They're still built to a price and will not be the same as their aftermarket counterparts. He is correct by saying it adds more adjustability. For an extra 1k do you really think you're going to get major upgrades ?
Most people focus on performance. But the SP suspension is significantly better at soaking up bumps too! And I have different settings for track and street and yes, they make a big difference at least for feedback and comfort, if maybe (don't know, did not test softer setting on track) not so much on lap times. The review is pretty light on info to be honest. I have the previous gen SP and was curious about the feel and performance of the new calipers. I found out they are shiny by watching this video.
If the keyless ignition on the MT09 is anything like on Yamaha's XMax range - it's gonna be shite. I lived with the ball-ache of a keyless XMAX300 and after selling it to go back to a "normal" key ignition, I'm never going keyless again. Finnicky, battery runs out, fiddly little turn dial that gets corrosion and doesn't respond eventually, another thing to go wrong, (which Yamaha's XMAX ones did, a lot - they had to do a number of re-designs, they were so regularly failing, Yamaha should have recalled them). In my limited experience, I'd say beware keyless ignition. It's trying to solve a problem no one but delivery riders have.
kay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the kisluxbag book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations
I was looking at buying a new Triumph Street Triple 765 RS next year, which is obviously a fantastic bike, but when comparing it to the new Yamaha MT-09 SP, I think overall the SP comes out on top. The Street Triple might handle slightly better, but when you consider what you get for your hard-earned cash, such as Yamaha's full electronics suite of goodies, you can't ignore the MT-09. Considering the prices of bikes these days, it's an excellent bike for the price. You also get peace of mind from having Japanese build quality and reliability, and it has more than enough power for the road. Plus, I haven't seen a bad review yet for the MT-09, everyone is saying at the moment and for the money, it's probably the best street naked out there!
@@DucatiDale Yep, the CP3 is an excellent engine. I did manage to get a demo on a 2021 Yamaha Tracer 9 GT, but didn't really get on with the bike, and also I didn't really like the sound of the bike when riding around town. I had a Yamaha Ténéré 700 at the time, and that sounded much better. That CP2 engine was also a cracker. Saying that, the Tracer sounded really nice when I opened it up down a slip road onto the motorway. As far as I can tell, this version of MT-09 sounds much better in all situations, especially with the addition of the "grin-inducing" acoustic grilles. I've got a Suzuki SV650 at the moment with a slip-on fitted, and it sounds epic. I'm not in a hurry, so I'll wait until the deals start on the 2024 models. It looks like an excellent bike, and it's got every thing going for it, except for that exhaust!
@@DucatiDale I did manage to get a demo on a Yamaha Tracer 9 GT three years ago, but I didn't really get on with the bike, plus I didn't like the sound of it when riding around town at slow speeds. But, it sounded really nice when I opened it up down a slip road onto the motorway. As far as I can tell from online reviews, the 2024 MT-09 sounds much better.
@@soulrebelno1 it’s the same engine and exhaust pretty much bar a couple of tweaks for euro regs but you get the grills on the tank they sound epic with a exhaust on chucked a scorpion one on mine
If you’re only or mainly doing street riding the MT09 is probably more rewarding and exciting than the STRS. If you’re doing a lot of trackdays, the Triumph is probably the better choice. Personally I would choose the KTM890R over both of them, not for the looks but for the sheer performance and thrill. Saying that after owning three different generations of Street Triples. Not taking reliability into the equation, that KTM is a marvel to ride. If you like the engine configuration that is. For me it takes the best of both the MT and the STRS and fits it into a not so good looking, but very enjoyable package.
So much talent. You make any bike look good. Entertainment at its best. And my comment on the bike. It’s about time Yamaha why did you wait so long. It’s a shame the R1 missed out on Brembo brakes.
Great video as always. I'd love to see a comparison between the MT-09 SP and Street Triple 765 RS. I'm looking at both bikes and in my market the MT-09 SP is $3000 more than the MT-09 and $1950 more than a ST 765 RS with desired options (heated grips, cruise control, TPMS, protection accessories, etc). An educated, considered comparison would help put the value proposition of each bike into perspective since despite being somewhat different takes on the naked bike formula the MT-09 and ST 765 RS, in my opinion, are direct competitors. Plus, it would be a hoot to see Chris thrash both bikes in his wonderfully exuberant way.
