Battlesphere was in development when the jag was still around, but got canceled and was eventually completed by the original team, who released it when Hasbro announced the jag as an open console. Really great video, always enjoy these comparisons.
The reason Doom is so dark on the Jaguar is actually because of problems converting color palletes from PC colorspace to Jaguar. Also worth noting the 32X versions is a direct port of the Jaguar version even though it was released first.
@@atarijaguarsgarage8873 yes it does but original textures were in RGB color space and in the conversion to CRY, they ended up darker. The use of CRY itself is decent.
The Jaguar was priced right, but lacked system-selling games. The 32x also lacked games, but it had an extremely short lifespan due to bad Sega's policies. If both consoles had more time in the market, we would've seen some interesting games pushing the hardware to its limit.
I think only ONE game pushed the hardware and that was Virtual Fighter for the 32X. I remember reading a artical saying the 32X could not handle Virtual Fighter... What a bunch of BS... The 32x versions i think is better than the Saturn version...It is smooth as butter..
I loooooooooooove T-MEK. The fact that the 32X version is the only console version is a reason to own a 32X for me. It’s more of a Twisted Metal game than a Battlezone game, though - Hoverstrike is Battlezone 3000 and it is a totally different playstyle. I like them both a lot.
Shadow Squadron is a lot more similar to Battlesphere than Star Wars is. Both are awesome games and some of the best games on their respective systems. Star Wars Arcade is a rail shooter, which the Jag had none of.
Good video! Nice comparison of the Sega 32x and the Atari Jaguar! I do have both Primal Rage CD and World Tour Racing CD and Battlesphere Gold. I did not know, that I had these rare games! Nice! Yes! I would like to see a part 2 of this series!
32x was a very capable system. Sadly, we're only NOW seeing what it can do. DOOM Resurrection, OpenLaura, and a few other projects are showing that we could have had some immersive games (especially DOOM done right) very early on. Jaguar was probably just as capable, I don't doubt OpenLaura can also run on it since it runs on the GBA. Game developers were probably in short supply at that time. We had plenty of 16 bit games, but even PC wasn't really into "heavy" 3D games back then (system shock and DOOM were the most notable, otherwise there were just a handful of actual fun 3D games on DOS). SEGA Rally was as good as it got, and that was an arcade game, otherwise I think most people looking back on these old 3D capable systems were expecting American McGee's Alice type 3D (or at least N64 type 3D), that type of 3D simply wasn't a thing yet..
For Motocross, you have to push up and down when you go up and down the hills. I think the game isn't great, but much better than the Jag game if you get used to it.
Who agrees that for the next piece of atari hardware released in the future atari should develop and release some new atari games exclusively for this new theoretical atari hardware? unlike the current vcs that has pretty much no exclusives
Now this is a great showdown!! I think the 32x if programmed correctly meaning using both 32 bit processors can compete with the Jag and 3DO... 32x like the Jag and 3DO were a year late to the market..
Probably better if they had ditched the extra SH2 and release the 32x with a single CPU at a lower price tag, IMHO. Then give it more proper support and delay a year the release of the Saturn, until it could get a single SH3 CPU with a better GPU, that would've been a PSX killer.
@@sovo1212 I disagree, the 2 SH2 design was to get developers familiar to the Saturn, in fact it was a early Saturn Design. What Sega should have done is just release the SVP chip as a standalone cartage and it would require no extra power supply or cables. It would use the SVP like the knuckles game. Games would be released that can lock on to the SVP cart and use its DSP for simple 3d games and other effects. That could have came out a year earlier and been a stop gap for the Saturn. The SVP chip would not have addressed the color limitations of the Sega Genesis, but for simple 3d like VR and VF, it does not matter. They could have even released a really good version of Wolf 3d and maybe a Doom version like the SNES. It would have only cost about $50 bucks for the stand alone cart or they could have just added the lock on to the Virtual Racing cart. Anyways it is always fun talking this and how things should have been... Great post!!!
I own the 32X and Atari Jaguar with several games for both systems (some of which are direct counterparts to each other like Motocross Championship on 32X (which I liked) and Supercross 3D on Jaguar (which I freaking hated. As a Motorcross fan, 32X murders the Jaguar in the Motorcross department. LOL). This should be a cool video!
