. The visual fidelity and the aspect ratios were so different, it was a completely different experience. If you have access to a theater and a movie that takes advantage of it, it is worth the price of admission.
It's a fascinating experience for sure. I still love IMAX even when they don't have the film version or 1.43:1 for the sound and the larger screen.
I watch the IMAX 70mm in Toronto (Vaughn) many times. It was magical. It felt like being in an art gallery but for motion pictures.
I've seen Oppenheimer, Dune 2 and Interstellar in IMAX 1570. I'm so happy that Melbourne is one of many cities in the world to have the IMAX 1570 projector, the only 1570 projector in Australia.
The Melbourne IMAX people seem super cool too. I love their youtube content
Yeah, I go to IMAX Melb regularly, best cinema in the world! Still the best experience ever was Interstellar, seen it there twice now, hoping to again in the future!
@@RustedCognition It's one of my favourite cinemas ever. There's going to be a film festival next month where they are showing many IMAX fan favourite films. Very excited to go see a couple of films there.
@@JoshyMcSquashy_Reviews Yeah, I'm so excited, I've already booked in Inception!
@@RustedCognition SAME! Can't wait to see Inception!!
I like how intensify the IMAX countdown pops out at 0:41 😂
@@bewatermyfriend3686 you're welcome 😉
Watching Dunkirk and Dune Part Two in an IMAX screen was an amazing experience. Thanks for the video.
No problem! Glad you enjoyed it
Also can confirm, Oblivion was 1.9:1 at 15/70 theatre at the time at Scotiabank theatre, Toronto.
@@avdpost appreciate it! That's what I figured but that film in particular is super hard to find info on. Some people swear it was 1.43:1 😅
THE FULL LIST:
NOPE
The Dark Knight (2008)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009)
Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol (2011)
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (2013)
Interstellar (2014)
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) Appears to have been released in some sense in 1.43:1
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Dunkirk (2017)
First Man (2018)
The Lion King (2019)
Tenet (2020)
Dune (2021)
No Time to Die (2021)
Eternals (2021) 1.43:1 aspect ratio (IMAX GT Laser venues only)
Lightyear (2022)
Oppenheimer (2023)
Dune: Part Two (2024)
The ant bully
Happy Feet
Kung Fu Panda (2008)
Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa
Joker: Folie a Deux
Megalopolis
Sinner (2025)
Can confirm that The Force Awakens was in 1.43:1 during at least one scene (the first scene of the Falcon flying on Jakku). I went to the IMAX in Toronto to see it.
Star Trek Into Darkness didnt go full IMAX?
I saw Joker 2 in IMAX 70mm. I like how you said it'll probably never be shown that way again. You're definitely right.
I can this: the 70mm projection was absolutely the best part of the movie 🤣
Great video!!!
Best,
-FSD
I almost went to NYC to see it! But yeah haha, unless it turns into some sort of cult classic over the years it would be surprising to see it ever come back.
@@FrameVoyager You saved yourself a trip, sir!
Fun little memory that seems relevant to the conversation. I watched Dune Part Two at a screening on the WB lot before seeing it in IMAX at Universal Citywalk. I am convinced I caught at least one shot that was cropped for IMAX. It was a close up of Paul. In the 2.39:1 version, the close up I am thinking of had a lot of negative space on either side of his face. In the IMAX version, Paul's face filled up the frame. While Dune Part Two is one of my two favorite films of 2024, I am much more partial to IMAX film than IMAX Digital. Also, Catching Fire was an AMAZING IMAX experience.
Nice! Sounds like quite the experience. I saw Oppenheimer in 15/70 IMAX but the power went out 3 times because of a thunderstorm. Fascinating experience
What was your second favorite film of the year?
I think the “prologue” in rise of skywalker you mentioned was actually the Tenet prologue, which played before imax screenings of the film
That would make sense. It's fascinating how spotty some of the reporting is around IMAX.
YOU BEAT ME TO IT. I was planning on making a video on this because I have many "normie" friends who are unclear on what makes Nolan IMAX films unique. But you did a great job in considering all aspects of this IMAX mystery.
@@NerdyRambling haha appreciate it! This is actually an update to one I made before too. But if you're interested in digging more into some IMAX related stuff I also made on every film that was shot with an IMAX camera 😉
If you google a photo comparing the different 1.43 imax screens, you will notice that their actual aspect ratios are quite inconsistent, some being as square as 1.30:1, some more rectangular, and the previous largest imax in Sydney having an aspect ratio of 1.21:1. So I am curious how they would handle the 1.43 release while also considering that the frame size of 15-perf 70mm is 1.33:1
It's a great question! Honestly, it would be great to take a trip to Melbourne sometime and interview them about some of it.