It's already been released in the USA, just in very limited supply to high volume dealers based on pre-orders. Seen around 5-10 people across Washington, Oregon, Utah, California, and all the way to Virginia get theirs. Some even got delivered a month ago. If you don't already have a pre-order at a dealer you likely won't be getting one of these any time soon
Own a 2023 SP, road a 2024 today, engine and quick shifter are functionally identical, if I wanted my wrists and back to hurt I would have purchased the visually better in every way 765 street triple RS. Super happy that I got the last year of the comfortable MT09SP.
At 4:00 you mention that you can diaable the rear ABS. Do you know if that feature is only available on the SP or does the base model allow it as well? Thanks.
I currently have an MT 10 SP, but want to get a 09 SP. Why?? Lighter bike, better at cornering and it feels more agile. Just my personal opinion. Can't go wrong with the triple sound
From what it seems the 765RS handles better and is better for track days but the engine is much more linear ("boring"). The power is high in the range for the 765, the MT09 has more torque in the middle. The position is also sportier on the 765.
Looks like an absolute blast chris! Here in Australia it's about $5000 AUD more than the standard non SP variant so for that amount of difference would you think buying suspension upgrades for the non SP would be a better bang for the buck choice?
I think Yamaha is about to give us the clutchless system in 2025 gor to MT 09 . Similar to mountain bicycle shifters . No clutch in the left handle which is much better and the shifters are in the left handle instead of the left leg which is a preferance and yamaha has prefered the left handle position but I have somerging to say regarding the location of the shifters. All riders would prefer the clutchless platform, no doubt about it , yet many tradtional riders would prefer the shifter staying in the bleft leg insted of moving ti the left handle. I think Yamaha can give in the same bike the option shift gears with a left bar shifter or eith the left leg in an interchangeable manner ; Lets the rider wishes to shift gear so he can choose to do it either way on the gly without the need to turn of any of them to ingage the other... It is a more variable approach which will make the new system more pleasing for a wider croud- both traditional riders and non trafitional rider , may be new riders. By the way itvis not a smsll detail it is achuge detail .
I'm aiming to get an SD1290GT later this year and if the finance for that doesn't materialise, my backup plan is to get an MT09SP. I don't see the backup as being that much less valid. It'd be nice to have the power, but the hooliganity (just invented that word, see? Anybody can be like Shakespeare) of both makes them, for me, two of the most alike bikes on the market. Maybe not in any single respect, but just in their basic outlook. BTW, the one thing I really don't like about the base one is those awful blue wheels, these are just so much nicer.
Skids, wheelies, stopies, burnouts and general stupidity. That’s what the MT09 should always be about, just a machine that gives you the biggest smile.
@@mikes.8305 Just the Ohlins rear shocks will run you $1100... Now add the Brembo brakes and you're already getting your monies worth without adding the KYB front forks.
I have been WAITING for this. When the gen4 came out my immediate though was "damn the SP is gonna be a slick bit of kit" and was I right! Excellent review Chris, always fun watching you dick around on bikes. So glad to hear the keyless includes tank operation! BMW take notes
I wish reviewers would be a bit more accurate with things like pricing. This bike is actually £1700 pounds more than the standard 09, meaning it's probably not worth buying. If it was only a grand more expensive as stated in the video it would be better value than the standard 09, so the video is misleading.
Excellent video....for a motorcycle that redefined the profound notion of freedom, on a mean of transport that more than often is considered dangerous. Not too slow, not too fast, a platform that engages you to become a better rider, with ease. This motorcycle is a genuine smile machine!!! I remember the first time I test rode the gen1 MT09...it was an overwelming ecstasy... I couldnt comperhend the riding pleasure of that engine.... It provoceded me to do things effortlessly with total control, that I couldnt believe possible.. All in all...a 99% perfection for an average rider..., I guess....it is as good as it gets...!!! It is the Goldilocks zone of motorcyling!!! Enough said!!!