I say tempest2000 #1, avp #2, doom #3, wolf3d#4 and rayman/nba jam/fightforlife/checkered flag/😆 mk clones #5 but 32x is virtua fighter #1, virtua racing #2, doom #3, star wars #4 and mk2/nbajam/knuckles/tempo/kolibri #5...Iron soldier and 32x mech game tied
The 33x was way more capable than any game on the system. Doom only uses one 32bit processor and there is a full screen version that is just as good or better than the jaguar. The jaguar was also more capable than any game on the system.. we never got to see what those systems could really do. 3do, 32x, and jaguar were never really pushed..
the new Doom Resurrection on 32x beats the jag version in all areas now and has split screen and system link , however i do understand its not a fair comparison and im sure someone could make a better Jag version than the original if they wanted to. Also if you compare Steller Assault with Battlesphere its much fairer as SA is much more of a similar game and not arcade port. its pretty much split down the middle with these 2 consoles and i love them both , i still regret selling off my jag :( (still got the 32x lol)
As one of the few people who both owned AND loved my 32X-CD "Tower of Power," I have to give it to the Jaguar for hardware. It was simply the most powerful console at the time and, had it been released as a Jaguar CD, would've given the PlayStation and even the Saturn a hard time in the console wars. Nevertheless, too many games were rushed or done by novices, and the hardware contained bugs and was difficult to develop for. If only Atari had released an upgraded console version of the Lynx in 1990, they'd have had a 16-bit competitor with some serious 3D graphics capabilities, at least letting them compete on the low end. And they'd be starting with a library of 74 games to a system that could do decent arcade ports.
The Jaguar just had many games that could square up to the 32x line-up of games but nobody has mentioned, such as: -I-War vs. T-Mek -Defender 2000 vs. Kolibri -Star Wars Arcade vs. Skyhammer -Battlemorph vs. Shadow Squadron -Metal Head vs. Iron Soldier -Chaotix vs. Rayman -Blackthorne vs. Flashback -DarXide vs. Zero 5
great idea...doom is hard...1 is full screen no music, 1 is 75% screen but music, both have great homebrew versions with full screen and sound , both have 3d racers and 3d fighters both have wolf 3d, both great 2d games too like nba jam...I go 32x by a bit...51% to 49%
I see your point, but don't forget AVP, Iron Soldier, Tempest 200.. Those 3 games and Doom are reason enough to get the Jag...32x has VF, Starwars, VR, Tempo, and MK2... Yes good fight!!!!
@@johnjay6370 I say tempest2000 #1, avp #2, doom #3, wolf3d#4 and rayman/nba jam/fightforlife/checkered flag/😆 mk clones #5 but 32x is virtua fighter #1, virtua racing #2, doom #3, star wars #4 and mk2/nbajam/knuckles/tempo/kolibri #5...Iron soldier and 32x mech game tied 😆
Your preference aside, I was suprised how much better the Jag version of Primal Rage actually is: higher color depht (look at the diphtering in the 32x version!), nicer details, animations are smoother and it runs way better. So a clear win for the Jag in my book. The CD argument does not count, as Battlesphere is even rarer than the CD Addon(except you buy a repro or play it on GD). But PR can also be played on GD.;-) Overall, I still think the 32X has the better library, but the Jaguar has some really noteworthy highlights, showing off the capabilities of the hardware. :-D
I just don't get it man. Sega virtual racing looked and played perfect every other game you had shown looked and played like dog food. How is one game so on the ball and nothing else could even hold it's frame rate. Primal rage for the SNES was great, but neither of these systems could pull it off? You used the words "kind'a fun" a lot. Thanks for the surprisingly fun video.
@@rustymixer2886 It has something to do with scrolling... The 32x is ineffectual at it I believe... Sega Lord X compared Genesis/Sega CD/32X games on his channel... And showed that the Genesis versions of games were 60fps, while the 32x versions unfortunately were 30fps... 2D games may have more assets and look better while standing still on the 32X, but while scrolling, the Genesis is superior in many ways... Definite design flaw of the 32X... I still think the add-on gets a bum wrap though... Def some quality games...
This is the sort of weird matchup that's going to drive people to violence, because the systems are so obscure that the fans are SUPER defensive. Over on AtariAge, which I'm guessing you may know given the Wave One reviews, there are two or three threads on this topic that are 25-30 pages. Fascinating.
