Geoff Castellucci Vs Tim Foust Bass Battle
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Cole Fountain- • Geoff Castellucci C2 C...
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Notes I didn’t include or are debated.
Tim Foust Eb1 in house party is 100% growl, just EQ a lot.
Tim Foust- Butts remix, I don’t hear a F#1 chest, or maybe the note is just pitched shifted.
Geoff Castellucci- Mr Blue Sky- I don’t really know, sounds like chest until about E1. I don’t know why he would fry that if it’s a slide.
Geoff Castellucci- Cheerleader- 100% chest. I can only hear chest all the way through.
I would love to see both of these men sing together
They did, lol.
@@gametime2473 what video?
@@susangrant902 just sing voice play cover
Can we not just appreciate the talent of these two singers? They are both amazing just like Avi, Elliot Robinson, Richard Sterban and many others but every time I watch one of these videos the first thing I see is arguments about who is better/who’s right/who’s lower and I would just like to go into the comments and see positivity for once.
Ikr
I think geoff has a lower chest range because he is a generally low speaker
5:46 was subharmonic
D1 wasnt his lowest sub, the subharmonic in 1:20 of oogie boogie song was C#1 but had an octave above it for that affect. The C1 and B0 were in warriors were actually subharmonics, however the A0 was edited in. and the B0 for tim foust fishing in the boondocks was forgotten too
Scraggs: WOW, I’m so dumb I thought I put subs.
Bass Nerdd the example he did in one of the Q&A's that was growled
Scraggs: Tbh I don’t think he actually hit the c#1. I think it’s a just an effect.
Bass Nerdd it sounded mechanical yes, but that was because he also did it octaved up in chest, giving it that weird affect
@@scraggyboi Voiceplay said nothing about that the c and b where subharmonics so they are probably pitch shifted as well. If you pitch the whole song up you can hear the octave effect throughout the whole song
Geoff ´s F1 in DADDY SANG BASS is subharmonics
Tim foust has a B0 in boondocks
Superblooner1: Yes I know I only wanted to go up to C1
amazing : goeff = king of subharmonics, tim = king of growl. avi = king of baritone voice?
King of smoothness
They can all sing baritone but close enough i suppose
Actually let me make it even more difficult: david larson king of subharmonics and inward bass
Avi is the king of tone. But I look at it this way, Tim and Geoff are close to 40 (Their voices are matured) but Avi is getting close to 30. So imagine his voice when he gets to Tim and Geoffs age
@@beastbox4822 avi’s actually 31!
Tim Foust C#1 and C1 are growl Notes
And vocal fry
1:48 is G#1
5:45 Subharmonic*
Love Tim and Geoff's Range
How about Tim’s ability to sustain those low notes forever...
The lowest note of Tim is F#1 and at 5:45 it's a subharmonics note
It chest fry.
Why people classify they like Bass-baritone? Can u guys explain me? I thought they were basso profundo
bass
Opa, deixou escapar o português no final kkkk eu acho que eles são baixos profundos msm...
@@leumas8688 um brasileiro identifica outro brasileiro em qualquer lugar do mundo kkkkkk
Classification isn’t just “the lowest this guy can go”. It’s where the singer is comfortable. Geoff likes to call himself a baritone, with a bass extension... because he’s more comfortable in the low third and high second octaves than he is in lower second and first octaves. Tim seems to be the same, although only he can really say. A basso profundo would be *most* comfortable in the low second and high first octaves, which for both of these singers is not true. Just because they can sing there doesn’t mean they’re classified there automatically.