New Mt09sp is really good bike… BUT… it loses more of its original charm… Previous mt-09sp is the Goldilock of “a bit of supermoto + a bit of road bike with proper front”. Chris compared last gen Mt-09sp to hypermotard. Another odd duck - unique yet undoubtly playful machine. Now the new gen of MT09sp becomes too much of road biased naked. It’s like now we need to compare to MonsterSP instead of hypermotard. It’s not a bad thing. More practical and maybe faster. But again, more fun? Not necessarily. Less unique? Sadly for sure.
Great stuff as always Chris, you never disappoint. One question bothers me. When will Yamaha give us the R9? Because when it appears, I will visit the Yamaha dealer on the same day.
I don't know man, this engine is great fun on a naked short bike. Might be a bit not enough for a supersport with a longer swingarm, like they did in the XSR900GP.
Those shots with skids, wheelies, wheelspins etc makes your videos that much more special!
I wouldn't refer to an upgraded Brembo caliper and an Ohlins rear shock as "Fancy looking bits". They are both major upgrades IMO.
I agree, especially if you take it to the occasional track day
They're still built to a price and will not be the same as their aftermarket counterparts. He is correct by saying it adds more adjustability. For an extra 1k do you really think you're going to get major upgrades ?
Most people focus on performance. But the SP suspension is significantly better at soaking up bumps too! And I have different settings for track and street and yes, they make a big difference at least for feedback and comfort, if maybe (don't know, did not test softer setting on track) not so much on lap times.
The review is pretty light on info to be honest. I have the previous gen SP and was curious about the feel and performance of the new calipers. I found out they are shiny by watching this video.
Best part is Chris explains the feeling and what the bike can do and shows us. Anybody can read a spec sheet. Cheers ya nutter!
I hate spec sheet reviews. I'm convinced all those people are posers who don't really have anything to say.
We’re saying nothing!
I came on youtube to play study music but then I saw Chris so here I am.
Thank you Chris!
It is a nice clutch lever to be fair 😂
Just can't get past the looks. Great bike I'm sure but I've got to love the look. Went for ST RS in yellow. Well pleased.
Big thanks to chris for making reviews fun. NEVER change!
First SP review!
Chris Northover: The Chris Harris of the bike world. And I'm here for it!
I've yet to see Chris Harris do a stoppie.
If the keyless ignition on the MT09 is anything like on Yamaha's XMax range - it's gonna be shite. I lived with the ball-ache of a keyless XMAX300 and after selling it to go back to a "normal" key ignition, I'm never going keyless again. Finnicky, battery runs out, fiddly little turn dial that gets corrosion and doesn't respond eventually, another thing to go wrong, (which Yamaha's XMAX ones did, a lot - they had to do a number of re-designs, they were so regularly failing, Yamaha should have recalled them). In my limited experience, I'd say beware keyless ignition. It's trying to solve a problem no one but delivery riders have.
Had an xmax 300 for 15,000 kms, never had ANY issues with the keyless system. Loved it!
You're supposed to cover your bike if you leave it outside. Everything corrodes eventually if it's wet.
@@aluisious I never covered my Xmax 300 and the keyless system never gave me any issues
I agree, nobody wanted keyless ignition. Because of that I will keep my 2023 SP till I replace it with a Street tripple.
@@JoeStanek-vu7rl That's indeed the big choice..
I'm getting this bike when I'm ready to sell my R6. I'd get the SP just because of the colour scheme alone!
kay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the kisluxbag book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations
I was looking at buying a new Triumph Street Triple 765 RS next year, which is obviously a fantastic bike, but when comparing it to the new Yamaha MT-09 SP, I think overall the SP comes out on top. The Street Triple might handle slightly better, but when you consider what you get for your hard-earned cash, such as Yamaha's full electronics suite of goodies, you can't ignore the MT-09. Considering the prices of bikes these days, it's an excellent bike for the price. You also get peace of mind from having Japanese build quality and reliability, and it has more than enough power for the road. Plus, I haven't seen a bad review yet for the MT-09, everyone is saying at the moment and for the money, it's probably the best street naked out there!
It’s a better engine for the road than the triumph as well
@@DucatiDale Yep, the CP3 is an excellent engine. I did manage to get a demo on a 2021 Yamaha Tracer 9 GT, but didn't really get on with the bike, and also I didn't really like the sound of the bike when riding around town. I had a Yamaha Ténéré 700 at the time, and that sounded much better. That CP2 engine was also a cracker. Saying that, the Tracer sounded really nice when I opened it up down a slip road onto the motorway.