Sega was supposed to make virtua racing for jaguar via lawsuit but atari went under and didn't come out thats why before atari made tmek for 32x as they thought they would get a gem but didn't
@@GregsGameRoom and how did that negate me? It was an Atari game on Sega console and Sega was going to make one for Atari console...are we now going to talk about Atari hasbro or Atari WB or Atari Commodore or Atari infogrames etc? Should I note 32x was Sega of America 💡not parent SOJ ? I mean its semantics, idk what happened 100% with either Atari Corp or Atari games and who bought them, nor care. I thought in 1980 Atari as one brand was sold to WB idk if Atari Corp bought by commodore and wb kept Atari games its confusing as hell...Its Atari France now, so whichever it was or combined a guy bought Atari name and made VCS now.
@@rustymixer2886 In 1984, Warner Bros split Atari into two divisions: consumer and arcade. The consumer division was sold to Jack Tramiel & family, this became Atari Corp. WB renamed the arcade division Atari Games (Namco also owned a stake, and they have a long history with Atari). In the late 1980s, the company formed a consumer software studio, Tengen, which made unlicensed games for NES (cough, Tetris War) and Genesis. In 1994, the company was renamed Time Warner Interactive (yuck) and continued to make games for Genesis, 32x and Saturn. Eventually, they were bought out by Williams-Midway until that company died (rip). Atari Corp continued until 1996, when the Tramiel Family finally dumped everything onto a hard disc manufacturer, who later sold the Atari rights to Hasbro, who later sold it to Infograph’s, who later sold it to some cheap casino gamblers who own the name today.
@@SecondOpinionGames1 absolutely, but I meant technical downsides. Like you already mentioned, there's no hardware upgrade in the Jag CD. It's just built to give you access to that storage space. And it cost precious cycles to run the damned thing, you lose out on saving, even the blitter gets slowed down by the thing. it's a nightmare.
Sure. But TMEK is not really good without the Arcade hardware and the network play. The engine uses scaled sprites instead of polygons. I think even the Lynx would be capable to do a fairly good version of it (Battlewheels is very similar!)
I feel both systems were robbed of good games I think they could have done beautiful things with both machines and really push the hardware but nobody really came close and they died before they got the chance
I know what your saying, but I prefer the JAG version because of Full Screen and all the sprite Sides. Meaning you will see all sides of the monsters not just them facing you. The Jag and 32X version had design timeline limitations, it is just how development goes... Both systems are very close in total power.
I don't like the music and the Jaguar Doom is way better were it counts: graphics, performance and gameplay. ;-) The Doom music on the 32x sounds awful, it's one of the worst versions of the OST. So I prefer silence! Another thing is that modern horror games like Dead Space only play music in specific moments, while mostly using ambient sounds and noises to create an unsettling atmosphere. That is why Doom on the Jaguar has some special and unique appeal to me, sometimes less is more and AvP did that too!
Lmao ok dude. 32x is far better. VF VR MK2 alone make it better than Jaguar. Not to mention tempo, knuckles chaotix, and its a chaeper system to own and buy for.
Music in NBA Jam Jaguar is kinda weird and creepy. It’s not great in the 32X but it makes for a more normal NBA Jam experience. Both are great, though.
BC Racers should have been good. The Sega CD game was maybe a little better than the 32X remake even though it looked a lot worse. I don’t think Core’s heart was in it.
Battlesphere was in development when the jag was still around, but got canceled and was eventually completed by the original team, who released it when Hasbro announced the jag as an open console.
Really great video, always enjoy these comparisons.
I wish I hadn't sold my copy :(
Nice to know 😃
The reason Doom is so dark on the Jaguar is actually because of problems converting color palletes from PC colorspace to Jaguar. Also worth noting the 32X versions is a direct port of the Jaguar version even though it was released first.
Really? I read it uses the CRY color space very well to create smooth shadings.
@@atarijaguarsgarage8873 yes it does but original textures were in RGB color space and in the conversion to CRY, they ended up darker. The use of CRY itself is decent.
Yes I want a part two.
By the way T-Mek was developped by Atari Games, not Atari Corp
Down the road 😃
Yes do a part 2 fight for life vs vf 😆 mk2 vs ultra vortex, tempo vs rayman, homebrew 32x wolf3d vs jag version, etc
The Jaguar was priced right, but lacked system-selling games. The 32x also lacked games, but it had an extremely short lifespan due to bad Sega's policies. If both consoles had more time in the market, we would've seen some interesting games pushing the hardware to its limit.
