Chopin Nocturne Ab major Op. 32 no. 2 - Analysis: WOUND UP WALTZING

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  • Pianist Henrik Kilhamn explains this Chopin Nocturne in A flat major, where Chopin fuses the Nocturne style with a crazy waltz middle section. The initial melody is at first comfortable and reassuring, but after the wlatz section it returns in fortissimo and appassionato!
    0:00 Introduction
    1:07 Analysis
    4:17 Middle section
    9:55 Return
    13:10 Performance
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    F. Chopin: Nocturne in Ab major, Op. 32 no. 2. Score: Schirmer edition, 1894, editor: Carl Mikuli
    P. I. Tchaikovsky: Waltz of the Flowers, from The Nutcracker Suite, Op. 71a. Piano arrangement: P. I. Tchaikovsky. Score: P. Jurgenson (1892), Reprinted: D. Rahter (1898)
    📄 Scores available at: imslp.org
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  • @othewisp
    @othewisp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The first time I heard this nocturne my brain melted. Then I understood that Chopin managed to modulate a half-step up so brilliantly.

  • @thesound9888
    @thesound9888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That part you call "main atraction" for me has a sense of madness and chaos, i like it a lot. Including the previous bar, that transition is so amazing, somehow it freezes time.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, it's like it's balancing on the border between order and chaos.

  • @notana833
    @notana833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love how the main melody just came back with more "confidence" its amazing

  • @lyndajoyce6517
    @lyndajoyce6517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have been trying to learn this piece for a month now. Very difficult with all the accidentals! I had no idea there were such resources as yours to help me understand this piece better. The beautiful melodies keep me company during COVID19 isolation. Thank you

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, we all need music the most now I think. Good luck with the piece (I know, so many accidentals, it takes time to make them feel comfortable in the hand). I'm happy you like the video :)

  • @xueqingyu4248
    @xueqingyu4248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    cool!this is one of my favorite Nocturnes

  • @PianoScenesMoviesandSeries
    @PianoScenesMoviesandSeries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is lovely. I have no idea why you have so little views and subscribers, you should have so much more.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The subscribers keep growing in number though :)

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  • @blairinnyc
    @blairinnyc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very enjoyable, thank you. I'm working on this now and have found very few TH-cam tutorials, discussions or masterclasses on this particular piece so I truly enjoyed your enthusiastic analysis.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, it's not in the first row of Nocturnes... Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @AnaPaula-np5rq
    @AnaPaula-np5rq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chopin, my favorite. I believe that at the most in 30 years with a lot of dedication and study, I will be able to play this Chopin Nocturne. Excellent explanation as always. I love your piano. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️👏

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The middle section is the hard part, the first part you will be able to play in a lot less than 30 years! ;)

  • @sukholmes1066
    @sukholmes1066 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't play this piece yet, but in few years I will, I hope.
    Thank you for this posting. I'm sure it takes good amount of time and effort to create one piece.
    Enjoyed a lot. Thank you and feel little smarter!
    It's so wonderful having a teacher in my own room.

  • @alanleoneldavid1787
    @alanleoneldavid1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I played this for the conservatory last year! It's very nice to see and share the chopin's genius through this Nocturne !

  • @philipmurphy2337
    @philipmurphy2337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is my favorite chopin nocturne. Great video!

  • @petersz7322
    @petersz7322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am working on another Nocturne at the moment, but this goes to my "need to learn" list. Thank you for showing us this piece

  • @amandawolf5513
    @amandawolf5513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much! This is my favorite nocturne and deserves more knowledge

  • @chessematics
    @chessematics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I found your channel with the moonlight Sonata video. And now I'm becoming a fan with each video i find.

  • @raulqa
    @raulqa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is great! Thanks so much, this is going to be very useful!

  • @alicialoveschopin6774
    @alicialoveschopin6774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great videos, you made them very enjoyable. I've been learning this Nocturne for a month, it's really lovely to play it. Love the middle section too, can't wait to play it in a fluent way. Thanks Henrik.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm glad to hear it! Good luck with your practicing!