*VERY LONG ANSWER ALERT*
I am a musician, I have been playing violin for already 9 years and in the last two years I started learning academic singing (operatic singing), so, I kinda know what I'm talking about. So, people classify Geoff as a bass-baritone, mostly because he said himself, that he's a bass-baritone, and they classify Tim as a bass-baritone... Idk why they do it actually 😂, my best guess that it is because he's range is pretty close to Geoff's. Cassifying an estrade singer might be tricky, because it's hard to tell, when do they loose resonance so much, that it wouldn't be a usable note in academic singing, and to classify a singer you need to know their range, that would be noticeable in an opera hall with no mike (basically, this is what tessitura is). Usually academic singers have about 2 whole tones below their last usable low note, and about 1 whole tone (on a good day) above their last stable usable high note. The tessitura of a *good* operatic high bass (basso cantante in Italian classification system) would be ~E2-F#4; "central bass" (the middle subtype if a bass) would have something about usable D2-E4; and a basso profondo would have ~B1-C4. The problem of classifying Geoff and Tim, is that they only perform on mike, they are singing estrade, not opera, and they both have inhuman full chest ranges (Tim with chest ~G1-A4, and Geoff with chest ~F#1-A4). As you see, these ranges cover everything from basso profondo to high baritone, but they both (especially Geoff) doesn't have much power and resonance on their lowest notes. As I have said, the difference between usable low note and very lowest note of a *trained operatic singer* is about 2 whole tones, so Geoff and Tim should both have a resonant Bb1 and be classified as a basso profondo, BUT they don't have much resonance below D2. Strange, right? This might be due to their specialisation. They just needn't to have those note as resonant because they perform on mike, so they focus more on the tone, then on resonance and letting their microphones do the work. On the other hand, Avi was originaly trained as an operatic singer, and this is why he's very lowest note is higher, than Geoff's and Tim's, but he's resonant notes go up to ~C2 (which is just about two tones above his very lowest note), which is even lover, than Geoffs and Tims lowest resonant notes, whose voices *are* overall deeper, then Avis (due to voice colour and full range). Theoretically, if Geoff and Tim will learn how to sing in operatic manner, they shouldn't have any troubles reaching a *DAMN LOUD* B1-A1 on any day, because, even while having really high notes, their actual *natural voice*, speaking voice, has their "voice colour" close to a basso profondo (compare their speaking voice to, for example, Glenn Miller's voice, and then compare Avi's voice to Glenn Miller's. Geoff and Tim would be closer to Glenn, then Avi). So, I would say, that Geoff is (the following might sound strange) an undeveloped lyric central bass or, even, high basso profondo with insane higher range extension and ability to sing even in bass-baritones (or, maybe, even pure baritones) tessitura. And I haven't hear Tim as much, as I've listened to Geoff, but my guess would be lyric-dramatic central bass, also with insane higher extension.
Note: central bass is a type if bass between basso cantante (highest true bass) and basso profondo (lowest subtype of true bass), which is not present in all voice classification systems, but it's used commonly in countries like Ukraine, Poland, Russia etc. I'm from Ukraine, so I'm used to it
7:18 I think first 3-4 seconds that's E1, later Eb1
Nice, like the clips you chose like the Pizza party G1 and fry C1. 1:49 is G#1, I used it as Bb1 too my bad for that mistake. Great video
Cole Fountain: Yea I couldn’t find it on Patreon, so I just kind of stole it.
I like Tim. However, my money is on Geoff. Especially when he drops those basement notes suddenly. I swear, every time I feel the earth itself tremble in fear.
What about that subharmonic B0 and C1 in worriors
gavin Collins it’s probably lowered an octave in post production
Theirs an A0 too
I like the G#1 growl note of jeff
Sorry Geoff
How can Tim growl for so long. That takes so much air
5:46 is a sub and tims lowest countable chest is a f#1, tims lowest fry is a G0, geoffs lowest sub is B0 tims lowest growl is A0(In think a little less)
that A-1 was Adam Rupp's kick in take me home
@@calebcooper2841 Yes ive found that out, thanks though :)
Big up splice. Nice range of clips
Pretty sure 3:52 is a C2 ish. Don’t think the slide reaches G
Also I think Tim’s Beer Budget G1 is growled. No way he can chest a G1 that well, but idk 🤷♂️
Matthew Dockray: Thanks, I tried to include clips from Geoff that nobody uses. Like the pizza pateron one that you told me, and 1 minute science.