I think only ONE game pushed the hardware and that was Virtual Fighter for the 32X. I remember reading a artical saying the 32X could not handle Virtual Fighter... What a bunch of BS... The 32x versions i think is better than the Saturn version...It is smooth as butter..
I loooooooooooove T-MEK. The fact that the 32X version is the only console version is a reason to own a 32X for me. It’s more of a Twisted Metal game than a Battlezone game, though - Hoverstrike is Battlezone 3000 and it is a totally different playstyle. I like them both a lot.
I appreciate the time, expense and effort you took with this. Thanks!
This weeks is still rough to get done. I have no time but I’m not going to let you down.
Shadow Squadron is a lot more similar to Battlesphere than Star Wars is. Both are awesome games and some of the best games on their respective systems. Star Wars Arcade is a rail shooter, which the Jag had none of.
Just what the doctor ordered a 32X vs. Jaguar throwdown!
Good video! Nice comparison of the Sega 32x and the Atari Jaguar! I do have both Primal Rage CD and World Tour Racing CD and Battlesphere Gold. I did not know, that I had these rare games! Nice! Yes! I would like to see a part 2 of this series!
Maybe down the road 😃
Atari didnt market the Jaguar well enough and struggled with game support from bigger companies
32x was a very capable system. Sadly, we're only NOW seeing what it can do. DOOM Resurrection, OpenLaura, and a few other projects are showing that we could have had some immersive games (especially DOOM done right) very early on. Jaguar was probably just as capable, I don't doubt OpenLaura can also run on it since it runs on the GBA. Game developers were probably in short supply at that time. We had plenty of 16 bit games, but even PC wasn't really into "heavy" 3D games back then (system shock and DOOM were the most notable, otherwise there were just a handful of actual fun 3D games on DOS). SEGA Rally was as good as it got, and that was an arcade game, otherwise I think most people looking back on these old 3D capable systems were expecting American McGee's Alice type 3D (or at least N64 type 3D), that type of 3D simply wasn't a thing yet..
Sadly Atari Games and Atari were completely different companies. Piss poor management.
For Motocross, you have to push up and down when you go up and down the hills. I think the game isn't great, but much better than the Jag game if you get used to it.
Ok your right 😃🙏
In motocross 32x you should be holding the down direction when hitting hills…you’ll keep your speed up and jump high
Life is to short to go back to play motocross 32x
Who agrees that for the next piece of atari hardware released in the future atari should develop and release some new atari games exclusively for this new theoretical atari hardware? unlike the current vcs that has pretty much no exclusives
I don’t think it will happen
NBA Jam clearly has the scaling sprites on the 32X, thought I mention it since you appeared to have missed it.
I really like these comparison videos with the Jag. Have you done comparisons for the Lynx as that was so under appreciated.
Sweet idea. But I’m sending my complete collection to another TH-camr for a big video. So it would have to wait.
Now this is a great showdown!! I think the 32x if programmed correctly meaning using both 32 bit processors can compete with the Jag and 3DO... 32x like the Jag and 3DO were a year late to the market..
The 32x could have been great. It’s the biggest waste of potential of any console.
@@SecondOpinionGames1 Do a part 2 fight for life vs vf, mk2 vs ultra vortex, tempo vs rayman, homebrew 32x wolf3d vs jag version, etc
@@SecondOpinionGames1 yup
Probably better if they had ditched the extra SH2 and release the 32x with a single CPU at a lower price tag, IMHO. Then give it more proper support and delay a year the release of the Saturn, until it could get a single SH3 CPU with a better GPU, that would've been a PSX killer.
@@sovo1212 I disagree, the 2 SH2 design was to get developers familiar to the Saturn, in fact it was a early Saturn Design. What Sega should have done is just release the SVP chip as a standalone cartage and it would require no extra power supply or cables. It would use the SVP like the knuckles game. Games would be released that can lock on to the SVP cart and use its DSP for simple 3d games and other effects. That could have came out a year earlier and been a stop gap for the Saturn. The SVP chip would not have addressed the color limitations of the Sega Genesis, but for simple 3d like VR and VF, it does not matter. They could have even released a really good version of Wolf 3d and maybe a Doom version like the SNES. It would have only cost about $50 bucks for the stand alone cart or they could have just added the lock on to the Virtual Racing cart. Anyways it is always fun talking this and how things should have been... Great post!!!