  • @EpicXBoy
    @EpicXBoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks alot man my favourite nocturne ur playing made me cry

  • @raulsuarez9977
    @raulsuarez9977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love it how you play it, so beautiful and so intense the 'appassionato'

  • @marie-francelerouxnd.a.2900
    @marie-francelerouxnd.a.2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanations and wonderful interpretation! Thank you. That middle part rocks!

  • @Mbudd391
    @Mbudd391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your emojis are spot on! And beautiful playing. Thank you.

  • @bernardmarquot996
    @bernardmarquot996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for this analysis! You explain it very well without going into too much dark musical jargon and for an amateur musician (like me for instance), this is really appreciable! You totally revealed this Nocturne to me.
    By the way, after listening to several interpretations of this lovely piece, it seems (imho) that not so many pianists emphasize the waltz section as you do (Kultyshev does a bit). Your playing definetly gives a different taste to the whole thing, putting even more magic in it.
    I'm practicing this by the time and I found it unexpectedly hard to actually sound like waltzing, so hats off to you sir for that too!

  • @lum859
    @lum859 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful and solid performance

  • @noellomigo1749
    @noellomigo1749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your analysis and beautiful playing.

  • @bobbivpappas1011
    @bobbivpappas1011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely beautiful. I love the "master class". It should be required for anyone attempting to learn this piece.

  • @josetrinh
    @josetrinh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ! This is lovely !

  • @erinchillmusic8930
    @erinchillmusic8930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent teaching! Thank you

  • @balqisyrahmania775
    @balqisyrahmania775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am in love with this piece 😍

  • @MsChaman
    @MsChaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How the piano cries, on the descent of the quick chords. There's a lot of feelings in this play👌

  • @MarianoStatelloPiano
    @MarianoStatelloPiano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing! Thank you for this video Henrik!

  • @prettycureforever7102
    @prettycureforever7102 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of it just sounds so familiar too its crazy

  • @Balkyzag
    @Balkyzag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful video, thanks for uploading.

  • @uli069
    @uli069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these videos. Thanks a lot :-)

  • @joaquinalvz
    @joaquinalvz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This video is fantastic. It´s such a shame it has almost no reproductions

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you Joaquin! The views are growing right now though... :)

  • @peterswenson18
    @peterswenson18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite Chopin nocturne :)

  • @grimoireh3471
    @grimoireh3471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy new year!

  • @elliotthuffman7544
    @elliotthuffman7544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know I'm a year late, but wonderful analysis. Liked and subscribed!

  • @keesslijper497
    @keesslijper497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super !!! aan het instuderen

  • @cdvorpiano
    @cdvorpiano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am just beginning to work on this nocturne and appreciate your tutorial immensely, including your pleasant and enjoyable presentation of the material. Your fingerings are excellent! I have a question regarding editions. I am using the Paderewski edition by Dover, but a colleague of mine says that Jan Ekier is much better. I noticed that your Schirmer edition has some chords very different from my edition, for example in M. 41, I don't have the French 6th chord you mentioned, but rather F natural, A, & D#. I welcome your help!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, I'm happy you like it!
      I don't know about those editions you mention unfortunately. But in bar 41, the Schirmer also has F natural -A-D# in the left hand, it's the B in the right hand that makes it a French sixth chord. But it's possible that editions differ, especially in Chopin, then you can choose whichever one you prefer is my attitude.

  • @AbnormaalTsi
    @AbnormaalTsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This piece just sings of chopin. It is so delicate and tender, but you cant help but to feel bit melancholic. I'd like to think he turned his joyful, and especilaly his sorrows into his beautiful piano works.
    Dear, Henrik. I once again got to discover a new gem thanks to you. My teacher gave me a book with all chopin nocturnes, and i was wondering how you estimate the difficulty of this piece.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Tsi!
      Well the A section is not that difficult, but the B section is quite heavy to go through with all the changing notes (and the two times a semitone apart on top of that is rough for the muscular memory...) But it doesn't need to be that fast really.

    • @AdamDavidFroman
      @AdamDavidFroman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of them are easy!

  • @letsschubertiad1966
    @letsschubertiad1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I'll try it.

  • @Hjominbonrun
    @Hjominbonrun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate the detail you go into.
    Unfortunately, I am not a fan of the set of Nocturnes, but you do put in the best case possible for it.
    This one especially is probably one of my most disliked,
    but thanks to you, I gave it a chance.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I suppose that is a good review 🙃

    • @Hjominbonrun
      @Hjominbonrun ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonataSecrets Yes. I don't like the piece, but I like what you do with it, and how you explain.