Christopher Nolan’s upcoming movie is rumored to be shot entirely on IMAX 70mm, I don’t know how he will pull that off, but that rumor intrigued me
Source?
@ I’m not sure if it’s true, but this is what I can find th-cam.com/video/cqci-DXcmOs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=F262tcgNFWQ1W9cQ
Well most imax documentaries were fully shot with 70 mm....
But yeah, it would be a daunting achievment if nolan manages to do the same with an actual feature film.
Proud to say I’ve seen every Nolan film since Inception in 70mm IMAX.
Hunger Games The Catching Fire is one of the best movies! It makes so much sense when they change the aspect ratio in the movie
@@imjakedeason probably one of the best examples of using it in a way that enhances the story. The other one was first man
I'm lucky to have the "world's tallest" 1.43:1 IMAX theatre just a 30 minute drive from my house. I've never been, and I wish I went for the TENET rerelease earlier this year because that would've been insane. I'm waiting for the next Christopher Nolan film to go to the actual IMAX theatre though.
You're on fire man!!! 🔥
I'd love to hear you talk about "the unusual production of Megalopolis"
I live close to IMAX Melbourne, the largest IMAX theatre with a 15/70 projector in the world (arguably the best cinema in the world, in my opinion), screen is 32m x 23m (105ft x 75ft). I have been lucky enough to see a large quantity of films in this format. They regularly do special events, re-screenings and have an extensive back log of film stock.
I have seen:
The Dark Knight in 1570
The Dark Knight Rises 1570
Interstellar 1570, twice
Dune 4K digital
Oppenheimer 1570
Dune Part Two 1570 and 4K laser (had to see twice, was so good)
Joker: Folie A Deux 1570 (looked good, was not a great movie)
Some honorable mentions that I have seen in this theatre, but not in the 1.43.1 are listed below, these are still some of my favorite cinema experiences.
Batman Begins
Blade Runner
Blade Runner 2049
Spiderman Across the Spiderverse
Alien: Romulus
Godzilla Minus One
Napoleon (looked good, was not a great film)
The Creator
Pacific Rim in IMAX 3D
Booked to see:
Inception
And hopefully more in the future as they are constantly doing festivals and rescreening some of the best movies ever made!
Chris "IMAX" Nolan ♥️
I'll never forgive you for putting the Whopper jingle back in my head.
haha picked the most annoying one I could find lol
i feel like the taller aspect ratio is too cramped and claustrophobic in this. Maybe because the subjects are a little too big or that when in IMAX it doesnt feel so square. idk
In this video specifically or in IMAX theaters in general?
So excited to be seeing the Interstellar re-release in IMAX 70mm this weekend.
Same! Where are you going to see it?
@@FrameVoyagerToronto Canada. One of only two places playing the 70mm version in Canada
Now we just need a full imax movie, not just scenes
Christopher Nolan is working on that I believe 😅
Thank you for sharing.
No problem!
I can confirm that Star Trek into darkness had scene(s) shown in 1.43:1 at universal city walk when it came out. I saw it with own two eyes.
Interesting. It's hard to confirm something is 1.43:1 sometimes because it's so close to some other ratios. But I'll take a look at that one again!
i saw oppenheimer at the hollywood chinese theather at 70mm imax
@@nicholaswilks580 just saw it last night in Irving
I saw Rogue one in 70mm imax at the IMAX theater at the Minnesota zoo, which unfortunately closed in 2019 and Glass was the last movie screened there. It was actually a full sized IMAX screen unlike the ones at AMC theaters.
The last two movies I saw there were Blade runner 2049 and Dunkirk. I feel like the downfall of that theater was that it was operated under the oversight of the City of Apple Valley which is the city that it and The Zoo were/are located, and I feel that they were ignorant about how best to manage the theater.
They seemed to operate it as you would imagine any regular multiplex movie theater is managed where every weekend they would screen that week's new release that had the most buzz, which with the higher ticket price than say your average movie ticket price probably isn't necessarily the ideal use of and one could see how if a movie isn't even presented in an IMAX format that it probably wouldn't have the draw to fill the seats consistently every weekend.