As far as I can tell, this version of MT-09 sounds much better in all situations, especially with the addition of the "grin-inducing" acoustic grilles. I've got a Suzuki SV650 at the moment with a slip-on fitted, and it sounds epic. I'm not in a hurry, so I'll wait until the deals start on the 2024 models. It looks like an excellent bike, and it's got every thing going for it, except for that exhaust!
@@DucatiDale I did manage to get a demo on a Yamaha Tracer 9 GT three years ago, but I didn't really get on with the bike, plus I didn't like the sound of it when riding around town at slow speeds. But, it sounded really nice when I opened it up down a slip road onto the motorway. As far as I can tell from online reviews, the 2024 MT-09 sounds much better.
@@soulrebelno1 it’s the same engine and exhaust pretty much bar a couple of tweaks for euro regs but you get the grills on the tank they sound epic with a exhaust on chucked a scorpion one on mine
If you’re only or mainly doing street riding the MT09 is probably more rewarding and exciting than the STRS. If you’re doing a lot of trackdays, the Triumph is probably the better choice. Personally I would choose the KTM890R over both of them, not for the looks but for the sheer performance and thrill. Saying that after owning three different generations of Street Triples. Not taking reliability into the equation, that KTM is a marvel to ride. If you like the engine configuration that is. For me it takes the best of both the MT and the STRS and fits it into a not so good looking, but very enjoyable package.
So much talent. You make any bike look good. Entertainment at its best. And my comment on the bike. It’s about time Yamaha why did you wait so long. It’s a shame the R1 missed out on Brembo brakes.
the mt-09 is simply a divine bike... and I'm damn glad I got myself an rn 43 SP back then because all the other models are an imposition on the eyes
Great video as always. I'd love to see a comparison between the MT-09 SP and Street Triple 765 RS. I'm looking at both bikes and in my market the MT-09 SP is $3000 more than the MT-09 and $1950 more than a ST 765 RS with desired options (heated grips, cruise control, TPMS, protection accessories, etc). An educated, considered comparison would help put the value proposition of each bike into perspective since despite being somewhat different takes on the naked bike formula the MT-09 and ST 765 RS, in my opinion, are direct competitors. Plus, it would be a hoot to see Chris thrash both bikes in his wonderfully exuberant way.
$1950 more than a Street Triple RS with options?
Get the Triumph mate.
And that is coming from someone who owned a gen 3 MT-09.
If I could choose one Chris to have a beer with and talk about bikes, I'd pick the nerdy engineer every time 😁
Can you make an update for the big 2025 tech features coming (e.g. automated gearshift with the thumbpaddles), ist it worth waiting?
This guy can ride goddamn
Yes the review I’ve been waiting for
Would you buy over the 990?
Just wish they'd offer the SP in all black and I'm sold.
I’ve been waiting for this to be released in the USA.
It’s strange. I’ve only seen the standard 2024
@@madrat5176 yes my friend owns a Yamaha dealership and has not received an SP yet.
Been waiting since January 🫠
It's already been released in the USA, just in very limited supply to high volume dealers based on pre-orders. Seen around 5-10 people across Washington, Oregon, Utah, California, and all the way to Virginia get theirs. Some even got delivered a month ago. If you don't already have a pre-order at a dealer you likely won't be getting one of these any time soon
@@thasherm I have yet to see one in southern CA. Only the standard models
What about the brakes? Should be a big upgrade. Thanks for the First ride!
Dude can ride that bike.
👍👍
Yup. Gotta have this one.
I enjoyed my gen 2 MT-09 and now my mate is loving it. Where would we be without the occasional general stupidity?!
Own a 2023 SP, road a 2024 today, engine and quick shifter are functionally identical, if I wanted my wrists and back to hurt I would have purchased the visually better in every way 765 street triple RS. Super happy that I got the last year of the comfortable MT09SP.
How much better is the handling of a Gen4 than a Gen2?
Disain terbaik dr seri MT
How come the 09 now out specs the 10 with the Brembo caliper and keyless ignition?
Which one to go for? The 2024 or the 23 Sp for 12000€ with a more comfortable riding position, need advice
Top level Chris.