I own the 32X and Atari Jaguar with several games for both systems (some of which are direct counterparts to each other like Motocross Championship on 32X (which I liked) and Supercross 3D on Jaguar (which I freaking hated. As a Motorcross fan, 32X murders the Jaguar in the Motorcross department. LOL). This should be a cool video!
I say tempest2000 #1, avp #2, doom #3, wolf3d#4 and rayman/nba jam/fightforlife/checkered flag/😆 mk clones #5 but 32x is virtua fighter #1, virtua racing #2, doom #3, star wars #4 and mk2/nbajam/knuckles/tempo/kolibri #5...Iron soldier and 32x mech game tied
Sorry I guess I found the 1 32x motocross fan 😃
Supercross is bad? Looks like super sega burnout
the 32x NBA jam does also have the spite scaling btw
Just a little bit 😆
Awesome comparison! The jag doesnt get enough love.
Too true 😃
@@SecondOpinionGames1 true!! Avp was 3 games in one .. you can just get that game for the jaguar and that alone justifies your purchase.
The Jaguar had to win, “Do the Math!!”
Easy win 🏆
I think both the Jaguar and 32x have two 32 bit processors. So it’s like a hybrid tie.
now things are starting to add up lol
jaguar is underrated
I dont think sega seen the jaguar as a threat
At the time they did. That is why they made the 32X.
Check out Doom 32X Resurrection. Finally, Doom 32X has been made proper. It even has split screen multiplayer.
Sounds awesome 😃
Waiting for part2 :).great video thx.
I know it’s down the road 😃
BC Racers is not on very many systems at all - I think only on the Sega CD and 32X. I don’t know if it even got a PC release.
3do. Game boy I think 🤔
The fact that it's not that crazy to compare the 32x to the Jag is a bit embarrassing for the Jag ^_^
The 33x was way more capable than any game on the system. Doom only uses one 32bit processor and there is a full screen version that is just as good or better than the jaguar. The jaguar was also more capable than any game on the system.. we never got to see what those systems could really do. 3do, 32x, and jaguar were never really pushed..
I think Hover tank actually looks good. I like the very rendered look of the jag. Sometimes it can be too dark though
Very dark 😃
you forgot mortal kombat 2 sega 32x vs ultra vortek for jaguar jaguar is victorious -_-
the new Doom Resurrection on 32x beats the jag version in all areas now and has split screen and system link , however i do understand its not a fair comparison and im sure someone could make a better Jag version than the original if they wanted to. Also if you compare Steller Assault with Battlesphere its much fairer as SA is much more of a similar game and not arcade port. its pretty much split down the middle with these 2 consoles and i love them both , i still regret selling off my jag :( (still got the 32x lol)
Yes, please do a part two.
32x vs Jaguar sounds about right. They were both equally as bad
No. The Jaguar is much better. Just not that good overall 😀
@@SecondOpinionGames1 Yeah, Jaguar probably had the edge on hardware but SEGA had better software
As one of the few people who both owned AND loved my 32X-CD "Tower of Power," I have to give it to the Jaguar for hardware. It was simply the most powerful console at the time and, had it been released as a Jaguar CD, would've given the PlayStation and even the Saturn a hard time in the console wars. Nevertheless, too many games were rushed or done by novices, and the hardware contained bugs and was difficult to develop for. If only Atari had released an upgraded console version of the Lynx in 1990, they'd have had a 16-bit competitor with some serious 3D graphics capabilities, at least letting them compete on the low end. And they'd be starting with a library of 74 games to a system that could do decent arcade ports.
Very small teams also
You should do 3do vs Jag vs 32x
I need more 3do games
@@SecondOpinionGames1 I have a 3do it's worth it lol
The Jaguar just had many games that could square up to the 32x line-up of games but nobody has mentioned, such as:
-I-War vs. T-Mek
-Defender 2000 vs. Kolibri
-Star Wars Arcade vs. Skyhammer
-Battlemorph vs. Shadow Squadron
-Metal Head vs. Iron Soldier
-Chaotix vs. Rayman
-Blackthorne vs. Flashback
-DarXide vs. Zero 5
🤔 that does sound like a good video 😃
Flashback is one of my favourite games to play on my Jaguar
great idea...doom is hard...1 is full screen no music, 1 is 75% screen but music, both have great homebrew versions with full screen and sound , both have 3d racers and 3d fighters both have wolf 3d, both great 2d games too like nba jam...I go 32x by a bit...51% to 49%
I see your point, but don't forget AVP, Iron Soldier, Tempest 200.. Those 3 games and Doom are reason enough to get the Jag...32x has VF, Starwars, VR, Tempo, and MK2... Yes good fight!!!!