I think he chested a G1 in Dreamer, and a live version of it has a slide at the end down to G1.
He is. It's hard to explain or understand how unless you're a bass. I'm not sure how and I can do it pretty much whenever. The transition from chest to throat to fry to growl to SH or whatever doesn't necessarily need to happen all the time. While using restricted breath control, the notes are more relaxed and less projected. That's why we can sing lower when sick. Bass is voluntarily controlled respiratory laziness compared to other parts. Granted, the throat needs to be completely clear the entire way or it'll crack.
Best incitement I got for ya.....
Yesterday i saw a video of Tim from cameo that someone posted on TH-cam, and i swear, Tim spoke at G1 2 times i think...his voice is getting sooo deep, that's good. If someone want to see, i send the link with the timestamp.
It is Tho it’s hard to tell but it’s a G1 in chest voice
Damn almost did this video
Geoff has lowest chest voice and is best at subharmonic registers and this video is incorrect, geoff hit B0 AND A0 in warriors do yea.....
And it's funny how geoff can hit G#1 with his day to day chest voice, imagine his lowest note
What about Geoff vs Tim growl
Plus Geoff said there was no A one
I think 5:46 its a subharmonic, isnt it?
Yea it is
Not sure, but it's very clean!
Wow!
OK I'm no expr here but I'll give it to Geoff!
0:56 is Bb1
BadamB B: I honestly didn’t know I was between a B1 and Bb1. So I just guessed a B1
9:02 Hey, what's the name of that song from the background? I'm searching the name for that music for ages, and I still don't know the name. Can someone tell me the name of the song from that background, please?? The music is awesome!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Tim wins this one for me geoff is good but not my favorite
there are some low notes missing here from Tim's Low Range....Geoff is clean but Tim still stomps
Tim = Geoff
Geoff doesn't actually reach any E1 in Cheerleader. Goeff's lowest subharmonic is B0 and growl B0 too. I liked you put the right lowest countable chest notes.
Idk if Geoff is actually a bass-baritone, but Geoff's voice sounds a bit lower than Tim. Geoff's not a bass like Avi, but neither a bass-baritone like Tim in my opinion
Ale Bormio what does the Cheerleader note reach, F or F#?
@@colefountain1030 F# in my opinion
Avi can't be a bass, can't get lower than Geoff
But I agree Tim is a bass baritone
@@josephstanfields3510 Avi is a bass, lower than Geoff and Tim; his voice and resonance is lower than Geoff, even his lowest chest note is G1 despite Geoff's F#1; but this isn't too important
Can anybody tell me what the VoicePlay video at 8:02 is? Its when Geoff hits the D1.
Boy bands in 5 minutes
@@crunchycrackers7364 Thank you!
Geoff sung a B0 subharmonic in warriors
最高です！！
you missed so many notes in this video
Like what, I didn’t want to make the video 40 min long
I prefer Tim's sound. It sounds like its easier for him to hit those notes and they're just so clean
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Love both bass singers but Tim IMO is clearly better. His tone is so much more resonant. Love Geoff too though. He's amazing.
1:42
i can hit from D2 to Bb4 what my type voice?
@Caleb Brecken ou thank you
i would say bass if your E2 is resonant and load enough. but lets say your lowest resonant is like G1 i would say baritone.
but you can go pretty high but that also depends on how well you can use it. for example i am lucky enough to be able to whistle note a C8 but i would never be able to sing that high. Hitting a note is different than singing it in a way
Mine is: old C#1 - A5 now: C3- A4.
I can hit every single one of these notes..... in the morning. Lol!
The key to singing low... Relax. That's it! Relax the vocal chords and chest, and stretch out your throat from top to bottom so it can then relax. There should actually be little effort put into the singing of bass. The more relaxed the efforts, the lower ya go!
5:47 that's subharmonic