I personally think that they probably would have been better off being much more selective about what movies they would pay for the opening weekend screening rights for, especially when I have to imagine screening older films is much more affordable presently as I know it once was which was why the $1 theater was once so commonplace, as opposed to the screening rights cost for new releases.
So with the fact that the window is which one is able to get the chance to ever see a movie like Nolan films, the MCU movies, blade runner 2049, Dune, Nope, etc. in a full sized IMAX theater is so fleeting as it is, they probably could have done special screenings like half the year on weeks/weekends that there weren't new releases that made sense to pay the new release screening costs.
Must have been awesome to see Rogue One in 70mm! But yeah I agree with you about showing older films. I've heard they have been discussing upgrading some of these 70mm projectors so they can use them more. But the exclusivity of it also is super helpful in a sense to I'd imagine.
@@FrameVoyagerexactly.
The 4 story 90 foot wide screen is quite a bit bigger than most of the IMAX screens at AMC theaters. We do still have one true IMAX theater here in Minnesota it's at the science museum, but I don't think that they screen scripted films.
Another honorable mention to add for a film shot with an IMAX camera but never shown in IMAX 1:43:1 is The Prestige. Particularly the scene where one of the twins played by Christian Bale cuts off the other twin brothers finger in the close up shot. This was confirmed by David Keighly on the Raiders of The Lost Podcast when he did an interview with them.
Ah, I forgot about that one. I meant to add that. Thanks for mentioning it!
@@FrameVoyager No problem
Drive four hours from Milwaukee to the Indiana State Museum in Indianapolis, the nearest capable theater, to see Interstellar in true 70mm IMAX (reel 38 they said!). Absolutely don’t regret it.
the map at 1:36 feels very off!
The blue dots aren't meant to be super accurate 😅
Seeing Interstellar in IMAX 70MM this Friday 🙈
Seeing it on Saturday! Can't wait
I'm a HUGE movie enthusiast lover especially horror movies, aspiring business owner and actress/thespian. I've already watched 58 movie releases in the movie theater this year. My absolute favorite movie screen is IMAX especially IMAX 3D! This was an insightful video! ❤❤❤❤🎬🎥🎟️🎞️🍿🥤
I am very upset that Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, Hunger games Catching Fire, Mission impossible Ghost Protocol, and No Time to Die all have their IMAX footage cropped to widescreen on the 4K Bluray home release, even though it could very well expand to the full 1.78:1 TV aspect ratio. I call this the "list of shame" since the Nolan 4K Blurays do such a great job of showing the IMAX footage at home. The force awakens and Dune would also be a part of that list, although I don't care as much about the films themselves so it doesn't really upset me all that much.
Yeah, it would be nice to see them with the actual format releases
A Black Pro Mist filter will go a long way to achieve those highlight blooms in-camera without digital post processing. FYI
Not if you're pairing it with VFX which is the example I was using. I'm not saying you shouldn't use filters, I use them all the time. But it's useful to have tools like these for various editing situations and effects related work.
I hope The Brutalist gets an Imax release
That would be cool! But I don't think they shot it in 70mm IMAX, just 70mm which is also great if you can find a theater that shows it that way
@@FrameVoyager They filmed it in VistaVision, but will have an IMAX release.
I’m very curious to know what are the different resolutions for 1.43;1
Would love to play with this in da Vinci resolved timelines
I don't understand the talk about how Dune was shot for imax and how that is the correct way to see it. As far as i can see it was shot on an alexa LF, which shoots in 2.39:1. So it would be a cropped release for imax right? Am i missing something?
They shot it with an Alexa 65, but on both the 65 and the Alexa LF in an open gate, you can get a 1.44:1 ratio for the ALEXA LF and a 1.78:1 for the 65 but you can crop in the sides or shoot like that in production and get 1.44:1 as well. A lot of film will shoot open gate and then crop in later. Here is an example of a film that was not supposed to show in IMAX but did later anyways --> th-cam.com/video/KOkHxrEcVk8/w-d-xo.html. You can see in this they have guidelines they will use for specific ratios, but they are still filming stuff outside of it too.
Pretty much all of the ARRI cameras have the ability to do 1.43:1 ratio if they want to. But a lot of movies are "cropped" in after production. The difference with the DUNE films is they were shot specifically for the IMAX 1.43:1 aspect not cropped from a film not made with IMAX in mind after the fact to fit into that format. Hope that makes sense!
Saw 1917 on a IMAX screen. It filled the whole screen.