@@johnjay6370 I say tempest2000 #1, avp #2, doom #3, wolf3d#4 and rayman/nba jam/fightforlife/checkered flag/😆 mk clones #5 but 32x is virtua fighter #1, virtua racing #2, doom #3, star wars #4 and mk2/nbajam/knuckles/tempo/kolibri #5...Iron soldier and 32x mech game tied 😆
Great video
Your preference aside, I was suprised how much better the Jag version of Primal Rage actually is: higher color depht (look at the diphtering in the 32x version!), nicer details, animations are smoother and it runs way better. So a clear win for the Jag in my book. The CD argument does not count, as Battlesphere is even rarer than the CD Addon(except you buy a repro or play it on GD). But PR can also be played on GD.;-)
Overall, I still think the 32X has the better library, but the Jaguar has some really noteworthy highlights, showing off the capabilities of the hardware. :-D
Thanks for the watch and the feedback. I love just seeing these games side by side 😃
I just don't get it man. Sega virtual racing looked and played perfect every other game you had shown looked and played like dog food. How is one game so on the ball and nothing else could even hold it's frame rate. Primal rage for the SNES was great, but neither of these systems could pull it off? You used the words "kind'a fun" a lot.
Thanks for the surprisingly fun video.
Thanks I’ll work on that 😃
I will give Blue Lightning a thumbs up in the metal music wich is its best feature. Lol
I love it 😃🙏
What you are doing wrong on the 32X motocross game is you are
1) playing it &
2) expecting it to not be broken 😜
I see. I can try it again and make it work. Crap I just broke rule 1
@@SecondOpinionGames1 no worries, just don't hurt yourself 😂
Afterburner is great but why is it 30fps not 60fps
Even with both processors the 32x couldn't handle 60 fps... The Saturn Sega Ages version is where it's at:)
@@MrSez1979 why are genesis games 60 but 32x 30?
@@rustymixer2886 It has something to do with scrolling... The 32x is ineffectual at it I believe... Sega Lord X compared Genesis/Sega CD/32X games on his channel... And showed that the Genesis versions of games were 60fps, while the 32x versions unfortunately were 30fps... 2D games may have more assets and look better while standing still on the 32X, but while scrolling, the Genesis is superior in many ways... Definite design flaw of the 32X... I still think the add-on gets a bum wrap though... Def some quality games...
@@MrSez1979 indeed...ah thx
@@rustymixer2886 you got it Mac:)
Do a part 2 :) great video
Ok but later 😃👍
@@SecondOpinionGames1 😀 your channel is the best. Keep up the great work
This is the sort of weird matchup that's going to drive people to violence, because the systems are so obscure that the fans are SUPER defensive. Over on AtariAge, which I'm guessing you may know given the Wave One reviews, there are two or three threads on this topic that are 25-30 pages. Fascinating.
Well I’m reviewing a Atari age game soon. And it’s one of my favorite for the system 😃. I don’t know why anyone would take what I say so Seriously
Sega was supposed to make virtua racing for jaguar via lawsuit but atari went under and didn't come out thats why before atari made tmek for 32x as they thought they would get a gem but didn't
Atari Corp. (Jaguar company) didn’t make T-Mek, Atari Games (arcade division owned by Warner Bros.) did.
@@GregsGameRoom and how did that negate me? It was an Atari game on Sega console and Sega was going to make one for Atari console...are we now going to talk about Atari hasbro or Atari WB or Atari Commodore or Atari infogrames etc? Should I note 32x was Sega of America 💡not parent SOJ ? I mean its semantics, idk what happened 100% with either Atari Corp or Atari games and who bought them, nor care. I thought in 1980 Atari as one brand was sold to WB idk if Atari Corp bought by commodore and wb kept Atari games its confusing as hell...Its Atari France now, so whichever it was or combined a guy bought Atari name and made VCS now.