  • @darcshadowrenacido
    @darcshadowrenacido 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Siempre siento que la parte principal emana una tristeza y reflexión profunda.

  • @TheLys7
    @TheLys7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank’s

  • @shawnparker1207
    @shawnparker1207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This nocturne is not so difficulr
    I really enjoy playing it

  • @paulmills7171
    @paulmills7171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for all your superb videos. Please could you advise where you would direct beginners to go if they would like to develop the piano technique and sight reading skills? Have you ever considered creating an online course using classical piano literature? Thanks again- Paul

  • @martintangora7324
    @martintangora7324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might have mentioned, since you emphasize the dance-y character of the middle section, that this nocturne is one of the Chopin pieces that were adapted for the ballet "Les Sylphides."

    • @martintangora7324
      @martintangora7324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scroll down here to the video with Baryshnikov to see the nocturne as it is danced
      classicjoy.blogspot.com/2015/09/les-sylphides-ballet-music-by-chopin.html

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! It's not surprising that they chose this, I think it fits perfectly to dance.

  • @tomarmstrong1281
    @tomarmstrong1281 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a piano improver I am very much aware of how it is necessary to play a low base note often on the first and the third beat of the bar with finger number five. Which obviously requires the pianist to have a spatial awareness of the note in question. Henrick appears not to be looking to locate the note in particular. I would love to know how such accurate spatial judgement is acquired? Is it purely hours and hours of practice? Are there exercises to help develop this important skill?

  • @RobertOrgRobert
    @RobertOrgRobert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why are the arpeggiated chords at the beginning etc always played incorrectly ? Really nice video .

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I thought about it some, but I still ended up doing one long arpeggio instead of shorter in each hand, just because it feels much more pianistic somehow.

  • @TheKwung
    @TheKwung 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an enjoyable video, thank you. Some critics think this piece is too repetitive and boring. I'm just wondering if there is any reason that Chopin wrote it so repetitive?

  • @worldofmakam
    @worldofmakam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great work Henrik! Can we get one for Ballade in G minor?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The G minor ballade is definately on my ultimate to-do list! But I've recently finished a batch of Chopin and have some other stuff planned for the nearest future so it may take a while.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Finally got around to it: th-cam.com/video/7kfJvpODcXM/w-d-xo.html

  • @faithquashie
    @faithquashie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so, what form would you call this nocturne to be in?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a structure it's straight forward ABA or ternary form (with the B part repeating itself transposed one half step up).
      In a broader sense of "form" you can argue that "Nocturne" is a form in itself. However it's much harder to define exactly what that is, becuase a Nocturne can be many different things. That's why I haven't done it explicitly in any of my videos, but if you get to know the music well enough you will know implicitly what is "Nocturnal" in a piece.

  • @yiannoscyprus
    @yiannoscyprus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey!! Amazing video, just one question! How is it a French 6th chord at 5:53? Isn't a French 6th chord supposed to be built on the flat 6th degree of the scale in which it is in? The chord in question is a Bb7b5, which is not the flat 6th in either F minor or A flat major. Thanks in advance!!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry for the late reply here... So the French are tricky, they can transpose to two chords - it's also a Fb7-5, which is on the flat 6th degree of Ab, to which it resolves. This is clear in the voice-leading (and Fb in the bass), but it's confusing because the same notes could also be the other chord!

    • @yiannoscyprus
      @yiannoscyprus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonataSecrets Ohhhh I see!! Thank you so much, very helpful!!

  • @davcaslop
    @davcaslop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No performer has the right of skipping the written. If Chopin were to be in front of you you wouldn't say that. Great analysis but romantic composers (in facto this started with Beethoven) wrote exactly what they wanted, even obvious pedaling.

  • @rogerg4916
    @rogerg4916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't Chopin have just called this piece a waltz rather than a nocturne?

  • @korpollema7433
    @korpollema7433 ปีที่แล้ว

    the middle part is not a waltz at all.

    • @Bruh-Yes
      @Bruh-Yes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it is if you want it to be. 🌃