I think that might have been one of the DMR showings
Yes. 1917 was shot digitally but I don’t know what format. Rushden Lakes IMAX for your information.
@@lewisjames4268 Thanks! And yeah they use an ARRI Alexa LF for that film so definitely enough there if they shot it Open gate to get to 1.43:1. From what I've seen it was formatted for 1.90:1 which is it's secondary and most common IMAX format
I don’t see the link to the interstellar thing like you said
Whoops, here it is --> www.imax.com/news/interstellar-IMAX-Exclusive-IMAX-70mm-film
An honorable mention is that the mystery December 2026 Denis Villeneuve film could be released in IMAX 1.43:1
I got to see the matrix reloaded after a conference in the london imax cinema
I bet that was something!
The only version of IMAX that matters is 15 perf 70mm IMAX. And even then, the only films worth seeing on that format are films shot on IMAX film cameras (IMAX licensing their name on the side of various Alexa and other digital cameras means absolutely nothing). Which pretty much limits the experience to Nolan movies. Digital cinematography or even 35mm blowup doesn’t cut it on those screens.
The next in line for premium formats is Dolby Vision at an AMC Dolby Cinema. Hands down the greatest digital theatrical experience possible. Blows all digital IMAX theaters out of the water.
I would say that the production "Made for IMAX" is okay as well. The Dune films were clearly made with IMAX in mind, even though they were shot digitally. But I would agree with you that premium theater experiences like Dolby vision should be more prevalent in the theater industry.
@ I’m all for artists using whatever tools they find necessary to tell their stories. I think Denis and Greg did a solid job crafting their visuals on Dune pt 1 and an outstanding job on pt 2. And I agree that their use of digital tools with the goal of storytelling inside that aspect ratio was well executed. I salute.
That said, I don’t think those tools are powerful enough (yet) to enter the 15/70 IMAX venue, not at those ticket prices at least. I love IMAX as a format, but their recent attempts to vertically integrate their brand is largely responsible for reasons why there are so few 15/70 IMAX theaters today. IMAX has opened a massive number of very good (but not great)digital theaters in the last decade, they charge premium ticket prices and offer studios a venue to make more money per screen. Studio like this idea and who could blame them? However, IMAX has also gotten in bed with some of the major players in digital cinema and have licensed their brand to appear on a number of really good digital cinema cameras, it seems that just about any camera that shoots with with a resolution of at least 4K and at a decently high bit rate qualifies for the license. The problem is that in order for studios to access these “premium” digital IMAX venues and use the words “IMAX” in their promotional materials they have to use IMAX licensed cameras. These cameras are impressive, but almost all of them are no more powerful than the cameras used on the average Netflix series. That’s not something that reaches the heights of a premium theatrical experience. Not in my opinion anyway. I think IMAX has really diluted their brand in doing this. Instead of developing new technologies to make 15/70 productions more accessible as a means of expanding their truly premium format (something they only just started doing this year as opposed to 17 years ago when Nolan was using their cameras on feature productions), they’ve decided to aggressively peruse the midgrade format (4k+ digital cameras crafting images to be screened by their very good but not great digital projectors).
I’m hoping that Dolby comes along and eats their lunch soon. Dolby Vision makes for a far better theatrical experience than what digital IMAX projection is currently offering. Dynamic range and its impact on color and contrast is the next frontier of digital cinema in my opinion, not resolution and Dolby has currently outclassed everyone along this metric. I would much rather pay a premium to see a movie like Dune in a Dolby Cinema than in any IMAX format and I bet most people who’ve seen a movie in both formats would agree.
Joker 2 is technically a cropped IMAX film
Anyone see a difference between dual laser vs 15/70? Seattle did a conversion but I can't remember a big difference.
Did the harry potter part 2 have a 70 mm release also?
@@MrDremmetbrown it could have had a 70mm release but still not be 1.43:1 like some other films
Super lucky to have seen Oppenheimer in 70 mill and it’s gonna be sick to witness interstellar in 70 mill too
Same! Going to see interstellar on Saturday in 70mm
I'm also very upset that the Interstellar 70mm tickets near me sold out on the first day...
@@Pocketkid2 I know, I barely got some tickets. They released them earlier then they said they would too
@@FrameVoyager Technically I could get some ticket cancellations if I'm quick, but I can't find any friends to go with me for the showtimes that I can find good seats for...