Hey Chris, what happens if you go overbalance on a wheelie and use the quickshifter to change down? Is it too violent a landing?
MT-09 is my dream bike... One day.
But does it come in grey and fluro yellow?
it would be a dre to see the mt 09
here we still ride the mt15
we love the Yamaha
Love how the speedo looks like ir was written with a crayon.
60 never looked so fast.
Waking up to this has my anxious out the roof. I've been wiating since January. Need to hang on a little longer 🙃
At 4:00 you mention that you can diaable the rear ABS. Do you know if that feature is only available on the SP or does the base model allow it as well? Thanks.
Yamaha press release for the new 09's mention this is exclusive to the SP.
Only on the SP, Chris usually pulls the fuse though. 😂
So, it would make a good first bike then?
Would you prefer the MT10 or the MT09 ?
I currently have an MT 10 SP, but want to get a 09 SP. Why?? Lighter bike, better at cornering and it feels more agile. Just my personal opinion. Can't go wrong with the triple sound
How to compare MT-09 and 765RS?
From what it seems the 765RS handles better and is better for track days but the engine is much more linear ("boring"). The power is high in the range for the 765, the MT09 has more torque in the middle. The position is also sportier on the 765.
@@therealfakecaptain7978 The Triumph is also lighter.
How it compares to the street triple rs? this is the question
Looks like an absolute blast chris! Here in Australia it's about $5000 AUD more than the standard non SP variant so for that amount of difference would you think buying suspension upgrades for the non SP would be a better bang for the buck choice?
Did it flash the hazards automatically when braking hard? Looked like it. 😢5:33
That looks shithouse you'd want to be able to turn that crap off
How does it compare to KTM SMT?
Some shock linkages would be nice
How’s Chris not winning the wheelie race at the end? Did he stop for a pint in the middle?
It wasn’t actually a race, more synchronised wheelies.
MT 09 24 or Triple 765 ??
Another great one from the legend Chris 😊❤❤😂.
Does skids and wheelies 😂😂😂😂 that's it great review ❤❤😊😊😅😅😅
Yeah I got a bit excited over the clutch perch as it’s been black silver outa the bargain basement bin for a good 20 years
I think Yamaha is about to give us the clutchless system in 2025 gor to MT 09 . Similar to mountain bicycle shifters . No clutch in the left handle which is much better and the shifters are in the left handle instead of the left leg which is a preferance and yamaha has prefered the left handle position but I have somerging to say regarding the location of the shifters.
All riders would prefer the clutchless platform, no doubt about it , yet many tradtional riders would prefer the shifter staying in the bleft leg insted of moving ti the left handle.
I think Yamaha can give in the same bike the option shift gears with a left bar shifter or eith the left leg in an interchangeable manner ; Lets the rider wishes to shift gear so he can choose to do it either way on the gly without the need to turn of any of them to ingage the other... It is a more variable approach which will make the new system more pleasing for a wider croud- both traditional riders and non trafitional rider , may be new riders. By the way itvis not a smsll detail it is achuge detail .
Great review as always. Love the MT09 ❤
I'm aiming to get an SD1290GT later this year and if the finance for that doesn't materialise, my backup plan is to get an MT09SP. I don't see the backup as being that much less valid. It'd be nice to have the power, but the hooliganity (just invented that word, see? Anybody can be like Shakespeare) of both makes them, for me, two of the most alike bikes on the market. Maybe not in any single respect, but just in their basic outlook.
BTW, the one thing I really don't like about the base one is those awful blue wheels, these are just so much nicer.
There is a blue version of the base MT09 with exactly the same wheels. The colour you are referring to is cyan, which isn't blue.
I like your suits. Please tell name of your jacket and pants.
Skids, wheelies, stopies, burnouts and general stupidity. That’s what the MT09 should always be about, just a machine that gives you the biggest smile.
Good job you don't have to pay for your own tyres, Chris!
It’s £1700 more expensive than the stock MT09
It’s a 1000ish! 😂
Did you expect to pay less than that for Ohlins suspension?
@@Waldo1122is it not just an ohlins shock and a kyb fork?
@@mikes.8305 Just the Ohlins rear shocks will run you $1100... Now add the Brembo brakes and you're already getting your monies worth without adding the KYB front forks.