@@rustymixer2886 In 1984, Warner Bros split Atari into two divisions: consumer and arcade. The consumer division was sold to Jack Tramiel & family, this became Atari Corp. WB renamed the arcade division Atari Games (Namco also owned a stake, and they have a long history with Atari). In the late 1980s, the company formed a consumer software studio, Tengen, which made unlicensed games for NES (cough, Tetris War) and Genesis. In 1994, the company was renamed Time Warner Interactive (yuck) and continued to make games for Genesis, 32x and Saturn. Eventually, they were bought out by Williams-Midway until that company died (rip).
Atari Corp continued until 1996, when the Tramiel Family finally dumped everything onto a hard disc manufacturer, who later sold the Atari rights to Hasbro, who later sold it to Infograph’s, who later sold it to some cheap casino gamblers who own the name today.
@@DTM-Books ah ok 🙏 thx that was precise
Also, hilariously, there are multiple DOWNSIDES to using the Jag CD instead of the stock machine.
Yes they can be a pain to deal with 😃
@@SecondOpinionGames1 absolutely, but I meant technical downsides. Like you already mentioned, there's no hardware upgrade in the Jag CD. It's just built to give you access to that storage space. And it cost precious cycles to run the damned thing, you lose out on saving, even the blitter gets slowed down by the thing. it's a nightmare.
doom and nba jam te definitely better on the jaguar
Since t mek is done by atari why didn't they put it on the jaguar instead of 32x? The jaguar would've been able to handle it wouldn't it?
Sure. But TMEK is not really good without the Arcade hardware and the network play. The engine uses scaled sprites instead of polygons. I think even the Lynx would be capable to do a fairly good version of it (Battlewheels is very similar!)
While they War on the 16 bit 3 mega hz cpu Super Nintendo pull out ahead 😂 really embarrassing
The SNES is a power house
I feel both systems were robbed of good games I think they could have done beautiful things with both machines and really push the hardware but nobody really came close and they died before they got the chance
32X motocross championship...."Hey!!!" "Hey!!!" " Hey!!!" "Hey!!!"........
Doom without music loses so much to me, I prefer the 32X version by far because of it.
I know what your saying, but I prefer the JAG version because of Full Screen and all the sprite Sides. Meaning you will see all sides of the monsters not just them facing you. The Jag and 32X version had design timeline limitations, it is just how development goes... Both systems are very close in total power.
@@johnjay6370 I can see you point of view too. They are both compromised, but I would rather have the 32X limitations than no music at all.
I don't like the music and the Jaguar Doom is way better were it counts: graphics, performance and gameplay. ;-) The Doom music on the 32x sounds awful, it's one of the worst versions of the OST. So I prefer silence!
Another thing is that modern horror games like Dead Space only play music in specific moments, while mostly using ambient sounds and noises to create an unsettling atmosphere. That is why Doom on the Jaguar has some special and unique appeal to me, sometimes less is more and AvP did that too!
I can see that 😃
You’re obviously playing BC racers on an emulator because it doesn’t run that fast or smooth on 32X at all. You can’t review it honestly on emulation
The picture looked worse when I recorded it from the 32x. The av cables made the image way to soft. The Sega CD version is my favorite.
Do Tiger Electronics LCD handhelds VS The original Nintendo Gameboy lol
Lmao ok dude. 32x is far better. VF VR MK2 alone make it better than Jaguar. Not to mention tempo, knuckles chaotix, and its a chaeper system to own and buy for.
The Sega CD is more my jam 😃
For me the Jag wins here on NBA Jam, Hoverstrike and Atari Kart, the rest I would give to the 32X.
Doom, Primal Rage and Battlesphere are also clear wins for me.
Ok that seems fair 😃
Music in NBA Jam Jaguar is kinda weird and creepy. It’s not great in the 32X but it makes for a more normal NBA Jam experience. Both are great, though.
BC Racers should have been good. The Sega CD game was maybe a little better than the 32X remake even though it looked a lot worse. I don’t think Core’s heart was in it.
You sound like 👍 barely an inconvenience movie review guy on youtube 😆
Oh yeah, Atari Jaguar is a true blast processing by CPU Motorola 16bits!!! With dual 64bits defender graphics. Lol
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stupid troll
Im so excited 😆