@@Pocketkid2 Yeah, I had to settle for some further up and to the side than I'd generally prefer. Hope they add some more showings
Please make a video on the production of The Tree of Life
I want to! Just have to find the right angle for it
@ really looking forward to it! Malik is such an intriguing filmmaker
I also heard that Mufasa: The Lion King (2024) is going to be shown in IMAX 1.43:1, Could you check to see if I am correct on this or is it just speculation so far? 😄
I reported it last time I made this video, but unfortunately I haven't seen many reports about it. Last I could find was from 2019. IMdB, not a great source for accuracy, used to have 1.43:1 on their tech specs sheet for the film and now it's no longer there.
I'll keep an eye out though!
(New) Audiences have to know, that the very good 4K Dual Laser digital IMAX ist now a 10 Year old Technology (which is a lot in digital...), and doesn't even come close to real 1570 Recording and 1570 Projecting, invented in the '70s. It's 10 times(!) the vertical and 3-4 times (!) horzontal Resolution of 4K Dual L., and the astheatics of the best analog Print Film on top.1570 needs every support to stay.
That hazy plugin seems like a waste of electricity when old lenses exist.
If you want that effect, just adapt a cheap no-name M42 lens instead of nuking your computer trying to make your footage blurry.
The effect doesn't look nice over the example film clips throughout.
@@C.I... barely makes a dent in processing performance in Premiere Pro. But I could see a case of using both vintage lenses and this software. Like everything, it's a tool as a video editor that you can explore and find creative uses for. That doesn't mean it's the solution every time
Is the new PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON film, being dubbed as an “event” film, using IMAX cameras? Because if it was, i plan to go to Melbourne from the Philippines and time my vacation just so I can see it in that format
I thought he was doing vista vision and not IMAX cameras? But he could still get a 70mm release just not an IMAX 1.43:1 70MM RELEASE. I'd still go see it though
Why didn’t they have these films back in the day when all you had was 4:3 ratio tvs
I may be in a minority here, but I despise this proprietary aspect ratio nonsense that the Imax Corporation has managed to convince people to embrace.
@@Willy_Elres HERETIC!! SHUN THE UNBELIEVER 😩😩😩
@FrameVoyager Ha ha, that's me! And I didn't even get started on what I think of Variable AR..! Still, I enjoyed your video.
Blade runner 2049?
The only thing I've seen for that one is a 1.90:1 ratio. I've seen some stuff about maybe the DVD opening up to like 1.78:1 or something? But I've never seen that one show up in 1.43:1. There are also a bunch of DMR films but some information on them is really difficult to find so I really add stuff I'm pretty confident on to this list.
@@FrameVoyagerI saw Blade Runner 2049 in an IMAX with dual laser and the film stayed at 1.90:1 throughout. I think some of the confusion comes from a blog post from Roger Deakins in which he stated that the native aspect ratio is 1.55:1. So we could've had a version of the movie that nearly filled up GT screens.
@@wafflesforbrains9502 the film was shot on the Arri Alexa Mini, Alexa Plus & Alexa XT Studio cameras, all of which have an aspect ratio of 1.55:1 when shot in open gate. This is probably what he was referring to in the blog post.
There's a Russian 1.78 open matte version floating around that closely mimics the IMAX version, and I much prefer it to the official heavily cropped 2.35:1 release.
@@TR47 I wouldn't say that the 2.39:1 version is "heavily cropped". They framed the film primarily for 2.39:1, so it shows exactly what the director and cinematographer wanted you to see in the frame. The open matte version simply reveals information that they didn't really frame for.
firstly, you forgot to add ukraine. Because ukraine has normal 35mm IMAX and IMAX with laser///
Yeah, the map wasn't supposed to be very accurate, that would have taken forever to figure out. But I think some of the blue dots didn't render for some reason over Europe lmao.
@@FrameVoyager oh okay, anyways good channel, watching it for long time, keep it up
I saw a bunch of DMR’s at the former Sydney imax. Lemme tell ya that shit sucks. A very dim and blurry image. E.g Spider-Man 3, Watchmen, Prometheus
haha that's what I have heard!
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In my opinion, IMAX is overrated.
- expensive to film and view
- most theaters are “Li-MAX”
- there’s such a thing a screens being too big. The only good seats are at the very back. Not being able to see the entire frame is annoying
- rectangular formats (like anamorphic or vista vision) are usually better since humans see wider than taller
- framing for IMAX during filming creatively and logistically limits this filmmakers