I have been WAITING for this. When the gen4 came out my immediate though was "damn the SP is gonna be a slick bit of kit" and was I right! Excellent review Chris, always fun watching you dick around on bikes. So glad to hear the keyless includes tank operation! BMW take notes
If only they could make it better looking...😊
so are you prefer Duke 890R or MT09 SP ? or 990 duke ? :)
IF you want a reliable bike it's Yamaha. If you want general KTM quality... good luck.
@@mortaljorma69 i have 890 and driving for 13k without issues, i was asking about driving experience itself :)
the new SP is the mt-09 it should have been from day 0. Stock sound is still beyond ass, vacuum cleaner.
Besides that, the new mt is actually amazing
I wish reviewers would be a bit more accurate with things like pricing. This bike is actually £1700 pounds more than the standard 09, meaning it's probably not worth buying. If it was only a grand more expensive as stated in the video it would be better value than the standard 09, so the video is misleading.
We did it as click bait, only joking! You’re right, we’re usually more accurate than that, but it’s still worth it over the standard 09.
Brilliant Bloody f#%kin Brilliant.
Cheers!
In South Africa the crooks are stealing keyless bikes and cars by skimming your key while you shopping or whatever, give me a bog standard key please.
The standard bike is £10100, this one is about £1700 more then. An aftermarket shock on the standard bike would make more sense.
But those brakes are something else..
You aren’t specking a stock mt09 to this level for £1700
I live in a country with lots of „British-like” weather. For this reason, I am done with naked bikes. Got tired of cold wind on my chest.
thank god the fuel cap is keyless because the tank is tiny. maybe they poached the guy who designed the Katana
Excellent video....for a motorcycle that redefined the profound notion of freedom, on a mean of transport that more than often is considered dangerous. Not too slow, not too fast, a platform that engages you to become a better rider, with ease. This motorcycle is a genuine smile machine!!! I remember the first time I test rode the gen1 MT09...it was an overwelming ecstasy... I couldnt comperhend the riding pleasure of that engine.... It provoceded me to do things effortlessly with total control, that I couldnt believe possible.. All in all...a 99% perfection for an average rider..., I guess....it is as good as it gets...!!! It is the Goldilocks zone of motorcyling!!! Enough said!!!
Soooooo would you take the SP over the 890 R or the new 990 Duke?
Just for the reliability alone lol
Would not touch a KTM. Far too many issues.
I don't like the dashboard, it has such thick black borders and such a small display. looks like the iPad 1.
When you call £1700 a thousandish... We don't round numbers the same way, on the continent.
New Mt09sp is really good bike… BUT… it loses more of its original charm… Previous mt-09sp is the Goldilock of “a bit of supermoto + a bit of road bike with proper front”.
Chris compared last gen Mt-09sp to hypermotard. Another odd duck - unique yet undoubtly playful machine. Now the new gen of MT09sp becomes too much of road biased naked. It’s like now we need to compare to MonsterSP instead of hypermotard.
It’s not a bad thing. More practical and maybe faster. But again, more fun? Not necessarily. Less unique? Sadly for sure.
It looks like sir killalot from robot wars!
Oh is it another wet, miserable, day in the UK? I can hardly contain my surprise!
On all cars the keyless ignition systems are the reason so many cars are stolen. I just cannot see any benefit to them.
Great stuff as always Chris, you never disappoint. One question bothers me. When will Yamaha give us the R9? Because when it appears, I will visit the Yamaha dealer on the same day.
Same here. Probably trading in my current bike as soon as i can. 👍🏻
I don't know man, this engine is great fun on a naked short bike. Might be a bit not enough for a supersport with a longer swingarm, like they did in the XSR900GP.
Chris, you keep saying "a thousand pound ish". I'm sorry, but £1,800 is definitely "two thousand pound ish"!
Come on bro!
04:35 toit like a tiger
Yeah it is worth it but I wouldn't buy either
Great Bike but only this mediocre blue silver paint job. That makes it a no for me
Who else clicks the like button before even seeing the video?
Gsxs 750 is the best
I'm trading mine for the MT
2nd
The kind of Nerd we’d all love to be….👍🤪🏳️🌈
1st😂
Keyless is a curse no one needs
Keyless is brilliant
Design is horrible